I feel terrible for you Joost. There's nothing you can possibly do in this scenario that will appease everyone. If you go through with this vehicle, I'm sure whatever you decide would be great but I wouldn't do another animated vehicle. There's way too much variation.
I'm not part of that group, personally I would have voted on the Arkham Knight Batmobile. The BTAS car is very simple, so at a 1500 pricepoint it's a tough sell regardless of the design details... tricky to arrive at a happy medium that will please enough fans to get enough orders in.
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I’m very late but I agree. Mcfarlane has rereleased one but one that fits his dc multiverse animated batman would be good with a bit of the realistic design
There is a huge market for 1/12 scale. I’d go for a more realistic design, but not too far…it’s a careful balance. Having exchangeable parts for cartoon vs realism might be a good way to go about it.
You should check those that voted for the animated Batmobile if they've ever purchased or preordered from you Joost. If not, don't count those votes. Do the vote count this way moving forward. Lot of people vote, but don't buy.
If you make it realistic you alienate all the people with 1/6th scale figures by Mondo. and all the animated purist. I love BTAS and I personally don't want the 97 ... but I think you should just make the 97. I think it fits with Jazz a lot more then BTAS and the BATS is just a dumpster fire with everything being so divided. I wish you luck on this one its not going to be easy.
The bluish hue I think would make it most accurate, don't care how big it is. I don't really care about the price personally. If it's BTAS I'm getting it 100 percent. The gadgets from the show would be nice and to be able to look at the engine. Being able to fit the mondo figures would be amazing. I really hope you make this. I'm not to keen on making it realistic, I prefer more show accurate. Love your work, my vote is yes!
I think that we should stay with the animated version. DC collectibles one is a beautiful piece. But we can’t do one that’s 5 feet. My shelf isn’t big enough 😂. I hope we stick with this one and get the details ironed out cuz it will probably be the nicest one yet
Love the animated series option. But with lack of a defind cockpit I would want to see alot of the arsenal included. I prefer the black matte, and a more current design (since as you pointed out there are about 7-10 different designs that appeared in the cartoon) . The biggest hiccup is the 5 feet. I mean thats only 2 feet smaller than a Prius!
I don't do social media, so I was unaware of the poll, but my input would be to make the actual Batman: The Animated Series Batmobile (in matte black)... not the supped up one... and scale it back to a size that's compatible with the others you've done so it will still fit comfortably inside a ModuCase, while keeping it a two seater. I own the 1:12 scale DC Direct version and it's beautiful. Upscale that to fit the Mondo figures at the same price point as the previous releases and I'm in. That's my third favorite Batmobile design ('66, '89, B:TAS) with the Tumbler coming in a distant fourth, because it doesn't look like a Batmobile to me, but it's still cool. Also, can I put in a request for you to produce Speed Racer's Mach 5 (with all the steering wheel's button features activated by remote) someday, and Mad Max's Interceptors from Mad Max and The Road Warrior? I'd buy all three of those in a heartbeat!
I love what you do. I have the 66 and 89 on the way, BECAUSE, the accuracy and attention to detail is unreal…scrap this future 5’ desk and do the 97’. What’s the point of doing what you do, if you’re trying to make up the interior, make up the engine details, make up seatbelts even!! Impossible to please 500 people’s imagination.
Joost give it your best shot. You have a proven track record of success. It will be great I'm sure and looking forward to seeing the naysayers sign up for the waitlist
Cartoons are hard because some angles will be warped similar to lens distortion in real life. The key thing is just do what you like if I learn anything as a collector and toy companies it's like you can't listen to the fans they don't know what they want for the most part. They say they want something but they don't realize how much it actually cost. So I would say just keep it simple through the base model close to the cartoon. And see if there's a way to add on some of the gimmicks from the show not all of them. And then see if there's certain parts like the center of the body or sides that can be swappable with the more detailed look you had on Facebook. And then see how it budgets out and how many people are interested. The 300 people from the pole is not enough to run the production anyway so at the end of the day it depends on the majority of your customers
I think the only viable option is to put each of those choices for the Animated Series up for A/B voting. It's kind of doubtful that too many people will sit on their wallets because one or two aspects aren't quite what they wanted.
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I would be very surprised if you get enough orders to make this happen. There's just not enough collectors on the animated/cartoon side that would be willing to spend that kind of money. Even spending $750 would be a difficult decision. Stick with the movie vehicles and maybe start purchasing licenses to branch out in other areas. We've been asking for the KIIT car from Knight Rider.... LET'S GOOOO!
I love the BTAS Batmobile. I don't care how big it is. I will purchase it and make room. I will sell things if I have to, to make room for this. Please make it.
OMG ! This i quiet some Undertaking. In the animated Series the Dimensions and Proportions differ from Episode to Episode, and some times even from Sene to Scene. Making Compromises in the right Spots is the only Chance. I do own a Copy of the DC-Collectable and i think they made a good Job. And it is BIG! Cant imagine how big a 1/6 version would be!
If this gets greenlit, I predict an incredible amount of foot pain from the tap dancing from the collector community. There is no safe way to please even a tiny majority that would purchase this, there will be constant complaints and issues being brought up on the direction causing huge division and controversy within the community, with no comfort of an escape clause to fall back on "...But this is true to real specs."
They do have the option in not buying it. Collectors talk a good game but if they hate being left out not having something that is rare. Build it and they will come.
My vote would be to not alter the design of the animated batmobile, but just apply real world details like tires, bolts, panel lines, rivets, headlights, grills, etc. Maintain the sleek, exaggerated aesthetic of the cartoon, with the real world sensibilities in the details. Keep up the great work and I hope you’ll dip your toes back into 1/12th one day. The Justice League Batmobile rocks
If you do the BTAS Batmobile: I think the look should be faithful to the look of the show. That’s what Jazzinc does. The scale doesn’t have to be perfect, bc there is no perfect scale since the size was somewhat inconsistent during the life of the series. Just do the paint job where the blue hue comes out in the light. The matte paint jobs that you see on other interpretations is merely common, and it’s what makes it accessible and cheap. Nice, but worth exactly what you paid for it. We’re not going for cheap. That’s not what Jazzinc does. If I wanted something inexpensive, then I’d just buy a basic, toy batmobile. No, people are learning to come to you because you make things in amazing detail that they didn’t think was possible. I’m a lifelong Batman fan but I don’t consider myself a collector (anymore). I don’t buy collectibles for myself; I have kids to take care of. Then one day, I saw what you did with the 2022 batmobile. I’m not even a fan of that movie but, holy crap, I bought it without thinking. I didn’t even know I wanted it until I saw what you did. I’m now making payments on the 89 Batmobile because, holy crap, it’s BEAUTIFUL. My point is: make it beautiful. Don’t make it cheap. Anyone can do that. You’re not Hotwheels or Hasbro or Mattel. If possible, at least show us a 3d print of what it COULD be if you were faithful and then added Jazzinc’s loving touch. If you do that, I bet the size will matter less. Yup, 5 feet sounds ridiculous. But you know what? Spending $1500 (plus shipping) on that 2022 Batmobile used to sound ridiculous to me too…until I saw how you brought it to life. Don’t worry too much about fans saying that storage space is an issue. It’s ALWAYS an issue if you’re a collector. And if you need to scale down for production reasons, that’s fine. But don’t make a hybrid that consists of 6 parts animated and 4 parts reality. That’s just an experiment. It would look cool, but it won’t have any meaning to anyone. Make a faithful, lovingly reproduced BTAS Batmobile as it was meant to appear on the show. That will have meaning for collectors bc it will tie together nostalgia, fantasy brought to reality, cultural significance and bat-mythology. That’s what I’ve learned to come to Jazzinc for. Sorry this is so long (like, seriously, VERY sorry) but in the end I guess what I’m saying is: I don’t want you to do what I merely want; and I don’t want you to simply make what the folks at Jazzinc want. I want you to take the BTAS Batmobile and do what Jazzinc DOES. And if for some reason that’s not possible, then ditch the idea. I don’t want a half-assed Batmobile from Jazzinc. Side note: I do market research. Let me know if you need a survey designed to that assess which components are most vs. least important to be included in a BTAS Batmobile.
I’m down for the animated at a reasonable size. I’m more interested in re-releases of the Keaton and Kilmer Batmobiles. I’m new to this company and missed out.
I would love it if you made a smaller, more manageable scale Batwing. I've pre-ordered the 89 Batmobile, but the the size of the Batwing scared me off. I promise a smaller scale would absolutely sell.
I think u will do a great job joost with the Batmobile even know I’m not getting it. I’m waiting for 97 & I’m on the wait list for batwing. I think with the votes should email only buyers to get a real vote I did mention this on your fb group atleast u no who the real buyers would be.
It should be the 97 to finish the movie vehicles, many collectors are not in the Facebook group, the animated series should be done after the 97, the animated doesn't make sense to me honestly I am baffled 🤷
I've always thought the BTAS batmobile is incredibly cool, but that is within the animated context of BTAS itself where you can get away with a bit of creative licence. Quite a lot of the time the car is shown from above and infront, which I think exaggerates the length and swept back look of it but when you think about the size of the cockpit versus it's overall length and width... The proportions don't translate that well to a scale model. Have you thought about doing the original Arkham Asylum batmobile? I'm surprised that wasn't included in the vote. I think people like it in particular as it's a really nice amalgamation of previous batmobiles, most notably the BTAS and 1989 cars. I'm not sure if it's as loved within the Batman enthusiast community overall as much as it is in the Batman *gaming* community e.g. Arkham Asylum/ City/ Knight fans, but would be really cool to see a scale model of it.
For me a Classic style and all features in terme of gadget would be very good compromise. The basic style could be compensate with a lot of gadget and functions. It’s gonna be great!🎉🎉🎉
Hi Joost.I'm an '89' man, so no skin in this vote. However this option does seem unrealistic. I'm surprised the '97' didn't get up here. Cheers from Australia.
I think 5 feet is a deal breaker. I struggled too with the size of the 22 which is why I didn't order it. I do love the internal engine and the cockpit in the realistic take. Taking that a step further, having a mechanics version where other parts can be exposed to show the inner workings exposing bat gadgets/weapons would be awesome similar to the XM batcycle that looks like a beast when the panels are off. I also think having a beautiful blue black paint pearlescent paint to mimic the animated series would be great. I think ditching the added hood scoop but keeping the panel lines and other subtle details that make it feel like a believable car that would blend nicely with other Jazzinc products would be the best way to go. Subtle weathering as well on wheels and from usage. 1500 for an overscaled plastic toy doesn't make sense. Having the quality of real life materials mixed with shapes of the animated series. I think if you went the realistic route you may want to also consider selling figures to match. Or at least having power posed figures that can be placed in the cockpit. Another idea would be to add some sort of display base so the Batmobile looks like its in action banking a turn but with angling the base in such a way where it increases the height of the display while cutting the length of how much space is taken up. I hope that made sense.
I wonder whether you buy your cabinets, or you make them yourself. I collect 1/6 scale vehicles & figures, like most of us here, and I regret I st4uggle to find an ideal & classy cabinet like yours. Thanks in advance! RICHARD from London, UK
Scan the DC Collectible Batmobile with a professional LiDAR Scanner and make a sample! We want to see the piece even if it is a basic sample to compare it near the original DC collectible to see the size! 😊
The cartoon one, IMO, will look more cartoon years down the road. Five ft. is too much for me but if it's normal size and modern I am a day one pre order guy. Aside from the 95 I like them all. For batman I would favor The Bat or the 66 boat to complete 66.
So the problem is, as you said, all the batmobiles youve done so far have existed in the real world. With an animation studio you have multiple artists working on different scenes for every episode. The issue there, is every artist will draw things a little differently from every other artist on the same project. My point is this, trying to translate that into a physical thing will NOT turn out the way EVERY fan thinks it will. One of the reasons the studio wanted to make the series in the first place was it was coming off the heels of the Burton films. I would start by using your 89 measurements and then finding a balance between designs for the different references. As far as making it more realistic I would say that's ok to an extent. I think the image you showed for a possible look, felt a little too busy. It doesn't need alot of extra detail. Sometimes less can be more. Hope that helps a little.
Hey JOOST, I'm EXCITED for this animated series Batmobile, but PLEASE PLEASE do a K.I.T.T. Knight 2000 Knight Rider in 1/6 at some point! Pretty PLEASE🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
ANIMATED! BUT we need a good animated Batman figure….though I like mondos skeletor and he man figures and the battle cat and panthor….not really fond of the Batman animated figure they made. Cel shading isn’t ideal for me, and the proportions aren’t the best. Personally I don’t need it to be 5’… It can be a step closer to the animated series look IF you go one seater, so you can make it narrower and have better proportions vs if you made it a two seater with a narrow, but VERY LONG chassis. I like the look in the opening of the show with the fully rendered Batmobile… I am cool with black, with the same iridescent blue, that was used in theb89 Batmobile. Often times Blue is used to depict highlights in black hair, clothing objects in comic books and cartoons. But I’ll bite . The only features I expect are light up headlights, cockpit dash displays, tail lights and rear flame exhaust ….wheel shredders, opening hood Maybe a nod to the Kenner toy somehow, but the proportions of the Kenner Batmobile from the animated series is nice. Not the scale in relation to the figure….might be too big, if I’m remembering correctly.
I think the realistic version of the animated batmobile is a good idea. Maybe it can be adapted to the 1989 batmobile size, to put it in the same ballpark money wise. It will be matter of sketching designs to see if it looks good. Breaking some of the large flat surfaces with panel lines will help. Some small detail can be added around the back where the jet nozzle is. I work as a visual designer in the film industry, This is a very interesting and tricky challenge.
Joost, I think you need to pull the pin on this entire project & focus on something else. This project is dividing the fans too much & will just end up giving you a massive headache.
Design: I think you should 100% go cartoon accurate. That realistic variant is cool looking but not true to the spirit of the source material. Yes, it would fit in more with the live-action Batmobiles you've made but this isn't a live-action Batmobile. The minimalist art deco inspired Bruce Timm design is part of the car's character. Plus, if you have the Mondo figures, it's certainly going to be an odd match. Don't worry, the real-world parts of the car like the tires, wheels, grill, headers, turbine, etc. will help sell it as being more than a plastic toy. Length/Size: I realize this is perhaps the biggest source of frustration as there's no definitive dimensions of the car as we see it throughout the series. Rather than see this as an obstacle, you should see it as a blessing. This gives you massive room for interpretation. I don't believe you _have_ to make it 5 feet or even close. As long as you capture the basic lines and proportions of the car to where it looks 'right', it should look good even at a shorter length. There are shots in the show where the cockpit looked impossible for Batman and Robin to fit into. I don't think anyone can fault you for making ergonomical concessions here. Paint: This is where the car can really shine. Being that it's such a simple design, a good paint application can really make it stand out. You mentioned the '89's paint and the different hues that appeared in it. A similar satin paint that has a blueish hue could look fantastic. Definitely better than a simple matte black. Again, you have room for interpretation. The same can be done in regard to the other parts of car that I mentioned before. That's where I think you should focus rather than trying to make the car "realistic". Accessories are always nice so long as you don't have to compromise on aesthetics. Price: Well, this is something I can't really comment on without knowing the production costs. $1,500 might be a harder sell for what some may regard as a more basic design. Only thing I would say is don't go forward even if you have the slightest hint that there isn't enough interest. Joost, this is one of those cases where you're not going to be able to satisfy everybody. If you try to, you'll end up satisfying no one. Make a rendering, put it out there, and if there aren't enough people interested, just move on to the '97. Good luck and keep up the great work.
I can't see collectors spending on an animated version. I LOVE that car but nope, 5 to 6 feet is a no go imo. Put their resources into a batcopter or a Bike and sidecar from 66 or better yet, look at an A-Team Van, or Kitt from Knight Rider(Which is probably the biggest grail of all). I know you want to honor a poll, but that project perhaps needs to be put in the back burner imo. I don't think sometimes popel understand scale also. I remember NECA talking about 1/10 vehicles and people mentioned a DeathStar or a Millennium Falcon. They don't understand how big something like that really will be.
Please make this figures: Rama (The Raid Redemption) Judge Dredd (Karl Urban) Jack Sparrow Charles Chaplin (Vagabond) Indiana Jones (Any from the first 3 movies) Conan (Arnold Schwarzenegger) Bruce Lee (Yellow Tracksuit) Jacky Chan (Any Police Story)
I really don't think it's necessary this car. It is a very "flat" very simple vehicle that can be easily designed without much difficulty and send to print. In addition, brands like DC Collectibles made 2 versions of the vehicle that are really good and cheap (less than $200) and with leds and open different gadgets and cabin and still being produced.
Don’t do it Joost, you will be left holding the bag on this one. You’ve already observed that the exact things that make buyers “wishwashy” Or uncommitted are exactly the red flags popping up. It’s not Vegas, don’t gamble.
ARKHAM!!! If you can make an Animated Batmobile, at almost 5 feet long or a little longer than that. Why couldn’t we get the Arkham version? That’s a vehicle you don’t have to worry about making real/animated in style.
Cartoons aren't real.. if you went over the toon I'd prolly find 82 variations of this vehicle. I don't have a dog in this race but if anyone can pull it off it's Joost!.. now can the fans pick a favorite and have the numbers to have it made?! That's gonna be tough!
An animated car was never a good fit. If anything it should be a realistic take to at least fit with the other vehicles. Like what hot toys have done with clone wars line.
The BTAS Batmobile is beyond iconic for me. You can make it 2k and 5 ft and I'm in. Can't put 1/6 scale figures in it? Don't care. I'm in. No detailed interior? Don't care. I'm in. And to modernize it makes no sense to me. I say do it justice or don't do it at all. It will be a challenge because of the variations in the drawings over the course of the series, but as long as it's a faithful representation of the BTAS car, I'm in. Many thanks to Jazz Inc for being so collaborative.
Please dont make the animated series batmobile. In reale Form it Looks not good. I had the DC collectibels one and the Dimensions Looks not so good as in the series, the Cockpit ist mucch more wider, so that the figures fit in there and it Looks like Plastik Bomber. Please make the 1997
The 97 was universally hated. Joost will get the same low numbers for that people are claiming he will get for BTAS. Can he at least make the thing first before sabatoging it.
I'm a big fan of BTAS but don't do it. Way too many variables and no one will be happy. Stick with the Arkham or '97. I would love to see someone make the original Batmobile from the original Arkham game in either a 1:18, 1:12 or 1:6. We only have the 1:64 Hot Wheels.
@@ramanmanjgill356 The first part is my input. The second part is a wish for any company to make one. You would be included in the no one will be happy group.. Not even with a comment. 🙄
@@adrianethridge4922 I don’t know if you’re looking for something with moving parts, but I think prime 1 did the Arkham knight batmobile in a pretty big scale.
@@josiahkhani3667 Thank you. Sorry I meant the original Arkham Batmobile. Hot Wheels did a Arkham Knight 1:18 and there was a cool one from SDCC that went in to tank mode. I talked to Jada and they nodded that they were but I have not seen it and it's been several years.
You ask 100 different collectors, you get 100 different answers. I think you as a company need to be decisive on what you are going to offer, and then let the collectors make the decision if they want to purchase or not. You've already done the most popular Batman vehicles. Any others from here on out will have low order numbers with very low production runs.
Two problems with that, first off, there is already been a 1/12 scale by DC collectibles, and secondly, we do 1/6 scale because 1/12 scale does not work for us in terms of sales.
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It seems almost unrealistic to do this one, and we don’t want you to be holding the bill on it!
Thank you!
Arkham Batmobile in 1/6. You can do the Animated version in 1/12.
That 89 and 95 lit up with the blue looks so good in the background 🚗
I feel terrible for you Joost. There's nothing you can possibly do in this scenario that will appease everyone. If you go through with this vehicle, I'm sure whatever you decide would be great but I wouldn't do another animated vehicle. There's way too much variation.
The 97 Batmobile makes the most sense in this scenario and I would 100% buy it.
I'm not part of that group, personally I would have voted on the Arkham Knight Batmobile. The BTAS car is very simple, so at a 1500 pricepoint it's a tough sell regardless of the design details... tricky to arrive at a happy medium that will please enough fans to get enough orders in.
I was in the group and voted for the AK tank. Until now I don’t think everyone understood the size of the BTAS car.
@@scodyt3996 The Arkham Knight vehicle is just as big and wide to make and fit any where lol
@@kevinzamora5240 Agree. However I will be the first to buy this thang 🤣🤣🤣
@@scodyt3996 Same here brother 🤣😅
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I’d say a 1/12 version would be a fair compromise.
I’m very late but I agree. Mcfarlane has rereleased one but one that fits his dc multiverse animated batman would be good with a bit of the realistic design
There is a huge market for 1/12 scale. I’d go for a more realistic design, but not too far…it’s a careful balance. Having exchangeable parts for cartoon vs realism might be a good way to go about it.
You should check those that voted for the animated Batmobile if they've ever purchased or preordered from you Joost. If not, don't count those votes. Do the vote count this way moving forward. Lot of people vote, but don't buy.
I’ve purchased two Batmobiles and I vote make the Animated Series one.
I say do the BTAS too! Can't wait to get it.@@k2sworld
If you make it realistic you alienate all the people with 1/6th scale figures by Mondo. and all the animated purist. I love BTAS and I personally don't want the 97 ... but I think you should just make the 97. I think it fits with Jazz a lot more then BTAS and the BATS is just a dumpster fire with everything being so divided. I wish you luck on this one its not going to be easy.
1/6 is to damn big
Absolutely gorgeous and elegant display.
Thank you
The most gorgeous Batmobile behind the 1989 Burton one.
I had the same opinion till I figured out the 1989 has a V8 and this one has a naturally aspirated v12
The bluish hue I think would make it most accurate, don't care how big it is. I don't really care about the price personally. If it's BTAS I'm getting it 100 percent. The gadgets from the show would be nice and to be able to look at the engine. Being able to fit the mondo figures would be amazing. I really hope you make this. I'm not to keen on making it realistic, I prefer more show accurate. Love your work, my vote is yes!
I think that we should stay with the animated version. DC collectibles one is a beautiful piece. But we can’t do one that’s 5 feet. My shelf isn’t big enough 😂. I hope we stick with this one and get the details ironed out cuz it will probably be the nicest one yet
Guess I’ll keep waiting for the Arkham Knight Batmobile lol
Arkham Asylum’s Batmobile is way superior, if that one ever gets made in 1/12 you can take my money 💵💰
This! Stop with Arkham Knight and do Arkham ASYLUM!
Love the animated series option. But with lack of a defind cockpit I would want to see alot of the arsenal included. I prefer the black matte, and a more current design (since as you pointed out there are about 7-10 different designs that appeared in the cartoon) . The biggest hiccup is the 5 feet. I mean thats only 2 feet smaller than a Prius!
I think most people want to see this done but very few would actually want it or more importantly have space for it
I don't do social media, so I was unaware of the poll, but my input would be to make the actual Batman: The Animated Series Batmobile (in matte black)... not the supped up one... and scale it back to a size that's compatible with the others you've done so it will still fit comfortably inside a ModuCase, while keeping it a two seater. I own the 1:12 scale DC Direct version and it's beautiful. Upscale that to fit the Mondo figures at the same price point as the previous releases and I'm in. That's my third favorite Batmobile design ('66, '89, B:TAS) with the Tumbler coming in a distant fourth, because it doesn't look like a Batmobile to me, but it's still cool. Also, can I put in a request for you to produce Speed Racer's Mach 5 (with all the steering wheel's button features activated by remote) someday, and Mad Max's Interceptors from Mad Max and The Road Warrior? I'd buy all three of those in a heartbeat!
I’ll go with the Arkaham night Batmobile. Hot toys already has some figures from this property . Just that make it more appealing to me
I’m a huge BTAS fan and I will buy this. I’ve already purchased the 66 Batmobile and 89 Batwing. So you have my vote.
The six Batmobiles behind him look FRIKKIN AWESOME!
I would try and get in touch with Bruce Timm. He might have a good idea of what the car should be.
Got a feeling this will be a non-starter Joost. Too many variables and too much risk. Think the ‘97 is the way to go! 👍🏼
People hated that movie and the car. So now everyone's a fan. 97 get in line
I love what you do. I have the 66 and 89 on the way, BECAUSE, the accuracy and attention to detail is unreal…scrap this future 5’ desk and do the 97’. What’s the point of doing what you do, if you’re trying to make up the interior, make up the engine details, make up seatbelts even!! Impossible to please 500 people’s imagination.
Continue the cinematic run with the 97.
Who would have guessed this would be your greatest challenge..Trying to work out how to make a Batman Animated car 🙂🙂
Joost give it your best shot. You have a proven track record of success. It will be great I'm sure and looking forward to seeing the naysayers sign up for the waitlist
Wow...very beautiful 😍 you should do a collection tour and give justin a run for his money 😊
Cartoons are hard because some angles will be warped similar to lens distortion in real life.
The key thing is just do what you like if I learn anything as a collector and toy companies it's like you can't listen to the fans they don't know what they want for the most part.
They say they want something but they don't realize how much it actually cost.
So I would say just keep it simple through the base model close to the cartoon. And see if there's a way to add on some of the gimmicks from the show not all of them.
And then see if there's certain parts like the center of the body or sides that can be swappable with the more detailed look you had on Facebook.
And then see how it budgets out and how many people are interested.
The 300 people from the pole is not enough to run the production anyway so at the end of the day it depends on the majority of your customers
The 89’ and 95’ are incredible looking cars, but I do have a soft for the 97’
I think the only viable option is to put each of those choices for the Animated Series up for A/B voting.
It's kind of doubtful that too many people will sit on their wallets because one or two aspects aren't quite what they wanted.
Man I need 97 batmobile
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I would be very surprised if you get enough orders to make this happen. There's just not enough collectors on the animated/cartoon side that would be willing to spend that kind of money. Even spending $750 would be a difficult decision. Stick with the movie vehicles and maybe start purchasing licenses to branch out in other areas. We've been asking for the KIIT car from Knight Rider.... LET'S GOOOO!
I love the BTAS Batmobile. I don't care how big it is. I will purchase it and make room. I will sell things if I have to, to make room for this. Please make it.
OMG ! This i quiet some Undertaking. In the animated Series the Dimensions and Proportions differ from Episode to Episode, and some times even from Sene to Scene. Making Compromises in the right Spots is the only Chance. I do own a Copy of the DC-Collectable and i think they made a good Job. And it is BIG! Cant imagine how big a 1/6 version would be!
If this gets greenlit, I predict an incredible amount of foot pain from the tap dancing from the collector community. There is no safe way to please even a tiny majority that would purchase this, there will be constant complaints and issues being brought up on the direction causing huge division and controversy within the community, with no comfort of an escape clause to fall back on "...But this is true to real specs."
They do have the option in not buying it. Collectors talk a good game but if they hate being left out not having something that is rare. Build it and they will come.
My vote would be to not alter the design of the animated batmobile, but just apply real world details like tires, bolts, panel lines, rivets, headlights, grills, etc. Maintain the sleek, exaggerated aesthetic of the cartoon, with the real world sensibilities in the details. Keep up the great work and I hope you’ll dip your toes back into 1/12th one day. The Justice League Batmobile rocks
If you do the BTAS Batmobile:
I think the look should be faithful to the look of the show. That’s what Jazzinc does. The scale doesn’t have to be perfect, bc there is no perfect scale since the size was somewhat inconsistent during the life of the series. Just do the paint job where the blue hue comes out in the light. The matte paint jobs that you see on other interpretations is merely common, and it’s what makes it accessible and cheap. Nice, but worth exactly what you paid for it. We’re not going for cheap. That’s not what Jazzinc does. If I wanted something inexpensive, then I’d just buy a basic, toy batmobile. No, people are learning to come to you because you make things in amazing detail that they didn’t think was possible. I’m a lifelong Batman fan but I don’t consider myself a collector (anymore). I don’t buy collectibles for myself; I have kids to take care of. Then one day, I saw what you did with the 2022 batmobile. I’m not even a fan of that movie but, holy crap, I bought it without thinking. I didn’t even know I wanted it until I saw what you did. I’m now making payments on the 89 Batmobile because, holy crap, it’s BEAUTIFUL. My point is: make it beautiful. Don’t make it cheap. Anyone can do that. You’re not Hotwheels or Hasbro or Mattel. If possible, at least show us a 3d print of what it COULD be if you were faithful and then added Jazzinc’s loving touch. If you do that, I bet the size will matter less. Yup, 5 feet sounds ridiculous. But you know what? Spending $1500 (plus shipping) on that 2022 Batmobile used to sound ridiculous to me too…until I saw how you brought it to life. Don’t worry too much about fans saying that storage space is an issue. It’s ALWAYS an issue if you’re a collector. And if you need to scale down for production reasons, that’s fine. But don’t make a hybrid that consists of 6 parts animated and 4 parts reality. That’s just an experiment. It would look cool, but it won’t have any meaning to anyone. Make a faithful, lovingly reproduced BTAS Batmobile as it was meant to appear on the show. That will have meaning for collectors bc it will tie together nostalgia, fantasy brought to reality, cultural significance and bat-mythology. That’s what I’ve learned to come to Jazzinc for. Sorry this is so long (like, seriously, VERY sorry) but in the end I guess what I’m saying is: I don’t want you to do what I merely want; and I don’t want you to simply make what the folks at Jazzinc want. I want you to take the BTAS Batmobile and do what Jazzinc DOES. And if for some reason that’s not possible, then ditch the idea. I don’t want a half-assed Batmobile from Jazzinc. Side note: I do market research. Let me know if you need a survey designed to that assess which components are most vs. least important to be included in a BTAS Batmobile.
I’m down for the animated at a reasonable size. I’m more interested in re-releases of the Keaton and Kilmer Batmobiles. I’m new to this company and missed out.
I would love it if you made a smaller, more manageable scale Batwing. I've pre-ordered the 89 Batmobile, but the the size of the Batwing scared me off. I promise a smaller scale would absolutely sell.
People already talking how big this will be on fb group & changing they minds. Not a good start joost could be losing money on this one.
I think u will do a great job joost with the Batmobile even know I’m not getting it. I’m waiting for 97 & I’m on the wait list for batwing. I think with the votes should email only buyers to get a real vote I did mention this on your fb group atleast u no who the real buyers would be.
It should be the 97 to finish the movie vehicles, many collectors are not in the Facebook group, the animated series should be done after the 97, the animated doesn't make sense to me honestly I am baffled 🤷
I also wish the live action versions were finished first.
I've always thought the BTAS batmobile is incredibly cool, but that is within the animated context of BTAS itself where you can get away with a bit of creative licence. Quite a lot of the time the car is shown from above and infront, which I think exaggerates the length and swept back look of it but when you think about the size of the cockpit versus it's overall length and width... The proportions don't translate that well to a scale model.
Have you thought about doing the original Arkham Asylum batmobile? I'm surprised that wasn't included in the vote. I think people like it in particular as it's a really nice amalgamation of previous batmobiles, most notably the BTAS and 1989 cars. I'm not sure if it's as loved within the Batman enthusiast community overall as much as it is in the Batman *gaming* community e.g. Arkham Asylum/ City/ Knight fans, but would be really cool to see a scale model of it.
For me a Classic style and all features in terme of gadget would be very good compromise. The basic style could be compensate with a lot of gadget and functions. It’s gonna be great!🎉🎉🎉
Hi Joost.I'm an '89' man, so no skin in this vote. However this option does seem unrealistic. I'm surprised the '97' didn't get up here. Cheers from Australia.
Batmobile from Batman and Robin is the way to go.
BATMAN BEYOND!
The people have voted for the cartoon Batmobile ... Its gonna be a big build..but worth it. Yeah! 👍
can you start making 1/12 scale vehicles ? I would definitely buy the animated batman car either versions is fine with me.
Joost what about 1/12 the batman batmobile?
Off topic...I was wondering 🤔 for us gi joe fans....any chance for a 1/6 troubled bubble?
Maybe You must use navi metalic paint.
I think 5 feet is a deal breaker. I struggled too
with the size of the 22 which is why I didn't order it. I do love the internal engine and the cockpit in the realistic take. Taking that a step further, having a mechanics version where other parts can be exposed to show the inner workings exposing bat gadgets/weapons would be awesome similar to the XM batcycle that looks like a beast when the panels are off. I also think having a beautiful blue black paint pearlescent paint to mimic the animated series would be great. I think ditching the added hood scoop but keeping the panel lines and other subtle details that make it feel like a believable car that would blend nicely with other Jazzinc products would be the best way to go. Subtle weathering as well on wheels and from usage. 1500 for an overscaled plastic toy doesn't make sense. Having the quality of real life materials mixed with shapes of the animated series. I think if you went the realistic route you may want to also consider selling figures to match. Or at least having power posed figures that can be placed in the cockpit. Another idea would be to add some sort of display base so the Batmobile looks like its in action banking a turn but with angling the base in such a way where it increases the height of the display while cutting the length of how much space is taken up. I hope that made sense.
Say what you guys want. The Arkham Knight looks fkinginsane. It would be the most badass one if you put all the Batmobiles side by side!
Be nice to see the bat boat or even a different batplane
Have to be out if it's 5ft, I think no bigger than the 89 if it will still look right🦇🦇🦇
I wonder whether you buy your cabinets, or you make them yourself. I collect 1/6 scale vehicles & figures, like most of us here, and I regret I st4uggle to find an ideal & classy cabinet like yours. Thanks in advance! RICHARD from London, UK
I was hoping for the 97 damn 😢.
Do the Batman Beyond Batmobile. I may be in the SMALL majority but I want this one SOOOOO BAD!
Scan the DC Collectible Batmobile with a professional LiDAR Scanner and make a sample! We want to see the piece even if it is a basic sample to compare it near the original DC collectible to see the size! 😊
Original Animated batmobile all the way
I love the animated series one but this time Arkham knight one please
I would suggest completing the movie line first which means 97 Batmobile next.
The cartoon one, IMO, will look more cartoon years down the road. Five ft. is too much for me but if it's normal size and modern I am a day one pre order guy. Aside from the 95 I like them all. For batman I would favor The Bat or the 66 boat to complete 66.
So the problem is, as you said, all the batmobiles youve done so far have existed in the real world. With an animation studio you have multiple artists working on different scenes for every episode. The issue there, is every artist will draw things a little differently from every other artist on the same project. My point is this, trying to translate that into a physical thing will NOT turn out the way EVERY fan thinks it will. One of the reasons the studio wanted to make the series in the first place was it was coming off the heels of the Burton films. I would start by using your 89 measurements and then finding a balance between designs for the different references. As far as making it more realistic I would say that's ok to an extent. I think the image you showed for a possible look, felt a little too busy. It doesn't need alot of extra detail. Sometimes less can be more. Hope that helps a little.
Hey JOOST, I'm EXCITED for this animated series Batmobile, but PLEASE PLEASE do a K.I.T.T. Knight 2000 Knight Rider in 1/6 at some point! Pretty PLEASE🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Forget space...do the Star Destroyer!
do the 97, that I would buy
ANIMATED! BUT we need a good animated Batman figure….though I like mondos skeletor and he man figures and the battle cat and panthor….not really fond of the Batman animated figure they made. Cel shading isn’t ideal for me, and the proportions aren’t the best.
Personally I don’t need it to be 5’…
It can be a step closer to the animated series look IF you go one seater, so you can make it narrower and have better proportions vs if you made it a two seater with a narrow, but VERY LONG chassis.
I like the look in the opening of the show with the fully rendered Batmobile…
I am cool with black, with the same iridescent blue, that was used in theb89 Batmobile.
Often times Blue is used to depict highlights in black hair, clothing objects in comic books and cartoons. But I’ll bite .
The only features I expect are light up headlights, cockpit dash displays, tail lights and rear flame exhaust ….wheel shredders, opening hood
Maybe a nod to the Kenner toy somehow, but the proportions of the Kenner Batmobile from the animated series is nice. Not the scale in relation to the figure….might be too big, if I’m remembering correctly.
I think 5 feet is just too big
Or how about that first Arkham Batmobile and then Arkham knight batwing
Complete the lineup
I think the realistic version of the animated batmobile is a good idea. Maybe it can be adapted to the 1989 batmobile size, to put it in the same ballpark money wise. It will be matter of sketching designs to see if it looks good. Breaking some of the large flat surfaces with panel lines will help. Some small detail can be added around the back where the jet nozzle is. I work as a visual designer in the film industry, This is a very interesting and tricky challenge.
Joost, I think you need to pull the pin on this entire project & focus on something else. This project is dividing the fans too much & will just end up giving you a massive headache.
Agree %100
How about scratch that Batmobile all together?! Just make the Arkham Knight Batmobile!
Asylum is better
Do the ARKHAM ASYLUM batmobile...NOT arkham KNIGHT just put it in the poll please with prices. If this price approaches arkham im out.
Maybe make it as long as the 89
Design: I think you should 100% go cartoon accurate. That realistic variant is cool looking but not true to the spirit of the source material. Yes, it would fit in more with the live-action Batmobiles you've made but this isn't a live-action Batmobile. The minimalist art deco inspired Bruce Timm design is part of the car's character. Plus, if you have the Mondo figures, it's certainly going to be an odd match. Don't worry, the real-world parts of the car like the tires, wheels, grill, headers, turbine, etc. will help sell it as being more than a plastic toy.
Length/Size: I realize this is perhaps the biggest source of frustration as there's no definitive dimensions of the car as we see it throughout the series. Rather than see this as an obstacle, you should see it as a blessing. This gives you massive room for interpretation. I don't believe you _have_ to make it 5 feet or even close. As long as you capture the basic lines and proportions of the car to where it looks 'right', it should look good even at a shorter length. There are shots in the show where the cockpit looked impossible for Batman and Robin to fit into. I don't think anyone can fault you for making ergonomical concessions here.
Paint: This is where the car can really shine. Being that it's such a simple design, a good paint application can really make it stand out. You mentioned the '89's paint and the different hues that appeared in it. A similar satin paint that has a blueish hue could look fantastic. Definitely better than a simple matte black. Again, you have room for interpretation. The same can be done in regard to the other parts of car that I mentioned before. That's where I think you should focus rather than trying to make the car "realistic". Accessories are always nice so long as you don't have to compromise on aesthetics.
Price: Well, this is something I can't really comment on without knowing the production costs. $1,500 might be a harder sell for what some may regard as a more basic design. Only thing I would say is don't go forward even if you have the slightest hint that there isn't enough interest.
Joost, this is one of those cases where you're not going to be able to satisfy everybody. If you try to, you'll end up satisfying no one. Make a rendering, put it out there, and if there aren't enough people interested, just move on to the '97.
Good luck and keep up the great work.
Animated Batmobile?! Nah, Tie Fighter or AT-AT please. :)
I can't see collectors spending on an animated version. I LOVE that car but nope, 5 to 6 feet is a no go imo.
Put their resources into a batcopter or a Bike and sidecar from 66 or better yet, look at an A-Team Van, or Kitt from Knight Rider(Which is probably the biggest grail of all).
I know you want to honor a poll, but that project perhaps needs to be put in the back burner imo. I don't think sometimes popel understand scale also.
I remember NECA talking about 1/10 vehicles and people mentioned a DeathStar or a Millennium Falcon. They don't understand how big something like that really will be.
I do see collectors buying this that's why it won the vote but not a batcopter.
I am down with either animated version 1/6 scale or even the more realistic looking version. This Batmobile won in the polls and should be made.
Please make this figures:
Rama (The Raid Redemption)
Judge Dredd (Karl Urban)
Jack Sparrow
Charles Chaplin (Vagabond)
Indiana Jones (Any from the first 3 movies)
Conan (Arnold Schwarzenegger)
Bruce Lee (Yellow Tracksuit)
Jacky Chan (Any Police Story)
I really don't think it's necessary this car. It is a very "flat" very simple vehicle that can be easily designed without much difficulty and send to print. In addition, brands like DC Collectibles made 2 versions of the vehicle that are really good and cheap (less than $200) and with leds and open different gadgets and cabin and still being produced.
Don’t do it Joost, you will be left holding the bag on this one. You’ve already observed that the exact things that make buyers “wishwashy” Or uncommitted are exactly the red flags popping up. It’s not Vegas, don’t gamble.
ARKHAM!!! If you can make an Animated Batmobile, at almost 5 feet long or a little longer than that. Why couldn’t we get the Arkham version? That’s a vehicle you don’t have to worry about making real/animated in style.
Cartoons aren't real.. if you went over the toon I'd prolly find 82 variations of this vehicle. I don't have a dog in this race but if anyone can pull it off it's Joost!.. now can the fans pick a favorite and have the numbers to have it made?! That's gonna be tough!
design it the way you want then sell it
I’m 100% out. I didn’t vote and never been interested in anything other than the ‘89 which I’m already getting.
Make it suit the mondo figures
I vote for “Animated” style with the glossy bluish hue. You could possibly do a more realistic version for those that prefer that later down the line.
An animated car was never a good fit. If anything it should be a realistic take to at least fit with the other vehicles. Like what hot toys have done with clone wars line.
The BTAS Batmobile is beyond iconic for me. You can make it 2k and 5 ft and I'm in. Can't put 1/6 scale figures in it? Don't care. I'm in. No detailed interior? Don't care. I'm in. And to modernize it makes no sense to me. I say do it justice or don't do it at all. It will be a challenge because of the variations in the drawings over the course of the series, but as long as it's a faithful representation of the BTAS car, I'm in. Many thanks to Jazz Inc for being so collaborative.
Please dont make the animated series batmobile. In reale Form it Looks not good. I had the DC collectibels one and the Dimensions Looks not so good as in the series, the Cockpit ist mucch more wider, so that the figures fit in there and it Looks like Plastik Bomber. Please make the 1997
The 97 was universally hated. Joost will get the same low numbers for that people are claiming he will get for BTAS. Can he at least make the thing first before sabatoging it.
Don't do it. Seems like a headache and a money pit. Thanks for asking for our feedback
I'm a big fan of BTAS but don't do it. Way too many variables and no one will be happy. Stick with the Arkham or '97. I would love to see someone make the original Batmobile from the original Arkham game in either a 1:18, 1:12 or 1:6. We only have the 1:64 Hot Wheels.
You’re basically asking for what you personal like and prefer to be made. What kind of input is that?
@@ramanmanjgill356 The first part is my input. The second part is a wish for any company to make one. You would be included in the no one will be happy group.. Not even with a comment. 🙄
@@adrianethridge4922 I don’t know if you’re looking for something with moving parts, but I think prime 1 did the Arkham knight batmobile in a pretty big scale.
@@josiahkhani3667 Thank you. Sorry I meant the original Arkham Batmobile. Hot Wheels did a Arkham Knight 1:18 and there was a cool one from SDCC that went in to tank mode. I talked to Jada and they nodded that they were but I have not seen it and it's been several years.
You ask 100 different collectors, you get 100 different answers. I think you as a company need to be decisive on what you are going to offer, and then let the collectors make the decision if they want to purchase or not. You've already done the most popular Batman vehicles. Any others from here on out will have low order numbers with very low production runs.
Do a 1/12 for animated series. Problem solved.
Two problems with that, first off, there is already been a 1/12 scale by DC collectibles, and secondly, we do 1/6 scale because 1/12 scale does not work for us in terms of sales.