I had no idea the Volari V3 was based on unreleased Trident technology. And while I knew it wasn't fast....I didn't know it was THAT slow. I certainly learned something today!
@@kyles8524 Thanks! "The Volari V3, however, was a renamed Trident XP4" - That is what I said. Dunno what they mean with "and was designed more with the original SiS chips as notebook chip" - Trident had no connection with SIS till XGI unite them, and the XP4 was developed before when they were independent. So XGI took this and just renamed it. As far as I know, only Volari V5 and V5 were developed based on SIS tech (Xabre), and later models . XGI continues using the Trident XP tech for some of their mobile GPUs.
What a twist on the channel. But I understood your English all the way and I would kinda love to see more weird stuff like this. It's always interesting to see.
Yes, the Xabre is the precedessor of the Volari V5/V8 somehow, and I'm pretty sure XGI gives the development of their low end card to their former trident division because SIS has gain some experience with more powerful GPUs. I own a SIS 315 with 128bit memory interface and that performed quite well. But these cards came to late on the marked so ATi and Nvidia were a few month (or even a year?) ahead already.
Thank you! I need to improve some things for sure, and of course sound will be my preferred stage.. But I also like old graphics cards as well so maybe there will be a video here and then.
Wow, and I thought the 9200SE I talked about was bad! 😅 Looking back at my own data, the closest V3 competitor on the market in 2003 might have been a Geforce4 MX4000 with a 32bit memory bus. That got a 3DMark2001 score of 2532, and it is VERY memory bottlenecked. The V3 manages to be that slow while actually having more memory bandwidth than the competitors. 🤣
It's always a matter of perspective😄 I somehow like the 9200SE. It is an honest card and you got exactly what you pay for:-) The Volari was cheap but regarding it's performance it's was no bargain at all.
Genau die Karte ist doch von eBay Kleinanzeigen? ;) Bin mir sicher exakt diesen Karton da mal gesehen zu haben! Schön, dass damit ein Video gemacht wurde.
In der Tat, da hab ich sie gekauft! Ist allerdings schon ein paar Monate her, und die originalen silbernen Elkos waren aufgebläht und mussten erst noch ersetzt werden.
I don't know which Colin McRae Rally is shown at the end, but it's certainly not the original one. I guess it's CMR 2.0 then considering the Volari V3 can still run it.
Where are you getting the info this is using the same architecture as the trident blade XP4? I cant find any info about this online.The only thing I could find is it was renamed XP4 but had nothing in common with the Blade XP4.Said it was actually based more on some Notebook SiS chip
Hi Kyle, maybe you refer to the Volari V3XT? Thats SIS technology whereas the V3 is Trident. I researched this informations on the Trident wiki page and the XGI wiki page, both german and english. There's also at least two german reviews for this cards with this information. alt.3dcenter.org/artikel/2003/09-16.php www.pc-erfahrung.de/grafikkarte/vga-grafikchips-desk/xgi-volari-vx-serie/xgivolariv3.html
Yeah really looks like a laptop gpu on card based on the stats and its based on bladexp. i have a bladexp in my toshiba tecra and it ok for some directx but opengl doesnt exist. Seems like trident provided a better driver by this time.
Yes it seems XGI wanted to extend their lineup to the low-end with this, and without taking too much effort in it. With a more focus on desktops, improved pipeline and higher clock speed the V3 could be better, but I think ATI and Nvidia were already in the lead too far for XGI to be a real competitor, even in the lowest end. Thanks for watching 🍀
By raw theoretical values it should be close to the DX7 cards like a Radeon 7200 DDR or Geforce4 MX 440, and that is before any effect of the driver. And half the performance of the FX 5200, which ended up pretty much as OEM card because of it's horrible performance, is quite the result. But 5W is quite low, so indeed for multimedia or office, with the ability for the occasional light game.
Thanks for the honest feedback, mate. It was an experiment for me and I know it's far from perfect, same with my english skills. But I need this steps to extend my skills, thought.. Thanks for watching!
Props for using music from Unreal,
I had no idea the Volari V3 was based on unreleased Trident technology. And while I knew it wasn't fast....I didn't know it was THAT slow. I certainly learned something today!
online says it actually had nothing in common with trident and was based on some SiS notebook chip
@@kyles8524 🤔Where did you read this?
@@kyles8524 Thanks! "The Volari V3, however, was a renamed Trident XP4" - That is what I said. Dunno what they mean with "and was designed more with the original SiS chips as notebook chip" - Trident had no connection with SIS till XGI unite them, and the XP4 was developed before when they were independent. So XGI took this and just renamed it. As far as I know, only Volari V5 and V5 were developed based on SIS tech (Xabre), and later models . XGI continues using the Trident XP tech for some of their mobile GPUs.
You earned a sub and upvote from the Unreal soundtrack alone.
Thanks! I'm loving Unreal and UT soundtrack👌
What a twist on the channel. But I understood your English all the way and I would kinda love to see more weird stuff like this. It's always interesting to see.
Wow the Volari V3 is a lot slower than I expected, I thought it would be close to the Xabre 400, but clearly not. Thanks for the video!
Yes, the Xabre is the precedessor of the Volari V5/V8 somehow, and I'm pretty sure XGI gives the development of their low end card to their former trident division because SIS has gain some experience with more powerful GPUs. I own a SIS 315 with 128bit memory interface and that performed quite well. But these cards came to late on the marked so ATi and Nvidia were a few month (or even a year?) ahead already.
Liking the change up with this video, about video cards. ;D
Thank you! I need to improve some things for sure, and of course sound will be my preferred stage.. But I also like old graphics cards as well so maybe there will be a video here and then.
Wow, and I thought the 9200SE I talked about was bad! 😅
Looking back at my own data, the closest V3 competitor on the market in 2003 might have been a Geforce4 MX4000 with a 32bit memory bus. That got a 3DMark2001 score of 2532, and it is VERY memory bottlenecked. The V3 manages to be that slow while actually having more memory bandwidth than the competitors. 🤣
It's always a matter of perspective😄 I somehow like the 9200SE. It is an honest card and you got exactly what you pay for:-) The Volari was cheap but regarding it's performance it's was no bargain at all.
Genau die Karte ist doch von eBay Kleinanzeigen? ;) Bin mir sicher exakt diesen Karton da mal gesehen zu haben! Schön, dass damit ein Video gemacht wurde.
In der Tat, da hab ich sie gekauft! Ist allerdings schon ein paar Monate her, und die originalen silbernen Elkos waren aufgebläht und mussten erst noch ersetzt werden.
I don't know which Colin McRae Rally is shown at the end, but it's certainly not the original one. I guess it's CMR 2.0 then considering the Volari V3 can still run it.
Where are you getting the info this is using the same architecture as the trident blade XP4? I cant find any info about this online.The only thing I could find is it was renamed XP4 but had nothing in common with the Blade XP4.Said it was actually based more on some Notebook SiS chip
Hi Kyle, maybe you refer to the Volari V3XT? Thats SIS technology whereas the V3 is Trident. I researched this informations on the Trident wiki page and the XGI wiki page, both german and english. There's also at least two german reviews for this cards with this information.
alt.3dcenter.org/artikel/2003/09-16.php
www.pc-erfahrung.de/grafikkarte/vga-grafikchips-desk/xgi-volari-vx-serie/xgivolariv3.html
@@pc-sound-legacy do you know what SiS chip the XT was based off of?
@@kyles8524 No, I have not searched that card so far, just read it somewhere while searching Infos to the earlier V3.
Volari V3's Vender ID is Trident, and vsyncmame's screen resolution setting routine for Trident works on Volari V3 ⸜(* ॑꒳ ॑* )⸝
When you consider that it only consumes 5 watts, performance per watt is actually impressive. Now I understand why Dell used XGI in some laptops.
Yeah really looks like a laptop gpu on card based on the stats and its based on bladexp. i have a bladexp in my toshiba tecra and it ok for some directx but opengl doesnt exist. Seems like trident provided a better driver by this time.
Yes it seems XGI wanted to extend their lineup to the low-end with this, and without taking too much effort in it. With a more focus on desktops, improved pipeline and higher clock speed the V3 could be better, but I think ATI and Nvidia were already in the lead too far for XGI to be a real competitor, even in the lowest end. Thanks for watching 🍀
By raw theoretical values it should be close to the DX7 cards like a Radeon 7200 DDR or Geforce4 MX 440, and that is before any effect of the driver.
And half the performance of the FX 5200, which ended up pretty much as OEM card because of it's horrible performance, is quite the result.
But 5W is quite low, so indeed for multimedia or office, with the ability for the occasional light game.
But FX5200 was slower than MX 440.
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Slow reading doesn't help a bit.
Love your channel and all, but this is just boring, sorry.
Thanks for the honest feedback, mate. It was an experiment for me and I know it's far from perfect, same with my english skills. But I need this steps to extend my skills, thought.. Thanks for watching!