Since we have been getting some love for Vegeta clan, it’s about time that we finally get an LF final Flash Vegeta. The fact that we still don’t have that is very surprising.
They really shouldve given him card draw speed after 30 counts also if they timegate it, but nontheless he seems solid. Hard to tell how good he really is going to be tho since its just the start of the season.
Not tanking that beast gohan blue with the GRN card damage reduction is enough for me he fucking sucks and i hate how they always make vegeta so fucking bad in this game
his zenkai ability is kinda odd to just buff yel vegeta clan (vt tag buff basically) and his kit wasn’t changed much,but now thanks to the zenkai itself his stats at least can stand up to the meta imo which is really good,and also yellow to deal with ugb. So appreciated overall!👀
@@subashbose2775 ok what is it with y'all slandering evo? You do realize 17 and revui allow him to get that card draw speed and once he kills a unit, he keeps his ramp up since he delays you switching
@@ortanicallity as a team every unit is good. when the team has 17 and ui or Gogeta. but cannot do a major impact on the team or meta as a single unit. out of all the lf zenkai who came recently, he is not that good compared . he will be bench
I think his Timer counts abilities should have an extra effect, maybe some extra damage/damage sustained. Hp and CDS is great, the way they split it up makes me question. Plus the last ability, I think he could have used some extra damage upon entry at least
I remember when it was a debate whether vegeta was better than LF gogeta blue. Now gogeta blue is the meta and vegeta was made to counter gogeta. Fitting
I mean the damag wasn't the problem for evo it was mainly card draw and cover null hopefully they give card draw in his plat so then he can get that same effect as ugb where he gets 2x card draw
@@RealBrit nah he isnt gonna take roshi’s spot on universe reps, Vegeta clan isn’t meta, his only option is God ki and the only other meta blast god ki unit is GRN revival Goku
Im using him as we speak.7 stars,zenkai 7,fully soul boosted.Using him on the leader slot along with 14 star gofrieza,14 star jiren,8 star zenkai 7 purple ui,14 star kyawuei and 14 star kahseral.Mf is the definition of combos and damage.Realky good damage,his ulti is pretty much a guaranteed oneshot if buffed.He has decent tanking.Overall a really good unit still,and my favourite in the game
This was the only zenkai in my account I was looking forward too. My urp was actually meta with this guy added but damn I’ll just dust away into the despair of power creep where I will redownload the game for more beginner summons on 5th anni
I feel like what also sucks is that uni reps the blast based team just has a normal balanced hand none of the blast units carry any double blasts for whatever reason they refuse to make units carry double blasts
Honestly wish the green card buffs where naturally part of his kit and the green was either semi stackable(has a cap) or had a higher multiplier, I really wish he did more but he doesn't feel good enough to be another option on the teams he's on due to the sheer amount of stuff his competitors do
Sad story but when yellow gogeta blue came out I wasted like 10k cuz I have a dedicated fusion team n i deleted the game for like a week or two cuz one, I was pissed, n two my dad needed to borrow my phone while he was away. When I redownloaded it my saved file was basically deleted cuz I never linked my account even tho I remember linking it during the nappa event but IGHT. Lost three years worth of grind pretty sure and trying to get back in the game is hard since Ik i was a baby whale but still bummed out on losing all my zenkais
Yeah 17 is pretty good. Also, Goresh, could you mention how cards behave at lower stars compared to maxed out? Because most people won't have recent characters maxed out, I think it's pretty important. I miss the old tier lists where recent LF releases were at 6* etc... not exactly the case of this Veggy but still, for future reference.
Honestly the only change is stats. If you're in high rank pvp with low star characters then you're gonna get shit on. But rank 50s-early rank 60s you'll be fine
@8Smoker8 Goresh literally does that? 💀 unless he gets the unit like 10 times with the 20k cc he uses per summon video then he's gonna do the showcase at 3-6 stars
HAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH nopeeeeee they fucked him worst LF zenkai of all time hes fucking garbage gets one shot even with his GRN card is active and cant combo for fucking shit no card draw or cover null
This guy has been sitting at 4 stars for a while and I knew he would get a zenjau before I got him to 7 stars..... The exact thing has happened with lf rose and lf ssj4
Now I’m not afraid if rose will be green. Even if u don’t run them together there r 3 yellows in the top 10 and rose being an ultra from battle hour means he’s gonna be crazy good anyway. Every purple loses value tho ugb will still be insane but have more threats. Edit: 4 yellows (roshi evo vt 4ku)
@@horizonsports1250 maybe not rn but in a week or so evos zenkai will be available to everyone who has him above 7 stars and while yellows rnt the most common if rose ends up being green then yellows will naturally be used more to ward off purples. The amount of yellows and ugb losing boost means that ugb will most likely be top 2-3 but not no. 1 tho ur probably running ugb and rose together anyway
You guys do understand that it would be too OP to give a zenkai to a unit that has a unique gauge ability maybe that's why they're not thinking about anything closely related to it
Might be wrong but I think they need to start making units with more defence stats. Like 190 k should be baseline cus with all the units who are doing insane damage. 60 percent defense cut not good enough
If his damage reduction and damage inflicted buffs on his green were stackable and it gave cover null he would be way better. Maybe if hus kit was the same but he had a way to draw a green like he draws a green on entry twice he would be better
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA he is by far the single worst LF zenkai of all time
@@hakzource8660 lmao yeah and zenkai beerus he was so bad on release right hahahaha nope he was too broken for the entire game which was too oppressive so that not good but this zenkai vegeta is the worst on release zenkai LF
People were really downgrading the unit even before its release and I don't understand why. Yes the unit's stats aren't as high as other Zenkai units, but it's like people forgot how this Vegeta's damage stacking works.
I have this guy 14* as well the green card restriction is so pointless and he still cant tank shit outside cover changing type neutral units or PUR, he hits like a truck though but he needed some form of cover null like LF 4Ku and real damage reduction buffs for his passive.
@JimRussels 1. Literal zero combo comp ult and he ate it at Z3 (when units like zamasu are getting smoked and near one shot) 2. Mvp 17 only would heal if he survived said ult smfh, mvp 17 isn't healing a unit if they're dead All of yall talkin out the ass like he doesn't tank
He’s good by virtue of being an LF Zenkai but his kit requires too many awkward conditions to maximize his potential. - 50 COUNTS for a SINGLE level of card draw speed when most new units get at least one level just for breathing - Using the green card for the extra bit of damage reduction (which barely helps ex. That beasthan blue card) - Having a defeated ally and defeating enemies himself
HAHAHAHAHHA AHAHAHAHAHAHJA AHAHAHAHAHAHAH NOOOPE HE CANNOT HE DOESNT DO THAT AT ALL HE CANT COMBO AND DOESNT “ONE SHOT GB” HE IS EASILY THE WORST UNIT OF ALL TIME
Legends try to Zenkai Purple UI Goku challenge (Impossible edition)
They will probably do his zenkai alongside tag gofreiza when they release
I mean he did JUST get a new unit
It will 100 percent be on legendsfest
Legends fanbase try not to beg for Z tier Ultra Gogeta Blue bench buffers challenge (ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!)
Stfu and cry 😭
Respect to the guy at 3:01 for running Powerful opponent. He played really well.
Weakest powerful opponent enjoyer
Honestly looked like a good set up too
@Hazel TheOne He did play well tho. He used ex shenron. Give him a little credit
@@corbkuroski1558ou misunderstood the joke
@@corbkuroski1558 the joke is that he’s the weakest powerful opponent user but he’s massively strong
8:30 that shake in the win pose is cool af
That’s the second glitch to come from ssbe vegetas win screen
@@Hazel_TheOne I assume the first one was the glitching in his eyes
@@Hazel_TheOne yeah, I think its because goku was in the middle of reviving
Since we have been getting some love for Vegeta clan, it’s about time that we finally get an LF final Flash Vegeta. The fact that we still don’t have that is very surprising.
Or that we just have one model of SS4 Vegeta too after almost 5 years.
We still don’t have an lf ssj vegeta from his fight against 19, I’d probably give the priority to that
@@farhanbashar7630 nah we need Jell-O Vegeta
I want them to make lf namek vegeta so badly for som reason
@@Damn.522 dirty fireworks?
16:27 the way beast falls from the sky because of that tap shot 😭.
Balanced, as all things should be.
8:29 the best win screen in the game
that power up in the background so funny
It’s incredible that it’s not even edited or something like that
8:27 was actually sick wtf
8:26 Goku just blows up in the distance 😂
I thought vegeta was radiating his dominance 👀
They really shouldve given him card draw speed after 30 counts also if they timegate it, but nontheless he seems solid. Hard to tell how good he really is going to be tho since its just the start of the season.
Not tanking that beast gohan blue with the GRN card damage reduction is enough for me he fucking sucks and i hate how they always make vegeta so fucking bad in this game
@@brendanwhite4527 IT’S FUCKING BEAST GOHAN
@@theduckking5257 HES FUCKING 4 MONTHS OLD ITS THE NEWEST ZENKAI 7 14* LF WITH HIS MAX DAMAGE REDUCTION HE FUCKING SUCKS
@@brendanwhite4527 say that again bro but slowly
@@brendanwhite4527nah I gotta get some of what Ur smoking
8:08 4.6mill damage includes Vegeta’s strike arts on Gogeta. Which did around 800k give or take.
How do equipment work, do they give every buff in all three slots or it depends on where you put them in ?
@@vegeets3710 all three
@@JC37532 I can't believe I've been using them wrong for a whole year 💀
@vegeets I used to think that too.
@@vegeets3710 just throw yourself in a river.. noob
his zenkai ability is kinda odd to just buff yel vegeta clan (vt tag buff basically) and his kit wasn’t changed much,but now thanks to the zenkai itself his stats at least can stand up to the meta imo which is really good,and also yellow to deal with ugb. So appreciated overall!👀
Wow I remember him coming out like it was yesterday. Crazy
15:07 damn vegeta... What a Mr.Flawless Defense. He lived up to his name. 😮
Vegeta is that guy, he’s HIM
Mr flawless defense back at it again🔥🔥
Evo leader with T/V and Zamasu would be a pretty fun team
Would love to see a video on MUI, Evo Vegeta and full power jiren, to honour the 3 strongest people in the TOP :)
More meta diversity! Really good zenkai
Meta 💀
Now,all we need are some more units to add to Vegeta clan
@@tbone2416 And a unique equipment for T/V
@@tbone2416 T&V with blue f2p trunks and this vegeta could work
It's about time, folks! The UGB counter is here! *NOW YOU'LL FINALLY SEE HIS ALL!!*
nope he is not that good .
@@subashbose2775 fr.
@@subashbose2775 ok what is it with y'all slandering evo? You do realize 17 and revui allow him to get that card draw speed and once he kills a unit, he keeps his ramp up since he delays you switching
@@subashbose2775 Because y'all retards want him to be UGB level
Y'all don't want balanced units
@@ortanicallity as a team every unit is good. when the team has 17 and ui or Gogeta. but cannot do a major impact on the team or meta as a single unit. out of all the lf zenkai who came recently, he is not that good compared . he will be bench
I think his Timer counts abilities should have an extra effect, maybe some extra damage/damage sustained. Hp and CDS is great, the way they split it up makes me question. Plus the last ability, I think he could have used some extra damage upon entry at least
It’s literally a zenkai with 90% dmg already.. and it’s a zenkai..
15:08 Beast Gohan showed why he is Beast 🔥
I remember when it was a debate whether vegeta was better than LF gogeta blue. Now gogeta blue is the meta and vegeta was made to counter gogeta. Fitting
8:28 the opponent's face after what just happened xd
22:58 The opponent really sabotaged the showcase. What a guy. 😭
One of the better zenkai he got what he needed
Nah you’re trolling. he’s mid af he has no spot in any team except a blast base god ki team
If he gained cover null oh his green card then he would’ve been extremely good but cover change meta says other wise
I mean the damag wasn't the problem for evo it was mainly card draw and cover null hopefully they give card draw in his plat so then he can get that same effect as ugb where he gets 2x card draw
@@Danny-lu4wi cap
@@RealBrit nah he isnt gonna take roshi’s spot on universe reps, Vegeta clan isn’t meta, his only option is God ki and the only other meta blast god ki unit is GRN revival Goku
8:28 this is gold lmao
@13:42 I think this is the second time you've played that guy
I like his team strategy.. heavy disruption
23:28 he took the most devious nap after
You say I'm arrogant, I say damn right. That's pride.
Pride in the Saiyan I am
Im using him as we speak.7 stars,zenkai 7,fully soul boosted.Using him on the leader slot along with 14 star gofrieza,14 star jiren,8 star zenkai 7 purple ui,14 star kyawuei and 14 star kahseral.Mf is the definition of combos and damage.Realky good damage,his ulti is pretty much a guaranteed oneshot if buffed.He has decent tanking.Overall a really good unit still,and my favourite in the game
14:22 that homie used green cards like it’s his job and proceeds to rage quit 😂
This was the only zenkai in my account I was looking forward too. My urp was actually meta with this guy added but damn I’ll just dust away into the despair of power creep where I will redownload the game for more beginner summons on 5th anni
The zenkai ain't that good
@@gokublack-san700 its not that it “aint that good” its that he is the single worst LF zenkai on release and he fucking sucks
Breaking news: A unit does more damage after his zenkai
14:56 He doesn't care about pan's ki reduction LOL
Another great 17 showcase🔥🔥😂😂i swear the current meta is impossible to play without 17😁😁
14:20 *gets guessed and proceeds to forfeit* ☠️
He seems really good, but I think he'll be treated like he was on release, one or two showcase videos then forgotten about, forever this time ♾️
8:28 nice 🔥
dawg this vegeta is so nuts, i used him myself and i really think he’s better than the last 2 LF zenkais.
Imagine his green card gives card draw speed as well
8:30 bro was just staring at goku’s transformation lol
Guy really didn’t want to get LF’d in the last match.
nigga think he "won" 💀
I feel like what also sucks is that uni reps the blast based team just has a normal balanced hand none of the blast units carry any double blasts for whatever reason they refuse to make units carry double blasts
Kinda prefer that tbh need some strikes to deal with ugb
Honestly wish the green card buffs where naturally part of his kit and the green was either semi stackable(has a cap) or had a higher multiplier, I really wish he did more but he doesn't feel good enough to be another option on the teams he's on due to the sheer amount of stuff his competitors do
Can’t wait to zenkai my 3* SSBE Vegeta
8:29 the power u sense from evo tho 😮💨
Love from India❤....1st time this fast from me also for me 😂
Perfect scenario with all the vegeta clan and future saga buffs for rage trunks to zenkai 🎉
The "Destroyer" series is back
Sad story but when yellow gogeta blue came out I wasted like 10k cuz I have a dedicated fusion team n i deleted the game for like a week or two cuz one, I was pissed, n two my dad needed to borrow my phone while he was away. When I redownloaded it my saved file was basically deleted cuz I never linked my account even tho I remember linking it during the nappa event but IGHT. Lost three years worth of grind pretty sure and trying to get back in the game is hard since Ik i was a baby whale but still bummed out on losing all my zenkais
Yeah 17 is pretty good. Also, Goresh, could you mention how cards behave at lower stars compared to maxed out? Because most people won't have recent characters maxed out, I think it's pretty important. I miss the old tier lists where recent LF releases were at 6* etc... not exactly the case of this Veggy but still, for future reference.
Wym they behave the lol
@@Blaze_the_cat_ he means like how a unit performs at a certain star level
Honestly the only change is stats. If you're in high rank pvp with low star characters then you're gonna get shit on. But rank 50s-early rank 60s you'll be fine
@@Xenovation3334 yeah but I wanna know how a 3* or 6* new LF compares to a 14* free character or older zenkai.
@8Smoker8 Goresh literally does that? 💀 unless he gets the unit like 10 times with the 20k cc he uses per summon video then he's gonna do the showcase at 3-6 stars
NOW YOU CAN FINALLY SEE HIS ALL!!
I see "Gogeta Blue Destroyer" in the title, and I must see a UGB get OHKO'd now
Yellow rage trunks could use a zenkai
His zenkai is really good! Finally my boy is getting the hype that he deserves.
HAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH nopeeeeee they fucked him worst LF zenkai of all time hes fucking garbage gets one shot even with his GRN card is active and cant combo for fucking shit no card draw or cover null
Another thing also his ult let's him nullify endurance for 15 counts along with the restoring vanish when killing a enemy he's a mini UGB tbh
With those stats he's definitely one of the units of 2023! Bravo Toshi!
Shut up his stats are amazing
@@orion9603 low for an lf zenkai
@@Sinovexx_TM not really, he's pretty good statwise. He's just not in the strongest range.
LF ssj4 Goku literally has similar stats y’all just nit picking
He's top 7 but go on
This guy has been sitting at 4 stars for a while and I knew he would get a zenjau before I got him to 7 stars.....
The exact thing has happened with lf rose and lf ssj4
Love the start of the season teams in the vid.
And even then vegeta looks fucking awful christ imagine actual competitive play jesus fuck hes gonna look even worse than he does now
Truly flawless defence
He’s pretty happy that his SSBE Vegeta unit has 14 stars. Mine only has 3………
There's a new God Ki equip and 4 new awakened unique equips that will be coming out, the unique is shown in the archive
Now I’m not afraid if rose will be green. Even if u don’t run them together there r 3 yellows in the top 10 and rose being an ultra from battle hour means he’s gonna be crazy good anyway. Every purple loses value tho ugb will still be insane but have more threats.
Edit: 4 yellows (roshi evo vt 4ku)
the yellows aren't that oftenly used and i dont think they will. this new release won't stup gogeta imo.
@@horizonsports1250 maybe not rn but in a week or so evos zenkai will be available to everyone who has him above 7 stars and while yellows rnt the most common if rose ends up being green then yellows will naturally be used more to ward off purples. The amount of yellows and ugb losing boost means that ugb will most likely be top 2-3 but not no. 1 tho ur probably running ugb and rose together anyway
@@sanjaynambisan2538 yes that makes sense. it will all depend on how good rose is.
You guys do understand that it would be too OP to give a zenkai to a unit that has a unique gauge ability maybe that's why they're not thinking about anything closely related to it
Might be wrong but I think they need to start making units with more defence stats. Like 190 k should be baseline cus with all the units who are doing insane damage. 60 percent defense cut not good enough
Bruh it's not even a day and Goresh already did his Zenkai....
Wtf?
The power of money lol
If his damage reduction and damage inflicted buffs on his green were stackable and it gave cover null he would be way better. Maybe if hus kit was the same but he had a way to draw a green like he draws a green on entry twice he would be better
Lowkey the first opponent was a better player than Goresh, its just that Goresh pours his life and soul into this game so all his chars are maxed.
who cares kid nobody
I love that he got a zenkai and I'm 200 z power of 👍
Ty for this upload your the goat n love your work. Btw Vegeta gets vanished every time u kill an opponent
Still would’ve loved if they zenkai assist kale and Caulifla their kit could be nice in the meta
I still like using them every now and then
Such a great idea locking his most needed tool after 50 counts, I'll never forgive them for this
I know we'll get at least one more video with him alongside tag trunks and Vegeta
He's looking good. Really good
in your dreams
Finally, a Vegeta that can actually cook
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA he is by far the single worst LF zenkai of all time
@@brendanwhite4527 yeah ok buddy beerus exists
lol…
trash zenkai
@@hakzource8660 lmao yeah and zenkai beerus he was so bad on release right hahahaha nope he was too broken for the entire game which was too oppressive so that not good but this zenkai vegeta is the worst on release zenkai LF
People were really downgrading the unit even before its release and I don't understand why. Yes the unit's stats aren't as high as other Zenkai units, but it's like people forgot how this Vegeta's damage stacking works.
Because he’s pretty shit ngl
@@Duck-ld5xi skill issue 💀
@@asianmoofin yeah that vegeta is a skill issue ngl he requires soo much skill for so little reward
@@Duck-ld5xi Ngl you sound like the average Beast Gohan and Gogeta Blue user
@@asianmoofin and you sound pretty stupid if u think that vegeta is extremely good
9:37
Mui on crack
15:07 LMAOOOOOO 💀💀💀💀
So glad they zenkaid him and not UI Goku
(I have him 7 star and Goku is 6 star)
ssbe vegeta is good and all but he will never be better-
couple hours later...
*i think i underestimated him...*
17:59 finished the match at quite a high threshold for being almost dead not to long before
He heals on main, on green, and after 30 counts, so it makes sense.
I have this guy 14* as well the green card restriction is so pointless and he still cant tank shit outside cover changing type neutral units or PUR, he hits like a truck though but he needed some form of cover null like LF 4Ku and real damage reduction buffs for his passive.
I have him at 12 stars. I can’t wait to try him out at Zenkai 7 in 2 weeks
Vergil used this guy at zenkai 3 and managed to eat a beast han ult with little to no combo comp. It's either your b.s or talking out or ass (or both)
@@wanted2657 bro did u not see when he gets one shot by beast in this video with his grn card up he fucking sucks stop fucking trolling
@@wanted2657 Checked out the vid dude he barely lived it quit talking out your ass especially when he had MVP 17 to heal up otherwise he wouldve died
@JimRussels
1. Literal zero combo comp ult and he ate it at Z3 (when units like zamasu are getting smoked and near one shot)
2. Mvp 17 only would heal if he survived said ult smfh, mvp 17 isn't healing a unit if they're dead
All of yall talkin out the ass like he doesn't tank
LF 4ku defintely owns this fraud
15:08 'flawless defense' 🤓
Tanks better then before nerd 🤓
🤓
14 star beast with 90% dmg inflicted buffs from pan but ok. Any unit is taking that much dmg or dying
@@UghIdfit
Gold player moment
just wondering, when will there be a revisit to super warriors?
the dude running pan with zaha was a douchebag yet he still forfeits when his rush gets guessed. Sums up this game
I don’t mind having the draw speed locked to timer counts but 50??? Should’ve been 15 and 30 for each effect of that ability
Of course he counters UGB he's yellow
Grn Ultra SSR Goku Black confirmed 😯
Love the videos man 💪🏾
The ending bro 😭😭💀
still havent pulled this guy somehow
I RECOMMEND GREEN BASE BARDOCK FOR HIS POWER IS SO GREAT HE DONT NEED NO ZENKAI
Evo Vegeta with yellow Gohan=2 x card draw speed
The zenkai I wanted:
The one who needed it: PUR UI
So you want a Zenkai buff for UGB huh?
@D꒐ꋊꄲꇙ꓄ꋬꋊꉔꏂ I don't have him sadly. But his zenkai buff would be purple univ rep before God ki/saiyans
He’s good by virtue of being an LF Zenkai but his kit requires too many awkward conditions to maximize his potential.
- 50 COUNTS for a SINGLE level of card draw speed when most new units get at least one level just for breathing
- Using the green card for the extra bit of damage reduction (which barely helps ex. That beasthan blue card)
- Having a defeated ally and defeating enemies himself
Me who has vegeta at 7*: cool his zenkai
Also me who only wanted LF ssj4 Goku zenkai and has it at 4*: why am I still here... Just for suffer
When in doubt
17 shows out
the last person was salty for no reason
Favourite unit of 2023 purely because he can eviscerate mr blast powercreep himself.
HAHAHAHAHHA AHAHAHAHAHAHJA AHAHAHAHAHAHAH NOOOPE HE CANNOT HE DOESNT DO THAT AT ALL HE CANT COMBO AND DOESNT “ONE SHOT GB” HE IS EASILY THE WORST UNIT OF ALL TIME
What did they actually do to him?
Just increase his stats and buffs a bit?
I hoped they would make him into great tank or buffer