Came across your channel looking for more insight into Micro OS and am pleasantly surprised by your RUclips presence. Great insight, calm, collective, informative, great on camera. Keep doing what you're doing, much appreciated. Subscribed.
Hope you eventually get Richard back on for a chat. Been using OpenSUSE Aeon for a few weeks now and absolutely loving it. I'm not a lazy dev, more of a dumb user. I use my laptop occasionally to watch movies, browse the web, check emails etc .. Aeon has been great out of the box for me, it's super easy to find and install new apps, and I never have to worry about running update commands. Its like Linux on easy mode.
I forgot to mention but it's important, there's no full disk encryption support yet. So if you need that on a laptop (like I do) that's still an area that needs to catch up.
Click on partitioning link after setting root password Click on expert partitioner Start with current proposal Click on btrfs partition Click edit Click checkbox encrypt device Set encryption password I will have a demonstration up later today of it.
You are brilliant. You have a new subscriber. Before I switch a machine over, will it automatically detect and install a wireless printer and scanner like Fedora does?
yeah if it's using that new ipp driverless printer thing it'll just show up, that's what happens with mine but it depends on the printer itself. If it works in normal fedora then it'll likely work on silverblue.
The Alpha runs like a production KDE and its the latest version. When it first came out, MicroOS was garbage and completely unusable and my Internet didn’t work. Its come a long way in such a short period of time snd its now stable enough to be a daily driver.
Do you have any experience in using your own secure boot keys (not MOK) and if so what differences would be in setting it up on this or silverblue? Most of the time I see it happen with making an efi file with kernel, initrd, and cmdline. Skipping grub entirely.
A few packages aren’t available as a flatpak and you can install them with the transactional-update pkg command and reboot. Ideally, everything you need should be present as a flatpak and it was thoughtful of the openSUSE MicroOS team to allow rpm packages to still be installed on the system in such cases. Eventually, it will all be flatpak and installing and removing software packages will be a breeze. The point of the operating system is to allow you to work and not worry about how updates are handled; you don’t even need to do those anymore and if an update crashes the system, you can go back to the previous state and continue like before. You get the benefit of a rolling system with everything kept up to date with the stability of LTS; the best of both worlds. This is what the future Adaptive Linux Platform looks and works like.
I know, you do not use a Nvidia card. But could you or anyone tell me, if its possible to use the Nvidia prop. driver with Secure Boot on an encrypted system with MicroOS? On Silverblue Its currently not working.
In the boot loader settings I believe there is a trusted boot check box in addition to secure boot. From what I read it seemed like it would work but I don’t have nvidia hardware to confirm.
I think if you're just getting started, MicroOS has the better out of the box user experience. I've just written this up today with more information that might be useful for ya: www.ypsidanger.com/comparing-opensuse-microos-to-fedora-silverblue-37/
@Jorge Castro I'm thinking about making a gaming machine using an immutable distro. I'm going to test it on hardware, I have a wifi adapter that takes a driver that needs to be installed with dkms. I wasn't able to get that working in Silverblue. However, microOS let's me install dkms, so I'm hoping I will be able to do it. I'll update here what my results are.
@@Sqwert-g6h That'd be great information, I don't really have the hardware to test but I'm sure people would love to know how the nvidia experience stacks between the two.
Ist on MicroOS PackageKit active by default Like on regular Tumbleweed? I prefer semirolling Silverblue because of Gnome Extensions. I always want a new GNOME Version, when the extension devs make their extensions available. But I hate the RPM Firefox and the Fedora Flatpak remote.
I don't think it is but I'll need to check, gnome-software seems only be enabled to do flatpaks, and as a result it seems to be way more reliable for me than it's been on anything I've used before.
flathub is not the thing i like much as it is kinda messy like the AUR you never really know who packaged what in which quality.. is there malware? is it working at all? are patched libs included or some vulnarbles packaged with it? fedora comes with its own registry and i think it is maintained directly by the fedora team.. so big plus here for silverblue. also what i would love to see is an option that the /home/$user does not get mounted nor is accessible within distrobox as a choice.. so when i decide to run some code from the web or libraries i don't want this container to be able to read my private ssh keys which are in my home folder and readable by the containeruser
@@JorgeCastro hey Jorge.. thanks for picking up. Indeed that is something might would think but if you read the man(8) or docu you will quickly see that this just set the ENV variable .. home still gets mounted under /home
Came across your channel looking for more insight into Micro OS and am pleasantly surprised by your RUclips presence. Great insight, calm, collective, informative, great on camera. Keep doing what you're doing, much appreciated. Subscribed.
Hope you eventually get Richard back on for a chat. Been using OpenSUSE Aeon for a few weeks now and absolutely loving it. I'm not a lazy dev, more of a dumb user. I use my laptop occasionally to watch movies, browse the web, check emails etc .. Aeon has been great out of the box for me, it's super easy to find and install new apps, and I never have to worry about running update commands. Its like Linux on easy mode.
I forgot to mention but it's important, there's no full disk encryption support yet. So if you need that on a laptop (like I do) that's still an area that needs to catch up.
Click on partitioning link after setting root password
Click on expert partitioner
Start with current proposal
Click on btrfs partition
Click edit
Click checkbox encrypt device
Set encryption password
I will have a demonstration up later today of it.
As a happy use of OpenSuse Aeon, thank you for the useful video!
As a huge fan of openSUSE, as can be seen by my username, I am very intrigued. Going to install this in a VM very soon.
awesome. great ideas and explanation. thanks
You are brilliant. You have a new subscriber. Before I switch a machine over, will it automatically detect and install a wireless printer and scanner like Fedora does?
yeah if it's using that new ipp driverless printer thing it'll just show up, that's what happens with mine but it depends on the printer itself. If it works in normal fedora then it'll likely work on silverblue.
Great video very informative do microOS has a KDE version ?
Yes, It is stated as Alpha yet, but works for me without issues.
The Alpha runs like a production KDE and its the latest version. When it first came out, MicroOS was garbage and completely unusable and my Internet didn’t work. Its come a long way in such a short period of time snd its now stable enough to be a daily driver.
Do you have any experience in using your own secure boot keys (not MOK) and if so what differences would be in setting it up on this or silverblue? Most of the time I see it happen with making an efi file with kernel, initrd, and cmdline. Skipping grub entirely.
And what about the kernel patches, what Grolius eggroll-s distro "Nobara" offers? Can we implemenit here as well?
A few packages aren’t available as a flatpak and you can install them with the transactional-update pkg command and reboot. Ideally, everything you need should be present as a flatpak and it was thoughtful of the openSUSE MicroOS team to allow rpm packages to still be installed on the system in such cases. Eventually, it will all be flatpak and installing and removing software packages will be a breeze. The point of the operating system is to allow you to work and not worry about how updates are handled; you don’t even need to do those anymore and if an update crashes the system, you can go back to the previous state and continue like before. You get the benefit of a rolling system with everything kept up to date with the stability of LTS; the best of both worlds.
This is what the future Adaptive Linux Platform looks and works like.
Is there a easy way to install yast GUI on micro?
Im still not sure I understand how an immutable distro is designed to handle a multi-user environment...
I know, you do not use a Nvidia card. But could you or anyone tell me, if its possible to use the Nvidia prop. driver with Secure Boot on an encrypted system with MicroOS? On Silverblue Its currently not working.
In the boot loader settings I believe there is a trusted boot check box in addition to secure boot. From what I read it seemed like it would work but I don’t have nvidia hardware to confirm.
The big tio of immutability!
Which one is currently better in your opinion, silverblue or microOS?
I think if you're just getting started, MicroOS has the better out of the box user experience. I've just written this up today with more information that might be useful for ya: www.ypsidanger.com/comparing-opensuse-microos-to-fedora-silverblue-37/
@Jorge Castro I'm thinking about making a gaming machine using an immutable distro. I'm going to test it on hardware, I have a wifi adapter that takes a driver that needs to be installed with dkms. I wasn't able to get that working in Silverblue. However, microOS let's me install dkms, so I'm hoping I will be able to do it. I'll update here what my results are.
@@Sqwert-g6h That'd be great information, I don't really have the hardware to test but I'm sure people would love to know how the nvidia experience stacks between the two.
@@Sqwert-g6h Have you tried NixOS?
Would this OS work for a gamer as well?
have you heard about alp (adaptable linux platform) im very confused about how it will be different than microos
Isn’t it just a different name……. Maybe it has commercial support but that’s about everything that could possibly be different
Ist on MicroOS PackageKit active by default Like on regular Tumbleweed? I prefer semirolling Silverblue because of Gnome Extensions. I always want a new GNOME Version, when the extension devs make their extensions available. But I hate the RPM Firefox and the Fedora Flatpak remote.
I don't think it is but I'll need to check, gnome-software seems only be enabled to do flatpaks, and as a result it seems to be way more reliable for me than it's been on anything I've used before.
Looks like there's no packagekit as far as I can tell!
flathub is not the thing i like much as it is kinda messy like the AUR you never really know who packaged what in which quality.. is there malware? is it working at all? are patched libs included or some vulnarbles packaged with it? fedora comes with its own registry and i think it is maintained directly by the fedora team.. so big plus here for silverblue.
also what i would love to see is an option that the /home/$user does not get mounted nor is accessible within distrobox as a choice.. so when i decide to run some code from the web or libraries i don't want this container to be able to read my private ssh keys which are in my home folder and readable by the containeruser
Check into the -H flag for home directory options.
@@JorgeCastro hey Jorge.. thanks for picking up. Indeed that is something might would think but if you read the man(8) or docu you will quickly see that this just set the ENV variable .. home still gets mounted under /home
an increasing number of flathub packages have a checkmark which means they are maintained by the developer
Is Gnome the only option on MicroOS?
No, KDE Plasma is also an option, but it's in alpha right now. The GNOME installation is in release candidate.
@@udekmp868kde is ridiculously stable even though it is a release candidate
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