The Second Jobs of WNBA All-Stars: Seimone Augustus in Russia
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- While the max salary in the WNBA tops out just under $110,000 a year, many female basketball stars spend their offseasons plying their trade overseas for double or triple that amount. Russia has become the top destination for talent, with billionaire owners willing to spend in order to build a winning franchise.
For players like Seimone Augustus, this adds up to a career with no offseason, spent trying to capitalize on a profession with an extremely limited shelf life. We traveled to Kursk, Russia to meet with the five-time WNBA All-Star as she wrapped up her season with Dynamo Kursk, just a few days before the start of her season with the Minnesota Lynx.
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@SA SPURS I dont need u telling me nothing!
@SA SPURS I'll tell your ass that 2+2=4.
To see and understand they need views too
Ohhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo! 😂
That's tuff.....
"Do I play for pride and joy here where I was born, or do I go overseas and get this money?"
You mean the same decision every European kid had to make when thinking about playing in the NBA?
Not as much as the nba so 🤷🏿♂️
You know it’s different lmao
@@34uzz78 howso
NBA pays ways more then Euro Leagues....Israel, Turkey and Italy pay decent but even that is 50-75k a month
it's different because any of the European men who can make it to the NBA in the first place would already be making millions in Europe. And they could probably be the stars in Europe and make tons in sponsorship, which is probably a much better life than riding the bench in the NBA. Obviously, it's different for the legends like Dirk or Luka, but the fact is, none of the Europeans in the NBA are struggling to get by, whereas working a second job is a necessity for most WNBA players
You can thank Griner for the wage differential when she blew those three practice dunks on tv.
Kevyn Bamboo 🤣🤣🤣
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Lolol
Literally lold!!!!!!!!!
The rim was set too high
"I play in Kursk, this is just a small rural town"
It's got a population of 451,000 people. It's a city.
Lol that is not a small rural town.
If you are from New York, Chicago, or LA...it is small
Harry Strong no its still not small its twice the size of buffalo more than
st louis, Cleveland, Anaheim and Sacramento
How is that a small town it has 150000 more people than Minneapolis and Saint Paul combined
@@kristianprinc That's not even close, Minneapolis has 400,000 and Saint Paul has 300,000.
"career with no offseason"
That sounds an awful lot like 99% of regular jobs in the world...
They also play 40 games or so, 10 min pet quarter. There's literally millions of people who'd do that for 50k
Also many people work away from home for far less money but dont complain, celebrities always think they have it the hardest.
I wish I could get a job that paid me $60k for working half a year
@@davidfilipovic163 nah most people complain, the only difference is that they don’t have a platform to voice their complaints
Fungal
I barely make 75k a year as an ER nurse, working on the floor 12 hours a shift, saving lives, and putting my life in danger. Shut up and enjoy your 100k
Odd flex but okay
Medical professionals save lives but sports and entertainment give people a reason to live. Thus the big paychecks for male professionals athletes and actors and actresses. No one likes the WNBA... no one watches So they don’t get paid.
@@wakawaka1976 100k is getting payed, then making money oversee. Not to mention they have endorsements. So there payed.
Wnba players are jealous of the money nba players make, but damn, they should be lucky to have that 100k per year
Alex it’s not a flex what
Women don't even watch the WNBA
rrmond I do and I'm a female you sound ignorant and stupid
Jay Graham how?? Nobody watches the WNBA they literally losing money right now. No one wants to watch terrible basketball
The only female sport I watch is USA women soccer.... I watch beach women’s volleyball but that’s porn lol 👍🏾
Jay Graham
Unlike you the rest of us don't watch trash.
All the wnba player's wives and girlfriends do xD
$110K a year to play like 40 games in a failing league. i'm sorry, I don't feel sorry.
Equinsu Ocha I can actually dunk! If I identify as a woman can I get some!
These Girls are spoiled cry babies
Shit that’s good money! I wish I could make 100k to play fuckin basketball! Ungrateful ass hoes
aldo capone 😂😂😂
They literally get paid that much? Why the hell are they complaining I could easily live off that type of money for just playing basketball
"You have to really work for your money." Funny how that...ahem...works, isn't it?
I'm a hypocrite. I want more people to watch the WNBA but I can't bring myself to watch it. I need to see dunks and Steph Curry status 3's.
richardsucksx how about you watch it then and tell us what's going on
Do you know why you can't watch it? Because it sucks. . .
LMAO...
i understand:-) we ain't never gonna see a wnba player going vince carter on the rim right? but i watch any basketball video does'nt matter men or women. i enjoy watching them both
Same
WNBA attendance was 1,574,078 in 2016-2017. On average, WNBA players make $71,635 while the maximum salary caps at $115,500 for veterans who've been in the league for at least six years. The attendance in the G League was 1,616,656 in 2017-2018. G League salaries are only now UP TO $35,000/year. The women are being paid much better than their male counterparts with comparable attendances with their respective leagues. The WNBA is comparable to the G League, not the NBA.
And literally any G league player would body any WNBA player
@Lit Videos yeah that's why I said it bro. The OP stated that WNBA players make more than G leaguers even with similar attendance. I then pointed out that they make more despite ALSO being objectively lesser players. Didn't mean to throw that over your head.
WNBA players are honestly more comparable to a decent men's high school basketball team in terms of skill haha
WNBA has been a money loser since DAY ONE. If they do not like the pay, go flip burgers. No one watches this TRASH. WNBA is TRASH. I think after this, the WNBA should open up in CHINA and RUSSIA and TURKEY, for FOOD and get out of the USA. You see these people HATE THE USA and they are getting a TASTE of what they lIKE. They are what they eat. EAT COMMUNIST meals and this makes you one. KEEP IT REAL. WNBA SUCKS.
The wnba is comparable to AAU ball
So much complaining jeeeez you chose to play ball
She was being interviewed...sometimes the truth is difficult
Mad because she has to do two-a days smhh
She said her rookie year she got 40k, 40k for playing highschool level basketball.
Nothing's stopping her from playing in the NBA-there's no gender requirement-well, except talent, that is.
they don't make as much bc they don't sell as much...that's it...nothing else.
Willy Snakes facts
They don't sell as much because you are a misogynist ! Well thats what a cat lady with a Subaru would tell you.
Because they're not as promoted. The NBA doesn't really promote the WNBA. There's no good reason why they can get paid significantly more overseas than at home.
GO30tv 〽 Umm...it's called "economics".
The biggest basketball market in the world is in the US. The fact that US player have to go overseas to get decent wages is because the NBA is failing to market the WNBA.
lower the rims, If I see women dunking on each other, I'd start watching
Garrett you’re dumb because most of the women in the WNBA that are like 6 foot or 5 foot something can dunk
WNBA dunks are less intense/entertaining than high school dunks. They just kinda bounce up and roll the ball in the hoop. No physicality, no athleticism. Just the bare minimum.
you do have some women that be dunk on in games.
Garrett they do
Kani X I doubt that...the NBA is just too advanced. The dunks we not be impressive ...
The WNBA should overlap the NBA season. They should play their games before the NBA games. I would go to a WNBA/NBA double header... but typically I'm not parking downtown for just a WNBA game.
PillowTalk9 then they cant have their own court design
*The NBA subsidizes their operation costs, arenas and salaries. For all intents and purposes they are a leach.* At least this way the league can get more popular and carry it's own weight.
PillowTalk9 Thats actually a good idea.
King Darious I mean think about if it all it meant was showing up a little bit earlier wouldn't you see a WNBA game? It would still be shorter than a baseball or football game.
I think they should also lower the rims to 9 feet so they can dunk making it more exciting
" whats the point of practicing all these jumpshots".... * proceeds to miss last second jump shot to win the game *
sounds lazy to me "for what?" ummm to get better at your craft? ummmm to be a GOAT like kobe? smh
Johnny Canuck Its so true! Right when I heard her say that, I thought in my head "She has a bad attitude. Lebron be the first one in the gym and last one out. Ray Allen be going to the arena just to put up shots on an off-day. Her mentality is all messed up."
practice?? are we talking about practice??
yeah because NBA players NEVER complain about practice or miss a jump shot…….Allen Iverson anyone? People really need to get off their high horses…..NBA players complain also
ya she put up a no arch flat shot. sigh
"We want to be paid like the men."
"Okay, so you want to upgrade to the larger ball, play longer quarters, play more than twice as many games, bring in the same number of ticket sales, receive the same viewer numbers, and compete at the same talent level?"
"Well no, not that...We just want more money because we play the same game."
"You play the same game like an Applebee's cook is the same as Gordon Ramsey."
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...nice mic drop..well played.
don't disrespect Applebees like that lol
Well the players individually cant really control the last 3 components on your list but im sure as hell they wouldnt mind being up for the challenge on the others. Ever since i started playing ball i was pissed when i had to go out and buy a smaller basketball just so i could get accustomed to it for practice. Idk about them but if a regular high school basketball player wants these rules to change then i bet they do too
My sister wanted to play basketball and there wasn’t a girls team so she played as the only girl on the boys team
Honestly I couldn’t name a single WNBA player or team
@@iamtheboredlife9915 I literally don't watch basketball (or any sport but cricket) and I could easily name you 20 basketball players. The average person knows who LeBron and Jordan and Kobe is even if they don't care about the NBA, those are household names. Literally no one knows about no damn female team or player because their terrible, they don't play good, skillful basketball and don't deserve to be known.
@@iamtheboredlife9915 it's not ignorant, there are a minority who watch the wnba. nbatv? people watch basketball on espn or tnt. bare people watch on nba tv
I am the bored life 99 cmon man you know that barely anyone pays attention to WNBA. It isn't ignorant if everyone else is in the same boat.
@@iamtheboredlife9915 and nobody gives a damn about it either.
Besides the Leslie lady !, they don’t have the endorsements or people don’t want to see women play ball
Melo low key supporting WNBA by producing this. Good person.
True. Much love for people like him.
They shouldn't even make 110k! It honestly shouldn't even be a thing. The NBA has been subsidizing the WNBA for YEARS. IT has never made money and never will, so the NBA pays money out of its pocket to let it survive. I'm not saying this because I hate women's basketball, I'm saying this because it's a TERRIBLE business that the NBA shouldn't have to pay for.
xHeRoHx I don't know what you have against women's bball, but I respectfully disagree. Either you are jealous that they're more athletic than you or you're a misogynist. These women shouldn't have to leave the country, miss important holidays, be away from family to make money. It doesn't matter if you don't like the way they play ball. They're better ballers than you. NBA players respect them, who are you to trash their game? Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have a say in their salary. Worry about your own paycheck instead of their own. Don't @ me.
Did you not read my comment? I'm speaking strictly from a business standpoint. I said NOTHING about their game and stated I have nothing against it, clearly these women are the best in the world at the game. As a player they need to go where the demand is, which is NOT in the USA. Many great male players also have to go overseas as well.
>These women shouldn't have to leave the country, miss important holidays, be away from family to make money.
I mean they can just choose different job? A good high school male bball team would probably do well in WNBA, that's how low lvl it is.
Man, the whole damn video she complained about playing ball for a living and experiencing another country’s culture. She’s doing what she loves for a living and traveling. Not many people get to do that
My buddy plays ball overseas and loves it. He's played in Italy and Greece. Who the fuck is gonna complain about that??
Pretty much. Most of us do things we don't like for money but we do them anyways, except Vice doesn't do stories on us.
Right that's called entitled and spoiled because being a lesbian ballpayer they should get subsidised income
I hear Brittney Grindr is going to fight hard for “voters rights” and gun laws in America!? News flash: Brittney……all Americans, male, female and any race have freedom to vote! Also, the US Constitution gives every US citizen the right to bear arms. This shall not be infringed upon. So, go play ball and light the courts up that way. Your “fighting” for rights long ago granted. 🇺🇸
How do you feel like being away from all your family, in a cold country with miserable weather, different culture that's very different from what you used to? Ya, you are bound to complain a little bit.
I'm sorry but when she was complaining about practice two times a day, like have u ever heard of kobe's workout
Why are you comparing an NBA grown man legend to a WNBA player overseas? The workout would between the hardest worker in the wnba and kobe would still be light years away more than likely
@@juneross7167, Spot on, apparently some people actually buy into the PC nonsense like chicks in military special forces. In the real world these things never happen.
@@juneross7167 because those women want to be paid like the nba athletes. same pay same work.
@@billy5179 exactly. Can't bitch about pay equality but don't want to work equally as hard. Truth is sports is entertainment. Kobe and other men stars would laugh at 200 shots a day. When you put that work in your skills get better. People come to see excellent skills not pretty good skills. While there are women stars the talent level drop off is big. She's an Olympian and bitching about practice. That's top 15-20 in the US. Guaranteed the top 20 us men don't have her lax work effort
What I'm understanding her to mean is they don't have enough recovery time for their bodies. You can love to work out and practice hard, but you still need recovery time. It doesn't matter who you are. People that have not played sports perhaps may see this as complaining. But particularly as you get older..smarter workouts are superior to just having higher volume workouts.
I wonder why WNBA doesn't locate teams in smaller towns. A lot of Euroleague-level women's teams around Europe are located in towns with 200-500k population and no major mens sports franchises. Much easier to get local press exposure, loyal fans and strong relations with municipal government when you're the biggest fish in a small pond.
That's a good idea honestly.
@@pwnedeful Best idea I have heard so far.
That's actually happened with Giannis here in Greece, our dumbass scouts didn't even recognize him and a dude from America from the other Atlantic ocean Found him, they do that just no too often
There was a womens league prior to the WNBA(that ironically was killed because of the existence of the WNBA and the support of the NBA) that was in smaller cities and did well. It seems the NBA thought that by having teams in larger cities and typically in the same city as an NBA team that would help attendance and the popularity of the WNBA.
That could work, however. The wage difference will still remain. Maybe even decrease.
Who's ever heard one of their friends say, "change the channel there's a game on," and they flip it to the WNBA?
Get out of my house.
Neva!!!!
Ferdi Sanchez Yes! Heard it all my adult life. But all my friends support women’s sport and have season tickets and also a college team. The thing comes out solidly, Is how Misogynistic you and all the Men are that troll women’s sports.
david sanders ok
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Gina Peterson nobody trolls women’s sports just women’s basketball lol
the reason the old lady gets pass everybody in the line is because in Russia they often let older people (above 60years), war veterans etc a priority in some shops , but in this particular situation she's obviously a lit bit out of her mind and no one messes with her cause she'll scream & yell af
The problem is the hoop....I'm telling you people, imagine if they played on 7ft hoops and could dunk on each other and posterize each other. It would be entertaining!!! Watching the WNBA is like watching a really good elementary school team :( it's boring....
The Lawl good point
The Lawl lowering the hoop... hmm
it would throw off they jumpers bro spent years getting that arc right and gyms don't have non regulation goals
Ratchet Rock very good point, sir
what are you drunk right now you wife beater. it was a joke
"200 shots and what?..." - practice, you fool! To shoot better.
Junior high players take 200 shots in practice...having played before myself, that number is easily attainable in, say, 20 minutes.
Why do they play on the WNBA on the first place? I admire Taurasi for taking a year off the WNBA so she could rest and play well in Russia where she makes real $$.
the season starts at different time so why not play in the wnba while it's the offseason of most other women's league
It takes a toll on their bodies. Playing basketball causes a lot of stress on your knees.
Ana De la Cruz why play basketball in the first place?
I guess they like it and are good at it. Aren't those the reasons why people do things?
Ana De la Cruz
Wnba revenue 25 million nba 7.4 billion....no duh
for whatever reason WNBA players don´t even move like athletes, it looks slow as hell. I rather watch woman's track and field.
Women's track and field, tennis, mma..all good..women's basketball is terrible
women’s soccer is decent too
You sound dumb
jonz23m I’d rather watch women’s soccer but men’s ball
@@MalakhiW no it isn't. Have you seen how slow and bad the games are
8 seasons in Russia and she doesnt speak even basic Russian?
Joshua Lee I don't think she's there to make Russian friends.. she's there to make money
I speak English and Russian, and Russian is a pretty hard language to learn from scratch. Unless you make the effort
Elitefrm 3 some of those same people who don't speak English get mad when others don't speak Spanish, wtf? Lol
Did you not watch the video? She says multiple times she respects and appreciates the Russian fans for giving her the opportunity to do what she loves. I can guarantee she knows some basic Russian but probably not much more because she's only there a few months at a time and most of her time is spent playing ball, recovering or sleeping. It's not like she's going about town trying to integrate into Russain culture.
So what lol? Andrei Markov spent 17 years in montreal he barely speaks english you can bet he doesnt know a french word haha
Imagine working 6 months a year in America and getting at least $72,000 to play a kids game and you're telling everybody you're not making a decent wage smh
ChampagneFreddy 210 yeah for average people it’s a lot. But for a athlete that travels like 3 times a week to play 42 minutes of basketball on national tv is a little bit. And just because the season isn’t going on during the other months that doesn’t mean they stop working, they still have to practice and work on their skill or their skill will decline and they will get cut.
Nahshon Devose yea but the product they are putting out is trash, most would argue they are being overpaid for the horrible product that the WNBA is
thing is i could probably play on their lvl right now but no one would pay to watch me do it so why should they get payed?
Nahshon Devose they don’t even care, she literally said “I shoot up 200 shots in practice, and for what?” Lol male athletes do too and it’s bc they care about the game and want to get better and a chip. Plenty males go overseas and they got the same struggle she does. Women just want shit without working for it.
@@NinjaFingers19 Exactly! Shes acting like she is slaving away in the sun doing hard labor playing competitive sports. She should have a love for the sport, the level of competition, and the ambiance itself like every other athlete. You know what they say, as soon as you have thoughts of retiring, you've already mentally checked out. If she feels like this is hard labor with her, "and for what" attitude, then maybe this "job" isn't for her. Maybe she should try working at Katz Delicatessen. I heard they make the best sandwiches.
"I got up 200 shots today, and for what?"... Maybe that's why no one watches women's basketball. The elite in the NBA get up 500+ shots a day.
Can you believe some people here are saying that there's no way they do that during the season? Oh these kids.....
If you can shoot the pill it don't take that many, shoot straight and pull that imaginary string, shoot for the back of the rim, then pull that string so the ball will fall about two inches short, sound like bottoms to me, but the three point shot is a lot of luck, keep the ball straight is the key, the goal don't move, it stays in one place, this works wonders for free throws, can you feel it. $$$$
Also she is supposed to be doing what she loves. If you doing what you love than just enjoy every shot. Life is a journey not a destination. People want to wake up feeling like they made it somewhere... I'm preaching to myself..
i hate to say this but its because basketball is a mens dominated sport that some women like to play. and to be honest much of the women that are in wnba are lesbian.. meaning they desire to dominate a mens sport. but they cant.. well there ends the myth that men and women should get equal pay across the board.. another scientific evidence based fact that liberals will try to fight against... men cant be women and women cant be men.. this is a fact liberals should learn to live with...
Carlos Danger Gabe Cupps #22 on Bronny James team said he puts up at least 1500 shots a game and he’s going into 9th grade
200 shots? kobe used to leave after making 1000 shots
I know. She is literally complaining about doing something that will make her better. She doesn't deserve her privilege of playing pro basketball.
Kobe put up a 1000 shots individually. I’m sure he never did that during team practice time and I’m sure Phil Jackson never made the team as a unit shoot 200 shots. There’s a difference between honing skills with a purpose and the owner of a team/coach making everyone shoot 200 shots just to say they did it.
@@JayT89277 ughhhh you want a bet? And I'm not even a Kobe fan
Well the muscle mass is different on a woman. Not saying she can't make 100 shots, but most of the women have no muscle tone whatsoever. Kobe was extremely muscular basketball wise.
exactly, bunch of lazy b@tchs do less that a 25% of the NBA players work but want the same money.. its repulsive
Considering that Vice not long ago got into hot water for not paying employees, they sure got balls reporting on stuff like this
With that attitude towards perfecting her game, no wonder she is not making millions lol
I guess curry aint complaining about shootingtraining
Agreed. When she said "So I put up 200 shots today, so what?" I was shocked
Agreed but the lack of reward/recognition probably gets to them sometimes. Obviously they still get paid well but psychologically it must take a toll that they can't ever close the wage gap. I think that it's like being trapped in a dead end job in a sense. Like they're doing the same thing over and over again but not much changes, could make you go insane.
@@jellyslapper2872 simp.
Facts!
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It’s probably cause you aren’t good enough to be a professional. The thing is the term professional means there needs to be some payment. Keep it up tho bro.
wnba doesn't pay the players because they dont generate enough entertainment. How is the wnba marketing their teams to the masses??
I swear, their marketing is horrible. WNBA jerseys are ugly, I have one, I wish that they were similar to ones that they play in but they really aren't. They need more selection for their merchandise. Like how the NBA sells duplicates of the warm-up clothes that they wear before games.
Suvegon your a huge hater I bet u couldn't beat the worst wnba player
The NBA commissioner said it they have a marketing problem not a product problem the WNBA is very entertaining its not the players fault they put their all into their games its just a matter of people arnt open to it remember the league is still new 20 years old it takes time
Leon Wang Female college teams and WNBA use high schoolers, college players, male athletes to scrimmage against the teams in practice. Shockingly it makes females better athletes playing against men. But yes the men routinely outplay the WNBA teams. You can't beat biology.
Kayla Wright
The MLS is new too, started the same year as WNBA, in a country, well, that isn't soccer driven(close to zero soccer culture at all in the beginning vs basketball culture) and still came up bigger and better than WNBA since.
Nothing is stopping these women from playing in the NBA. Just their skills
@tinymahuta aka "skills"
@@SocialNormz101 no it isn’t skills is dribbling shooting stuff like that woman just have different bodies so it isn’t only their skills it’s also biology
@tinymahuta you cant really compare their “skills” to mens’. The biology itself is different. But if both the nba and wnba can play to the same proportions then id say its fair
They don't have basic competitive instinct for defense or strategy
Nothing is stopping you from learning about how the world actually runs, either. One day you, too will die. Try a cup of empathy and a slice of actual empathy…better yet, go travel. #FREEBRITTNEYGRINER
Well sorry to say this but I prefer watching female volleyball 😂.
Women volleyball players are hot af!
Metal Head a whale and a dolphin getting it on....more enjoyable
LFL is way better in my opinion.
Women volleyball is actually fun to watch
Dem tits bouncy
I don't fuck with the WNBA but that pissed me off that they don't pay the players, let alone the all star players enough that they have to play overseas
The league doesn't generate enough money to pay them more.
I bet the NBA has a shit ton of cash, they could sprinkle some on the Women's league until it got more recognition
+Mrmynameisasa that's exactly what the NBA does and the WNBA has been around for ~20 years now. People know it exists, just nobody wants to watch it.
Sad, but true. It's just not the NBA that the fans are used to. I just get bored after trying to watch WNBA games a few times. It's worse than watching two of the worst teams in the NBA play each other.
the NBA and WNBA are 2 different leagues. How is it right to get money out of the male athletes player just so they can give it to the WNBA players simply because the women are not exciting enough to watch?
The only way to justify paying players a lot of money is if fans watch/spend money on the WNBA
Balint Gal im not spending money for no game where everybody layups and where my local high school probably is better....
AND get major endorsements. Would you buy a WNBA player's shoes?
Carlton Womble Hell NO!!!! You will get roasted 🚶 walking on the streets with some wnba shoes on just give up your man card asap! if you do lolllll this is a made up name but you cant tell your friends you are wearing them New Sarah AIR 1s to the club Lmaooooooo
(kneel-before-me-now) Well, then would you wear a WNBA jersey?
lol
Imagine being given a job out of pity, costing your boss money, then demanding a raise
Nancy Pelosi nice one Nancy!
Here is a question then... why is no one fighting for the poor CFL players who make less on average then WNBA players as men playing professional football? Because the CFL doesn't generate as much money as the NFL is the answer. It has nothing to do with equality.
The reason women get paid more in Russia has nothing to do with the way they get paid in the States. Straw man argument at its finest. Name 5 Russian born players in the NBA? Now if you can name 2 starting Russian born players in the NBA? Russia is a not a huge basketball country same with China yet has huge populations. Unlike the U.S. however both of these countries don't produce a competitive men's or women's basketball product on their own. Thus they pay a premium for foreign players. She says right off the bat that she can't play for that kind of money in countries like Turkey. No mention of other basketball countries in Europe that wont pay like Russia (like Spain, Croatia, Serbia, or France). Because those other markets produce top level talent on the mens side as well as just being much bigger basketball focused countries. Her reasoning is because its cold in Russia? There are beaches in all countries nice places to go everywhere. The fact is its solely due to the lack of domestic competition the women get paid better there. In NA there are a much wider array of talented basketball to watch before you get to the women's leagues. NBA, G League, NCAA, ice cubes 3 on 3 thing, hell even men's HS basketball. Unfortunately for the women they are ranked below all of those from a money making venture stand point. The WNBA Produces around 25 mil a season with most of that being subsidies from the NBA. Most of the Marketing for the WNBA has been done by the NBA. The NBA is heavily invested on the WNBA doing well yet people just don't care as much. Why? Well probably because the product lacks in what people want out of basketball. Like the CFL not capturing the American fan base 20 years ago. Its a good product but it needs to be an excellent product to compete. Honestly super easy fix instead of complaining about how much more the top athletes make in the sport tell women to start coming to games and supporting the league. Then they will see their money. Until that happens the WNBA is just what the CFL is to the NFL.
I get your point. But it's eh at best. USA womens soccer is as good as any team in any sport. They win everything and have more fans than the men. Still make less than half of the men. Equality plays a role. Its just easy to right off WNBA because they suck at marketing.
@@Bovice..YT-handles-are-fn-dumb The US women's soccer team may win everything, but overall international women's soccer generates millions, whereas the men generate BILLIONS.
Last year, the men's World Cup generated $6 billion, and gave about 7 percent to the teams. The 2019 Women's World Cup made $131 million, and gave out more than 20 percent to the teams.
Yes, the women are indeed “No. 1 in the world,” but they’re number one in women’s sports, which has far fewer fans and plays far fewer games.
@@Bovice..YT-handles-are-fn-dumb
Are you saying that the US football (soccer) team have more fans than the US men team ? How bad do your men footballer suck ?? XD
@@rohitbhushan8855
they dont this guy is just and idiot.
them men fill stadiums better then the women.
not to mention the men actually have a pro league that is profitable
@@EvilDickism
Actually, the US women soccer team has made a couple of million $ more than the men team last year.. So, I think, it's completely fair if they're asking for the equal saleries as their male counterparts.
All the WNBA needs to do is change their marketing to focus on young girls. The WNBA is the only female professional team sport that gets some national TV time. So why doesn't every little girl 4-18 want to grow up and play basketball? They decided to take the LGBTQ route which will discourage heterosexual couples with little girls. And regardless of what the media will tell you, little aren't thinking about their sexuality, so they can't relate to the product that the WNBA puts out.
Plus from an entertainment standpoint they need to shorten their court to the college size. Shorter court equals more points. More points mean more opportunities for exciting plays.
Also how is the WNBA missing out of the social media real estate? Instagram was basically made for 13 year old girls.
All their numbers were up last year so that's a plus but so far this season it's been pretty underwhelming for me at least. But hopefully they get somebody in their league front office who is closer to younger demographic and understands new media
I’ve always said that the WNBA is only in this situation because of failed marketing.
your first point is fucking stupid and homophobic, if little girls don't care about sexuality then they wouldn't give a fuck about a league being LGBT friendly. And if you knew anything about Gen Z girls, then you would know that even straight ones give a lot of fucks about gay rights and being inclusive at a fairly young age now. Sexuality isn't a battle between straight and gay people, thats fucking ridiculous
Watch you get called homophobic for stating the obvious. Basketball isn’t about sexuality it’s. Sports the lgbt community is small compared to heterosexuals so they are targeting a small market
They have a level ungratefulness to them. Like I'd be so happy to be in Russia if that's where I get love from
Absofuckinglutely
They’re also earning more than 95% of the people there and still bitching.
J G their not bitching about the money from Russia they “bitching” about the people in America that don’t even care for them and judging on some bullshit ass stereotype
@@adisynsinclair3637 no it’s facts . Sorry but facts are facts
Right?? That really rubbed me the wrong way... If a foreign country was willing to host and pay me six figures, I sure as hell wouldn't demean them on camera, regardless of what my private opinions were. She should be much more gracious, being a guest in another country/culture...
The problem with the WNBA lies on the fact they are trying to fill up Arenas built for NBA&NHL Audiences, women's basketball has not yet "reached" that quota, The cost of keeping those facilities going takes a hug chunk profit margins, on top of the fact that their merchandise sales are complete trash,
Along with their advertisement
No, I'm not mad
David Baylon that's true but I'm not gonna lie in a 12 yr old and I wanna be a successful ball player when I grow up but this video us making me think that over I'm like gonna cry
B fit or nobody wants to watch em play
SilentChicken they do in college
BRad the Dallas wings play in a college stadium and it’s usually 90% full
been there 8 years and haven't learned much of the language?
They still struggle with English so it's to be expected.
@@1wyatt1c20 Gg my guy. U deserve more likes but I doubt itll happen.
She doesnt seem very appreciative of the opportunity she has to make good money playing ball.
Ruben Vangas she’s just being homest
7:37 Go and get that $$$ Semoine. Ain't no glory in the WNBA. IDK even know who won the chip last year. Not being funny
You gotta respect the hustle of these women as well as the fans that show love
they weren't even sweating.
No one respects MY hustle when I drag my 47-year-old ass out there to run six miles a day. We respect hustle when it comes as part of a quality product.
Fans??.... Lol what fans?...even over seas in Russia the seat are still empty. There next destination for more fan support will be them leaving earth and visiting the planet mars for more fan support 💀
Yes, all 8 of the WNBA's fans show so much love.
Nooooooope! Yeah let's keep patting them on the back cuz that's what go us here. If only college coaches told them the truth before they gave up on profitable careers to pursue a sport no one asked for and no one watches. You're a moron beta loser
Most of these women would better off using their degrees to get a nice job and building some longevity over the course of their lifetime. Those salaries ain't worth the hassle.
Not even close to true. 40K + 185k Overseas > Your Degree in Leisure Services
What's the average length of a WNBA career? 5 mins in and I'm thinking is this the 1970s?
She defected BACK to Russia. LOL
I disagree. These ladies are paving the way for young girls. They are suffering so that one day young girls may have equal pay as in the NBA! Young girls deserve options beyond high school just like the guys.
@@GodsChild1159 nobody is deserving of freebies regardless of gender. People (men and women) have to earn what they get. Wether it is respect, degrees, or money. You get back with what you put in as effort. It just doesn't work any other way!
Nope, playing basketball is much easier and they get paid a lot more.
I am always surprised that there is not some NCAA All American type who bypasses the WNBA completely to focus on their career in Europe.
Probably just a matter of time.
Montgomery Woseley It's about comfort zones and awareness. Most people LIVE their lives in a small geographical area.
Once they figure out the money aspect? It’s bound to happen -even if it’s in small pockets.
I suppose playing a season or two in the USA for Pro Teams helps make them more marketable and worth more overseas
I'm surprised the men coming out of HS don't spend that year in Europe actually making money.
Dope video, and a great way to see the type of dedication athletes give. Its the same with female soccer players, they have to hustle big in Europe!
At the end of the day if they can’t make enough money they should get real jobs. I can’t make money from pretending to be a Jedi so I gotta work a day job.
She out there complaining about 200 shots during a day of practice when thats the amount Kobe or Steph would put in before practice starts. I thought a lot of the difference between the NBA vs WNBA was genetic, didn’t know it is also work ethic.
You should do better research before you decide to go pro lol.
Love that she didn't realize until her junior year that WNBA players don't make a lot of money (they don't deserve it, either). Bitch, do you have Google?
I love how she acts like its some mysterious thing how the pay is different
IKR, you can't split up nothing.
One day I’ll own the league and fix it up, the WNBA is currently worth 60 million but hopefully I can change that up.
Its an endless money pit, keep your money and invest in NBA if any, at least you'll make some money.
She really leads off with “only 40 thousand dollars” ........ in her rookie year....sympathy gone.
You get paid to play a game at a high level. Sounds like a dream.
WNBA arenas should be transformed into kitchens
And make u cook
@@wonderwoman594 no im just gonna eat
I don't feel bad for people who hold jobs that pay fair wages AND allows them to travel and experience unique cultures. These women are blessed!
Even a player in the WNBA earning 60k a year out-earns the average person.
Albert Machtfrei rrrr
Exactly! All you gotta do is hoop practice and travel!!!
Abigail Ikechi-Konkwo I can feel you on that but at the same time every know the WNBA ain’t getting paid
@@orangeisthabest thats because the WNBA does not bring in any revenue...they cant afford to give raises they LOSE MONEY EVERY YEAR
She went and graduated from LSU. Use your college degree to get a job in the states. There are more things harder than playing basketball for a living.
Good video, never would have known WNBA players have to play overseas
Enrique C. They don't have to. They choose to.
They don't have to play overseas. They are making 100k for a seasonal job here in the USA and some choose to work overseas. But need is a pretty strong word for people that are well paid for only having to work a few months and are then free to work another job the rest of the year. NBA players don't have that freedom, they can't just play for another team in the offseason or work an additional job(depending). At least people in the WNBA get paid a LOT of money on a monthly basis and then have the majority of the year left to make even more money.
OS: They don't HAVE to. They choose to. But it's a good idea if they want to maximize their prime earning potential years. And considering the fact that they don't even play half as many regular season games as the NBA players do, they do just fine here.
The fact that they have to play overseas speaks volumes pull the plug already on the wnba its a money pit that nobody cares about.
Most never would’ve known they play in America
i remember reading about her in slam magazine when she was in high school, nice to see she is still balling.
40k a year to play ball is pretty good actually
i wouldnt mind making 10k every 3 months to play basketball, shit it would keep me from having 2 jobs lol
Lower the rims by 2 feet and I’ll b interested
she is cool.
I’ve never heard someone complain about getting up 200 shots a day.
That's a competitive 8th graders workout. Wtf!
She lost me at 200 shots a day
Right? In highschool we would do 200 all the time
Kobe would throw up at her 200 shots comment
Fucking nailed it. Yes. 10000% he would
And now he’s dead
mistaseeforce What tf that has to do with any thing?!?! She can still play and what you don’t know about her is that when she’s around competition and she’s realizes she has the knife in her back, she plays harder and she wins. Statistics show it. But don’t take my word for it.. you play her one on one. Tell me how it turns out.
Kobe probably nailed 200 shots before getting out of bed.
btallie she’s complaining about getting better at something she does for a living and wonders why the WNBA brings in no money...these “professionals” have no work ethic to be better which is why they suck and nobody watches that shit show they call women’s basketball
Anyone else replay the buzzer beater to double check?
Looks like she didn't get it off in time. I played it at .25x speed and paused it a few times. Eventually I was able to pause it with the red light on and it looked like she still had her finger tips on the ball.
aligboyakasha Yep. I checked. The shot was too close to call even played at .25x speed. It could have gone either way. Tough call actually.
She should have gotten the foul call on that put back
I’ve got it with the red light on and the ball still not even close to coming out of her hands yet. No basket, and don’t blame it on the refs
I was a 90s kids and around 4th/5th grade when the WNBA started. I loved it, wanted to be in the WNBA, my parents took me to games. Then the momentum died. We lost our home team and no one really cared. I hope to see the day women sports have respect.
why respect an inferior product?
Nothing's wrong with women wanting to play sports, I'm all for it. But its retarded when they complain about pay yet every single team is at a loss and the whole league only relies on the NBA to have them in existent. Would be funny to see them complain if NBA didn't subsidize the league and collapse. Thing is why watch a boring version of an exciting game where you have LeBron and Giannis and other players doing reverse dunks and windmills almost every game.
People genuinely like women sports no ones really hating on it tbh it’s just the product the WNBA brings in comparison to the NBA is not even close making it boring u cant get mad at people not liking something that’s not fun to watch lol
Not just the momentum died, the games are so slow paced even when they are playing on smaller arenas they look like it takes an eternity to go from one side to the other, some plays that can be blocked by the opossing team are not being blocked, they just stand there watching the other player do their plays, they fail free dunks even when they have the height to reach it with a tiny jump.
Like one comment said above, is not like people hates women in sports, it's just that in the WNBA case they are so bad at it... Just look at the USA Soccer team, I'm not gonna say that they are better than their male counterpart, i mean the male team has to face a higher quality teams than the female team has to face in their league but they put a better show than the male team, the only 2 things that fucks up the salaries of the female team is that they work on an international audience basis, if the female soccer category is not popular around the rest of world then they're fucked, as well as the CBA they signed and then later complained about it being unfair (which is ridiculous, they signed it)
Hmm funny people respect women’s mma 🤷🏼♂️ .
I see a lot of complaining... thats about it
100 Brazilians Argentinians Uruguayans Germans Spanish all play in other counties yet I don’t hear them complain
Whole lotta bitching lol
If Damian Lillard talked about Portland the way Seimone talks about Kursk, he'd be out of a job. Except... he talks adoringly about the City of Roses, despite the ceaseless rain during the basketball season. And he refers to the Blazers as a team that he can't imagine leaving. He is our hero. Yet, on national T.V., Simone's crossing off days like Kursk is Shawshank.
And the lady that cut in line, she likely makes less than $150 a month, which might buy enough food and keep her apartment warm enough for her to survive the month. Down the street, Seimone is making something like $300,000 in a season, and then talks like some kind of martyr for having to take 200 shots at practice. What an elitist snob.
Instead of complaining, she should try ASSIMILATING & LEARNING ABOUT HER HOST COUNTRY!!
Now I understand why 'comments are disabled' in some RUclips videos. People can really be mean...how do you compare this woman to Kobe or LeBron?
People are sick. Economically I understand teh pay disparity. Notwithstanding so of these computer warriors are just losers.
I agree but The problem is that these WNBA players are comparing themselves to the NBA and wondering why they don’t get paid the same
That’s why people are making the comparison
Nobody is mean, that's just the truth
The WNBA is terrible, and those women thinking they should get paid the same as the men is ridiculous
Nobody watches the WNBA not even women,
Basil Odira the women are comparing themselves to the men and saying lebron just got 154 mil we over here trying to get a mil. That’s why there are the comparisons also in terms of work ethic you can compare everyone pretty close to equally. They are treating the WNBA as a movement not a business when they think about the. Financials.
I appreciate that they have a professional league in the U.S. for these women, and always supported women's college hoops wherever I've lived.
However, to all those in all these threads writing about how these ladies "deserve" to make more in the WBNA, I have this question:
If you delivered a product that the public has determined is unappealing to the point where revenues would never cover expenses if it weren't for yearly subsidies, how much do you believe you would "deserve" to get paid?
Cuz they dumb!
How they lose the game is a perfect visualization of the whole argument. She misses the game-winning shot (maybe if she'd done more shooting practice the shot would've gone in) and then she blames the referee for being bribed. It's never their performance that needs to improve it's always somebody else's fault.
Also when she was complaining about training made me sick
The WNBA players get trashed too much unnecessarily. They work just as hard but just aren’t physically as strong.
Tim S she was complaining about putting up 200 shots a day as a professional player when Gabe Cupps #22 on Bronny James team who’s going into 9th grade said he puts up at least 1500 shots a day
She’s complaining about practicing 2 times a day everyday.... I WISH I COULD DO THAT the only things I do is play basketball all day outside on my crooked basketball goal and when it’s to cold I can’t do anything because my town doesn’t have a gym except for school gym so I stay inside and work on form.
No, she was complaining a out an unnecessary practice...she even said in the video, we are here because we choose to be here.
Obviously she never took an economics class while in college. There is not a high demand for women's basketball, therefore not a lot money in it. If Carmelo feels guilty he should give up the majority of his money to a WNBA fund.
Kyle D Lmao, I'm taking Econ and I'm a junior in high school, they should know this
Why isn’t there a demand for Women’s basketball in the US? But there is one in other countries?
The WNBA is being underutilized. It can generate way more revenue than it currently has. The people running it a squandering a great opportunity. They should do to the WNBA, what people have done to woman’s tennis.
timithy4569
US has higher standards of entertainment than Mother Russia!
timithy4569
www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/sports/basketball/after-two-decades-wnba-still-struggling-for-relevance.html
@@timithy4569 There is no demand for women's basketball here in Russia. They are paid by very rich people, who don't give a damn about the profit, the team makes. And sometimes they are even paid from local budgets. So teachers salaries go to this "players".
So many ignorant comments under this video. Ridiculous 😪
The comments aren't wrong though. The WNBA loses money every year... the players shouldn't be payed at all.
DinoGaming44 nah some really are just ignorant though
Mariam Tajudeen No.... there aren’t
Mariam Tajudeen when a league losses 10 million a year and the nba is forced to basically save it from the WNBA failing, where a league that can’t generate money unless from tv deals or the nba and that’s it. They aren’t ignorant, if you can’t make a profit then why should you get paid more?
Per game they are making as much of not more than some players being paid 1k per game is more than most makes in half a month. Honestly most nba players put up 1000 shots a day whether there is a team practice or not. Some of the best shooters do 200 shots for each area ie in the right corner in the left corner, in the left corner, center right 3, center 3, center left 3 etc etc. oh btw I have a 50 dollar Russian ruble and in America it’s worth five dollars. So 70 rubles there is 7 dollars. Gotta do the calculation.
"You coming back late...Yeah...if you look at it this our first job" lol I'm not mad at all get those coins honey!
In Suge Knight voice. “Carmelo all up in the video”
6:08 I hear her, I'm a pilot and I only see my kids 1/3 of the year. But that's normal for any job where you're out of town. I don't regret it at all since I still have a loving wife and children that I love. I worked 10 years to get to this point and I'm only a few years from getting out of Regional Flying and getting to United Airlines. I'm 25 years old flying airplanes for a living trying to support my family. She should get used to it if she wants to "make that money".
Hang in there brother. I pray that God bless and keep you and your family strong and well.
She thinks that putting 200 shots is for nothing? Smh
i think she means in addition to all the shots she already takes and basketball she plays.
She was saying theirs more to basketball than just shooting jumpshots.
Mr7patela you are clueless!! Y'all do realize she is a fuckin legend and one of the greatest of all time there and in America...she's saying they overwork the Americans because they are more talented.
In the NBA they take 200 shots with each hand and that's just to warm up
Wow, I didn't know the WNBA pay was so bad that they play overseas, and make MORE money.
have you watched them playing?
they probably get more money than they deserve...
lol savage
If the rookie pay is at the average us income it’s not bad. They play 3 months out of the year and over half of America makes less than them
Javian Johnson no one watches it thats why. Its boring.
They make more in another country because the best basketball league in some countries are women's league. Heavily played by WNBA players. If NBA players played in those countries, the womens' salaries would go way down because the viewers would then have something much more entertaining to watch.
You earn what you bring in. It’s not that difficult to understand. You want to make BiG Money? You have to make big moves and be in the same caliber as nba players so you can bring in that fan revenue.If everyone was treated as equals we would have zero competition and Championships would be meaningless.
Did she say 40,000? Most engineers make 20% more than that right out of college!
40,000???? Girl, work overseas as civilian contractor....smh....🤔😥🙃
To call the people of Russia "cold" shows how little you know about them! As a Bulgarian, I can say it is always fun to talk to Russians! The Russians that I've met were open people and easy to communicate with, no barriers even though we spoke in English to each other!
You know, there was a time when NBA players also had to take seconds jobs. Do you know what they did about it? They worked hard to make their sport more popular so it would bring in more money and they wouldn't need second jobs anymore. The WNBA should follow that example.
I love Agustus Simone. Playoffs 18! 🎉Linx
mark Ski 😁
Small rural Town? Kursk has 415000 inhabitants? This woman trippin.
Also trashed it and the people who live there the entire video. Hope her trash talk makes it back there and she gets fired. Maybe she will like playing in North Korea.
Shoutout to Melo for this
the wnba would be more popular if their was sports gambling involved
he110 yup
Nah
Safest bet in wnba, "I bet that this game will suck."
The WNBA does not make money the NBA pays to support them the WNBA you can make $120,000 a year which is good money $75,000 a year is good money to play basketball for 6 months I'm really tired of hearing women complain about this and I'm really tired of seeing women in the WNBA complaining that they don't get paid enough
Not a fan of the WNBA, but I really feel for these girls
4:48 ameircansplaning
That's sad, these women work hard!
Gwumike and Augustus on the same team? How is that even fair? lol
Wow man I’ve seen people nicer just moving to a new town. These witches are in a completely different continent acting like anyone owes them anything 🤦🏿♂️
I feel bad for the WNBA players having to go overseas but the revenue in the States just dont justify bigger wages!
Seimone from baton rouge,Louisiana..✊✊✊💯💯💯💯...home of da paper chasers💯