Vando has had lower leg and foot injuries with the Lakers, Jazz, and Timberwolves. A female Jazz reporter warned Laker fans that he's hurt a lot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense if you're not available to play it
He’s had foot injuries in College this is why he went so low in the draft. This is concerning for the Lakers they have guys that are currently dead weight in value. Dlo,JHS,Vando & Wood. Atleast Cam salvage his career on a moment. Lakers might need to move Rui or Max to get even greater value in return. Which is unfortunate i rly like Rui 3pt shooting and versatility on the offense
Even if he came back tomorrow. He'd still need 10-15 games minimum to get up to speed. Like at a certain point in time we're gonna run outta time for a guy who got played off the floor in the postseason.
So guys, spur surgery is no joke. The reason he's still out is probably because he had significant amount of spurs. This means they had to detach/reattach his Achilles tendons. That's the reason for the very slow ramp time. They're trying to save his career
He’s not needed right now. When I heard from Rob about the double surgery, I knew he wouldn’t be back until early 2025. Opening night optimism was wildly out of proportion. Vando is as injury prone as Kawhi. Beware of the silent types and injuries. 😂
Bro is cooked. The front office has to look at the options. He’s a good roll player but playing 27 games this season will not help the team. chemistry and rotation issues.
14:00 Exactly. The dude has been out for almost a full calendar year. I think we need to move on from him whichever way is possible. Even if he comes back he is either not gonna be 100% for a while and even if he gets back to being that level, he will be hurt again real soon. He is just an injury prone guy. The Wolves had him and a couple other wings and he was the one they decided to let go. They must have known something. Even Ant telling him he has been injured for years. We need to move on from Vando. I am tired of having these never ending injury prone guys on the Lakers this decade.
Didn't Lebron have a foot issue a couple of yrs ago, and brought in his "special" doctor and was back on the court relatively quickly?..WTF is up with this training staff!!....We need Vando...badly!!!
Lebron is built different, when are people going to understand that ? Y’all think he’s the only player spending thousands or even millions on his body and doing everything to be in the best shape possible ? You think Kobe wasn’t like that ? You think Giannis isn’t like that ? You think KD or Cp3 aren’t like that ? Even Kawhi has an elite work ethic according to his peers .. Lebron is just built different, just like Kareem or Karl Malone
I agree with Andy regarding Dlo, and maybe the only one. Not necessarily in the context of tonight's discussion, but the general and nauseous debate about Russell's value. He was and IS of significant value to the Lakers, and WITHOUT him, they don't MAKE the playoffs last year, yet he's blamed for their exits. That bs pisses me off greatly.
We have been "Kendrick Nunned" with Vando. It was clear in training camp that when he was out this long and there are no real reports about him, or only vague reports, that the guy is not coming back anytime soon. I figured all along he would not play in 2024 and now I think it is unlikely he will play this season at all. I am waiting for the report that he is undergoing season ending surgery. By the way, I think Christian Wood may be in this same situation Rob P. should have anticipated this over the summer. Between the unplayable guys on the roster (JHS, Lewis and Bronny) and the injured players Vando and Wood, the Lakers only have a ten man roster The team is off to a good start but the lack of depth has got to catch up with them at some point.
Lineup/Rotation Thoughts: We have 5-1 Way Players on Our Team (Off: AR/Rui/Knecht/Def: Cam/Vando). AR will be a Starter the remainder of the LBJ 👑 LAker Era so, We have to Pair AD/LBJ/AR with 2-Way Players however, bcuz We don’t have any of those, We need 1 Off Player & 1 Def Player on the Court. My Suggestion: Start Cam/Rui and bring Knecht off the Bench for LBJ @ that 5/6 min Mark in the 1/3 Qtr. When Vando returns, consider starting Vando/Knecht with Rui being that 1st Sub for LBJ @ PF which, is His Natural Position. However, We NEED Rui to continue to Average 15+/5+!!!
Vanderbilt and reddish in the starting lineup with AD will make us the best defensive team in the league. With the way our offense is flowing on most nights and having a real shooter in knecht now it’s not an oversight to say realistically we’re a top 3 team in the west. I’d put us right there with Denver and OKC for favorites to make the finals. I think Boston, NY, Cleveland, OKC, LAL, and Denver are the only possible championship teams this season. Potentially the warriors, wolves, or suns but I doubt it
Their just trying not to make the same decision as Darwin Ham had to because they were losing. He means so much to this roster they rushed him back and he never fully healed. Lakers needs him at 90% with enough time to get this new offense down and to get back into game shape. It’s still enough time for that. Feet problems are very delicate situations, in everyday life and especially when it comes to sports. The facts there were no setbacks is the best news. Trust me he’s one of my favorite players.#Mr TRUST the PROCESS!!!!!
Question for you guys, with players having their own medical specialties - how much does teams medical actually impact the players recovery? Are they consulted with or driving recovery plan? Likely a partnership?? Thanks for insight. LW
Jarred Vanderbilt. The lack of transparency to me suggests that there might be a disagreement between Vando's doctors and the Lakers doctors. Rob P can't speak to medical issues. The only person who can address the medical situation is Vando. Lakers and fans want a conclusion. Agree with Brian. Time to move on from Vando, player X. Gail Goodrich.
We do not need Lavine. I’m over him. Knecht is a far better shooter. You need an athletic 2 way guard/wing and a physical big that can rebound a rim protect
Here's what I think. Social media is the culprit. LBJ announced today that he'd be on hiatus from social media....citing the rash of "fans" accusing him of lying about having watched Knecht @ UT. The point I make is that players, management and ownership, tire of whiny ass, know nothing or know everything, bratty, juvenile, sophomoric "fans." As a franchise, you WANT support from your base, but not "fanatics." You can't "train" these imbeciles to be "happy and surprised", they're way too spoiled....and it's throughout the league in every support base. My advice/solution? Get over it, it ain't changin'
Lakers front office meddling again, influencing team doctors to keep pushing Vando timeline back.Oh well, with Knecht shooting so well who needs perimeter defense😂...🤷
Hey Andy / Brian, would either of you consider trading Vando given this recent injury history? I for one would pull that trigger yet I love Vando. Problem is given his foot problems to date, NO ONE wants damaged goods. But I’d like to package Vando, Wood, JHS, Lewis, Gabe, plus a couple of picks, a combination of any or all of them and try for a DFS, or Mr.Bridges from the Hornets, or Jonas, Kuzma, maybe 2 of these names…..then hustle and bring back Lonnie Walker IV. What are your thoughts? Vando is done. Great Team guy. Plays 1000% but too injured. Nunn. Vincent. Lakers medical staff SUCKS.
@@lamarbenavides1934you dunno basket ball. A couple picks? We only have two picks. What about a back up Center? You're already offloading Wood & Vando!
I need to know why is lakers players always diagnosed with these same injuries! I will think the lakers will be having their players seen by the best! Is it me that only see that lakers players seems to always have the most odd injuries!? wtf!? 🤬 😳 is going on? Talk to us ass fans, do not counsel us as fans!
Vando has had lower leg and foot injuries with the Lakers, Jazz, and Timberwolves. A female Jazz reporter warned Laker fans that he's hurt a lot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense if you're not available to play it
The greatest ability is, AVAILABILITY.
Without THAT, YOU SUCK 😢
He’s had foot injuries in College this is why he went so low in the draft. This is concerning for the Lakers they have guys that are currently dead weight in value. Dlo,JHS,Vando & Wood. Atleast Cam salvage his career on a moment. Lakers might need to move Rui or Max to get even greater value in return. Which is unfortunate i rly like Rui 3pt shooting and versatility on the offense
@@Cobards24how is dlo dead weight if he is actually contributing?
If vando could stay healthy he would make a first team all defense. Teams will continue to take chances on that hoping he can do that for them.
Even if he came back tomorrow. He'd still need 10-15 games minimum to get up to speed. Like at a certain point in time we're gonna run outta time for a guy who got played off the floor in the postseason.
Why have we extended Vando in the summer while we could have waited? Every small decision we made just left us with limited room to maneuver…
Fire Pelinka
So guys, spur surgery is no joke. The reason he's still out is probably because he had significant amount of spurs. This means they had to detach/reattach his Achilles tendons. That's the reason for the very slow ramp time. They're trying to save his career
He’s not needed right now. When I heard from Rob about the double surgery, I knew he wouldn’t be back until early 2025. Opening night optimism was wildly out of proportion. Vando is as injury prone as Kawhi. Beware of the silent types and injuries. 😂
Bro is cooked. The front office has to look at the options. He’s a good roll player but playing 27 games this season will not help the team. chemistry and rotation issues.
ROLE
Cut Vando off the roster!!!
His basketball career is over !!!
14:00 Exactly. The dude has been out for almost a full calendar year. I think we need to move on from him whichever way is possible. Even if he comes back he is either not gonna be 100% for a while and even if he gets back to being that level, he will be hurt again real soon. He is just an injury prone guy. The Wolves had him and a couple other wings and he was the one they decided to let go. They must have known something. Even Ant telling him he has been injured for years. We need to move on from Vando. I am tired of having these never ending injury prone guys on the Lakers this decade.
Glenn Rice was probably one of last great shooters we had
Why is this Vando hogging a roster spot. No point he is always hurt.....🤔
“If you like feet that have lived, so to speak” lmaoooo 😂
I agree with you Brian we'll figure it out later JUST WIN BABY
Didn't Lebron have a foot issue a couple of yrs ago, and brought in his "special" doctor and was back on the court relatively quickly?..WTF is up with this training staff!!....We need Vando...badly!!!
Lebron is built different, when are people going to understand that ? Y’all think he’s the only player spending thousands or even millions on his body and doing everything to be in the best shape possible ? You think Kobe wasn’t like that ? You think Giannis isn’t like that ? You think KD or Cp3 aren’t like that ? Even Kawhi has an elite work ethic according to his peers .. Lebron is just built different, just like Kareem or Karl Malone
Or the foot injury was fake
I agree with Andy regarding Dlo, and maybe the only one. Not necessarily in the context of tonight's discussion, but the general and nauseous debate about Russell's value. He was and IS of significant value to the Lakers, and WITHOUT him, they don't MAKE the playoffs last year, yet he's blamed for their exits. That bs pisses me off greatly.
He was also the worst starter on either team in both Nuggets series. He also averaged like 10 points on crappy efficiency and was hunted on defense
We have been "Kendrick Nunned" with Vando. It was clear in training camp that when he was out this long and there are no real reports about him, or only vague reports, that the guy is not coming back anytime soon. I figured all along he would not play in 2024 and now I think it is unlikely he will play this season at all. I am waiting for the report that he is undergoing season ending surgery. By the way, I think Christian Wood may be in this same situation Rob P. should have anticipated this over the summer. Between the unplayable guys on the roster (JHS, Lewis and Bronny) and the injured players Vando and Wood, the Lakers only have a ten man roster The team is off to a good start but the lack of depth has got to catch up with them at some point.
That was good Andy delving into the Archives 😂😂😂
Lineup/Rotation Thoughts: We have 5-1 Way Players on Our Team (Off: AR/Rui/Knecht/Def: Cam/Vando). AR will be a Starter the remainder of the LBJ 👑 LAker Era so, We have to Pair AD/LBJ/AR with 2-Way Players however, bcuz We don’t have any of those, We need 1 Off Player & 1 Def Player on the Court.
My Suggestion: Start Cam/Rui and bring Knecht off the Bench for LBJ @ that 5/6 min Mark in the 1/3 Qtr. When Vando returns, consider starting Vando/Knecht with Rui being that 1st Sub for LBJ @ PF which, is His Natural Position. However, We NEED Rui to continue to Average 15+/5+!!!
The knock against mitch kupchak was that he waited to late to talk to free agents but now all they do is sign a bunch of gus that can't play
Finally the FO speaks the truth.
D Lo looks good coming off the bench !!!
Vanderbilt and reddish in the starting lineup with AD will make us the best defensive team in the league. With the way our offense is flowing on most nights and having a real shooter in knecht now it’s not an oversight to say realistically we’re a top 3 team in the west. I’d put us right there with Denver and OKC for favorites to make the finals. I think Boston, NY, Cleveland, OKC, LAL, and Denver are the only possible championship teams this season. Potentially the warriors, wolves, or suns but I doubt it
Calm down.
Their just trying not to make the same decision as Darwin Ham had to because they were losing. He means so much to this roster they rushed him back and he never fully healed. Lakers needs him at 90% with enough time to get this new offense down and to get back into game shape. It’s still enough time for that. Feet problems are very delicate situations, in everyday life and especially when it comes to sports. The facts there were no setbacks is the best news. Trust me he’s one of my favorite players.#Mr TRUST the PROCESS!!!!!
Question for you guys, with players having their own medical specialties - how much does teams medical actually impact the players recovery?
Are they consulted with or driving recovery plan? Likely a partnership??
Thanks for insight.
LW
Glen Rice....bullseye shooter, Sara Palin was the target
Olay. I laughed. AK
Jarred Vanderbilt. The lack of transparency to me suggests that there might be a disagreement between Vando's doctors and the Lakers doctors. Rob P can't speak to medical issues. The only person who can address the medical situation is Vando. Lakers and fans want a conclusion. Agree with Brian. Time to move on from Vando, player X.
Gail Goodrich.
You guys forget Kobe made 12 threes in one game. He was way more than a shooter obviously. Glen Rice a professional shooter
I know how he will get better quickly... Cancel his contract then he will recover very fast. At some point we have to think is he worth the wait
We do not need Lavine. I’m over him. Knecht is a far better shooter. You need an athletic 2 way guard/wing and a physical big that can rebound a rim protect
Here's what I think. Social media is the culprit. LBJ announced today that he'd be on hiatus from social media....citing the rash of "fans" accusing him of lying about having watched Knecht @ UT. The point I make is that players, management and ownership, tire of whiny ass, know nothing or know everything, bratty, juvenile, sophomoric "fans." As a franchise, you WANT support from your base, but not "fanatics." You can't "train" these imbeciles to be "happy and surprised", they're way too spoiled....and it's throughout the league in every support base. My advice/solution? Get over it, it ain't changin'
Vando is done man get this guy of the roster
Lakers front office meddling again, influencing team doctors to keep pushing Vando timeline back.Oh well, with Knecht shooting so well who needs perimeter defense😂...🤷
No live stream? 🤔
It’s over yall. We have to accept it.
We NEED more Defensive Presence…..A LOT OF HELP! Cut him, or try trade him.
Why are you a Dlo hater? Dlo is very much a under appreciated
Who is hating on Russell? Hard to find two Lakers analysts who stick up for him more. BK
Need someone that CAN play!
Hey Andy / Brian, would either of you consider trading Vando given this recent injury history? I for one would pull that trigger yet I love Vando. Problem is given his foot problems to date, NO ONE wants damaged goods. But I’d like to package Vando, Wood, JHS, Lewis, Gabe, plus a couple of picks, a combination of any or all of them and try for a DFS, or Mr.Bridges from the Hornets, or Jonas, Kuzma, maybe 2 of these names…..then hustle and bring back Lonnie Walker IV. What are your thoughts?
Vando is done. Great Team guy. Plays 1000% but too injured. Nunn. Vincent. Lakers medical staff SUCKS.
@@lamarbenavides1934you dunno basket ball. A couple picks? We only have two picks. What about a back up Center? You're already offloading Wood & Vando!
What about C. Wood
THE MIAMI HEAT FLU😂😂😂
Another kendrick Nunn. Lakers need to stop get these injury prone players
I think his career is over but they refuse to say it.
I need to know why is lakers players always diagnosed with these same injuries! I will think the lakers will be having their players seen by the best! Is it me that only see that lakers players seems to always have the most odd injuries!? wtf!? 🤬 😳 is going on? Talk to us ass fans, do not counsel us as fans!
This dude stay hurt. This training staff got to be worse
can't put your eggs in his basket...
Vando is done
Tired of listening to Brian BS
Vanderbilt is a very very good non player.
Not on my end BC
Soft.
He and Dlo gotta go. Probably Rui too. Lakers need Lavine, Craig, and one of Kessler/Nick Richards/Dayron Sharpe
Lavine is an overpaid lifetime loser. Furthermore the Lakers have NO need for his position. We need a PG and C. Rui is shooting 50/50/80.
RUI , You are suggesting they get rid of RUI, man you gotta get off then DRUGS 😢
One more comment, D Lo looks good coming off the bench !!!