I'd hate to be a doctor in sports science. Being ethically bound under the Hippocratic oath to rush to the aid of people lifting with poor technique. Must be a real pain in the ass.
In my humble opinion you seem the most genuine person within the online fitness theatre. No bullshit and tinsel just practical advice. Big up to Southampton too. 😊
Thank you for the work you do. I am sending your paper to every influencer who acts like minor technique variations that are essentially identical are absolutely the end of the world because they have nothing original to say otherwise.
Dr. Pak, could you make a video about progression schemes, like double progression? Explaining pros and cons, what you personally like etc. Nice vid btw 👍
Nice video, really enjoyed it. I hope you will continue to put out videos about the really important lifting adjacent stuff that gets glossed over a lot or is underemphasized.
I use far grips but I have very large hands. Dumbbell presses are far more comfortable and shrugs give a good forearm pump while my traps always fatigue first. I don’t use them for dumbbell rows or anything heavy of course.
Why not just do dedicated forearm hypertrophy work vs the random isometric that is also taking away from your bicep training? Also from the official fatgripz website: “Gripz will help you build bigger, stronger arms. They work by wrapping around barbells, dumbbells, cable attachments and exercise machine handles and increasing their diameter.” While showing a guy curling
@@Dr__Pak I mean I kind of agree, but I'm just pointing out that rarely do I hear people using any thick grip implements because they think it helps some mind muscle connection etc, usually it's just for forearms and grip strength. They did work for me about a year ago when doing hammer curls (I got a good bicep AND forearm pump) but recently I noticed they absolutely don't work with incline curls... Specific grip training is indeed beneficial as there's lots of different grip like crush, pinch etc. But I think that when you can hit two birds with one stone, why not do so? I think the question is how much interference is one ready to put up with. A lot of people can't keep upright during a front squat and their back becomes the limiting factor instead of their legs. Person A switches it to hack squat, person B just gets better at front squats. Both build tree trunk legs and I think both are valid routes to take. Though I'd still do dedicated grip training like you said as good crush grip is just one type of grip and you gotta get em all!
Could you please do a video on how to approach programming when we need to use the minimum effective dose for longer periods. Like two years for instance.
From my personal experience I used fat grips in my training and it definitely grew my forearms and increased my grip strength but I did notice a lesser pump in my arms. So I didn’t use them on all bicep exercises.
Fat grips give me a gnarly forearm pump (who'd guess, right?). I do think they work more as intended when the fat grips are specific to your end goal. I wish I had a pair when I was wrestling. 💪
In things like back exercises (lat pull down or rows) the stretched position of muscles is the starting postision, where the weight is just hanging and the muscle isn't really doing work. Does that really cause hypertrophy or am I misunderstanding?
Fat grips are excellent for strongman reasons, practicing for monster dumbbell and axle work in commercial gyms, and really REALLY hard pull-ups. I don't see what a bodybuilder would do with those. Unnecessarily awkward.
What about using fat grips purely for grip strength? I'm a beginner to lifting, and It probably sounds strange but one of the main reasons I began strength training is for grip strength. I have a manufacturing job that requires significant grip endurance and an interest in developing grip for grappling purposes, but I also only have access to relatively light weights due to lack of gym access and living arrangements (living in an apartment the size of many people's bedroom). I'm already using grippers and steel clubs, and doing isometric grip work as well, worth it to add fat grips or no?
No idea if it is placebo. But I use my fat grips for bench because I discovered it removes pressure and pain from my right shoulder. And the pump in my chest feels way bigger then with out. I did have to go down in a weight a bit but chest feels much stronger. I dont use them for curls because it makes my forearm fail faster then your bicep. Used them once for deadlifting also fun experience
I could see fat grips having a benefit on a barbell bench press that wouldn't show itself in a study on biceps curls. If you're touching the bar to your chest, fat grips make you bring the bar down a little further and lengthen your pressing muscles just a little bit more. It would be similar to a Larsen Press, although that exercise doesn't require any additional equipment.
how about fat grips specifically for forearm/grip gains? I'm currently running fat grip hammer curls in my program as an easy superset option specifically for forearm work that'll have a bit of extra bicep volume, thoughts?
Dr Pak, sometimes I take a week off or maybe 2 weeks of very low volume when I don't really get DOMS anymore (like basically zero DOMS). I have heard about the concept of "resensitizing" from some of your collegues and think I read it in Schoenfeld's textbook too (if I'm not mistaken). My question is, do you think when you start to feel almost no DOMS anymore that it is a sign for deloading to resensitize, or should I not care about that at all?
Hmm fat gripz... I love them... What I'll do now is instead of 3 sets is do 2 sets with fat gripz and then 2 sets without fat gripz! Hovis Best of Both hopefully!
^ exactly that or literally a hundred other alternatives versus trying to force the extra 1-2cm ROM on barbell bench press. You could literally do deep dips or push ups with an huge deficit etc etx
you missed the point on periodization and tracking, it is for checking progress and potentially fixing problems without wasting months and not seeing a problem. Also all sports use periodization to force a reset or refresh at least mentally and let the body heal, not doing so until you get an injury or burn out sounds stupid to me. agreed no magic to 8 or 12 weeks.
I agree with your points but i don't think he's talking to serious athletes.... since their coaches program for them anyway, usually. I think of this as a hobbyist channel, i don't think he's trying to talk to elite athletes on RUclips. Most people in the gym don't know that periodization means....
to the editor: changing angle every 5 seconds is off putting brah. unless your audience is people who have brain rot and have 2 seconds of max concentration. At this point, it takes away. Please do it less. Thank you. :)
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I'd hate to be a doctor in sports science.
Being ethically bound under the Hippocratic oath to rush to the aid of people lifting with poor technique.
Must be a real pain in the ass.
It’s a hard job but someone has to do it
Pak in a wolf’s clothing!
In my humble opinion you seem the most genuine person within the online fitness theatre. No bullshit and tinsel just practical advice. Big up to Southampton too. 😊
Keeping it real and simple again, appreciate it ρε.
Thank you for the work you do. I am sending your paper to every influencer who acts like minor technique variations that are essentially identical are absolutely the end of the world because they have nothing original to say otherwise.
Send it to dr mike💀
Wolf Pak
Dr. Pak, could you make a video about progression schemes, like double progression? Explaining pros and cons, what you personally like etc. Nice vid btw 👍
Thank you, doctor Pak! My favourite doctor. An actual doctor...
Just like my colleague, Dr. Dre.
@@Dr__Pak 😁
@@Dr__Pak Dr. Oetker is also good when you need a pizza prescription.
Nice video, really enjoyed it. I hope you will continue to put out videos about the really important lifting adjacent stuff that gets glossed over a lot or is underemphasized.
I use far grips but I have very large hands. Dumbbell presses are far more comfortable and shrugs give a good forearm pump while my traps always fatigue first.
I don’t use them for dumbbell rows or anything heavy of course.
I like them both. Also the humour, almost on the same level as the black humour of RP 😂
A breath of fresh air in the science community
Finally some clarity !
dr bossman pumpin up these videos. hell yeah!
But aren't the Fat Grips mainly used exactly to increase grip strength and forearm gains?
Yeah, but there was a time where some people ( eric bughenhagen , vegan gains etc) were saying that using fat grips help with bicep hypertrophy.
Why not just do dedicated forearm hypertrophy work vs the random isometric that is also taking away from your bicep training?
Also from the official fatgripz website:
“Gripz will help you build bigger, stronger arms. They work by wrapping around barbells, dumbbells, cable attachments and exercise machine handles and increasing their diameter.”
While showing a guy curling
@@MrAxileas Yeah, even though I'm a big Bugez fan I admit it was a weird take 😂 but he's an experiment
@@Dr__Pak I mean I kind of agree, but I'm just pointing out that rarely do I hear people using any thick grip implements because they think it helps some mind muscle connection etc, usually it's just for forearms and grip strength.
They did work for me about a year ago when doing hammer curls (I got a good bicep AND forearm pump) but recently I noticed they absolutely don't work with incline curls...
Specific grip training is indeed beneficial as there's lots of different grip like crush, pinch etc. But I think that when you can hit two birds with one stone, why not do so? I think the question is how much interference is one ready to put up with. A lot of people can't keep upright during a front squat and their back becomes the limiting factor instead of their legs. Person A switches it to hack squat, person B just gets better at front squats. Both build tree trunk legs and I think both are valid routes to take.
Though I'd still do dedicated grip training like you said as good crush grip is just one type of grip and you gotta get em all!
Could you please do a video on how to approach programming when we need to use the minimum effective dose for longer periods. Like two years for instance.
KISS and consistensy. Love it!
"Take a week of when feeling absolutely shit" got me laughing 😂.
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From my personal experience I used fat grips in my training and it definitely grew my forearms and increased my grip strength but I did notice a lesser pump in my arms. So I didn’t use them on all bicep exercises.
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He just gave me the idea to use fat grips on my wrist curls as another variation. Poli agapi apo to Montréal.
Fat grips give me a gnarly forearm pump (who'd guess, right?). I do think they work more as intended when the fat grips are specific to your end goal. I wish I had a pair when I was wrestling. 💪
In things like back exercises (lat pull down or rows) the stretched position of muscles is the starting postision, where the weight is just hanging and the muscle isn't really doing work. Does that really cause hypertrophy or am I misunderstanding?
DR. MILO PAK
Fat grips are excellent for strongman reasons, practicing for monster dumbbell and axle work in commercial gyms, and really REALLY hard pull-ups. I don't see what a bodybuilder would do with those. Unnecessarily awkward.
What about using fat grips purely for grip strength? I'm a beginner to lifting, and It probably sounds strange but one of the main reasons I began strength training is for grip strength. I have a manufacturing job that requires significant grip endurance and an interest in developing grip for grappling purposes, but I also only have access to relatively light weights due to lack of gym access and living arrangements (living in an apartment the size of many people's bedroom).
I'm already using grippers and steel clubs, and doing isometric grip work as well, worth it to add fat grips or no?
No idea if it is placebo. But I use my fat grips for bench because I discovered it removes pressure and pain from my right shoulder. And the pump in my chest feels way bigger then with out. I did have to go down in a weight a bit but chest feels much stronger.
I dont use them for curls because it makes my forearm fail faster then your bicep. Used them once for deadlifting also fun experience
I could see fat grips having a benefit on a barbell bench press that wouldn't show itself in a study on biceps curls. If you're touching the bar to your chest, fat grips make you bring the bar down a little further and lengthen your pressing muscles just a little bit more. It would be similar to a Larsen Press, although that exercise doesn't require any additional equipment.
Same. Virtually every strongman uses Fat grips or axle for floor press.
how about fat grips specifically for forearm/grip gains? I'm currently running fat grip hammer curls in my program as an easy superset option specifically for forearm work that'll have a bit of extra bicep volume, thoughts?
If you want forearm gains, do dedicated forearm hypertrophy work, not grip work. (Replying in general not directly to you)
@@Dr__Pak thanks!
Dr Pak, sometimes I take a week off or maybe 2 weeks of very low volume when I don't really get DOMS anymore (like basically zero DOMS). I have heard about the concept of "resensitizing" from some of your collegues and think I read it in Schoenfeld's textbook too (if I'm not mistaken). My question is, do you think when you start to feel almost no DOMS anymore that it is a sign for deloading to resensitize, or should I not care about that at all?
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Hmm fat gripz... I love them...
What I'll do now is instead of 3 sets is do
2 sets with fat gripz and then
2 sets without fat gripz! Hovis Best of Both hopefully!
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Please continue preaching whatever religion this is, I'm a convert. (Science based religion tho)
How about fat gripz for benchpress to increase range of motion? 🤔
That's an interesting idea...
My mind has just been exploded by this 🤯
You clever sausage.
pretty cool idea but why not just do a dumbell press? It goes even lower
^ exactly that or literally a hundred other alternatives versus trying to force the extra 1-2cm ROM on barbell bench press. You could literally do deep dips or push ups with an huge deficit etc etx
remember i brought up “wolf x pak” first
It’s a bag brand unfortunately☹️
fat grips feel good on my palms when doing dips … pause
you missed the point on periodization and tracking, it is for checking progress and potentially fixing problems without wasting months and not seeing a problem. Also all sports use periodization to force a reset or refresh at least mentally and let the body heal, not doing so until you get an injury or burn out sounds stupid to me. agreed no magic to 8 or 12 weeks.
I agree with your points but i don't think he's talking to serious athletes.... since their coaches program for them anyway, usually. I think of this as a hobbyist channel, i don't think he's trying to talk to elite athletes on RUclips. Most people in the gym don't know that periodization means....
Exactly that ^ + there is no way you won’t know if you’re making progress even if you’re not meticulously tracking or planning ahead
Tach noze plz 😜
"Promo sm"
to the editor: changing angle every 5 seconds is off putting brah. unless your audience is people who have brain rot and have 2 seconds of max concentration. At this point, it takes away. Please do it less. Thank you. :)