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TATAKAI! FIGHT! KÆMP! anyway always love both of your reaction since the first episode of AOT till' now..the end of the long journey.. and i don't mean to offense u but katt looks alike annie lil' bit😅
Ymir got the power of the titan coz she wanted to get power, she was being hunted by people and hunting dogs. Meanwhile the boy in the future is exploring the abandoned island with his 'friendly' dog, there is no way he want the big power like titan (assumed the worm still exist)
I agree that it's hard to believe that Attack on Titan is over. It's been a long and emotional journey, but it has also been one of the most rewarding and thought-provoking stories I have ever experienced. I think the finale was a fitting conclusion to the series. It was emotional, action-packed, and thought-provoking. It also left many questions unanswered, which is fitting for a show that has always been about the mysteries of the world. I'm sure that fans will be debating the finale for years to come. But one thing is for sure: Attack on Titan is a masterpiece, and it will be remembered as one of the greatest anime series of all time.
I figured the baby scene would hit particularly hard since you guys are recent parents. It's so horrifying but at the aame time it represents that tiny bit of hope and goodness in humanity in the darkest moments.
I just wanna give a big hug to Mikasa, my sweetest girl. ending a 2000 years curse, freeing ymir and save the world, even if she had to k*ll her most beloved. What a finale. Some facts here: - the bird is actually wrapping the scarf around mikasa. - indeed Ackermans can not have their memories erased, thats why Eren chose to take her to the paths (the cabin reality), almost at the end, Mikasa had all her memories of that time when she lead the last attack. - In Eren's grave, Mikasa wrote "Here forever, rest peacefully. My most beloved, my dear. 854" - in the credits scene, is shown Mikasa died, and then you have a small glimpse of an old Armin visiting their graves, she was buried next to Eren. - They got to spend 4 years in the cabin world we saw (4 years in paths time, that of course in real time was just seconds). He dies there after that time because of the ymir's curse, and that's the moment Mikasa in real world did the last charge to stop him. - Eren had his eyes closed all throughout the rumbling, he opened them in his last moment to see Mikasa one last time.
@@Etphoneholmesyep when mikasa killed him was exact time he died cuz of the curse in the Path as an illusion. I have rewatched so many times to actually recognize this 😂. What a masterpiece
Other things to note as well: - If you count the seasons in the 1st time-lapse, you'll find that it's 7 years plus the 3 years after they killed Eren then you see Mikasa with Jean (it's way clearer in the manga) so she grieved 10 years for him and Jean waited 10 years for her which means they got married at age 29-30. Since they were 19 during season 4. - the one singing along linked horizon at the ending is Mikasa.
The main point of this entire story since the 1st episode is that titans aren't the issue. Humanity is the problem bc ppl r going to be ppl. Thats reality! Bravo AOT
Eren can only see the future of Attack titans and he was the last one so he couldn’t see past what he would achieve. Oh and, Just so y’all know, Eren and Mikasa did live together for 3 years in the paths. It wasn’t just an alternate reality if Mikasa told her she loved him. Anyways, Eren achieved his goal, he left everybody in the world on an equal playing field, his friends lived long happy lives, and now he is free in death. You can assume that with most of Asian culture, Eren was reincarnated as the bird and birds are usually a symbol of freedom so he’s free BUT like Eren said the conflict doesn’t end. Just like the boy in the end walking into the tree like Ymir, the cycle continues.
It is well explained on the "Taki Channel" where the last 3 minutes are fully explained. It's in Japanese. Mikasa and Jean. That is a very interesting and convincing commentary. Also, Mr. Isayama's message is that history repeats itself. Even in the real world, it is unfortunate, but wars do not end.
The point was to give peace to his friends, for their lifetime and remove the curse of Yimir. He always knew that he couldn't stop the cycle of violence.
@DBT1007 The worm is the source of life Ymir just created rules for it The path Like a birdcage, past and future Elder humans will never be free Even death I like the way it ended
@@DBT1007you got quite a lot of things wrong. let me help you: eren doesnt want to kill himself. eren doesnt want to "bait out the worm". eren dosnt "mix" with the worm. ymir doesnt smile because she sees mikasa loving a "hard boy" too. ymir isnt freed because the worm is gone. ymir smiles because she witnesses mikasa letting go of the one she loved the most. that is what ymir never could. that is why she was stuck in the paths. that is why the titan powers existed. mikasa showed ymir that you CAN let go. and that is what she does. now she is no longer stuck in the paths. which means the worm has no connection to the real world anymore. and without ymir in the paths building titans, the titan powers are gone.
I agree. And the ending was so realistic, I'm glad Isayama was so logical about not giving us happy ending that everyone wants, instead he wants to realistic, given the situation of our own world too.
Buddy, his main priority was fulfilling his dream and expressing his disappointment over how the outside world is, whatever benefits he gave his friends and eldia are just secondary. He said it, he wanted to flatten it all once the world didn’t look like the book.
Peace from war yes, but i don't think his friends had a peaceful life, imagine u still have to live after knowing u failed to save 80% of mankind, not to mention u're also responsible to prevent it from happening on the first place
Eren is not able to see the future past his death because the power of the titans doesn’t exist anymore. His goal was to make sure the people closest to him lived long lives and to remove conflict in their lifetime.
@@everforward5561 Different circumstances, Ymir was being hunted, was afraid, and scared when she received her Titan Powers. She wished for a form where she couldn’t be killed and be strong (a Titan) and a place where she couldn’t die (The Paths). The after credits is open to interpretation so we don’t even know if the Halllucigenia is even there but the Kid is going in there willingly and out of curiosity compared to Ymir who did it out of Survival, so to me it leaves a hopeful note that it’d be different than before.
Eren already know that he's going to die in the future that's why he keep going to past after he got killed by mikasa but the result are still the same, he said it to armin
yep, Eren was no longer able to see the future past his death because the power of the titans ceased to exist after he transferred the Founding Titan to Zeke and then killed Zeke. The Founding Titan was the source of the power to see the future, so without it, Eren was no longer able to access that ability. Eren's goal was indeed to make sure that the people closest to him lived long lives and to remove conflict in their lifetime. He believed that the only way to achieve this was to eliminate the threat posed by the outside world, which he felt would require the Rumbling. The Rumbling was a massive attack that Eren unleashed using the power of the Founding Titan to crush and destroy all of the nations outside of Paradis Island. Eren's actions were controversial and sparked much debate among fans of the series. Some viewers believed that Eren was justified in his actions, while others believed that he was ultimately a villain. Ultimately, whether or not Eren was a hero or a villain is a matter of opinion. There is no right or wrong answer, and each viewer is entitled to their own interpretation of the story. Despite the controversial nature of Eren's actions, there is no doubt that he was a complex and fascinating character. He was driven by a strong sense of love and loyalty, and he was willing to sacrifice everything to protect those he cared about. His story is a powerful reminder of the complexities of human nature and the difficult choices that we must sometimes make in order to survive.
am Japanese. I'm using automatic translation, so I don't know if I can understand it well, but please let me know. The Japanese have lived peacefully for decades thanks to their defeat in World War II and the peace education that followed. I think it is a wonderful country that many people who died for their country in kamikaze attacks dreamed of. However, while enjoying this peace, somewhere in my heart I think that it will not last until 100 or 1000 years from now, just like the ending of AOT. That's why I want to cherish the casual daily life of racing up the hill or playing catch. It was fun to see the reactions of both of you. I would like to take a long journey with you again.
Good catch Kat on Mikasa not being able to have her memories wiped, which means her conversation with Eren (the time spent in the log cabin) happened right in the moments before she killed Eren (also why you see Eren's face with titan marks in her paths dimension talk). She was also experiencing a headache at the time which means Ymir was watching them.
Don't think the ending with boy and the tree implied a repition of the cycle. Keep in mind when Ymir encountered the life force she was hunted, by dogs too, so the power she created was that of a stronger body and a invisible connection to the Eldians, so she wouldn't get hurt any more. By contrast, the boy in the end seems to be peacefully exploring with a loyal canine companion. Chances are, if he does encounter the life force in that tree-cave, the power springing from him might be more benevolent.
Eren's goal was not world peace or eternal salvation for paradis coz it's unattainable. He always knew war will always be there. The very goal is for his friends to live, happy long lives. No more titan's curse which coz for his friends' lives to lengten. And his friends got to live longer and died before paradis even got bombed. It was bombed centuries later
Yup I LOVE Kat taking in the bleakness of the ending and working through that. It’s like the scene between Zeke and Armin, it’s about the little things in life. Even if conflict continues and humanity is doomed to repeat the same mistakes, there is still hope and there is still love. Not to be too mushy about it lol 😅 Anyhow it’s been a great ride with you two, thanks for watching it with us!
What? Where did I say that? And even then thats more mature than "everyone survives, everyone is happy" ending we got. Oh wow the main cast all lived happily ever after and the unknown plebians died of nuclear war. Wow so deep. Im 14 and this is deep. No whats a more mature and sophisticated ending is Eren breaking the cycle of life, and going against fate itself. Putting his fists up against fate. Having erens character turn into a "im an idiot thats why I killed 80 percent of people, also jean rails mikasa, and paradise gets nuked" wow thats so deep. My "peaceful" ending entails breaking this cycle by wiping everyone out. The cringevenger alliance, the people of the world, and wiping the memories of paradise once more. Thats Erens true freedom and success for his people. @lpreactions565
yeah and actually its a on going theme through out the story like Erwin speech before the great charge. He said to answer Floch "No matter what you do or what kind of life you had you end up dying, does it mean that Life is meaningless?"
@@user-qx1id1dt8x and the dude still believed that life wasn't meaningless till the end, that's wild!!! Erwin is another level of fighting spirit and will force
@@lilkurva180Eren's not a hero, I think that's what you're missing. This story isn't a hero's journey, it's a cautionary tale about concentrating too much power in any one person or group's hands.
The talk between the two of you was wonderful. I like happy endings, and I was satisfied with the ending of Attack on Titan. I think it's a realistic ending, and one person named Eren fought a battle against free will and lost. I think we have successfully completed that growth and change. I don't think such creative works come out very often, and I'm grateful to Mr. Isayama.
It shows that Mikasa's feelings remained unchanged until her death. 36:45 Dandelion: true love A single white rose: love at first sight Yellow tulip: fame, unrequited love A single tulip also means "You are my destiny. 37:43 Four Carnations Single carnation: you are my destiny (white carnation) White carnations: pure love. Rejection of love Four carnation : I will love you forever
@@stepthenutri I am Japanese". This language of flowers is uniquely Japanese and also applies to Mikasa, who is an oriental. Since the attack on titan set in Europe, I used the oriental language of flowers to convey my feelings to Eren so that no one would notice.
Well in the ending where we saw paradise got destroyed it happens after like maybe 100 or 1000 years after the events of Aot and it shows conflict will still remain . Eren was just a selfish person who wanted to protect his people and give paradise time and a fair chance to develop an army and plus he himself said he just wanted to flatten the world.
Actually, not even that. Ultimately Eren at his core only cared about his inner circle of friends. He didn't give a shit about the rest of the world or even the other Eldians or Paradisians. Eren succeeded in the sense that his loved ones specifically, the only ones he cared about, got to live out the rest of their lives, even though the world in general went on as usual (civilizations flourished and then got destroyed).
This episode was absolutely incredible. It was everything i expected and more. I think i cried about 5 times throughout the entire episode it was so powerful and tragic, yet so beautiful somehow. As someone who has been following this show for the past few years now it's very sad to see it end after all this time, but all good things must come to an end eventually. A lot of us Manga readers were sceptical to the ending but i think the people who didn’t like it simply didn’t understand AOT in the end. One of the scenes which people disliked the most was Eren’s breakdown to Armin in the paths. People felt it was pathetic, like Armin said it was, but also so out of character for him. Eren broke down because the emotional wall he built around himself finally came crashing down after it was all over. He let out his true feelings for the first time ever. The scene with Eren and Armin in the paths was so beautifully made. «Wait for me in hell». In the end they both realized neither of them were the good guys. No one was in aot, which is again a reoccuring theme in this show. As we saw in the end the cycle of hatred continued even after everything Eren did for them. This is what i LOVE about this show so much. It’s hyper realistic. It is basic human nature to turn to war sooner or later. As Eren stated himself «I dont know why i did all this, this all happened, because i am a stupid idiot who gained godly powers». This is kinda the same as what happened in the real world as well with certain bad people in our history, no? A cool little detail i think a lot of people missed it that in the intro of season 2 we see Zeke’s beast titan running around with tons of other animals. Those were all the previous Beast titans from the previous owners of it. Very cool to see all the previous nine titans finally being shown. Isayama’s foreshadowing is simply next level. He is a genius. The more u rewatch the show, the more details like this and foreshadowing u notice. It’s everywhere, placed right infront of our eyes, yet we dont realize it before rewatching it. This is one of the things that make this show the masterpiece it is. Also i can’t not mention the scene where all the people on the cliff were passing on the baby. That scene was actually inspired by Schindler’s list. I literally had fullbody chills throughout the entire segment. This was in my opinion the most beautiful episode of the show so far. Also the Music throughout the entire episode was incredible. They brought back so many bangers from the previous seasons which i loved. The scene in the cabin with Mikasa and Eren broke me. Her seeing the alternete timeline they could of had together if she just said her true feelings when they were talking at the top of the mountain in the last episode literally had me crying so hard. Eren telling her to forget about him but also wanting her not to find another man was childish yet fits Eren’s character so much. Deep down he is a child and had been botteling up these feelings since the start. Eren was the only character who in the end didn’t change at all. He was always like this, since the start. In the end Mikasa never forgot about Eren and got buried next to him with the same flowers she put there on his grave. AOT is one of the most tragic stories ever told, yet one of the most beautiful ones i have seen. Like Mikasa said earlier «this world is so cruel. It is also very beautiful.» Now since the show is finished we finally realize why the birds in so many scenes were so important. Falco in the first intro of season 4 reaching out to the birds, and Eren returning to Mikasa one last time as a white bird which symbolizes and represents "freedom" and "peace". Also big up to Armin’s VA this episode. Incredible performance. One other little scene some people tend to forget is the big plot twist that was revealed. Eren all along being the one that sent the smiling titan to kill his own mother to get the outcome he needed and the hatred which motivated him to kill the titans. It was supposed to be Bertholdt but, Eren already knew how everything would turn out in the paths if he didn’t change it to how he had seen it. «One of the powers of the founding titan is that my head is an entire mess, there is no future or past or present». Eren said that he tried to change everything he could but in the end killing 80% of humanity was the only choice he was left with to make the Eldians seem like heroes. He also blamed himself for the death of Sasha and Hange and the others along the way. The future was already set in stone. Eren had no control over it, and all along he was a slave to freedom. In the end he became what he hated the most. I just want to thank all of you reading this for this incredible journey and for the fantastic community aot has had. It has been one hell of a ride with yall. Attack on titan will go down in history as the greatest show of all time and a modern masterpiece, and nothing will change that. This show will for ever be my number one. Thank you Isayama for everything and thank you for changing my life ❤. "To the boy who sought freedom, goodbye."
The credit epilogue was Isayama giving a pretty definitive answer on whether Eren was a sympathetic villain or a misunderstood hero in an otherwise very nuanced and balanced story. But no matter what you think of Eren, he didn't break the cycle. He didn't save the world. The end didn't justify the means. He killed 80% of the world so his few friends could live long happy lives, and so the 2000 year old ghost of a girl could be free, and that was that.
I agree, but I think that more than that, the message is clear, the problem is us and our leaders, and our weapons, Eldia + titans, Marley + titans, Eren + titans, and in the future, that society + the nukes and weapons, and perhaps it was no longer Paradis, since thousands of years passed, no empire was eternal. In theory the problem was the titans, they were no longer there so we see that the problem is conflict, intolerance and etc...
There are definitely alot of Biblical themes in this show including the tree of life, The chosen people (The Jews), Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, free will vs pre destination, nihilism, and love that spans generations. I think this show might have a frustrating ending depending on your worldview, but it definitely an important ending. at the very least, the last shot of the city burning and the tree shows the realistic nature of the sinful human heart. Loved your reaction and discussion guys. God bless.
I love Zeke building sandcastles during what is essentially the end of the world. He's so iconic. One of my favorite characters to be honest. I absolutely love the moment of Armin saying thank you to Eren and it cuts to Eren looking shocked because it feels very reminiscent of Mikasa thanking Eren for wrapping her scarf. Both Armin and Mikasa thanked Eren for helping them and showed him appreciation when he thought he was worthless. After all these years, it's finally over. We are free. Goodbye to all of the amazing characters from this story, both alive and dead. Goodbye Armin and Mikasa. And to Eren, the boy who sought freedom, goodbye. Thank you, Isayama.
@alexinator-hh5fe the sandcastle is a metaphor to his ideology when he was explaining it to Armin. Life being meaningless and short, building a sandcastle that's just going to disappear in a few hours.
I agree that Zeke's sandcastle building is an iconic moment. It is a reminder that even in the face of despair, there is always room for hope and imagination. Zeke's ability to find joy in such a dire situation is a testament to his resilience and strength of character. The moment of Armin thanking Eren is also a powerful and poignant one. It is a reminder that even the most troubled and conflicted of individuals can find redemption and forgiveness. Armin's words of gratitude are a balm to Eren's wounded soul, and they give him a sense of peace that he has not felt in a long time. The ending of Attack on Titan is a bittersweet one. While it is a tragedy to say goodbye to these beloved characters, it is also a celebration of their lives and their struggles. They have faced unimaginable challenges, but they have never given up on their dreams of freedom and peace. Their legacy will live on, inspiring generations to come. Thank you, Isayama, for sharing this incredible story with the world. It is a masterpiece that will be remembered for years to come.
The point of what Eren does was 2 main things. First and foremost he saved his friends. He turned them into heroes by making himself the villain. The second part is he literally leveled everything. There was no longer a super power oppressing the world. Everyone was back to square one. This meant that Mikasa, Armin and the rest of the scouts could live their lives in peace before war broke out again.
"What's the point of this ?" I believe this is the same as saying, "Why even do anything when you are gonna die someday ?" You don't live for the future. You live for the present while working for the future. Its the absolutely miniscule things that matter the most in life. I am going through the roughest phase of my life. But it is watching Attack on Titan, an animated show made by people I don't know and prolly never will, that gave me the most joy through all these years. The war at the end happened probably centuries in the future. Eren's friends did live in peace for the rest of their lifetime, and probably so did their children and grandchildren. Like we did have a World War II after 1st (and their are not so good things happening in the world right now) and you never know when a 3rd might start, but u don't live fearing about that. Also, criticizing the animation is confusing to me? I know u aren't saying it was bad, however this is probably the best animated part of Attack on Titan and its not even close. There were maybe a couple of off-model shots of Eren, but like...that's all. Most character looked the best they've ever had (especially Levi, Mikasa and Pieck), titans looked the best they've ever had, action is the best it has ever been (whether ODM or titan v titan), the best ODM cut in the entire series, most haunting shots of the series in the rumbling, most beautiful shots (wallpaper worthy). As for production, this is probably the only part that got the maximum amount of time and resources that AOT has ever had. Anyways, it has been a great journey with y'all. Hoping for a final video, for ur thoughts on the series now that it has ended, your fav characters, moments, etc.
I personally got a more hopeful tone from the very last scene with the boy. It was a direct contrast to the scene where ymir first finds the tree. Ymir finds it when she is scared and running for life, gravely injured and being chased by hunting dogs. She is not familiar of the forest. However, the boy is clearly an explorer and this is probably of his own choice. He is being driven by curiosity and his own will to explore, with a pet dog by his side as a companion. While him entering the tree might be the start of a new cycle, the situation is notably different. It is not necessary that what comes out of it will be titans, since as Zeke said it was Ymir's desire for a bigger, stronger, immortal body (to escape death and the accompanying fear)that created the titans in the first place. In the end, even though Paradis ended up getting destroyed way into the future, the efforts of people like Armin helped make a small but significant change, shown by how history doesn't repeat itself for this one moment of the rediscovery of the tree. Also, I think it's important to frame that Eren's actions, atleast directly, really did result in nothing good. It would come off weird to me if there was some reason to justify/lighten what he did in the end. His actions at the most only enabled a buffer period for conflict, and he enabled Mikasa to free Ymir from her trauma and hence remove the power of the titans. It was Armin and co's efforts that created a peace that lasted for atleast hundreds of years. Compared to all the damage that Eren caused to all life and the planet, the positives are miniscule.
The last kid finding the cave below the tree, even though it's a parallel to Yimir Fritz, it's still represented differently. Ymir was a slave running for her life when she accidentally fell into the hole. The last kid with the dog, was exploring out of curiosity, so he was free. Even after so much violence, freedom is achieved.
What was the point, you ask? I believe Isamaya is deliberately telling us that there was no point. That the titans were not the problem all along. It was always the evil in humans in power.. Or maybe it is the power that corrupts people somehow. With this story coming from Japan, every nuclear explosion of the colossal titan reminds me that this is not really fiction or a pessimistic, tragic tale.. it's a very realistic reflection of the world we live in. That being said, the reason Eren did this is to grant his friends and people a relatively peaceful life (there is no absolute peace to seek for anyway), and more importantly, a normal life without titans, without children eating their parents only to live 13 years and perish. That was the cycle that Eren wanted to end. No one knows if it's about to start again, but that's not on Eren, he did end Ymir's curse.. He did his part. The rest was on humanity, and humanity failed, as expected.
Back in season 1 in the battle of Trost, when Eren was about to get eaten by the bearded titan he said «As if i could die in a place like this…» Kinda ironic isn’t it, that in the end he did die in the mouth of a titan.
@@ActualCoconutI don’t know would you be needing the answer right now but he is in mouth because he has war hammer Titan and can place himself anywhere he prefers. This has been mentioned many times by the squad too when they were trying to figure out where he possibly could be
I think the end credits confuse people a lot. Eren did change a lot of things. He ended 2000 years of ear and suffering for at least a few hundred years. His friends lived long happy lives, there are no more titans and the people of the island are finally at an equal level to the rest of the world. The Island not only survived but thrived in technological advancements for hundreds of years. Naturally the wars started again due to human conflict, and eventually humans destroyed themselves. Thousands of years later in an post apocalyptic world a kid find the tree and everything starts again.
10 years of a masterpiece and not a single second wasted. You two guessed right at the end, the cycle of titans repeats. Glad you two got to experience this masterpiece.
I don't think it continues. The circumstances for Ymir was far different than the kid who finds the tree this go around. The suffering she was experiencing manifested the Titans, being chased by dogs, wounded and fearing for her life. The kid has a sog companion, and chooses to explore and discovers the tree. So while the kid will make contact with the glowy-thing (forgive me forgetting the name), it most likely won't manifest into titan powers, but something else, as a reflection of the kid's emotional state of being.
Zeke literally explains that the Power of the Titans was based on what Ymir wished for: a bigger, stronger, invincible body and a realm without death. So no, if the boy makes contact with the worm something completely different than titans will happen.
About mikasa part, indeed Ackerman was immune to become titan and memory manipulation, but why Mikasa? Ymir & Eren was trying to get to Mikasa head and alter her memory, that's why she had an headache as a form of resistance to this. here's my analysis as a comparison based on clue on this journey. In season 1 episode 2, Hannes was throwing Eren, after that, Mikasa get a headache because she wanted to punch Hannes for what he did to Eren. But in Season 4 episode 14, even though Eren said harsh things to Mikasa, she didn't get any headache because it was inline with what Eren told to Armin this episode in the path. also, in this episode I believe Mikasa had the most hurtful headache because of the attempt of the memory manipulation.
To the boy who sought freedom, Goodbye. RIP Eren. In the end, you did exterminate every last titan from this world. This was an awesome adaptation. Thank you Isayama, Well done, MAPPA. This was truly the end of an era.
I respect the ending of this story. I think this is the best ending. History repeats itself. Eren thougt that eternal peace was impossible. But He wanted Mikasa, Armin, and his friends to live in peace, and this wish came true. In the interview of The New York Times, Hajime Isayama said,〝I guess there could have been an ending where it was a happy ending and the war ended and everything was fine and dandy. I guess that could have been possible. At the same time, the end of fighting and the end of contention itself kind of seems hokey. It kind of seems like it’s not even believable. It’s just not plausible in the world we’re living in right now. And so, sadly, I had to give up on that kind of happy ending.”
Most of the reactors misunderstand but the bird at the end is possibly the reincarnation of Eren. It didn't try to get the scarf away but wrapped it around Mikasa!
ur reaction to aot is how i discovered ur channel. its been an amazing experience watching w u guys. still cant believe we're at the end of the series.
I think the series did kind of end on a positive note. A cave in a tree was entered into again, but this time by someone seemingly free of fear. Fear being something emphasized in this finale as a cause of war.
Eren can see in the future until the point where he dies. Is not that he can see the future centuries ahead. He could have seen way beyond after he dies if the power of the titans (attack titan) would have still existed after his death. It wasnt pointless. All his friends got to live peaceful lives, thats what he cared the most.
40:01 whats the point of all this....i want you guys to live long and be happy...mikasa lived long and died a good death...armin kept visiting their grave and also eventually died...hundreds of years of peace and development...and probably thousands of years of paradise safety...eventually war caught up...not cause of eldians or mayleans or whatever but just war in general...nobody could end war all over thw world...just look at our world. In summary the point was to save his friends...and he did...every single one of them sadly except hange and sasha
That’s the point of this whole story you cannot stop the cycle of violence. But what he did wasn’t for nothing. He still secured peace for his loved ones and generations for hundreds of years before the fighting started again
I absolutely feel you, Kat. I went through it. I almost didn't bring myself to watch it because I knew the ending would be crushing. The only things we can look forward to are the positive connections we make with others and the contributions of beauty we can give in our life time. As violent beings we will always be destined to bring destruction. We can only do what we can to make sure we don't contribute to that destruction in our personal lives.
The point is that his friends lived a happy life and that's it, he can't change human nature, there will always be war, it's horrible but that's life, shit what's happening with the Palestinians, The Cycle is always destined to repeat itself.
This anime being fiction is too real. And that's what throws people off when watching sometimes hehe. the characters are unique and realistic kind of. theyre complicated and yet simple.
The ending's message is: humans will be humans. Peace never lasts forever, someday in the future global wars will start again and then another period of peace, and so on.
The message Isayama tried to convey was that life has no meaning or purpose or "direction" in the grand scheme of things. Creatures, nations, planets, stars, etc are born, survive or thrive for a while and eventually die, to be replaced by something else which repeats the cycle. For living creature, especially a human being, what gives meaning are connections, e.g. with other people, and the small ephemeral moments of joy. I still think Isayama could have done better, but after watching the finale, I'm not mad about the ending as I was when the final chapter came out. Many small details were added or changed to make this a more compelling conclusion for the story, e.g. the conversation between Armin and Eren which was significantly improved, Reiner's "what a man you are" is gone, Ymir appearing before Mikasa which confirms why the titan curse was gone once Ymir found peace (this one from the additional semi-chapter 139.5), etc.
That nuke scene happens around 2.000 years into the future (if we take into consideration the credits theme song titled "To You 2000 years or Maybe 20000 Years Into the Future"). Eren was never written to be a perfect character or a genius, let alone his "plan" for peace. We should consider that World War II happened just 80 years ago and we are at the brink of another global conflict. The message is clear: we should live each day the best we can while peace still lasts.
Kat asked "What`s the point of this if everything is going to continue?" Well from what I understand Eren just wanted his friends to live a long happy life , which they did . He knew conflict will never stop, titan power or not , we humans love conflict . So by erasing 80% of humanity he managed to "help" his friends have that life . Is it wrong ? Hell yeah Also I've seen lots of people talk about how they will not unalive that many people . Y'all , when you have a power that fucks you up mentaly , you literally can't tell what's the past and the future, you can't distinguish things . Also you don't know how you will react when you have THAT MUCH power , also he literally was an adolecent when he saw everything . That fucks you up for good .
I like to think of it as a mix of Erwin and Armin's previous quotes. Erwin's last speech, about sacrifice and striving towards progress as the only way they can rebel against this cruel world. And Armin, you must always hope and try to strive towards a day where you you can resolve everything with peace. Just because things are hopeless, doesn't mean you should give up. Maybe war is inevitable with humans, but what we can do is continue and try to avoid them, mitigate the damage, because that's the only way we can be free? Like, if it's inevitable that there will be war, better to have 1 war every 200 years than 5 wars in 1 year, right?
In an anime full of harrowing scenes, the cliff baby has to be the most harrowing of all. An image that stuck with me since I first saw it in the manga. Been a great ride, you two! Glad to have been able to have some of my favourite reactors go through what I did when I saw all this for the first time, hah
Ackerman's are immune to the mindwipe. That has been established. Levi didn't seemingly receive any epiphanies. Eren did admire him in his youth after all. She remembered the cottage scene with Eren before his death. She wrapped the scarf and proclaimed she can't forget or throw it away. It's why she knew where to find him. (The mouth) I would expect that Eren visited that memory for her at that very moment. That's why Falco's shadow was there. The past OVA episode of Eren dying no matter what decisions are made, probably, is one of many cases where Eren prepares her for this last waking dream sequence so that it won't be way too out of place for her to drop down rather than act. I mean. At least I speculate so. Nice talks from yall. Thanks.
The points i recieved were.. They used simple word as Love, but i think it’s not mere love but Ambivalence. simple idea like love or hate itself, seems possible to handle, but if it’s ambivalent, way to difficult to. still we should not off our hands from the handle…we should get along with it to time by time. each of our thoughts to think and care about future descendants can be noble and precious but if it last too long, could have turn into the curses or arrogancies so easily too. so we better know what we can leave to this world is not only Legacy but also Entrustment for THE LIVING DO ON TIME.
I have been following your reactions since the day Kat walked out on Eren's "death." I'm still processing how I feel about the ending. Isayama did admit that he rushed the ending so I can see why some things didn't feel like they made sense. I am going to miss AoT. I don't know if I've ever watched a show with such great writing. It truly has been quite the ride and as always, your discussion is great. Here's to many more awesome reactions!
I understand Kat's pov, but imo, the Rumbling had to happen the way it did. The world was trying to annihilate Paradis and Zeke's was dying. If they waited longer then they would have to resort to making Historia and her children into titans to replace Zeke and we know Eren was against that idea. His motivation was clear. It's to give his friends a better life and a better survival chance. Resolving conflicts is impossible, even Eren said so himself. But at least this eighty percent rumbling managed to give Paradis and even the rest of the world a second chance by erasing the titan powers. And what matters the most to Eren is that his friend lived a long and happy life. In other words, the purpose of this mass genocide is just to fulfill a little boy's selfish dream. But isn't being selfish a normal trait of everyone one of us?
I from Japan and very happy that watching same animation with you And also happy you can find Falcon and Tanjirou there voice acted by same actor I hope see you soon bye! Additional info……Connie and Zenitsu they also had same voice actor as like Falcon and Tanjirou.
Even before watching this episode I was thought the cycle of hatred would continue. Even if Eren successed in killing all of humanity outside the walls, Paradis would still be the starting point of a newer era of conflicts. We live in world without titans and we still are fighting endless wars, so AOT shows us that humanity will keep repeating history over and over again.
It is a FITTING ending for Attack on Titan because it is CONSISTENT with the original premise of the show = "To Get Rid Of All Titans From This World" = That is AoT's origin story. The 2000 years history of Attack on Titan can be viewed as Founder's Ymir personal struggle to overcome her Stockholm Syndrome (A real mental struggle where the captors fell in love with the kidnappers). She knows she is supposed to hate King Fritz who burned down her village, killed her family, enslaved and torture her. But being born and living the life she had, she still yearned for love and unfortunately fell for the worst man possible. OVERSIMPLICATION yes but you get the main gist. She is struggling and wants to be free from her obsession. About Eren, Ymir is the only one with the power to decide what happens with the Titan's power. Even in the episode "From you, 2000 years ago" Eren only prompted Ymir's to decide. However, like Eren said, he is powerless from this, as the Attack Titan he can see and experience the past, present and future all at the same time, he had tried to look for alternative solutions but the vision of the future just WOULD NOT change. (See Eren's convo with Armin) He didn't wanna go through with the Rumbling (His personal struggle and monologue in the previous movie) but he had very little choice, his only way is to move forward, he is A SLAVE OF FREEDOM. Re: Eren blaming himself for directing Dina towards mom. What people need to understand is AoT's story is a fixed single timeline and cannot have TIME PARADOX. What happened has happened, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE. Actually in that moment in time (mom gets eaten), Eren was neither the Attack Titan (Dad) nor Founding Titan(Freya). Future Eren can only speak to previous inheritors of Attack Titan (Dad) who was busy stealing Founding's power (He HAD to make his dad do it because that already happened, that is the only way he get founding powers and the only way he could see into the past). Future Eren couldn't do anything in a larger scale of things because it is a paradox. (If Eren asked dad to save his mom, mom didn't get eaten, Eren wouldn't become the Attack/Founding Titan and wouldn't see this memory and couldn't ask dad to save mom; It's a PARADOX; if he sees this memory then his mom has already been eaten), he is just watching it happen, powerless and can only blames himself. As Historia said: this is not Eren's choice, it's the consequence of everybody's action that caused the Rumbling. If the wall was never broken, mom never eaten, Eren never got Founding Power, Rumbling wouldn't happen. Imagine being Eren, you get to see all past, present and future at the same time but everything is set in stone, he can't change anything, he can only move forwards and see how the story plays out About Mikasa, she is the real person Ymir was waiting for all these while because Ymir sees herself in Mikasa. The "Runaway story" is like Infinite Tsukiyomi, it is only a VISION/DREAM of a possible future, the viewer experience it fully but it never happened in reality nor there is another timeline. Mikasa was presented with 2 scenarios 1) Give up on saving humanity and runaway with Eren, but this way Ymir continue to be a slave to King Fritz, Titan power remains and continue to terrorize humanity 2) Refuse to give up on humanity and sacrifice her love (she can still love Eren nonetheless), and Ymir can finally be free of Fritz command and choose to remove Titan Power from this world. Mikasa was able to influence Ymir to make the decision to be free from King Fritz. Hence in Ymir's vision she chose not to protect King Fritz (this is only symbolism, the past didn't change, only showing the change of Ymir's heart, once again, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE) The whole conversation between Armin and Zeke is basically a discussion about nihilism thinking that basically says "what's the point of living if all things eventually die, why does anything matter if everything comes to an end/dies" To the fans who think "AoT's ending is meaningless because war and conflict continues anyway" -Your thinking is very much like Zeke - "what's the point of living if everyone dies? what's the point of peace if conflict perpetuate?" try to think of it this way - Zeke asked Armin "Why do you wanna go back to fight so much if everything's gonna die anyway? " and Armin/Isayama said to him "Every small moment and happiness in life is worth living, even though all good things come to an end" This is also why AoT and Isayama didn't choose to go with the EUTHANIZATION plan, because all lives born is free, there will be good things that happen to them, and we shouldn't take this away from them. MANY people missed this but THIS is also a BRILLIANT 4th wall break homage saying THANK YOU to the readers - "Even if AoT is about to end, every moment that we (Isayama and fans) shared together was WORTH IT" The Ending/Conclusion of Attack on Titan is spoke through Levi's monologue = the sacrifice of the hearts of the scout regimen was to reach this place - "A WORLD WITHOUT TITAN". This brings the whole AoT story to a FULL CIRCLE. It might not feel satisfying for some but it is a SUITABLE Ending consistent and come back to its origin - "Getting Rid of Titans from this world". Isayama didn't set out to provide a solution for human conflict, what he did was only pointing out through Pixis and Erwin that "human conflict will never end until there's only 1 man remaining." He emphasized it once again through the end credits shots - nor matter what happens, human conflict never ends. Even if the Rumbling was complete, Paradis will still fight a civil war, even if Paradis was wiped out, the human remain will continue fighting". However to say this ending is MEANINGLESS was a misinterpretation, the whole discussion on the boat with Historia's letter is designed to specifically answer this - the scouts shall continue to fight in a world without titan, and they shall always fight for peace - Armin: "they will want to hear our story, how we used to fight as enemies have now come together to advocate for peace" This can be viewed as another 4th wall break talking about Attack On Titan, a story about conflict, about human cruelty, about war, about racism, despite EVERYTHING that happened, the ending comes down to both sides reconciling, advocating for peace and working for a better future. NOW the MAIN MESSAGE of Attack On Titan - NEVER GIVE UP HOPE EVEN IF THE WORLD IS CRUEL. Isayama did give a conclusion (conclusion but not solution) about human conflicts but a lot of people missed this. That is the single most important message from the beginning to the end of AoT. In the beginning, it seemed hopeless to fight titans, but scouts regimen never gave up. When they go up against Beast Titan it seemed hopeless but Erwin never give up. Fighting Colossal felt impossible but Armin didn't give up. Just because the fight against titans seem impossible, the characters never gave up. SIMILARLY, Just because the cycle inevitably continues, WE shouldn't give up. Juz becoz everybody ultimately dies in the end, WE should not give up on living. Just because all patients eventually die, Drs should NOT give up on sick patients. Juz becoz hatred and conflict doesn't stop, doesn't mean we should just give up on peace. We HOPE that someday will come a day, where humans can understand each other and peace can be achieved. It's as simple as that. I can understand if you can say it's not satisfying enough for everyone but there's 1000 Hamlets in 1000 people's eyes. It still doesn't takeaway all the great plot twist and brilliant writing of isayama.
The meaning of this end for me :The world is cruel, but it's also beautiful. Even if everything goes bad and the cycle of violence keeps repeating, we must continue to find an exit from the forest for future generations.
It's immoral to say Eren had a point, but I have to say... the titan's power is over, the eldians didn't have to keep the sad fate of be eaten to repass this curse. The population became equal to the people in the walls, so even if the war kept going, it was fair enough, it wasn't the whole world against them anymore. Maybe it wasn't even about the eldians anymore, they have repopulated the world, so at least 50% of the world are eldian's descendents, people don't know anymore about your distant parents. Even Mikasa's descendents not necessarily lived in the island for the eternity, after 2000 years they're probably spread around the world. And the war wouldn't stop even if 2 persons was all that left, this is the cursed human nature. Feel free to correct my grammar, I'm learning english.
He wasn't able to prevent this outcome because he knew he would try and thus prevented himself from preventing it. He is trapped in a time paradox where he wants to stop himself from doing something that technically has already happened. It's fucked, but also brilliant imo
The whole point of the ending was to show that humanity will always be in conflict for one reason or another. It could be religion, diplomatic beliefs, social hierarchy, etc. The show does make vague references to this fact a few times. Pixis and Eren's conversation that if humanity was faced with a mutual enemy, the world would come together to fight for survival. Erwin mentioning that humanity will never stop fighting each other until there is only one person or none left. The Marley security dude talking to Grisha on the wall talking about how peace gets boring and that humanity likes conflict to keep life interesting. The ending is definitely bittersweet.
Seeing Kat talk about how humans always end up fighting each other broke my heart. There's a lot of good people in the world but it only takes a few to cause great suffering to everyone else. Recent world events have been a prime example of that, I try to keep hope but sometimes I think its an unwinnable battle and we will never find peace in our time on this planet. Maybe a happy ending is reserved for fiction only.
I think Eren couldn't wipe Mikasas memory. He just visited her right at that time in the battle. After that she knew he was in the mouth of the titan, which implies that he told her and didn't make her forget.
By the way, Mikasa did not have her memory erased, Eren "saw" her right before she killed him (hence why she knew that he was in the mouth of the titan). For everyone else, their meeting with Eren happened before or during the Rumbling.
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anyway always love both of your reaction since the first episode of AOT till' now..the end of the long journey..
and i don't mean to offense u but katt looks alike annie lil' bit😅
Ymir got the power of the titan coz she wanted to get power, she was being hunted by people and hunting dogs. Meanwhile the boy in the future is exploring the abandoned island with his 'friendly' dog, there is no way he want the big power like titan (assumed the worm still exist)
The point is to Protect The Queen Historia and Devil island.
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I agree that it's hard to believe that Attack on Titan is over. It's been a long and emotional journey, but it has also been one of the most rewarding and thought-provoking stories I have ever experienced.
I think the finale was a fitting conclusion to the series. It was emotional, action-packed, and thought-provoking. It also left many questions unanswered, which is fitting for a show that has always been about the mysteries of the world.
I'm sure that fans will be debating the finale for years to come. But one thing is for sure: Attack on Titan is a masterpiece, and it will be remembered as one of the greatest anime series of all time.
I figured the baby scene would hit particularly hard since you guys are recent parents. It's so horrifying but at the aame time it represents that tiny bit of hope and goodness in humanity in the darkest moments.
indeed. unfortunately, it is happening right now. much much worse.
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Im sure it referrs to Shindlers List scene w. the child in red dress.
I just wanna give a big hug to Mikasa, my sweetest girl. ending a 2000 years curse, freeing ymir and save the world, even if she had to k*ll her most beloved. What a finale.
Some facts here:
- the bird is actually wrapping the scarf around mikasa.
- indeed Ackermans can not have their memories erased, thats why Eren chose to take her to the paths (the cabin reality), almost at the end, Mikasa had all her memories of that time when she lead the last attack.
- In Eren's grave, Mikasa wrote "Here forever, rest peacefully. My most beloved, my dear. 854"
- in the credits scene, is shown Mikasa died, and then you have a small glimpse of an old Armin visiting their graves, she was buried next to Eren.
- They got to spend 4 years in the cabin world we saw (4 years in paths time, that of course in real time was just seconds). He dies there after that time because of the ymir's curse, and that's the moment Mikasa in real world did the last charge to stop him.
- Eren had his eyes closed all throughout the rumbling, he opened them in his last moment to see Mikasa one last time.
So they spent 4 years path time in the cabin?
@@Etphoneholmes yeah 4 years there, the life span eren had left
@@Etphoneholmesyep when mikasa killed him was exact time he died cuz of the curse in the Path as an illusion. I have rewatched so many times to actually recognize this 😂. What a masterpiece
Other things to note as well:
- If you count the seasons in the 1st time-lapse, you'll find that it's 7 years plus the 3 years after they killed Eren then you see Mikasa with Jean (it's way clearer in the manga) so she grieved 10 years for him and Jean waited 10 years for her which means they got married at age 29-30. Since they were 19 during season 4.
- the one singing along linked horizon at the ending is Mikasa.
@@barry_esmail and eren joins mikasa in her singing as well
We were all the baby crying all the time, this show is so damn good
The main point of this entire story since the 1st episode is that titans aren't the issue. Humanity is the problem bc ppl r going to be ppl. Thats reality! Bravo AOT
Eren can only see the future of Attack titans and he was the last one so he couldn’t see past what he would achieve. Oh and, Just so y’all know, Eren and Mikasa did live together for 3 years in the paths. It wasn’t just an alternate reality if Mikasa told her she loved him. Anyways, Eren achieved his goal, he left everybody in the world on an equal playing field, his friends lived long happy lives, and now he is free in death. You can assume that with most of Asian culture, Eren was reincarnated as the bird and birds are usually a symbol of freedom so he’s free BUT like Eren said the conflict doesn’t end. Just like the boy in the end walking into the tree like Ymir, the cycle continues.
the point is the war will never end until there is only one human left
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It is well explained on the "Taki Channel" where the last 3 minutes are fully explained. It's in Japanese. Mikasa and Jean. That is a very interesting and convincing commentary.
Also, Mr. Isayama's message is that history repeats itself. Even in the real world, it is unfortunate, but wars do not end.
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56:30 thats because he ultimately wanted this to happen, he wanted to level everything, people dont get that eren actually wanted to do the rumbling
Fue un gusto a ver esta gran serie y ver sus reacciones, definitivamente se cierra una etapa
Uma curiosidade, esse bebê chorando foi gravado com choro do filho do ator de vós do Eren
The point was to give peace to his friends, for their lifetime and remove the curse of Yimir. He always knew that he couldn't stop the cycle of violence.
@DBT1007 The worm is the source of life Ymir just created rules for it
The path Like a birdcage, past and future Elder humans will never be free Even death
I like the way it ended
@@DBT1007you got quite a lot of things wrong. let me help you:
eren doesnt want to kill himself.
eren doesnt want to "bait out the worm".
eren dosnt "mix" with the worm.
ymir doesnt smile because she sees mikasa loving a "hard boy" too.
ymir isnt freed because the worm is gone.
ymir smiles because she witnesses mikasa letting go of the one she loved the most. that is what ymir never could. that is why she was stuck in the paths. that is why the titan powers existed.
mikasa showed ymir that you CAN let go. and that is what she does. now she is no longer stuck in the paths. which means the worm has no connection to the real world anymore. and without ymir in the paths building titans, the titan powers are gone.
I agree. And the ending was so realistic, I'm glad Isayama was so logical about not giving us happy ending that everyone wants, instead he wants to realistic, given the situation of our own world too.
Buddy, his main priority was fulfilling his dream and expressing his disappointment over how the outside world is, whatever benefits he gave his friends and eldia are just secondary. He said it, he wanted to flatten it all once the world didn’t look like the book.
Peace from war yes, but i don't think his friends had a peaceful life, imagine u still have to live after knowing u failed to save 80% of mankind, not to mention u're also responsible to prevent it from happening on the first place
Eren is not able to see the future past his death because the power of the titans doesn’t exist anymore. His goal was to make sure the people closest to him lived long lives and to remove conflict in their lifetime.
But if someone else takes on the magical sea worm, wouldn't that connect again?
@@everforward5561 Different circumstances, Ymir was being hunted, was afraid, and scared when she received her Titan Powers. She wished for a form where she couldn’t be killed and be strong (a Titan) and a place where she couldn’t die (The Paths).
The after credits is open to interpretation so we don’t even know if the Halllucigenia is even there but the Kid is going in there willingly and out of curiosity compared to Ymir who did it out of Survival, so to me it leaves a hopeful note that it’d be different than before.
Eren already know that he's going to die in the future that's why he keep going to past after he got killed by mikasa but the result are still the same, he said it to armin
yep, Eren was no longer able to see the future past his death because the power of the titans ceased to exist after he transferred the Founding Titan to Zeke and then killed Zeke. The Founding Titan was the source of the power to see the future, so without it, Eren was no longer able to access that ability.
Eren's goal was indeed to make sure that the people closest to him lived long lives and to remove conflict in their lifetime. He believed that the only way to achieve this was to eliminate the threat posed by the outside world, which he felt would require the Rumbling. The Rumbling was a massive attack that Eren unleashed using the power of the Founding Titan to crush and destroy all of the nations outside of Paradis Island.
Eren's actions were controversial and sparked much debate among fans of the series. Some viewers believed that Eren was justified in his actions, while others believed that he was ultimately a villain. Ultimately, whether or not Eren was a hero or a villain is a matter of opinion. There is no right or wrong answer, and each viewer is entitled to their own interpretation of the story.
Despite the controversial nature of Eren's actions, there is no doubt that he was a complex and fascinating character. He was driven by a strong sense of love and loyalty, and he was willing to sacrifice everything to protect those he cared about. His story is a powerful reminder of the complexities of human nature and the difficult choices that we must sometimes make in order to survive.
@@adam_clown ymir was hunted by dogs while that kid had a dog as a companion
I knew kat would be absolutely going through it the entire episode. She’s so passionate about her shows.
I fell şad for Annie Rinier and gabi 😢 they had Hard life but they did Good for save People
am Japanese. I'm using automatic translation, so I don't know if I can understand it well, but please let me know. The Japanese have lived peacefully for decades thanks to their defeat in World War II and the peace education that followed. I think it is a wonderful country that many people who died for their country in kamikaze attacks dreamed of. However, while enjoying this peace, somewhere in my heart I think that it will not last until 100 or 1000 years from now, just like the ending of AOT. That's why I want to cherish the casual daily life of racing up the hill or playing catch. It was fun to see the reactions of both of you. I would like to take a long journey with you again.
私も日本人だから、作者が日本人が思っている戦争や平和に対する考えをよく表しているなと思ったよ。
Good catch Kat on Mikasa not being able to have her memories wiped, which means her conversation with Eren (the time spent in the log cabin) happened right in the moments before she killed Eren (also why you see Eren's face with titan marks in her paths dimension talk). She was also experiencing a headache at the time which means Ymir was watching them.
I fell şad for Annie and armin loook cute but l hope they get happy in end❤ amzing
I've been wondering about that, and now it makes sense. Except it must have been on Falco, since she says "I can't" in response to Eren.
Don't think the ending with boy and the tree implied a repition of the cycle. Keep in mind when Ymir encountered the life force she was hunted, by dogs too, so the power she created was that of a stronger body and a invisible connection to the Eldians, so she wouldn't get hurt any more. By contrast, the boy in the end seems to be peacefully exploring with a loyal canine companion. Chances are, if he does encounter the life force in that tree-cave, the power springing from him might be more benevolent.
I think the point is what Sasha’s father said, that we all need to always try to get out of the forest, no matter how difficult it was.
During the post credit the song lyrics literally says "Get out of the forest" too
@@fettstea”No matter how many times you lose your way”
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Eren's goal was not world peace or eternal salvation for paradis coz it's unattainable. He always knew war will always be there. The very goal is for his friends to live, happy long lives. No more titan's curse which coz for his friends' lives to lengten. And his friends got to live longer and died before paradis even got bombed. It was bombed centuries later
If Eren ever thought of world peace, it was through Armin.
@@user-qx1id1dt8x world peace is unattainable
Yup I LOVE Kat taking in the bleakness of the ending and working through that. It’s like the scene between Zeke and Armin, it’s about the little things in life. Even if conflict continues and humanity is doomed to repeat the same mistakes, there is still hope and there is still love. Not to be too mushy about it lol 😅 Anyhow it’s been a great ride with you two, thanks for watching it with us!
What? Where did I say that? And even then thats more mature than "everyone survives, everyone is happy" ending we got. Oh wow the main cast all lived happily ever after and the unknown plebians died of nuclear war. Wow so deep. Im 14 and this is deep. No whats a more mature and sophisticated ending is Eren breaking the cycle of life, and going against fate itself. Putting his fists up against fate. Having erens character turn into a "im an idiot thats why I killed 80 percent of people, also jean rails mikasa, and paradise gets nuked" wow thats so deep. My "peaceful" ending entails breaking this cycle by wiping everyone out. The cringevenger alliance, the people of the world, and wiping the memories of paradise once more. Thats Erens true freedom and success for his people. @lpreactions565
yeah and actually its a on going theme through out the story like Erwin speech before the great charge. He said to answer Floch "No matter what you do or what kind of life you had you end up dying, does it mean that Life is meaningless?"
@@ST4MPLM4DBfunny enough, Erwin also said humans won't stop killing themselves unless the number is reduced to 1 or less
@@user-qx1id1dt8x and the dude still believed that life wasn't meaningless till the end, that's wild!!! Erwin is another level of fighting spirit and will force
@@lilkurva180Eren's not a hero, I think that's what you're missing. This story isn't a hero's journey, it's a cautionary tale about concentrating too much power in any one person or group's hands.
The talk between the two of you was wonderful. I like happy endings, and I was satisfied with the ending of Attack on Titan. I think it's a realistic ending, and one person named Eren fought a battle against free will and lost. I think we have successfully completed that growth and change. I don't think such creative works come out very often, and I'm grateful to Mr. Isayama.
It shows that Mikasa's feelings remained unchanged until her death.
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Dandelion: true love
A single white rose: love at first sight
Yellow tulip: fame, unrequited love
A single tulip also means "You are my destiny.
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Four Carnations
Single carnation: you are my destiny (white carnation)
White carnations: pure love. Rejection of love
Four carnation : I will love you forever
That's beautiful , but how do you know so much about flowers meaning
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I am Japanese".
This language of flowers is uniquely Japanese and also applies to Mikasa, who is an oriental. Since the attack on titan set in Europe, I used the oriental language of flowers to convey my feelings to Eren so that no one would notice.
@@kmdujgt that's so cool and I love knowing the meaning of those flowers. thank you for those information🥰
Leaving my comment here, to come back again
thanks for the info
Well in the ending where we saw paradise got destroyed it happens after like maybe 100 or 1000 years after the events of Aot and it shows conflict will still remain . Eren was just a selfish person who wanted to protect his people and give paradise time and a fair chance to develop an army and plus he himself said he just wanted to flatten the world.
The ending song is "For you 2000 or even 20000 years in the future"
Actually, not even that. Ultimately Eren at his core only cared about his inner circle of friends. He didn't give a shit about the rest of the world or even the other Eldians or Paradisians. Eren succeeded in the sense that his loved ones specifically, the only ones he cared about, got to live out the rest of their lives, even though the world in general went on as usual (civilizations flourished and then got destroyed).
This episode was absolutely incredible. It was everything i expected and more. I think i cried about 5 times throughout the entire episode it was so powerful and tragic, yet so beautiful somehow. As someone who has been following this show for the past few years now it's very sad to see it end after all this time, but all good things must come to an end eventually.
A lot of us Manga readers were sceptical to the ending but i think the people who didn’t like it simply didn’t understand AOT in the end.
One of the scenes which people disliked the most was Eren’s breakdown to Armin in the paths. People felt it was pathetic, like Armin said it was, but also so out of character for him.
Eren broke down because the emotional wall he built around himself finally came crashing down after it was all over. He let out his true feelings for the first time ever.
The scene with Eren and Armin in the paths was so beautifully made. «Wait for me in hell». In the end they both realized neither of them were the good guys. No one was in aot, which is again a reoccuring theme in this show. As we saw in the end the cycle of hatred continued even after everything Eren did for them. This is what i LOVE about this show so much. It’s hyper realistic. It is basic human nature to turn to war sooner or later. As Eren stated himself «I dont know why i did all this, this all happened, because i am a stupid idiot who gained godly powers». This is kinda the same as what happened in the real world as well with certain bad people in our history, no?
A cool little detail i think a lot of people missed it that in the intro of season 2 we see Zeke’s beast titan running around with tons of other animals. Those were all the previous Beast titans from the previous owners of it. Very cool to see all the previous nine titans finally being shown. Isayama’s foreshadowing is simply next level. He is a genius. The more u rewatch the show, the more details like this and foreshadowing u notice. It’s everywhere, placed right infront of our eyes, yet we dont realize it before rewatching it. This is one of the things that make this show the masterpiece it is.
Also i can’t not mention the scene where all the people on the cliff were passing on the baby. That scene was actually inspired by Schindler’s list. I literally had fullbody chills throughout the entire segment. This was in my opinion the most beautiful episode of the show so far. Also the Music throughout the entire episode was incredible. They brought back so many bangers from the previous seasons which i loved.
The scene in the cabin with Mikasa and Eren broke me. Her seeing the alternete timeline they could of had together if she just said her true feelings when they were talking at the top of the mountain in the last episode literally had me crying so hard.
Eren telling her to forget about him but also wanting her not to find another man was childish yet fits Eren’s character so much. Deep down he is a child and had been botteling up these feelings since the start. Eren was the only character who in the end didn’t change at all. He was always like this, since the start.
In the end Mikasa never forgot about Eren and got buried next to him with the same flowers she put there on his grave.
AOT is one of the most tragic stories ever told, yet one of the most beautiful ones i have seen. Like Mikasa said earlier «this world is so cruel. It is also very beautiful.»
Now since the show is finished we finally realize why the birds in so many scenes were so important. Falco in the first intro of season 4 reaching out to the birds, and Eren returning to Mikasa one last time as a white bird which symbolizes and represents "freedom" and "peace".
Also big up to Armin’s VA this episode. Incredible performance.
One other little scene some people tend to forget is the big plot twist that was revealed. Eren all along being the one that sent the smiling titan to kill his own mother to get the outcome he needed and the hatred which motivated him to kill the titans. It was supposed to be Bertholdt but, Eren already knew how everything would turn out in the paths if he didn’t change it to how he had seen it. «One of the powers of the founding titan is that my head is an entire mess, there is no future or past or present». Eren said that he tried to change everything he could but in the end killing 80% of humanity was the only choice he was left with to make the Eldians seem like heroes. He also blamed himself for the death of Sasha and Hange and the others along the way. The future was already set in stone. Eren had no control over it, and all along he was a slave to freedom. In the end he became what he hated the most.
I just want to thank all of you reading this for this incredible journey and for the fantastic community aot has had. It has been one hell of a ride with yall.
Attack on titan will go down in history as the greatest show of all time and a modern masterpiece, and nothing will change that. This show will for ever be my number one. Thank you Isayama for everything and thank you for changing my life ❤.
"To the boy who sought freedom, goodbye."
The credit epilogue was Isayama giving a pretty definitive answer on whether Eren was a sympathetic villain or a misunderstood hero in an otherwise very nuanced and balanced story. But no matter what you think of Eren, he didn't break the cycle. He didn't save the world. The end didn't justify the means. He killed 80% of the world so his few friends could live long happy lives, and so the 2000 year old ghost of a girl could be free, and that was that.
THANK YOU
Finally someone gets it
Are people unironically calling Eren a hero? 😂
Eren is a flawed person, he's not a monster but has the mindset of someone who can't coexist with humanity
I agree, but I think that more than that, the message is clear, the problem is us and our leaders, and our weapons, Eldia + titans, Marley + titans, Eren + titans, and in the future, that society + the nukes and weapons, and perhaps it was no longer Paradis, since thousands of years passed, no empire was eternal. In theory the problem was the titans, they were no longer there so we see that the problem is conflict, intolerance and etc...
i mean removing titan powers in the world is pretty freakin huge tbh
Reiner was literally the armor of humanity
There are definitely alot of Biblical themes in this show including the tree of life, The chosen people (The Jews), Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, free will vs pre destination, nihilism, and love that spans generations. I think this show might have a frustrating ending depending on your worldview, but it definitely an important ending. at the very least, the last shot of the city burning and the tree shows the realistic nature of the sinful human heart. Loved your reaction and discussion guys. God bless.
Exactly! And thank you ❤️
I love Zeke building sandcastles during what is essentially the end of the world. He's so iconic. One of my favorite characters to be honest. I absolutely love the moment of Armin saying thank you to Eren and it cuts to Eren looking shocked because it feels very reminiscent of Mikasa thanking Eren for wrapping her scarf. Both Armin and Mikasa thanked Eren for helping them and showed him appreciation when he thought he was worthless. After all these years, it's finally over. We are free. Goodbye to all of the amazing characters from this story, both alive and dead. Goodbye Armin and Mikasa. And to Eren, the boy who sought freedom, goodbye. Thank you, Isayama.
Yeah my only issue with the finale is I was hoping Zeke would get a better badass ending, but then again I'm happy Levi got to the end of his mission
@ishaan863 zeke's ending made sense tbh, as he understood the meaning of life and paid for the sins ( when he took those lives from others )
@alexinator-hh5fe the sandcastle is a metaphor to his ideology when he was explaining it to Armin. Life being meaningless and short, building a sandcastle that's just going to disappear in a few hours.
I agree that Zeke's sandcastle building is an iconic moment. It is a reminder that even in the face of despair, there is always room for hope and imagination. Zeke's ability to find joy in such a dire situation is a testament to his resilience and strength of character.
The moment of Armin thanking Eren is also a powerful and poignant one. It is a reminder that even the most troubled and conflicted of individuals can find redemption and forgiveness. Armin's words of gratitude are a balm to Eren's wounded soul, and they give him a sense of peace that he has not felt in a long time.
The ending of Attack on Titan is a bittersweet one. While it is a tragedy to say goodbye to these beloved characters, it is also a celebration of their lives and their struggles. They have faced unimaginable challenges, but they have never given up on their dreams of freedom and peace. Their legacy will live on, inspiring generations to come.
Thank you, Isayama, for sharing this incredible story with the world. It is a masterpiece that will be remembered for years to come.
The point of what Eren does was 2 main things. First and foremost he saved his friends. He turned them into heroes by making himself the villain. The second part is he literally leveled everything. There was no longer a super power oppressing the world. Everyone was back to square one. This meant that Mikasa, Armin and the rest of the scouts could live their lives in peace before war broke out again.
I fell şad for Rinier and gabi and armin here seeing his mother and gebi too his pain hit me Hard😢
"What's the point of this ?"
I believe this is the same as saying, "Why even do anything when you are gonna die someday ?"
You don't live for the future. You live for the present while working for the future. Its the absolutely miniscule things that matter the most in life. I am going through the roughest phase of my life. But it is watching Attack on Titan, an animated show made by people I don't know and prolly never will, that gave me the most joy through all these years. The war at the end happened probably centuries in the future. Eren's friends did live in peace for the rest of their lifetime, and probably so did their children and grandchildren. Like we did have a World War II after 1st (and their are not so good things happening in the world right now) and you never know when a 3rd might start, but u don't live fearing about that.
Also, criticizing the animation is confusing to me? I know u aren't saying it was bad, however this is probably the best animated part of Attack on Titan and its not even close. There were maybe a couple of off-model shots of Eren, but like...that's all. Most character looked the best they've ever had (especially Levi, Mikasa and Pieck), titans looked the best they've ever had, action is the best it has ever been (whether ODM or titan v titan), the best ODM cut in the entire series, most haunting shots of the series in the rumbling, most beautiful shots (wallpaper worthy). As for production, this is probably the only part that got the maximum amount of time and resources that AOT has ever had.
Anyways, it has been a great journey with y'all. Hoping for a final video, for ur thoughts on the series now that it has ended, your fav characters, moments, etc.
I personally got a more hopeful tone from the very last scene with the boy. It was a direct contrast to the scene where ymir first finds the tree. Ymir finds it when she is scared and running for life, gravely injured and being chased by hunting dogs. She is not familiar of the forest. However, the boy is clearly an explorer and this is probably of his own choice. He is being driven by curiosity and his own will to explore, with a pet dog by his side as a companion. While him entering the tree might be the start of a new cycle, the situation is notably different. It is not necessary that what comes out of it will be titans, since as Zeke said it was Ymir's desire for a bigger, stronger, immortal body (to escape death and the accompanying fear)that created the titans in the first place. In the end, even though Paradis ended up getting destroyed way into the future, the efforts of people like Armin helped make a small but significant change, shown by how history doesn't repeat itself for this one moment of the rediscovery of the tree.
Also, I think it's important to frame that Eren's actions, atleast directly, really did result in nothing good. It would come off weird to me if there was some reason to justify/lighten what he did in the end. His actions at the most only enabled a buffer period for conflict, and he enabled Mikasa to free Ymir from her trauma and hence remove the power of the titans. It was Armin and co's efforts that created a peace that lasted for atleast hundreds of years. Compared to all the damage that Eren caused to all life and the planet, the positives are miniscule.
I agree with you l hope his boy ok
Hola chicos muchas gracias por su reacción
The last kid finding the cave below the tree, even though it's a parallel to Yimir Fritz, it's still represented differently. Ymir was a slave running for her life when she accidentally fell into the hole. The last kid with the dog, was exploring out of curiosity, so he was free. Even after so much violence, freedom is achieved.
What was the point, you ask? I believe Isamaya is deliberately telling us that there was no point. That the titans were not the problem all along. It was always the evil in humans in power.. Or maybe it is the power that corrupts people somehow. With this story coming from Japan, every nuclear explosion of the colossal titan reminds me that this is not really fiction or a pessimistic, tragic tale.. it's a very realistic reflection of the world we live in.
That being said, the reason Eren did this is to grant his friends and people a relatively peaceful life (there is no absolute peace to seek for anyway), and more importantly, a normal life without titans, without children eating their parents only to live 13 years and perish. That was the cycle that Eren wanted to end. No one knows if it's about to start again, but that's not on Eren, he did end Ymir's curse.. He did his part. The rest was on humanity, and humanity failed, as expected.
Back in season 1 in the battle of Trost, when Eren was about to get eaten by the bearded titan he said «As if i could die in a place like this…» Kinda ironic isn’t it, that in the end he did die in the mouth of a titan.
which itself makes no sense. Why is he in the mouth and not the nape
@@ActualCoconutI don’t know would you be needing the answer right now but he is in mouth because he has war hammer Titan and can place himself anywhere he prefers. This has been mentioned many times by the squad too when they were trying to figure out where he possibly could be
I think the end credits confuse people a lot. Eren did change a lot of things. He ended 2000 years of ear and suffering for at least a few hundred years. His friends lived long happy lives, there are no more titans and the people of the island are finally at an equal level to the rest of the world. The Island not only survived but thrived in technological advancements for hundreds of years. Naturally the wars started again due to human conflict, and eventually humans destroyed themselves. Thousands of years later in an post apocalyptic world a kid find the tree and everything starts again.
10 years of a masterpiece and not a single second wasted. You two guessed right at the end, the cycle of titans repeats. Glad you two got to experience this masterpiece.
I don't think it continues. The circumstances for Ymir was far different than the kid who finds the tree this go around. The suffering she was experiencing manifested the Titans, being chased by dogs, wounded and fearing for her life. The kid has a sog companion, and chooses to explore and discovers the tree. So while the kid will make contact with the glowy-thing (forgive me forgetting the name), it most likely won't manifest into titan powers, but something else, as a reflection of the kid's emotional state of being.
Zeke literally explains that the Power of the Titans was based on what Ymir wished for: a bigger, stronger, invincible body and a realm without death. So no, if the boy makes contact with the worm something completely different than titans will happen.
The "source of life" has divine-like powers over life, not 'titan powers'.
Not the end nearly anyone expected (or wanted to a degree).
But an ending that has bought so many people together.
AoT
My opinion is the ending was perfect
any other ending would've ruined the show
Sonny did edit this with his heart and soul. Dude really gave us a show from a show. Holy fluff!
About mikasa part, indeed Ackerman was immune to become titan and memory manipulation, but why Mikasa? Ymir & Eren was trying to get to Mikasa head and alter her memory, that's why she had an headache as a form of resistance to this. here's my analysis as a comparison based on clue on this journey.
In season 1 episode 2, Hannes was throwing Eren, after that, Mikasa get a headache because she wanted to punch Hannes for what he did to Eren.
But in Season 4 episode 14, even though Eren said harsh things to Mikasa, she didn't get any headache because it was inline with what Eren told to Armin this episode in the path.
also, in this episode I believe Mikasa had the most hurtful headache because of the attempt of the memory manipulation.
To the boy who sought freedom, Goodbye. RIP Eren.
In the end, you did exterminate every last titan from this world.
This was an awesome adaptation.
Thank you Isayama,
Well done, MAPPA.
This was truly the end of an era.
I respect the ending of this story. I think this is the best ending. History repeats itself. Eren thougt that eternal peace was impossible. But He wanted Mikasa, Armin, and his friends to live in peace, and this wish came true.
In the interview of The New York Times, Hajime Isayama said,〝I guess there could have been an ending where it was a happy ending and the war ended and everything was fine and dandy. I guess that could have been possible. At the same time, the end of fighting and the end of contention itself kind of seems hokey. It kind of seems like it’s not even believable. It’s just not plausible in the world we’re living in right now. And so, sadly, I had to give up on that kind of happy ending.”
Join the slaughter for the sake of the country vs stop the slaughter and become a traitor
What do you choose?
I came immediately to say it one last time: SHINZOU WO SASAGEYO! 🫡🕊️❤
Most of the reactors misunderstand but the bird at the end is possibly the reincarnation of Eren. It didn't try to get the scarf away but wrapped it around Mikasa!
I fell şad for kids and baby sesnes 😭 save him that show us they are hope in the futher
ur reaction to aot is how i discovered ur channel. its been an amazing experience watching w u guys. still cant believe we're at the end of the series.
Arigathanks Hajime Isayama for this.❤ and Thank You Kat and Sonny for reacting to this masterpiece.
At least there was a kind of peace for thousand years whitout Titas with a sadly huge cost, till the next generations messed up
I think the series did kind of end on a positive note. A cave in a tree was entered into again, but this time by someone seemingly free of fear. Fear being something emphasized in this finale as a cause of war.
Eren can see in the future until the point where he dies. Is not that he can see the future centuries ahead. He could have seen way beyond after he dies if the power of the titans (attack titan) would have still existed after his death. It wasnt pointless. All his friends got to live peaceful lives, thats what he cared the most.
Your reaction is one of the best, crisp clear image without over editing, so glad I found this channel
Much appreciated 🙏🏻
2人のリアクションがとても好きです！進撃の巨人をリアクションしてくれてありがとう！
40:01 whats the point of all this....i want you guys to live long and be happy...mikasa lived long and died a good death...armin kept visiting their grave and also eventually died...hundreds of years of peace and development...and probably thousands of years of paradise safety...eventually war caught up...not cause of eldians or mayleans or whatever but just war in general...nobody could end war all over thw world...just look at our world.
In summary the point was to save his friends...and he did...every single one of them sadly except hange and sasha
That’s the point of this whole story you cannot stop the cycle of violence. But what he did wasn’t for nothing. He still secured peace for his loved ones and generations for hundreds of years before the fighting started again
I absolutely feel you, Kat. I went through it. I almost didn't bring myself to watch it because I knew the ending would be crushing. The only things we can look forward to are the positive connections we make with others and the contributions of beauty we can give in our life time. As violent beings we will always be destined to bring destruction. We can only do what we can to make sure we don't contribute to that destruction in our personal lives.
The point is that his friends lived a happy life and that's it, he can't change human nature, there will always be war, it's horrible but that's life, shit what's happening with the Palestinians, The Cycle is always destined to repeat itself.
War, war never changes.
That question applies in our society as well. What's the point indeed.
This is the one I’ve been waiting for! Glad to join you guys in the ride!
This anime being fiction is too real. And that's what throws people off when watching sometimes hehe.
the characters are unique and realistic kind of. theyre complicated and yet simple.
Big hugs for Mikasa forever 💔
Sakura one shot Mikasa
@@chun-chunmaru not
Sakura doesn't have SHIT on Mikasa, at least Mikasa doesn't have be saved like a thousand times like Trashura.
The ending was perfect in my opinion.
The ending's message is: humans will be humans. Peace never lasts forever, someday in the future global wars will start again and then another period of peace, and so on.
The message Isayama tried to convey was that life has no meaning or purpose or "direction" in the grand scheme of things. Creatures, nations, planets, stars, etc are born, survive or thrive for a while and eventually die, to be replaced by something else which repeats the cycle. For living creature, especially a human being, what gives meaning are connections, e.g. with other people, and the small ephemeral moments of joy. I still think Isayama could have done better, but after watching the finale, I'm not mad about the ending as I was when the final chapter came out. Many small details were added or changed to make this a more compelling conclusion for the story, e.g. the conversation between Armin and Eren which was significantly improved, Reiner's "what a man you are" is gone, Ymir appearing before Mikasa which confirms why the titan curse was gone once Ymir found peace (this one from the additional semi-chapter 139.5), etc.
That nuke scene happens around 2.000 years into the future (if we take into consideration the credits theme song titled "To You 2000 years or Maybe 20000 Years Into the Future"). Eren was never written to be a perfect character or a genius, let alone his "plan" for peace. We should consider that World War II happened just 80 years ago and we are at the brink of another global conflict. The message is clear: we should live each day the best we can while peace still lasts.
Kat asked "What`s the point of this if everything is going to continue?"
Well from what I understand Eren just wanted his friends to live a long happy life , which they did . He knew conflict will never stop, titan power or not , we humans love conflict .
So by erasing 80% of humanity he managed to "help" his friends have that life .
Is it wrong ? Hell yeah
Also I've seen lots of people talk about how they will not unalive that many people . Y'all , when you have a power that fucks you up mentaly , you literally can't tell what's the past and the future, you can't distinguish things . Also you don't know how you will react when you have THAT MUCH power , also he literally was an adolecent when he saw everything . That fucks you up for good .
I like to think of it as a mix of Erwin and Armin's previous quotes. Erwin's last speech, about sacrifice and striving towards progress as the only way they can rebel against this cruel world. And Armin, you must always hope and try to strive towards a day where you you can resolve everything with peace. Just because things are hopeless, doesn't mean you should give up. Maybe war is inevitable with humans, but what we can do is continue and try to avoid them, mitigate the damage, because that's the only way we can be free? Like, if it's inevitable that there will be war, better to have 1 war every 200 years than 5 wars in 1 year, right?
In an anime full of harrowing scenes, the cliff baby has to be the most harrowing of all. An image that stuck with me since I first saw it in the manga. Been a great ride, you two! Glad to have been able to have some of my favourite reactors go through what I did when I saw all this for the first time, hah
Ackerman's are immune to the mindwipe.
That has been established.
Levi didn't seemingly receive any epiphanies. Eren did admire him in his youth after all.
She remembered the cottage scene with Eren before his death.
She wrapped the scarf and proclaimed she can't forget or throw it away.
It's why she knew where to find him. (The mouth)
I would expect that Eren visited that memory for her at that very moment.
That's why Falco's shadow was there.
The past OVA episode of Eren dying no matter what decisions are made, probably, is one of many cases where Eren prepares her for this last waking dream sequence so that it won't be way too out of place for her to drop down rather than act.
I mean. At least I speculate so.
Nice talks from yall. Thanks.
The points i recieved were..
They used simple word as Love,
but i think it’s not mere love but Ambivalence.
simple idea like love or hate itself, seems possible to handle, but if it’s ambivalent, way to difficult to. still we should not off our hands from the handle…we should get along with it to time by time.
each of our thoughts to think and care about future descendants can be noble and precious but if it last too long, could have turn into the curses or arrogancies so easily too.
so we better know what we can leave to this world is not only Legacy but also Entrustment for THE LIVING DO ON TIME.
He just wanted his friends to be live long and he succeeded
Fun fact: The baby's cry is recorded from Eren's VA Yuki Kaji's baby.
It's been one hell of a ride, thank you for sharing your reactions with us!
this is so well edited , thank u guys , it was fun watching with yall!
I have been following your reactions since the day Kat walked out on Eren's "death." I'm still processing how I feel about the ending. Isayama did admit that he rushed the ending so I can see why some things didn't feel like they made sense. I am going to miss AoT. I don't know if I've ever watched a show with such great writing. It truly has been quite the ride and as always, your discussion is great. Here's to many more awesome reactions!
Hmm it made sense to me especially if you watch it back to back multiple times like me 😅
He also said he didn't regret it so I feel like we need to have an open mind and heart to understand all the aspects that the ending represent.
Eren & Mikasa first and end kiss…💔💔💔💔💔💔
In the end the problem was not the Eldian or the titans, It was humanity, always a conflict not matter what era
I swear Isayama was like "Levi is still too strong. I need to nerf him further" 🤣Like as if losing 3 fingers and an eye wasn't enough
I understand Kat's pov, but imo, the Rumbling had to happen the way it did. The world was trying to annihilate Paradis and Zeke's was dying. If they waited longer then they would have to resort to making Historia and her children into titans to replace Zeke and we know Eren was against that idea. His motivation was clear. It's to give his friends a better life and a better survival chance. Resolving conflicts is impossible, even Eren said so himself. But at least this eighty percent rumbling managed to give Paradis and even the rest of the world a second chance by erasing the titan powers. And what matters the most to Eren is that his friend lived a long and happy life. In other words, the purpose of this mass genocide is just to fulfill a little boy's selfish dream. But isn't being selfish a normal trait of everyone one of us?
absolut insane reasoning and I can't believe people agree with Eren's solution. Dude was clinically insane and people lap it up
Mikasaaa🥺💔😭❤
Google searches of the animal Okapi went through the roof after this episode.
I from Japan and very happy that watching same animation with you
And also happy you can find Falcon and Tanjirou there voice acted by same actor
I hope see you soon bye!
Additional info……Connie and Zenitsu they also had same voice actor as like Falcon and Tanjirou.
Even before watching this episode I was thought the cycle of hatred would continue. Even if Eren successed in killing all of humanity outside the walls, Paradis would still be the starting point of a newer era of conflicts. We live in world without titans and we still are fighting endless wars, so AOT shows us that humanity will keep repeating history over and over again.
I kinda expected the danish word to be despair! Thank you for your reactions you two. I agree, the baby scene was unfair. All the best!
It is a FITTING ending for Attack on Titan because it is CONSISTENT with the original premise of the show = "To Get Rid Of All Titans From This World" = That is AoT's origin story.
The 2000 years history of Attack on Titan can be viewed as Founder's Ymir personal struggle to overcome her Stockholm Syndrome (A real mental struggle where the captors fell in love with the kidnappers). She knows she is supposed to hate King Fritz who burned down her village, killed her family, enslaved and torture her. But being born and living the life she had, she still yearned for love and unfortunately fell for the worst man possible. OVERSIMPLICATION yes but you get the main gist. She is struggling and wants to be free from her obsession.
About Eren, Ymir is the only one with the power to decide what happens with the Titan's power. Even in the episode "From you, 2000 years ago" Eren only prompted Ymir's to decide. However, like Eren said, he is powerless from this, as the Attack Titan he can see and experience the past, present and future all at the same time, he had tried to look for alternative solutions but the vision of the future just WOULD NOT change. (See Eren's convo with Armin) He didn't wanna go through with the Rumbling (His personal struggle and monologue in the previous movie) but he had very little choice, his only way is to move forward, he is A SLAVE OF FREEDOM.
Re: Eren blaming himself for directing Dina towards mom. What people need to understand is AoT's story is a fixed single timeline and cannot have TIME PARADOX. What happened has happened, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE. Actually in that moment in time (mom gets eaten), Eren was neither the Attack Titan (Dad) nor Founding Titan(Freya). Future Eren can only speak to previous inheritors of Attack Titan (Dad) who was busy stealing Founding's power (He HAD to make his dad do it because that already happened, that is the only way he get founding powers and the only way he could see into the past). Future Eren couldn't do anything in a larger scale of things because it is a paradox. (If Eren asked dad to save his mom, mom didn't get eaten, Eren wouldn't become the Attack/Founding Titan and wouldn't see this memory and couldn't ask dad to save mom; It's a PARADOX; if he sees this memory then his mom has already been eaten), he is just watching it happen, powerless and can only blames himself. As Historia said: this is not Eren's choice, it's the consequence of everybody's action that caused the Rumbling. If the wall was never broken, mom never eaten, Eren never got Founding Power, Rumbling wouldn't happen. Imagine being Eren, you get to see all past, present and future at the same time but everything is set in stone, he can't change anything, he can only move forwards and see how the story plays out
About Mikasa, she is the real person Ymir was waiting for all these while because Ymir sees herself in Mikasa. The "Runaway story" is like Infinite Tsukiyomi, it is only a VISION/DREAM of a possible future, the viewer experience it fully but it never happened in reality nor there is another timeline. Mikasa was presented with 2 scenarios 1) Give up on saving humanity and runaway with Eren, but this way Ymir continue to be a slave to King Fritz, Titan power remains and continue to terrorize humanity 2) Refuse to give up on humanity and sacrifice her love (she can still love Eren nonetheless), and Ymir can finally be free of Fritz command and choose to remove Titan Power from this world. Mikasa was able to influence Ymir to make the decision to be free from King Fritz. Hence in Ymir's vision she chose not to protect King Fritz (this is only symbolism, the past didn't change, only showing the change of Ymir's heart, once again, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE)
The whole conversation between Armin and Zeke is basically a discussion about nihilism thinking that basically says "what's the point of living if all things eventually die, why does anything matter if everything comes to an end/dies" To the fans who think "AoT's ending is meaningless because war and conflict continues anyway" -Your thinking is very much like Zeke - "what's the point of living if everyone dies? what's the point of peace if conflict perpetuate?" try to think of it this way - Zeke asked Armin "Why do you wanna go back to fight so much if everything's gonna die anyway? " and Armin/Isayama said to him "Every small moment and happiness in life is worth living, even though all good things come to an end" This is also why AoT and Isayama didn't choose to go with the EUTHANIZATION plan, because all lives born is free, there will be good things that happen to them, and we shouldn't take this away from them. MANY people missed this but THIS is also a BRILLIANT 4th wall break homage saying THANK YOU to the readers - "Even if AoT is about to end, every moment that we (Isayama and fans) shared together was WORTH IT"
The Ending/Conclusion of Attack on Titan is spoke through Levi's monologue = the sacrifice of the hearts of the scout regimen was to reach this place - "A WORLD WITHOUT TITAN". This brings the whole AoT story to a FULL CIRCLE. It might not feel satisfying for some but it is a SUITABLE Ending consistent and come back to its origin - "Getting Rid of Titans from this world". Isayama didn't set out to provide a solution for human conflict, what he did was only pointing out through Pixis and Erwin that "human conflict will never end until there's only 1 man remaining." He emphasized it once again through the end credits shots - nor matter what happens, human conflict never ends. Even if the Rumbling was complete, Paradis will still fight a civil war, even if Paradis was wiped out, the human remain will continue fighting".
However to say this ending is MEANINGLESS was a misinterpretation, the whole discussion on the boat with Historia's letter is designed to specifically answer this - the scouts shall continue to fight in a world without titan, and they shall always fight for peace - Armin: "they will want to hear our story, how we used to fight as enemies have now come together to advocate for peace" This can be viewed as another 4th wall break talking about Attack On Titan, a story about conflict, about human cruelty, about war, about racism, despite EVERYTHING that happened, the ending comes down to both sides reconciling, advocating for peace and working for a better future.
NOW the MAIN MESSAGE of Attack On Titan - NEVER GIVE UP HOPE EVEN IF THE WORLD IS CRUEL. Isayama did give a conclusion (conclusion but not solution) about human conflicts but a lot of people missed this. That is the single most important message from the beginning to the end of AoT. In the beginning, it seemed hopeless to fight titans, but scouts regimen never gave up. When they go up against Beast Titan it seemed hopeless but Erwin never give up. Fighting Colossal felt impossible but Armin didn't give up. Just because the fight against titans seem impossible, the characters never gave up. SIMILARLY, Just because the cycle inevitably continues, WE shouldn't give up. Juz becoz everybody ultimately dies in the end, WE should not give up on living. Just because all patients eventually die, Drs should NOT give up on sick patients. Juz becoz hatred and conflict doesn't stop, doesn't mean we should just give up on peace. We HOPE that someday will come a day, where humans can understand each other and peace can be achieved. It's as simple as that.
I can understand if you can say it's not satisfying enough for everyone but there's 1000 Hamlets in 1000 people's eyes. It still doesn't takeaway all the great plot twist and brilliant writing of isayama.
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Something I noticed, war and conflict existed before the titans why would it stop when they didn’t exist?
I really enjoyed your post discussion cuz you two are well understanding the theme and points of this series. Hope your child get recoverd soon.
こんな素晴らしいアニメがあっても人類は未だに巨大な森の中だ。
The meaning of this end for me :The world is cruel, but it's also beautiful.
Even if everything goes bad and the cycle of violence keeps repeating, we must continue to find an exit from the forest for future generations.
As both Pixis and Erwin said: Humans will fight one another until ther is only one last person standing
It's immoral to say Eren had a point, but I have to say... the titan's power is over, the eldians didn't have to keep the sad fate of be eaten to repass this curse. The population became equal to the people in the walls, so even if the war kept going, it was fair enough, it wasn't the whole world against them anymore. Maybe it wasn't even about the eldians anymore, they have repopulated the world, so at least 50% of the world are eldian's descendents, people don't know anymore about your distant parents. Even Mikasa's descendents not necessarily lived in the island for the eternity, after 2000 years they're probably spread around the world. And the war wouldn't stop even if 2 persons was all that left, this is the cursed human nature.
Feel free to correct my grammar, I'm learning english.
He wasn't able to prevent this outcome because he knew he would try and thus prevented himself from preventing it. He is trapped in a time paradox where he wants to stop himself from doing something that technically has already happened. It's fucked, but also brilliant imo
The whole point of the ending was to show that humanity will always be in conflict for one reason or another. It could be religion, diplomatic beliefs, social hierarchy, etc. The show does make vague references to this fact a few times. Pixis and Eren's conversation that if humanity was faced with a mutual enemy, the world would come together to fight for survival. Erwin mentioning that humanity will never stop fighting each other until there is only one person or none left. The Marley security dude talking to Grisha on the wall talking about how peace gets boring and that humanity likes conflict to keep life interesting. The ending is definitely bittersweet.
Seeing Kat talk about how humans always end up fighting each other broke my heart. There's a lot of good people in the world but it only takes a few to cause great suffering to everyone else. Recent world events have been a prime example of that, I try to keep hope but sometimes I think its an unwinnable battle and we will never find peace in our time on this planet. Maybe a happy ending is reserved for fiction only.
Well not even for fiction, especially if that piece of fiction was written by Hajime Isayama lol.
Indeed 💔
I think Eren couldn't wipe Mikasas memory. He just visited her right at that time in the battle. After that she knew he was in the mouth of the titan, which implies that he told her and didn't make her forget.
Eren no podía borrar la memoria de Mikasa porque es una Ackerman
By the way, Mikasa did not have her memory erased, Eren "saw" her right before she killed him (hence why she knew that he was in the mouth of the titan). For everyone else, their meeting with Eren happened before or during the Rumbling.
34 seconds dang
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Idk if i need to catch up woth your reactions aaa I can't remember if I watched yours
Am i ready to cry again
I'm already crying at the online after party a little