I had the i7 975 running around 4.8Ghz for a long time. Very good CPUs when those came out. Moved to 4790K later. That lasted longer than it should have (this last 2024 summer) and probably will still perform good. I put that into a PC for grandson, moved myself to the 12400F, very satisfied with that.
Good video. I ran a Dell workstation socket 1366 with a stock Xeon 5650 (6c/12t) for about 7yrs. I realized it was a bottleneck when upgraded my video card from a gtx 1060 6gb to a rtx 2060 and my fps didn't change at all in most games. I then upgraded my whole system to a Ryzen 5 3600 and my fps massively increased in some games.
I know that feeling all too well. When I upgraded from my 1080 Ti to my 3080, some games didn't massively jump up in performance (3950X). Upgraded to my 13700K and unlocked around 25% performance on average
Wish you tried to OC it a bit and see if that helps in worst cases. 3.8-4.1GHz with good cooler should be possible (+ tweaks on UnCore and to RAM speed could net overall +25 or even +30% speed increases).
@@ProYamYamPC Just FYI : Some Core i7s of 1-st gen are limited to x10 multiplier on memory (even if board claims it can set higher). In other words, to get over 1333MT/s - you have to overclock BCLK bus to 160MHz minimum. Another pitfall is tRFC which was tweaked for early DDR3, and just isn't loose/high enough to keep high density chips stable. It's best to check JEDEC/XMP profile and manually set timings. Modern XMP profile (for Sandy/Haswell), may not work at all (due to garbage IMC settings, that don't expect Nehalem class CPU).
Good old X58, brings back good memory´s. I was on X58 for twelve years bofore moving on to AMD Zen 3. It was an insanly longlived platform. These cpu´s overclock like nothing you would se today. Both my I7 920 and I7 980X could do 4.4 ghz all core oc for daily use. 980X i even had up to 4,75 GHz for benchmarks and it was done on aircooling.. A really fun platform to overclock. I started out with a I7 920 on a Asus Rampage 2 extreme board and 6 GB ram and GTX 285 3-way sli. My last configuration was an apselute blast. I7 980X oc to 4.4 Ghz, Asus P6X58D Premium mobo, 12 gb 1600 MHz ddr3 ram in tripple channel, GTX 1080 TI and a Samsung 950 PRO NVMe ssd. That was an apselute blast to use and game on.
@@ProYamYamPC It would be neat to see how it stacks against its own revision, the i7 860, which released the following year (2009). Back then I think I was still running a C2D E6600. I wound up getting a huge deal on a motherboard, CPU and cooler combo back in 2013, and the included CPU was the i7 990X (from 2011). I was keeping up in terms of raw compute power right up until about Kaby Lake (7th Gen), then the gap widened, the missing instructions needed kept growing, and the new chips were more efficient while the little space-heater kept guzzling power. Still, I remember how the 990X absolutely stomped the Phenom II 1100T and the later FX-4350... basically it wasn't until about Zen 2 of the same comparison that AMD began to finally pull away from Intel. X58 was truly ahead of its time... Intel could really use another architectural breakthrough (like X58 was for its time) right about now.
I7 2600k aged a lot better than his predessesor, almost the same story with the FX 8xxx prosessors. I still have my 2600k in a second pc with a p8z68 asus motherboard(best there is), because it was a hassle to sell it at least somewhat favorable price even in 2018, so I just kept it.
@@ProYamYamPC I will watch that, I promise you. And then compare it to a 7900XTX or 6800XT or even a 6700XT on that Core2 Duo. That would be a meme worthy video.
I have an HP z800 workstation with 2 x5690 xeon (x58) installed, I bought the hp in 2015 and used it for gaming and work until 2022. I recently upgraded it to win 11 but unfortunately it is unusable in modern games because of PCIe 2.0 and only an 8 pin power for the GPU. I made a Frankenstein build with an external power supply but unfortunately it can't even handle an RTX 4070 at 1440p anymore, but what impressed me is that you can open Stalker 2 and even play without any problems at 80-100% CPU usage
I used a Core 2 Quad Q9400 at 3.2Ghz on a Zalman cooler for a short while in 2015. I did some work (gaming) with a Windforce GTX 660. In all actuality, lowest I'd go in 2024 is a 4th gen i5 (4590 to be exact) and even that would hurt in a few games. Best just stretch for a 4770/90 or a Xeon.
"...if you have an x58 motherboard lying around..." Yes indeed I do and it has served me very well as my main rig since 2008. I'm not a gamer. I will upgrade it to Windows 11 sometime in 2025/26 time frame. 😂 I started with the i7 920 and currently it has the Xeon W3680 with 48 gigs of RAM. I still don't see a need to upgrade just yet.
The thing this review shows the cleares: CS2 is a broken game with unreasonably high CPU usage for basically no benefits over CS:Go. And the i7: held up pretty decently.
X58 was a great platform its just a shame that the cpu's for it didn't support AVX instructions. If you are building a older system today go for X79 or even better X99.
Well frame rate is cpu bound, settings are gpu bound, so at the beginning on cyberpunk, you had gpu almost 100% while cpu was just below 90%, with some setting dropped to medium you could've eased that slight gpu bottleneck and maybe squeezed 45-46 fps, maybe even 47, instead of the 40-42 you got
You need to overclock these CPUs to get not mileage out of it, especially nowadays. Sure it's not a magic pill but you get a considerable performance boost. All xeons on this socket are unlocked too so with good cooling you can go to town with them.
1366 is ok good i buit my uncle pc rexenty with i7 920 4gb ram 7200gs 64mb(!no its not tot gaming) Uses it for basic web browsing does the job i pit 240gig ssd boot drive sata
@ProYamYamPC Thanks!! Right now I'm playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault Warchest all maxed out, and only encountering frame drops in a few areas! :D
I would still be using my 2nd and 3rd gen Core cpus if they didn't have some of the worst vulnerabilities I ever personally had to deal with. Great cpus though still if you don't let em touch the internet.
@@ProYamYamPC well yeah that was a problem cuz i was one of like a handful of people who found it on accident. i was just starting to learn to code and found it doing my very first project. so the attacker did have access lol
And yes, it would be worse because the load would be greater on the CPU. At the time there was an application that allowed you to change pre-rendering fps "nvidia profile" When going from 4 standards to 2, performance increased a lot, I used a sli GTX 260 and sli GTX 560TI 448
I had the i7 975 running around 4.8Ghz for a long time. Very good CPUs when those came out. Moved to 4790K later. That lasted longer than it should have (this last 2024 summer) and probably will still perform good. I put that into a PC for grandson, moved myself to the 12400F, very satisfied with that.
4770 and 4790 have avx2 instructions, and its the oldest i7 and 4c8t cpu I would recommend 👍
Nice upgrade there. Haswell has aged like fine wine, especially the K chips. They're still great for budget machines
currently gaming on a 4790k, no complaints yet 😂
Good video. I ran a Dell workstation socket 1366 with a stock Xeon 5650 (6c/12t) for about 7yrs. I realized it was a bottleneck when upgraded my video card from a gtx 1060 6gb to a rtx 2060 and my fps didn't change at all in most games. I then upgraded my whole system to a Ryzen 5 3600 and my fps massively increased in some games.
I know that feeling all too well. When I upgraded from my 1080 Ti to my 3080, some games didn't massively jump up in performance (3950X). Upgraded to my 13700K and unlocked around 25% performance on average
Wish you tried to OC it a bit and see if that helps in worst cases.
3.8-4.1GHz with good cooler should be possible (+ tweaks on UnCore and to RAM speed could net overall +25 or even +30% speed increases).
I tried to OC the RAM but it wasn’t having it. When I get the Xeon, I’m pushing that for sure
@@ProYamYamPC Just FYI : Some Core i7s of 1-st gen are limited to x10 multiplier on memory (even if board claims it can set higher). In other words, to get over 1333MT/s - you have to overclock BCLK bus to 160MHz minimum. Another pitfall is tRFC which was tweaked for early DDR3, and just isn't loose/high enough to keep high density chips stable. It's best to check JEDEC/XMP profile and manually set timings. Modern XMP profile (for Sandy/Haswell), may not work at all (due to garbage IMC settings, that don't expect Nehalem class CPU).
Give a xeon 6c a go next with a wee overclock surely 😉 great video bro
I sure will, there's more tutorials on how to OC the Xeons as they were more OC friendly🫡
@ProYamYamPC hell yeah man I'll be sure to watch! Keep up the great work man
@ thanks brother🙏 I appreciate it🫡
Good old X58, brings back good memory´s. I was on X58 for twelve years bofore moving on to AMD Zen 3. It was an insanly longlived platform. These cpu´s overclock like nothing you would se today. Both my I7 920 and I7 980X could do 4.4 ghz all core oc for daily use. 980X i even had up to 4,75 GHz for benchmarks and it was done on aircooling.. A really fun platform to overclock.
I started out with a I7 920 on a Asus Rampage 2 extreme board and 6 GB ram and GTX 285 3-way sli. My last configuration was an apselute blast. I7 980X oc to 4.4 Ghz, Asus P6X58D Premium mobo, 12 gb 1600 MHz ddr3 ram in tripple channel, GTX 1080 TI and a Samsung 950 PRO NVMe ssd. That was an apselute blast to use and game on.
Dude, wasn't the 920 the first i7?
Yeah kinda. That and the 940 launched on the same day. You could make a case for either
@@ProYamYamPC It would be neat to see how it stacks against its own revision, the i7 860, which released the following year (2009). Back then I think I was still running a C2D E6600.
I wound up getting a huge deal on a motherboard, CPU and cooler combo back in 2013, and the included CPU was the i7 990X (from 2011).
I was keeping up in terms of raw compute power right up until about Kaby Lake (7th Gen), then the gap widened, the missing instructions needed kept growing, and the new chips were more efficient while the little space-heater kept guzzling power.
Still, I remember how the 990X absolutely stomped the Phenom II 1100T and the later FX-4350... basically it wasn't until about Zen 2 of the same comparison that AMD began to finally pull away from Intel.
X58 was truly ahead of its time... Intel could really use another architectural breakthrough (like X58 was for its time) right about now.
860 was a lesser cpu. Trust me I know, I bought because at the time I couldn’t afford the 920
I7 2600k aged a lot better than his predessesor, almost the same story with the FX 8xxx prosessors. I still have my 2600k in a second pc with a p8z68 asus motherboard(best there is), because it was a hassle to sell it at least somewhat favorable price even in 2018, so I just kept it.
The 2600K is the goat thats why. God tier CPU🔥
Would be great to see the slideshow when pairing this up with a 4090
I might be pairing my 3080 with a Core 2 Duo/Quad soon🤣
@@ProYamYamPC I will watch that, I promise you.
And then compare it to a 7900XTX or 6800XT or even a 6700XT on that Core2 Duo.
That would be a meme worthy video.
I have an HP z800 workstation with 2 x5690 xeon (x58) installed, I bought the hp in 2015 and used it for gaming and work until 2022. I recently upgraded it to win 11 but unfortunately it is unusable in modern games because of PCIe 2.0 and only an 8 pin power for the GPU. I made a Frankenstein build with an external power supply but unfortunately it can't even handle an RTX 4070 at 1440p anymore, but what impressed me is that you can open Stalker 2 and even play without any problems at 80-100% CPU usage
I used a Core 2 Quad Q9400 at 3.2Ghz on a Zalman cooler for a short while in 2015. I did some work (gaming) with a Windforce GTX 660. In all actuality, lowest I'd go in 2024 is a 4th gen i5 (4590 to be exact) and even that would hurt in a few games. Best just stretch for a 4770/90 or a Xeon.
Great test mate. Missed opportunity to bring it to its knees with some of the worst CPU optimized games, like Dragon's Dogma II or STALKER 2
Judging from RDR2 and CS2, they would have been measured in seconds per frame🤣
"...if you have an x58 motherboard lying around..." Yes indeed I do and it has served me very well as my main rig since 2008. I'm not a gamer. I will upgrade it to Windows 11 sometime in 2025/26 time frame. 😂
I started with the i7 920 and currently it has the Xeon W3680 with 48 gigs of RAM.
I still don't see a need to upgrade just yet.
Solid stuff mate! Glad to see older hardware get used. When I was using this 940 system it felt snappy enough on a Samsung 850 EVO.
The thing this review shows the cleares:
CS2 is a broken game with unreasonably high CPU usage for basically no benefits over CS:Go.
And the i7: held up pretty decently.
I agree, it’s arbitrarily hard to run for minimal gain in terms of quality/gameplay
X58 was a great platform its just a shame that the cpu's for it didn't support AVX instructions. If you are building a older system today go for X79 or even better X99.
X99 is the modern goat imo
How about a vid with one of the goat? 2500k, cheap as chips now. or even 3770k?
Could be something I can work on in the new year, lots of ideas are floating around🫡
Well frame rate is cpu bound, settings are gpu bound, so at the beginning on cyberpunk, you had gpu almost 100% while cpu was just below 90%, with some setting dropped to medium you could've eased that slight gpu bottleneck and maybe squeezed 45-46 fps, maybe even 47, instead of the 40-42 you got
Even then a Haswell Xeon isn't much more and many games would benefit from the Hyperthreading. Haswell is one of Intel's best ever generations
Heard the accent and was so confused. Feels weird seeing a content creator who's from my ends
You need to overclock these CPUs to get not mileage out of it, especially nowadays. Sure it's not a magic pill but you get a considerable performance boost. All xeons on this socket are unlocked too so with good cooling you can go to town with them.
you can get the i7 965 for cheap and that's unlocked and does like 4ghz.
Instead of x5650 go for x5675, pretty much the same price on AliEx and it has higher clock.
No single player story driven linear benchmark?
Erm, Cyberpunk, GTA V, RDR2, The Witcher 3?
1366 is ok good i buit my uncle pc rexenty with i7 920 4gb ram 7200gs 64mb(!no its not tot gaming)
Uses it for basic web browsing does the job i pit 240gig ssd boot drive sata
These X58 systems are still great for browsing. Windows 10 felt snappy on a Samsung 850 EVO
I watching this on my gaming PC, featuring an original Intel Core i7-920 and a 1050 ti.
Nice build!
@ProYamYamPC Thanks!! Right now I'm playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault Warchest all maxed out, and only encountering frame drops in a few areas! :D
let's compare it with i7 980 or 990X
I would still be using my 2nd and 3rd gen Core cpus if they didn't have some of the worst vulnerabilities I ever personally had to deal with. Great cpus though still if you don't let em touch the internet.
Are you referring to Spectre? Because the attacker needs physical access to your PC. And if that's the case you've got bigger issues
@@ProYamYamPC well yeah that was a problem cuz i was one of like a handful of people who found it on accident. i was just starting to learn to code and found it doing my very first project. so the attacker did have access lol
720p cpu lol
720p would make the performance worse due to being so CPU bound
@@ProYamYamPC I didn't even think.Ups
At the time, the standard resolution was 720p, which is why I said what I said.
Don't take it the wrong way
And yes, it would be worse because the load would be greater on the CPU.
At the time there was an application that allowed you to change pre-rendering fps "nvidia profile"
When going from 4 standards to 2, performance increased a lot, I used a sli GTX 260 and sli GTX 560TI 448
FIRST!!
NOT TRUE!!! I own the ORIGINAL i7! the i7 890/890x is the true original!
Not true, the i7 920 & 940 launched on the 17th November 2008. The i7 890 launched on the 8th September 2009. You're off by almost a year.