No Boxer has achieved more in 23 Fights In the ENTIRE History of Boxing Nobody comes close Usyk is 38 in January Has achieved EVERYTHING Marvin Hagler retired at 32
@@Tom-hl7wc Its why people shouldn't take personal opinions so hard. People have their own criteria and perspectives on what it most impressive to them. Hagler had to turn pro as soon as possible to feed his family, different lives lead to different types of boxers. Appreciate greathess in all its forms
Olympic gold, undefeated and undisputed in two weight divisions, yet there's still work to be done. What work, and how many more accomplishments are recquired?
He only has a handful of heavyweight fights. Holyfield has essentially the same career path but a heck of a more impressive resume. 300 plus amateur 3 rounder fights is admirable but Usyk pro resume is soft .2 tomatoe cans and A past his prime Chisora knocked him around till he ran out of gas. DDD KOed him with a body shot and the ref gave him a gift. He beat AJ the 1st fight and my opinion the 2 was a draw . AJ beat him up pretty good in both fights. I think Fury won that last fight as well. Usyk wouldn’t have won if they fought in Dallas or San Antonio. Those pawing punches wouldn’t count here in Texas in a men’s bout anyway. No disrespect intended to Usyk. He is admirable and deserves the accolades. He needs to clean up the division in my opinion.
@@clancyyoung9994, Usyk beat who mattered bro. No need to linger around. Holyfield was never the man at HW, he was one of them. Usyk was the man at cruiser and he’s the man at HW. I don’t need to see him rematch Daniel. The debate is whether the punch was low, what wasn’t a debate in the fact Daniel got his azz whooped when he got up. Fans expect more from fighters than kids expect from their parents-it’s crazy how it’s never enough for y’all.
British Boxing World need to self introspect. Their biasness on British boxers is madness. At some stage we were made to believe that Fury was the GOAT. Better than prime Ali, M Tyson, Lennox, Klitcho brother etc. We were made to believe that Wilder cant fight but Fury got dropped countless time in that triology to a point there was question of long counts. He got beat by a UFC figher. He refused to give Klitcho a rematch. He was always overated.
I've never bought into Fury. His stock as a fighter had been over exaggerated because he beat wilder, a fighter with a big punch and abysmal ring craft, that Fury used to his advantage.
Not to mention when John McDermott should have beaten him in their first bout and when he bottled it and ran from a fight with David Price. You don't have to consume the narrative. They try and force feed it, you choose whether or not to swallow.
Speak for yourself. Nobody made me believe that. You watch and make your own conclusions. Fury is an excellent boxer but he's never been in the conversation for GOAT.
Punching power doesn't just show up for 4 fights late in your career, and then disappear for your next 3 fights. Fury has been a cheat and drug addict his whole career, but he is to smart to risk pissing off that Saudi Prince by cheating in Saudi. Not to mention he would never get to leave if he got caught cheating there. Fury's career, is a media cover up.
FFS Fury grow up Usyk’s a better boxer a better man and a better person all round. Ever heard the word humble? Usyk has it in spades good old Warrens and co have been blowing up your ass for way too long. 🇺🇦Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 Sasha rules 🥊🇬🇧
Usyk has only had 7 heavyweight fights, but if you're comparing his all time heavyweight ranking against pre 70's guys who predominantly fought men that could be light heavyweights today, then his cruiser weight wins should be considered. Gassiev, Briedis, etc would have been huge heavyweights back then and they would even have been big heavyweights in the Ali/Foreman/Frazier era. I understand there are flaws to this logic, but comparing fighters from different eras is fundamentally flawed anyway.
which is why you need to just look at the resume. You can also take it to the bamk that athletes are always better thanks to everyone getting so much bigger and sport science improving athleticism, all opponents are more professional AND the video your opponents have on you makes it harder to stay on top. There is a reason why there are less statistical anomalies these days like Babe Ruth or Don Bradman.
even if you go post 70's when heavyweights are over 200lbs hes not done as much as ali, foreman, lennox, holyfield in the division yet. Hard to compare eras though. 19-22/23 year old mike tyson would walk through this division like a hot knife through butter in my opinion but we'll never know. Ive got plenty of things wrong in the past.
You know who won’t care about any of this? Oleksandr Usyk, that’s who. If anyone was to ask him where he thinks he stands, in the rankings and history of boxing, he’d say, “I don’t know, it’s not important to me”. He’s just too humble to speak on things like this.
@dwaynesamuels2543 would walk through AJ etc but mike tyson wouldn't beat tyson fury or usyk mate, I'm a big fan of iron Mike, but he isn't knocking usyk or fury out. Which he would need to.
Ali and Holmes and Holyfield were all the same size as Usyk and none of them would give up speed to him like Fury and Joshua did with their slower legs. Don’t get me wrong they are all great fights though and Usyk is a legit bad ass and all time great. Average man was also stronger then so didnt need to weigh 300lbs. Look at average grip strength and testosterone of men in the 60’s and 70’s and compare to today.
I am totally up for him hitting the ring and calling him out but should have done it immediately after Uysks interview. He has a child-like mind in an Adonis body
Usyk has nothing more to prove. He has reached the top in the amateur game and the professional game, in two separate divisions, never shirked a challenge, always fought the best and did it away from home every time.
Crazy talk by Dan Rafel. Usyk is older now than when Lewis retired. He's older now than when Ali lost to Leon Spinks. He's at the age where it will go downhill, so I ask this question: What more can he do? He has done it all already in a much quicker fashion than anyone before him has. Instead of turning pro as an unfinished product and instead of beating 30 tomato cans, he kept fighting as an amateur against elite opposition and won Olympic gold in 2012 as a 25 year old. Then turned pro in 2013 and speed tracked his CW title shot campaign and became a world champion in 2016 ( 28 years old) And only 2 years later he had then beaten the entire CW division including Bellew who had gone up to HW to become undisputed ( 30 years old ) In 2019 he had his first HW fight and in 7 years he has cleaned up the entire divison to become undisputed. Now 38 years old. Like come on... He couldn't have done anything else in a better and faster fashion and there's no time for more fights. This is past the due date of any fighter. He will 100% go down as the GOAT as noone before him has achieved what he has. His next fights shouldn't mean anything even he was to lose ( although I doubt he will lose any time soon )
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 if he was American or British ,he would be called second to god.they never call him greatest even he clean both divisions in shortest time and undefeated. they all find excuses by calling this era rubbish ,but before usyk beat fury everyone was telling that fury was probably even better than ali.now usyk beat fury they stop calling usyk greatest
2:34 i agree with Dan here. Fury didn't look bad. He was active throughout the fight, but Usyk was just more active. He just landed more punches. Simple as that.
top 50 pound for pound ?? LOL why not top 10 ? he's one of the only boxers ever to be undisputed in the top 2 divisions in Boxing , this guy must be on the mushrooms 😳
Yeah I've always rated his opinion a pure neutral I think he's been the most logical as a fury fan but I also think usyk is amazing I scored it 6 -6 a peice if you give fury the 9th but I truly think that was the closest round so if you give it usyk its 7-5, usyk and I backed the points win for fury but that's how I feel about the fight!, I think fury was better in the 2nd n it made usyk not look as relentless
@, Dubois has to get past Parker first. Dubois was an underdog in his last 3 fights. Most thought he’d get sparked out in all 3 fights but instead he sparked all 3 out. We don’t want to underestimate Joe Parker by any means cause he’s upset the odds his last 2 as well. Regardless, I think Usyk beats both, but it isn’t necessary.
I hardly gave Fury a round-competitive but competitive rounds doesn't mean the fight will result in a close scorecard. It was a clean sweep from Usyk. We need mandatory AI scoring! 118-112 was extremely precise. Usyk has a ridiculous high IQ. He's definitely an all Time Great-if not the greatest of all time. If he was British or American, they'd give him all the glory he deserves.
Because the fight was close the cards initially felt wide. Taking it round by round though, Usyk's consistent work to the body and efficient effective offence was nicking close rounds. We can all suffer the bias of looking at a fight overall rather than 12 individual rounds when it comes to how we expect to see scorecards.
You hardly gave Fury a round!!!!! I swear to God, peoples pure Hatrid for Fury had done this. I don’t know how anyone could have Usyk winning that fight my a big margin… as a draw at best… It’s like the media’s BS.. Keep saying it long enough and people will just believe it if hate something. FURY WAS ROBBED.
@@jamiemacdonald6899 I’m gonna have to watch it again like. I genuinely thought it was either a draw or Fury by 1 round. Not a chance in this earth did Usyk win that wide.. Hatred for fury is real. Merry Christmas bro 🎅
Tyson fury is an intelligent guy and knew way before they ever met in the first fight, he somehow knew that usyk was always going to be a very bad match up for him, boxing for the most part is about levels, fury is good but certainly not the level of usyk especially the match up and he tried severally to manoeuvre his way out of usyk's fight but unfortunately came the Saudi with offer he couldn't refused.
I agree with Dan. This is the best we will see of Fury at this time in his Career also Usyk. I scored the fight 116-113 to Usyk but they both fought a chess match but Usyk is like a Grand Master. I thought Fury fought a good fight but as Dan says Usyk just has his number.👍
Agree definitely. I’m not an expert by any stretch, but why did Fury put on so much weight, if he wasn’t gonna use it? He looked gassed at round 6, due to the extra weight, and he only tried leaning on Usyk and making use of the extra timber, in the last 3 rounds, when it became obvious that Furys 1 tactic of walking Usyk onto an uppercut, wasn’t going to work. Usyk is a master boxer, who definitely reminds me of Mohammed Ali, the young version. If he don’t get beat, he will go down as the best boxer in history. Period, as the yanks say
Dan c'mon not even close to a draw... i dont even think 115-113 would be fair... Usyk land more often and better shots.. i agree "Fury did well but usyk did better" watching the fight i had this opinion but compubox numbers only make it worse for Fury
Daniel Dubois entry into the ring was disrespectful. He should have allowed Usyk to have his moment. He should better focus on his fight with Joseph Parker or he will be surprised with an upset.
He advertised he was going to do it pre fight. It was always planned and not unexpected. Parker will relieve him of his belt in February. I'm certain of that.
Dubois just gave Parker fuel for his training, if he needs it. They are scheduled to fight in February, and in spite of this Dubois is calling out Usyk. Get through the Parker fight first. Parker is no slouch and has shown his ability to figure out a way past power punchers who are somewhat on-dimensional. No doubt, Dubois has improved over the years and has heavy hands - but he doesn't come with a ton of variety. Parker has the skillset to negate that if he can be switched on.
I think Daniel was put up to going and challenging Usyk. He wouldn’t have done that on his own. But he does do what he’s asked. He’s a nice guy and I’m certain he didn’t mean for it to come across like it did. He forgot the congratulations first before he asked for the fight!
Great outlook and words of truth, very well said I loved listening to this man's knowledge... Fury and usyk are both amazing boxers and respect to both... very fair opinion ,class act...cheers...
In fairness to DDD, he's not the sharpest tool in the box and it's unlikley it was his idea to storm the ring and confront Usyk. I think we can thank Frank Warren for that one.
AJ's behaviour after their 2nd contest , Furys behaviour before and after both fights , Franks behaviour after both fights and after the Dubois fight and now Dubois post Fury 2; I'd like to apologise to Usyk on behalf of these Englishmen for their appalling behaviour and assure him not all English people are like that!
Fury is to heavy... he can't fight at the pace of Alexander usyk for 12 rounds.. he could beat Deontay Wilder because Wilder is one-dimensional but has power and Tyson Fury could use his size and lean on him and hold him and tire him out...
Top 50? I thought Rafael knew boxing? What a stupid thing to say. Look at his record amateur and professional. Never lost as a pro. Never stopped. These Americans salty af about non American greats. Unreal.
Yes Dubois needs to mature. No need to act disrespectful let’s see how you do against Parker. You never know Fury might be in your face, but I doubt it. Usyk owes Fury nothing I doubt Turkie wants to see a third loss. AJ v Fury I wonder how many excuses Fury will make he’s been avoiding AJ for years 🤠
Boggles the mind that someone can pretend 'it could have been a draw' within some reason. Okay but with LESS exaggeration, you could have scored this a SHUTOUT 12-0 for Usyk and I am not joking about that whatsoever.
Fury wasn't in condition to fight a good fight. Usyk did not take any chances in this fight. I gave Fury rounds 1, 3, 4, and 5 and Usyk won the rest. Fury only landed more punches (11 to 10) in round 4 but I gave him a few rounds for ring generalship. It was a dominant performance by Usyk, but he took no chances and didn't go hard for the KO like he did in their 1st fight.
I'm British and I'm not interested in Fury v AJ ; I'm more interested at this point in Dubois and whether he can put in a better showing in a potential rematch with Usyk plus Itauma and his progress.
I wonder if the quality of the heavyweight or boxing in general has went down when fighters in there LATE 30s are dominating the sport when in past at that age they were considered way past their prime.
Usyk won both fight by a wide margin. Canadian judge was on Franks payroll in the first fight. Dan says close fight, Usyk made Fury look like a fish out of water. Dan's best attributes and what he is good at is eating junk food until his heart is content. This dude is just a writer and gets told what he has to write otherwise no income. His knowledge of what is actually happening during a fight is worse than the worst casual, he is totally clueless, knows his history , that's easy to read about, but what's happening during a fight, he is very ignorant
Everyone's entitled to their opinion and Dan usually talks a lot of sense, but saying Usyk is only 'probably' in the top 50 all time pound for pound isn't a great way to attract more substack subs.
Usyk has nothing more to prove. He's more than proved he's 1 of the Elite greats. In this Era he is the elite great. Fury I like and support as he's our home fighter. He's done great, greater than I'd have ever thought he would. But I think the people out there labelling him as a great some even saying he's 1 of the greatest of all time, these people are delusional. He's a good boxer who's done great but he is no great. Far from it. He's done really well for a slug kind of person who does have a decent ring IQ, is pretty fast and good on kegs for his shape and weight. But nowhere near a great. Not a great level but definitely earned great money. So we should all be happy for him. Super financially secure.
Dan has it about right - Usyk is clearly both a tremendous boxer and super likeable too. But he probably doesnt belong in the top 10 heavyweights of all time, and as for top fighters all time (across weights), there's quite a few legends who were at least as well skilled (some outrageously so), also with historic and dramatic wins on their resume.
Usyk not top 10 heavyweight imo just because Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis Tyson, Ali etc... had 58-60 fights at heavyweight but pound for pound he's right up there with the best. I had him winning by 3 rounds Saturday.
Watching UYSK fight it’s almost like he’s counting how many times Fury is connecting and makes sure that he lands more punches,the loss for Fury is in my opinion down to a few things but the biggest thing is that Fury didnt have any sustained pressure and as a challenger you have to be able to dominate the champ if it goes the distance and I believe the reason why Fury couldn’t sustain and pressure due to his level of fitness! Fury is such a natural boxer that surely his camp should’ve been focused his stamina endurance!
Other good points aside, I think that Parker beats Du bois on current form. He is in great shape has one of the better chins in the division. And just seems to be getting better.
Don't make sense this man said he is okay with 116 -112 then goes on to say he would have been OK with a draw, that is four points .how about fury by one round surely go just say that if you think a bout it a bit more you can be OK with Dyson fury by one point ok
Great take on the fight! I had both Usyk fury fights draws, but it could have gone either way with the sway rounds! To say usyk is a too 10 heavyweight of all time is insane! Please boxing heads do some research of the past! Its madness talk, he’s great yes in our time but in the past its a totally different scenario, had both fights a draw! Also i dont like or a fan of either dude
I was surprised to see Usyk winning any of the first 3 rounds on many peoples cards but equally surprised to see Fury win any of the last 6. I had it by 3 to Usyk , the same as the first fight. Disagree with Dan on Furys gameplan , it was wrong. He didnt learn from the first fight that you can't box a boxer ; Usyks the superior boxer and the only way for Fury to win was to walk forward , be hyper aggressive , use his size and weight and try to stop Usyk within 6 or 7 risking the gas out. He didnt have the balls for it and paid the price.
Since when has remaining 100% professional counted for anything ? I've seen professional people ignored while cheaters get rewarded ! No justice in the corrupted world ...
I had it 8 rounds to 4 for Usyk. Besides one round every round that Fury won was a very close round and I gave some of those to Usyk. I think I was being kind to fury because I first scored it nine rounds to three. No matter what anyone says you can't say that that wouldn't have been a possible score because a few of those so-called Fury rounds were really toss-ups and he was out struck in all of them. I think the first round is the only round where he landed more punches. Also I think that Usyk was the aggressor for the entire fight and that affected who I gave the close rounds to.
The best won but the fight was very close. I think Usyk did enough to nick it because he was busier. It's just funny how they didn't give it to Bivol based on being busy.
Id be more interested in seeing how Usyk goes against the speed of Parker and Ruiz. Also, if he beats those two and Wilder then hes beaten all recent champions. The two American are most likely easy work due to their weaknesses, but Ruiz hand speed and Wilder trying to wing a miracle would be interesting. Parker has the quick footwork and discipline to make Usyk work hard. Bakole and Zhamg would be interesting too. Theg both have the power to sleep him if he makes a mistake, but you do expect him to take them to deep water and drown them.
Don’t nobody care to see him fight no damn Andy Ruiz who should’ve lost to Miller. Most people don’t want to see Wilder fight ever again, let alone for a title. Come on bro, he’s beaten all the top guys, why does he have to fight these lower level guys you’re talking about?
Nobody would want a third fight. Fury told us the first time he would KO Usyk and he couldn’t. Then he told us the 2nd time he’d KO him and he couldn’t again. And we know he can’t out box Usyk so he can’t do that either. If you can’t out box a guy you can GO for a KO if you want a chance to win- but I didn’t see that either- Fury came in huge but DIDNT try for the KO but instead waited to try and ‘surprise’ Usyk with a big right hand, early on, but that’s all. To me that’s not trying to KO someone. The only thing left would be to actually go for it until you’ve nothing left inside 4 rounds. But he didn’t try that either. Oh and IF he fights AJ (which I doubt personally) I think he gets ko’d by AJ.
Fury and Usyk bouts are now in the history books. Thank God for that. Usyk definitely won a relatively close fight. I had it 117-114 Usyk. I thought since Fury was 10-12 pounds heavier for the rematch, he would come out more aggressive and put Usyk on his backfoot. That did not happen. Fury's best third of the fight was actually the last four rounds even though he lost three of them. He let his hands go, threw nearly 48 punches per round and landed over 15 per round. He should not have waited to fight an aggressive fight till then. While he won three out of the first four rounds, I thought he was already in trouble as he did not inflict any damage to Usyk. Fury did not do anything in those first rounds or even the next four rounds to slow Usyk down for the final four rounds. In the first four rounds, he threw 38 punches per round and landed less than 10 per round. In the next four rounds, he only marginally increased his level to 41 punches per round thrown and landing just 11 punches per round. I tried my level best to be optimistic about Sugar Hill. However I have to write that if Peter Fury was the coach, Tyson Fury would have been much more aggressive from the start of fighting in throwing and landing a variety of select punches. Prior to the fight, Peter Fury has even stated that Tyson Fury has to immediately pressure Usyk from the first bell, putting Usyk constantly on the backfoot, and then finally cornering Usyk by cutting off the ring. Peter Fury has always stated that a fighter should never focus solely on winning rounds. He always has stated that a fighter instead should do the best he/she can do under the given circumstances to give the best performance for that night. For example, it is common knowledge Fury flopped when he fell to the floor for the 2nd time in the Wilder trilogy. He learned that from Peter Fury only. If Fury would have tried to win that 4th round, Wilder would have knocked him out. The point is even if Fury would have lost the early rounds to Usyk by following Peter Fury's tactics, he would have inflicted enough damage then to slow down Usyk later, especially in the Championship rounds. By allowing Usyk time and space in the early and even middle rounds, he allowed Usyk to takeover the last third of the fight. That would not have happened if Peter Fury was the coach. Let's not cry over spilled milk now. Fury came up short. While I was hopeful about his trainer, I have stated for the longest time that Sugar Hill is all wrong for Tyson Fury. Fury lacked the specific footwork, tactics, technique, and skillset needed to defeat someone like Usyk. No one will ever outbox Usyk. However no one should ever be too simplistic in fighting Usyk either. Someone like Fury still needs a mildly diverse strategy in order to defeat this southpaw. More importantly, Fury showed no aggressiveness in the early and mid-rounds. He should have actively pursued Usyk and he did not. He should have utilized a limited variety of long range jabbing and he did not. He should have constantly come forward with a tight guard with gloves at his face and he did not. He backfooted too often and he also leaned back too often. All that did cost him dearly. In all due fairness to Hill, Hill did tell Fury not to do that and yet Fury did. Again when Fury was not able to put Usyk on his backfoot, these things do happen. The only but most effective way to beat Usyk is to fight Usyk the way Chisora did. Chisora constantly stepped laterally or diagonally before he lunged forward. Chisora never stood still. While Chisora lacked the speed, reach, and height to defeat Usyk, he had the right plan. If AJ, DD, or TF implemented Chisora's strategy, either would have defeated Usyk.
Where was that one punch knockout power the extra weight gave him in his 4 fights before Ngannu? Any of you people starting to realize it wasnt the weight yet? He damn sure didnt have that power fighting Usyk last weekend. An without cheating he never did.
Usyk may be a bit arrogant one day too, and he too shall be humbled, happens to them all, my best friend was a boxer, arrogant, violent, abusive and he too has been brought down to earth!
Parker went life and death with zhang and couldn't knock Wilder out.His upward curve has been made out to be more than it actually is.DDD will knock Parker out within 7 rds.100% Warren or Turkish put him up to confronting Usyk,so quickly.
Dan said exactly the same things I said. DDD just showed how immature he is. I just hope DDD doesn't turn into an arrogant Ahole if he keeps on winning.
Man I was wrong so wrong. I bet on fury. I had it 115 113. But could a easily been 116 112. Fury just couldn't do it I thought he was better the first time
Fury has obviously got a damaged right elbow, so he can not open up for a knockout anymore. He clearly threw very few combinations with venom and very few heavy rear hand shots. Therefore he's done!
Oh Dan Usyk is far better than you re giving him credit for. He just wins at every level always . Uysk is the kind of guy who wins away from home always . Few American fighters went abroad to defend titles Ali yes Tyson yes but not like Uysk . The money is in the states or it used to be but thats over now . Being a road warrior is what it takes these days
Agree. Usyk is best boxer in this era. To compare boxers from different eras is inpossible. But comparing ways to get title match and to difend it, resistance wich follows after, quality and number of oponents is ridiculuos. And more... Usyk is unbelieveble boxer, just now best of the best. But call him greates of all time...!?!?!? No. He, himself said very smartly, time will show.
this dude said top 50 P4p lol. need to ask himself uysk did go into everyones backyard and collected each world title i dont think he ever collected a vacated belt it was always against a champion. Uysk did that at cruiserwight and heavy weight so far collected each belt from each champion i would love to see him ride off into the sunset now. Im not to sure but i thought i read that he is to make around 100M in the fury rematch which is a boat load of money.
Yes, I'd put Uzyk in no. 15 maybe, anything above is ludicrous, he has not face nobody yet, just a bunch of mediocre heavyweights and cruiser weights, yeah not his fault, it is all there is nowadays but that's the way it is.
It’s impossible to come up with 115-113. At least if you have ever seen a boxing fight before. To be honest Usyk probably won every rond. He maybe lost round 5.
No Boxer has achieved more in 23 Fights
In the ENTIRE History of Boxing
Nobody comes close
Usyk is 38 in January
Has achieved EVERYTHING
Marvin Hagler retired at 32
It took Hagler till his 50th fight before they gave him a title shot...Usyk is 37 and only had 23 fights his whole professional career...
@@Tommy2013-b7ryeah because of the extensive amateur record he came to the pros with. He basically started the pros at the top.
@@Tom-hl7wc Its why people shouldn't take personal opinions so hard. People have their own criteria and perspectives on what it most impressive to them. Hagler had to turn pro as soon as possible to feed his family, different lives lead to different types of boxers. Appreciate greathess in all its forms
Olympic gold, undefeated and undisputed in two weight divisions, yet there's still work to be done. What work, and how many more accomplishments are recquired?
Exactly! Absolutely nothing to prove to anyone - His record will age like fine wine
He only has a handful of heavyweight fights. Holyfield has essentially the same career path but a heck of a more impressive resume. 300 plus amateur 3 rounder fights is admirable but Usyk pro resume is soft .2 tomatoe cans and A past his prime Chisora knocked him around till he ran out of gas. DDD KOed him with a body shot and the ref gave him a gift. He beat AJ the 1st fight and my opinion the 2 was a draw . AJ beat him up pretty good in both fights. I think Fury won that last fight as well. Usyk wouldn’t have won if they fought in Dallas or San Antonio. Those pawing punches wouldn’t count here in Texas in a men’s bout anyway. No disrespect intended to Usyk. He is admirable and deserves the accolades. He needs to clean up the division in my opinion.
@@clancyyoung9994, Usyk beat who mattered bro. No need to linger around. Holyfield was never the man at HW, he was one of them. Usyk was the man at cruiser and he’s the man at HW. I don’t need to see him rematch Daniel. The debate is whether the punch was low, what wasn’t a debate in the fact Daniel got his azz whooped when he got up. Fans expect more from fighters than kids expect from their parents-it’s crazy how it’s never enough for y’all.
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@@peteg9011, he’s had one good fight against a carefully matched smaller HW bruh, those eggs need more bacon.
British Boxing World need to self introspect. Their biasness on British boxers is madness. At some stage we were made to believe that Fury was the GOAT. Better than prime Ali, M Tyson, Lennox, Klitcho brother etc. We were made to believe that Wilder cant fight but Fury got dropped countless time in that triology to a point there was question of long counts. He got beat by a UFC figher. He refused to give Klitcho a rematch. He was always overated.
We were told by the mtk/talk sport cabal this. But the vast majority of British fight fans did not buy it.
I've never bought into Fury. His stock as a fighter had been over exaggerated because he beat wilder, a fighter with a big punch and abysmal ring craft, that Fury used to his advantage.
Not to mention when John McDermott should have beaten him in their first bout and when he bottled it and ran from a fight with David Price.
You don't have to consume the narrative. They try and force feed it, you choose whether or not to swallow.
Speak for yourself. Nobody made me believe that. You watch and make your own conclusions. Fury is an excellent boxer but he's never been in the conversation for GOAT.
Punching power doesn't just show up for 4 fights late in your career, and then disappear for your next 3 fights. Fury has been a cheat and drug addict his whole career, but he is to smart to risk pissing off that Saudi Prince by cheating in Saudi. Not to mention he would never get to leave if he got caught cheating there. Fury's career, is a media cover up.
Nothing to prove Usyk you beat them all retire undefeated keep you legacy ❤👊🏽
He's not in it for legacy, he fights to inspire and loves to compete.
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Why risk it his 37 going on 38
I agree with Dan re: the way DuBois acted. Why was he allowed in the ring? Where was security? Usyk is a gem for rolling with it.
FFS Fury grow up Usyk’s a better boxer a better man and a better person all round. Ever heard the word humble? Usyk has it in spades good old Warrens and co have been blowing up your ass for way too long. 🇺🇦Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 Sasha rules 🥊🇬🇧
Brick top let Dubois in the ring, to upstage Usyk's win, and because he's also a greedy belly.
Usyk seemed a little bothered by it. Hope he KOs him again
I recall Ali (then Clay) raising a ruckus in the ring after Liston -Patterson 2 in 1963. But I can't recall how many minutes he waited
Usyk has only had 7 heavyweight fights, but if you're comparing his all time heavyweight ranking against pre 70's guys who predominantly fought men that could be light heavyweights today, then his cruiser weight wins should be considered. Gassiev, Briedis, etc would have been huge heavyweights back then and they would even have been big heavyweights in the Ali/Foreman/Frazier era. I understand there are flaws to this logic, but comparing fighters from different eras is fundamentally flawed anyway.
which is why you need to just look at the resume. You can also take it to the bamk that athletes are always better thanks to everyone getting so much bigger and sport science improving athleticism, all opponents are more professional AND the video your opponents have on you makes it harder to stay on top.
There is a reason why there are less statistical anomalies these days like Babe Ruth or Don Bradman.
even if you go post 70's when heavyweights are over 200lbs hes not done as much as ali, foreman, lennox, holyfield in the division yet. Hard to compare eras though. 19-22/23 year old mike tyson would walk through this division like a hot knife through butter in my opinion but we'll never know. Ive got plenty of things wrong in the past.
You know who won’t care about any of this? Oleksandr Usyk, that’s who. If anyone was to ask him where he thinks he stands, in the rankings and history of boxing, he’d say, “I don’t know, it’s not important to me”. He’s just too humble to speak on things like this.
@dwaynesamuels2543 would walk through AJ etc but mike tyson wouldn't beat tyson fury or usyk mate, I'm a big fan of iron Mike, but he isn't knocking usyk or fury out. Which he would need to.
Ali and Holmes and Holyfield were all the same size as Usyk and none of them would give up speed to him like Fury and Joshua did with their slower legs. Don’t get me wrong they are all great fights though and Usyk is a legit bad ass and all time great. Average man was also stronger then so didnt need to weigh 300lbs. Look at average grip strength and testosterone of men in the 60’s and 70’s and compare to today.
I wouldn't be to hard on Dubois he has a clunky public personality and clearly put up to it
End of the day, Dubois is a grown man AND heavyweight champion. No-one could've made him do it, he chose to.
I am totally up for him hitting the ring and calling him out but should have done it immediately after Uysks interview. He has a child-like mind in an Adonis body
reserved quiet characters don't just jump in to the the ring by their own accord that why it felt inauthentic to everybody involved.
@@DX_2_words_4_ya He’s a bit of a lump
Dubois is on the Spectrum
He’s on the back of the bus
Licking the window
Usyk has nothing more to prove.
He has reached the top in the amateur game and the professional game, in two separate divisions, never shirked a challenge, always fought the best and did it away from home every time.
Crazy talk by Dan Rafel. Usyk is older now than when Lewis retired. He's older now than when Ali lost to Leon Spinks. He's at the age where it will go downhill, so I ask this question: What more can he do? He has done it all already in a much quicker fashion than anyone before him has. Instead of turning pro as an unfinished product and instead of beating 30 tomato cans, he kept fighting as an amateur against elite opposition and won Olympic gold in 2012 as a 25 year old. Then turned pro in 2013 and speed tracked his CW title shot campaign and became a world champion in 2016 ( 28 years old) And only 2 years later he had then beaten the entire CW division including Bellew who had gone up to HW to become undisputed ( 30 years old ) In 2019 he had his first HW fight and in 7 years he has cleaned up the entire divison to become undisputed. Now 38 years old. Like come on... He couldn't have done anything else in a better and faster fashion and there's no time for more fights. This is past the due date of any fighter. He will 100% go down as the GOAT as noone before him has achieved what he has. His next fights shouldn't mean anything even he was to lose ( although I doubt he will lose any time soon )
exactly
He still has to defend the titles.
@@vernonholliday8632 He already has against AJ and Fury and Dubois. He's 38 ffs.
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 if he was American or British ,he would be called second to god.they never call him greatest even he clean both divisions in shortest time and undefeated. they all find excuses by calling this era rubbish ,but before usyk beat fury everyone was telling that fury was probably even better than ali.now usyk beat fury they stop calling usyk greatest
@@tadasblinda8708 Agree! The hypocrisy is unreal.
2:34 i agree with Dan here. Fury didn't look bad. He was active throughout the fight, but Usyk was just more active. He just landed more punches. Simple as that.
BRUTALLY HONEST .......everyone is so BRUTALL
Such a stupid headline
top 50 pound for pound ?? LOL why not top 10 ? he's one of the only boxers ever to be undisputed in the top 2 divisions in Boxing , this guy must be on the mushrooms 😳
Good to have Dan Raffael on, amazed more channels don’t have him on
Yeah I've always rated his opinion a pure neutral I think he's been the most logical as a fury fan but I also think usyk is amazing I scored it 6 -6 a peice if you give fury the 9th but I truly think that was the closest round so if you give it usyk its 7-5, usyk and I backed the points win for fury but that's how I feel about the fight!, I think fury was better in the 2nd n it made usyk not look as relentless
I hope Usyk retires he doesn’t owe boxing anything else. If he whoops every top 10 HW, people will just say it was a weak era.
I agree, if he keeps fighting eventually he will lose. Usyk is not young, it would be a mistake to fight Dubois again.
@, Dubois has to get past Parker first. Dubois was an underdog in his last 3 fights. Most thought he’d get sparked out in all 3 fights but instead he sparked all 3 out. We don’t want to underestimate Joe Parker by any means cause he’s upset the odds his last 2 as well. Regardless, I think Usyk beats both, but it isn’t necessary.
I hardly gave Fury a round-competitive but competitive rounds doesn't mean the fight will result in a close scorecard. It was a clean sweep from Usyk. We need mandatory AI scoring! 118-112 was extremely precise. Usyk has a ridiculous high IQ. He's definitely an all Time Great-if not the greatest of all time. If he was British or American, they'd give him all the glory he deserves.
Because the fight was close the cards initially felt wide. Taking it round by round though, Usyk's consistent work to the body and efficient effective offence was nicking close rounds. We can all suffer the bias of looking at a fight overall rather than 12 individual rounds when it comes to how we expect to see scorecards.
You hardly gave Fury a round!!!!! I swear to God, peoples pure Hatrid for Fury had done this. I don’t know how anyone could have Usyk winning that fight my a big margin… as a draw at best… It’s like the media’s BS.. Keep saying it long enough and people will just believe it if hate something. FURY WAS ROBBED.
@James-th9nm you're tripping bud.
@@jamiemacdonald6899 I’m gonna have to watch it again like. I genuinely thought it was either a draw or Fury by 1 round. Not a chance in this earth did Usyk win that wide.. Hatred for fury is real. Merry Christmas bro 🎅
@@James-th9nm are you tryin to tell AI was hating on fury to ?
Tyson fury is an intelligent guy and knew way before they ever met in the first fight, he somehow knew that usyk was always going to be a very bad match up for him, boxing for the most part is about levels, fury is good but certainly not the level of usyk especially the match up and he tried severally to manoeuvre his way out of usyk's fight but unfortunately came the Saudi with offer he couldn't refused.
I agree with Dan. This is the best we will see of Fury at this time in his Career also Usyk. I scored the fight 116-113 to Usyk but they both fought a chess match but Usyk is like a Grand Master. I thought Fury fought a good fight but as Dan says Usyk just has his number.👍
Agree definitely. I’m not an expert by any stretch, but why did Fury put on so much weight, if he wasn’t gonna use it? He looked gassed at round 6, due to the extra weight, and he only tried leaning on Usyk and making use of the extra timber, in the last 3 rounds, when it became obvious that Furys 1 tactic of walking Usyk onto an uppercut, wasn’t going to work.
Usyk is a master boxer, who definitely reminds me of Mohammed Ali, the young version. If he don’t get beat, he will go down as the best boxer in history. Period, as the yanks say
Dan c'mon not even close to a draw... i dont even think 115-113 would be fair... Usyk land more often and better shots.. i agree "Fury did well but usyk did better"
watching the fight i had this opinion but compubox numbers only make it worse for Fury
spot on analyst of the fight 👏 agree 100%
Dan's right, you can't judge a boxer's career until it's over.
Daniel Dubois entry into the ring was disrespectful. He should have allowed Usyk to have his moment. He should better focus on his fight with Joseph Parker or he will be surprised with an upset.
No it wasn't he wants his revenge simple as that
He advertised he was going to do it pre fight. It was always planned and not unexpected. Parker will relieve him of his belt in February. I'm certain of that.
@@Gixer-q3utotal agree, This is a combat sport, and this how fight should be made.
@@doncuadrado8489You will see, it ain't easy as you think, Dubois ain't looking past Parker.
He was doing what frank told him to do it that’s how Dubois brain works he does what he’s told
Dubois just gave Parker fuel for his training, if he needs it. They are scheduled to fight in February, and in spite of this Dubois is calling out Usyk. Get through the Parker fight first. Parker is no slouch and has shown his ability to figure out a way past power punchers who are somewhat on-dimensional. No doubt, Dubois has improved over the years and has heavy hands - but he doesn't come with a ton of variety. Parker has the skillset to negate that if he can be switched on.
Usyk is classy and Fury is trashy. Fury lost, Period!
Good reasoned interview
That was a low blow in the usyk dubois fight. It was clearly on the trunk beltline and usyks trunks were just below the navel.
It was a boring fight however!‼Fury looked slow as dirt & Usyk just did what he needed to decision the fight‼
I think Daniel was put up to going and challenging Usyk. He wouldn’t have done that on his own. But he does do what he’s asked. He’s a nice guy and I’m certain he didn’t mean for it to come across like it did. He forgot the congratulations first before he asked for the fight!
Saw it again today, it was 116-112 in my opinion.
Great outlook and words of truth, very well said I loved listening to this man's knowledge... Fury and usyk are both amazing boxers and respect to both... very fair opinion ,class act...cheers...
Love Dan, an encyclopedia of boxing.
In fairness to DDD, he's not the sharpest tool in the box and it's unlikley it was his idea to storm the ring and confront Usyk. I think we can thank Frank Warren for that one.
I remember those cabinets.
AJ's behaviour after their 2nd contest , Furys behaviour before and after both fights , Franks behaviour after both fights and after the Dubois fight and now Dubois post Fury 2; I'd like to apologise to Usyk on behalf of these Englishmen for their appalling behaviour and assure him not all English people are like that!
Professional and adequate analysis.
Fury is to heavy... he can't fight at the pace of Alexander usyk for 12 rounds.. he could beat Deontay Wilder because Wilder is one-dimensional but has power and Tyson Fury could use his size and lean on him and hold him and tire him out...
Top 50? I thought Rafael knew boxing? What a stupid thing to say. Look at his record amateur and professional. Never lost as a pro. Never stopped. These Americans salty af about non American greats. Unreal.
Yes Dubois needs to mature. No need to act disrespectful let’s see how you do against Parker. You never know Fury might be in your face, but I doubt it. Usyk owes Fury nothing I doubt Turkie wants to see a third loss. AJ v Fury I wonder how many excuses Fury will make he’s been avoiding AJ for years 🤠
Boggles the mind that someone can pretend 'it could have been a draw' within some reason.
Okay but with LESS exaggeration, you could have scored this a SHUTOUT 12-0 for Usyk and I am not joking about that whatsoever.
Fury wasn't in condition to fight a good fight. Usyk did not take any chances in this fight. I gave Fury rounds 1, 3, 4, and 5 and Usyk won the rest. Fury only landed more punches (11 to 10) in round 4 but I gave him a few rounds for ring generalship. It was a dominant performance by Usyk, but he took no chances and didn't go hard for the KO like he did in their 1st fight.
Ridiculous to say he’s not top ten fighter of all time p4p let alone heavyweight
I'm British and I'm not interested in Fury v AJ ; I'm more interested at this point in Dubois and whether he can put in a better showing in a potential rematch with Usyk plus Itauma and his progress.
Poor Tyson Fury his words "pain, hurt, and damage" fired back at him. 70% 30% that's how "don't be afraid, I will not leave you alone" !
I wonder if the quality of the heavyweight or boxing in general has went down when fighters in there LATE 30s are dominating the sport when in past at that age they were considered way past their prime.
Usyk won both fight by a wide margin. Canadian judge was on Franks payroll in the first fight. Dan says close fight, Usyk made Fury look like a fish out of water. Dan's best attributes and what he is good at is eating junk food until his heart is content. This dude is just a writer and gets told what he has to write otherwise no income. His knowledge of what is actually happening during a fight is worse than the worst casual, he is totally clueless, knows his history , that's easy to read about, but what's happening during a fight, he is very ignorant
Everyone's entitled to their opinion and Dan usually talks a lot of sense, but saying Usyk is only 'probably' in the top 50 all time pound for pound isn't a great way to attract more substack subs.
Usyk has nothing more to prove. He's more than proved he's 1 of the Elite greats. In this Era he is the elite great.
Fury I like and support as he's our home fighter. He's done great, greater than I'd have ever thought he would. But I think the people out there labelling him as a great some even saying he's 1 of the greatest of all time, these people are delusional. He's a good boxer who's done great but he is no great.
Far from it. He's done really well for a slug kind of person who does have a decent ring IQ, is pretty fast and good on kegs for his shape and weight. But nowhere near a great.
Not a great level but definitely earned great money. So we should all be happy for him. Super financially secure.
Dan has it about right - Usyk is clearly both a tremendous boxer and super likeable too. But he probably doesnt belong in the top 10 heavyweights of all time, and as for top fighters all time (across weights), there's quite a few legends who were at least as well skilled (some outrageously so), also with historic and dramatic wins on their resume.
You cannot blame Daniel for what he did. He is emotionally about 14 years old. His handlers need to be brought to task.
Dan is a legend.
Usyk not top 10 heavyweight imo just because Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis Tyson, Ali etc... had 58-60 fights at heavyweight but pound for pound he's right up there with the best. I had him winning by 3 rounds Saturday.
Great analysis
THEY CREATE A LEVEL ABOVE UNDISPUTED, AND ONLY USYK SHOULD BE CROWNED THERE
Watching UYSK fight it’s almost like he’s counting how many times Fury is connecting and makes sure that he lands more punches,the loss for Fury is in my opinion down to a few things but the biggest thing is that Fury didnt have any sustained pressure and as a challenger you have to be able to dominate the champ if it goes the distance and I believe the reason why Fury couldn’t sustain and pressure due to his level of fitness! Fury is such a natural boxer that surely his camp should’ve been focused his stamina endurance!
Other good points aside, I think that Parker beats Du bois on current form. He is in great shape has one of the better chins in the division. And just seems to be getting better.
Don't make sense this man said he is okay with 116 -112 then goes on to say he would have been OK with a draw, that is four points .how about fury by one round surely go just say that if you think a bout it a bit more you can be OK with Dyson fury by one point ok
Great take on the fight! I had both Usyk fury fights draws, but it could have gone either way with the sway rounds! To say usyk is a too 10 heavyweight of all time is insane! Please boxing heads do some research of the past! Its madness talk, he’s great yes in our time but in the past its a totally different scenario, had both fights a draw! Also i dont like or a fan of either dude
Great show
I was surprised to see Usyk winning any of the first 3 rounds on many peoples cards but equally surprised to see Fury win any of the last 6. I had it by 3 to Usyk , the same as the first fight.
Disagree with Dan on Furys gameplan , it was wrong. He didnt learn from the first fight that you can't box a boxer ; Usyks the superior boxer and the only way for Fury to win was to walk forward , be hyper aggressive , use his size and weight and try to stop Usyk within 6 or 7 risking the gas out. He didnt have the balls for it and paid the price.
Love this guy speaks the truth and isn't not going with the sheep mentality that's going on at the moment
Since when has remaining 100% professional counted for anything ? I've seen professional people ignored while cheaters get rewarded ! No justice in the corrupted world ...
He talks a lot of rational sense this guy
I had it 8 rounds to 4 for Usyk. Besides one round every round that Fury won was a very close round and I gave some of those to Usyk. I think I was being kind to fury because I first scored it nine rounds to three. No matter what anyone says you can't say that that wouldn't have been a possible score because a few of those so-called Fury rounds were really toss-ups and he was out struck in all of them. I think the first round is the only round where he landed more punches. Also I think that Usyk was the aggressor for the entire fight and that affected who I gave the close rounds to.
Fury v Joshua will top the bill in the 5v5 in may
You know what it looks like to me fury is setting in place for usyk to take number 3
The best won but the fight was very close. I think Usyk did enough to nick it because he was busier. It's just funny how they didn't give it to Bivol based on being busy.
Id be more interested in seeing how Usyk goes against the speed of Parker and Ruiz. Also, if he beats those two and Wilder then hes beaten all recent champions. The two American are most likely easy work due to their weaknesses, but Ruiz hand speed and Wilder trying to wing a miracle would be interesting. Parker has the quick footwork and discipline to make Usyk work hard.
Bakole and Zhamg would be interesting too. Theg both have the power to sleep him if he makes a mistake, but you do expect him to take them to deep water and drown them.
Don’t nobody care to see him fight no damn Andy Ruiz who should’ve lost to Miller. Most people don’t want to see Wilder fight ever again, let alone for a title. Come on bro, he’s beaten all the top guys, why does he have to fight these lower level guys you’re talking about?
Daniel Dubois sold the fight. Rafael obviously ignores the last 50 years of pro boxing.
Nobody would want a third fight. Fury told us the first time he would KO Usyk and he couldn’t. Then he told us the 2nd time he’d KO him and he couldn’t again. And we know he can’t out box Usyk so he can’t do that either. If you can’t out box a guy you can GO for a KO if you want a chance to win- but I didn’t see that either- Fury came in huge but DIDNT try for the KO but instead waited to try and ‘surprise’ Usyk with a big right hand, early on, but that’s all. To me that’s not trying to KO someone. The only thing left would be to actually go for it until you’ve nothing left inside 4 rounds. But he didn’t try that either. Oh and IF he fights AJ (which I doubt personally) I think he gets ko’d by AJ.
6:40 Totally agree with Dan on Dubois ; very unprofessional and childish....he's a bit of an idiot to be honest.
Fury and Usyk bouts are now in the history books. Thank God for that. Usyk definitely won a relatively close fight. I had it 117-114 Usyk.
I thought since Fury was 10-12 pounds heavier for the rematch, he would come out more aggressive and put Usyk on his backfoot. That did not happen. Fury's best third of the fight was actually the last four rounds even though he lost three of them. He let his hands go, threw nearly 48 punches per round and landed over 15 per round. He should not have waited to fight an aggressive fight till then.
While he won three out of the first four rounds, I thought he was already in trouble as he did not inflict any damage to Usyk. Fury did not do anything in those first rounds or even the next four rounds to slow Usyk down for the final four rounds. In the first four rounds, he threw 38 punches per round and landed less than 10 per round. In the next four rounds, he only marginally increased his level to 41 punches per round thrown and landing just 11 punches per round.
I tried my level best to be optimistic about Sugar Hill. However I have to write that if Peter Fury was the coach, Tyson Fury would have been much more aggressive from the start of fighting in throwing and landing a variety of select punches. Prior to the fight, Peter Fury has even stated that Tyson Fury has to immediately pressure Usyk from the first bell, putting Usyk constantly on the backfoot, and then finally cornering Usyk by cutting off the ring.
Peter Fury has always stated that a fighter should never focus solely on winning rounds. He always has stated that a fighter instead should do the best he/she can do under the given circumstances to give the best performance for that night. For example, it is common knowledge Fury flopped when he fell to the floor for the 2nd time in the Wilder trilogy. He learned that from Peter Fury only. If Fury would have tried to win that 4th round, Wilder would have knocked him out.
The point is even if Fury would have lost the early rounds to Usyk by following Peter Fury's tactics, he would have inflicted enough damage then to slow down Usyk later, especially in the Championship rounds. By allowing Usyk time and space in the early and even middle rounds, he allowed Usyk to takeover the last third of the fight. That would not have happened if Peter Fury was the coach. Let's not cry over spilled milk now.
Fury came up short. While I was hopeful about his trainer, I have stated for the longest time that Sugar Hill is all wrong for Tyson Fury. Fury lacked the specific footwork, tactics, technique, and skillset needed to defeat someone like Usyk. No one will ever outbox Usyk. However no one should ever be too simplistic in fighting Usyk either. Someone like Fury still needs a mildly diverse strategy in order to defeat this southpaw. More importantly, Fury showed no aggressiveness in the early and mid-rounds. He should have actively pursued Usyk and he did not. He should have utilized a limited variety of long range jabbing and he did not.
He should have constantly come forward with a tight guard with gloves at his face and he did not. He backfooted too often and he also leaned back too often. All that did cost him dearly.
In all due fairness to Hill, Hill did tell Fury not to do that and yet Fury did. Again when Fury was not able to put Usyk on his backfoot, these things do happen.
The only but most effective way to beat Usyk is to fight Usyk the way Chisora did. Chisora constantly stepped laterally or diagonally before he lunged forward. Chisora never stood still. While Chisora lacked the speed, reach, and height to defeat Usyk, he had the right plan. If AJ, DD, or TF implemented Chisora's strategy, either would have defeated Usyk.
You forgetting Peter Fury had him on his bike and boar meat.
As I said before.....fury's performance would have beat most in the division
Parker beats Dubois then fights Usyk. Usyk wins again then retires. My prediction
Where was that one punch knockout power the extra weight gave him in his 4 fights before Ngannu? Any of you people starting to realize it wasnt the weight yet? He damn sure didnt have that power fighting Usyk last weekend. An without cheating he never did.
Usyk plays to win. No free lunch
Usyk may be a bit arrogant one day too, and he too shall be humbled, happens to them all, my best friend was a boxer, arrogant, violent, abusive and he too has been brought down to earth!
Parker went life and death with zhang and couldn't knock Wilder out.His upward curve has been made out to be more than it actually is.DDD will knock Parker out within 7 rds.100% Warren or Turkish put him up to confronting Usyk,so quickly.
Dan said exactly the same things I said.
DDD just showed how immature he is.
I just hope DDD doesn't turn into an arrogant Ahole if he keeps on winning.
Dan Raffael is totally correct in he’s synopsis of the fight and what Daniel Duboi done was cringey ,,,I thought fury lost by 2 rounds
Top 50 p4p?? Hes beating guys half a foot taller than him and 50-60 lbs heavier.
its because dubois is fully on the spectrum and it shows everytime dubois opens his mouth led by the hand of BRICKTOP
Man I was wrong so wrong. I bet on fury. I had it 115 113. But could a easily been 116 112. Fury just couldn't do it I thought he was better the first time
Fury has obviously got a damaged right elbow, so he can not open up for a knockout anymore. He clearly threw very few combinations with venom and very few heavy rear hand shots. Therefore he's done!
If some one outjabs the other person 2:1 and there is no knock down a Draw would be a robbery…
Agree, it was very close. But even a draw is not enough to get take the belts from Usyk.
Fury at close to 300lbs was too slow to land any clean shots and was destroyed by the faster better ring technician Usyk. 🥊
Daniel tripping, I could easily see him getting outboxed by Parker.
Fight the winner of Dubois vs Parker and then retire undisputed.
Let's not forget he won against 4 stones heavier fighter. It's like Bum beating beterbiev
Oh Dan Usyk is far better than you re giving him credit for. He just wins at every level always . Uysk is the kind of guy who wins away from home always . Few American fighters went abroad to defend titles Ali yes Tyson yes but not like Uysk . The money is in the states or it used to be but thats over now . Being a road warrior is what it takes these days
Agree. Usyk is best boxer in this era. To compare boxers from different eras is inpossible. But comparing ways to get title match and to difend it, resistance wich follows after, quality and number of oponents is ridiculuos. And more...
Usyk is unbelieveble boxer, just now best of the best. But call him greates of all time...!?!?!? No. He, himself said very smartly, time will show.
Hes a top 15 lbs per lbs fighter!!! Dan shouldn’t have vote!
So True... DD acted like a selfish child.😮
this dude said top 50 P4p lol.
need to ask himself uysk did go into everyones backyard and collected each world title i dont think he ever collected a vacated belt it was always against a champion.
Uysk did that at cruiserwight and heavy weight so far collected each belt from each champion i would love to see him ride off into the sunset now.
Im not to sure but i thought i read that he is to make around 100M in the fury rematch which is a boat load of money.
16:00 LOL- who are the 10-20 heavyweights ahead of usyk on the all time list?? Dan Rafael is not great at his job.
Yes, I'd put Uzyk in no. 15 maybe, anything above is ludicrous, he has not face nobody yet, just a bunch of mediocre heavyweights and cruiser weights, yeah not his fault, it is all there is nowadays but that's the way it is.
I think Parker will beat dubois and ill bet it wont be close. And a parker usyk fight will be closer than dubois.
If usyk was American this guy would be wearing his t shirt.
The only thing left to do is beat Joe Calzaghe twice 😄
It’s impossible to come up with 115-113. At least if you have ever seen a boxing fight before. To be honest Usyk probably won every rond. He maybe lost round 5.
Ridiculous analysis .. It was nowhere near a draw , fury was made to miss lots if his shots , He was schooled once again by a master tactician