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Tua technically has the best weapons in the NFL. A lot of times when they pay these quarterbacks it's for what they believe they can do in the future not the past.
Tua is NOT worth "Market Contract", let him play out his 5th year option and take it from there. *If Tua doesn't have a winning record against playoff teams this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on. *If Tua doesn't lead the Dolphins to a Division Title this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on. *If Tua doesn't win 1 or more playoff games this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on. *If Tua misses any games this season due to injury, Dolphins need to consider moving on. *Joe Burrow, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance *Jared Goff, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance *Jalen Hurts, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance *Matthew Stafford, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Trophy/Win *Kirk Cousins, has a Division Title, and a Playoff win *Trevor Lawrence, has a Division Title, and a Playoff win *Lamar Jackson, has a Division Title, and multiple Playoff wins *Daniel Jones has a playoff win, on the road no less *Josh Allen has multiple Division Titles and multiple Playoff wins *Patrick Mahomes has multiple Division Titles, multiple Playoff wins, 4 Superbowl Appearances and 3 Superbowl Titles/wins - He makes about $45 Million per season. Tua has ZERO Division Titles and ZERO Playoff wins. How is Tua worth as much or more than ANY of the above QB's??? He's NOT!!! Tua is NOT in the same Tier/Market as the above QB's and NO WAY the Dolphins should give him a massive extension at this point. Let him play out his 5th year and see where it goes from there
All these QSs have to realize if ythe keep driving g up their salaries how in the hell can you build a decent team around them with the money they are sucking from the salary cap?
Just make him play 1 more year. He had 1 good year stat wise. No playoff wins, very bad against good teams, and you want to pay him that much?! He is not there yet and Miami would be risking their future on a whim.
@GetawayGreg that's fine but what happens when he does great and then says I don't want to play for miami because you didn't believe in me. We would be in worse shape because I would give them the middle finger and leave
@@billycheatham2860 I really don’t think he would have the stats he has now on any other team and I think he knows that. That’s why he is pushing so hard this year. If he had a lot of confidence in himself, he would just play this year and get even richer from either the dolphins or another team.
@GetawayGreg you may be right but you can't tell me he isn't better than Lawrence. We aren't going to find anyone better than Tua so we need to pay him now before it gets even more expensive in the long run
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Just because 2 other Franchises overpaid their guys, doesn’t mean we have to! We need to trust Grier. After all, he built this team to what it is right now.
If you understand then Stop ! He’s paid for his signed contract. If he doesn’t perform this year with all the teammates he has around him then next year move on. Better yet Tag him and bench him next year on principles.
We could plug many different QBs in this offense and they would put up Tua-esque numbers or even better. Let’s ask this question, do we want a QB in the same tier as Goff and Lawrence? I’d rather have a QB in the same tier as Mahomes, Josh Allen and Lamar!
Just because that’s “the market” doesn’t mean every team has to follow. The patriots never made Tom Brady the highest paid and they were able to get players and win super bowls. Setting the market should be for elite QBs not mediocre to above average at best. Trevor Lawrence and Tua are NOT elite QBs. Tua needs a lot of help to succeed. That help is gonna cost money he is gonna eat up with this market talk. I hope for Tua sake, his agents don’t push too hard and go into the season without a new contract. Lord knows if he plays bad or has another playoff game like last season he’s definitely getting tagged.
tua yes is the man but the injury he had and the market value is because of his production. he hasn’t proved to win big games & play off wins(ik everyone was injured) keep him for the 5th year and see what his performance.
Miami don't need to give him a extension he is under contract he need show Miami he can win a playoff game if he hold out then play Thompson if he work out trading or franchise tua is a option play hard Ball he is not that good
Yeah they haven't done anything, they didn't get Hill, Waddle, Moestert, Armstead, Achan, Ingold, Williams, etc. They haven't done anything, Tua has been great without any help. Tua is the greatest qb ever.
You can't both build an offense to make the QB better AND pay a top tier QB. I say trade Reek at the end of the year and let Waddle be the #1 receiver. We have fast guys, not Reek fast but I think we'll be fine.
If they won the division last year, no matter what happened in the playoffs, they'd pay him. Or if they had managed to pull out the game against KC. He failed to do either and that's why we're here. Best season or not, result was the same
If they didn't sign Wilkins to big deal it's not going to Happen with Tua, why pay him now anyways he hasn't proven anything other than he can lead league in passing.
FinsFans, we're either going to anoint mediocrity or bless majesty. Tua doesn't deserve an extension on the level of $50K+ at all. He hasn't win a playoff game yet, he's 1-11 against playoff caliber opponents, and he's been questionable with health issues repeatedly, which is unfortunate. Goff- Won 4 playoff games, played in a SB and ignited an entire franchise in Detroit as a legitimate threat. Lawrence- Won a PLAYOFF game in a comeback, has been health most of his career up until this season, and he doesn't even deserve the extension he got.... Love- Won a PLAYOFF game, sat on the bench up til last year and still has more to prove he to DOESN'T deserve an extension yet. We should be extending the CHEETAH, Holland and that's it. If we reward mediocrity then we'll stay as such...!
Obviously, the dolphins don't believe in Tua and feel he needs way too much help to be successful. If this is true, why not try and make moves to move up in the draft and get a QB? dolphins absolutely botched this one in typical fashion
I also didn't do it I'm in the dolphins should be better for two weeks two were talking about lower it's way better than both of them fools he can play better than both of them you can feel better than both of them
He is a good qb, he is not great. Market value is not the same for everyone, just because other teams are excessively stupid in overpaying their qb's , does not mean that Miami needs to overpay him.
this is what happens when stupid people are in charge of a franchise. They never believed in Tua yet gave the impression that they wanted to sign him long term hoping he would accept a cheaper contract. Obviously, Tua believes he is worth Mahmoes money which he obviously isn't. After the disaster we had at the end of the season, we should have done everything we could to move on and move up in the draft for another QB. stupid stupid stupid
The more i listen to this guy, the more clueless he sounds. Tua is not in the same ball park Jared . He is a Superbowl winner. Plus Tua has better players on his team than the other two guys. Tua was a scrub with Hill and Mcdaniel.
You have tunnel vision about stats people keep and lose their jobs with wins and losses not stats, that goes for players coach’s even the general manager. He hasn’t won against playoff teams and pads his stats against bad teams. As far as this fake market value talk is a joke his not a free agent where teams are bidding for on the open market Miami is the one team that can give him the money so it’s what Miami is will to pay not what other teams are paying there QB’s he’s stuck with Miami if they want home for 2 more years if he wants big money win big games.
Tua should let them tag him the two years and not agree to a long term extension, and then leave miami to rot in the basement again for another 20 years searching for another qb. Miami is being cheap and is doing Tua wrong. Tua should just say screw you and not want to be here. Fans act like it's their money. Pay him or lose any chance of being good
What people seem not to understand is the fact that without Tua, the market is low on good to elite QBs cos all the starter QBs are in no hurry to leave their present teams to join Miami. So, yeah good luck with waiting another 20 years to get to the playoffs or even ever!!!! It would seem we are stuck with TUA whether we like him or not. Not sure if giving him another year is a good choice...but I do understand the standpoint of it. Guy stills needs to approve he has the sauce....
One comparison you missed with the Trevor-Tua comparison is that Tua didn’t really play a full first season. If he did play that season and started instead of Fitz, what would he number look like. I am not obsessed about that comparison. We need to get Tua signed period at least at market value. Trevor was at 3-14 as a rookie.
When you’re comparing Tua and Trevor side by side why don’t you add in rushing TDS and rushing yds? He’s far superior in that category and he’s put up identical numbers surrounded by far less talent. Goff is far better and has been to the Super Bowl! Took the Lions farther than they’ve ever been! This shit is crazy… Tua is not the answer. Stop hangin your coat on such a weak hanger.
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Super concerned smfh... Miami what are u doing
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Tua technically has the best weapons in the NFL. A lot of times when they pay these quarterbacks it's for what they believe they can do in the future not the past.
1)Then show up for big games. 2) win a playoff game. 3) win games when starter are out! 4) take the team to higher level.
facts!!!
Thank you!!
Marino made one super bowl in 17 years and Tua has the same amount of SB wins. 0
He didn't show up in big games
100000===REALTALK!!!!
They stacked this team for TUA and he should take a team friendly deal
Totally agree 👍💯
What is a team friendly deal. Waddle’s contract or Hills contract???
@@barryb903 no 48 million a year
Tua is NOT worth "Market Contract", let him play out his 5th year option and take it from there.
*If Tua doesn't have a winning record against playoff teams this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on.
*If Tua doesn't lead the Dolphins to a Division Title this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on.
*If Tua doesn't win 1 or more playoff games this season, Dolphins need to consider moving on.
*If Tua misses any games this season due to injury, Dolphins need to consider moving on.
*Joe Burrow, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance
*Jared Goff, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance
*Jalen Hurts, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Appearance
*Matthew Stafford, has a Division Title, multiple Playoff wins and a Superbowl Trophy/Win
*Kirk Cousins, has a Division Title, and a Playoff win
*Trevor Lawrence, has a Division Title, and a Playoff win
*Lamar Jackson, has a Division Title, and multiple Playoff wins
*Daniel Jones has a playoff win, on the road no less
*Josh Allen has multiple Division Titles and multiple Playoff wins
*Patrick Mahomes has multiple Division Titles, multiple Playoff wins, 4 Superbowl Appearances and 3 Superbowl Titles/wins - He makes about $45 Million per season.
Tua has ZERO Division Titles and ZERO Playoff wins. How is Tua worth as much or more than ANY of the above QB's??? He's NOT!!!
Tua is NOT in the same Tier/Market as the above QB's and NO WAY the Dolphins should give him a massive extension at this point. Let him play out his 5th year and see where it goes from there
Damn 😱… Awesome reality check for Tua… We need your words posted in the contract and let Chat Sports read these hard Corp FACTS!!!
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All these QSs have to realize if ythe keep driving g up their salaries how in the hell can you build a decent team around them with the money they are sucking from the salary cap?
$329.4 million is the new cap. It’s what every team has to work with. How are all the other teams managing to sign these big QB deals?
Just make him play 1 more year. He had 1 good year stat wise. No playoff wins, very bad against good teams, and you want to pay him that much?! He is not there yet and Miami would be risking their future on a whim.
@GetawayGreg that's fine but what happens when he does great and then says I don't want to play for miami because you didn't believe in me. We would be in worse shape because I would give them the middle finger and leave
@@billycheatham2860 franchise him then. Way more risky to pile out all that money, and have him have a mediocre year or worse, get hurt.
@@GetawayGreg he doesn't have to sign it, and I wouldn't
@@billycheatham2860 I really don’t think he would have the stats he has now on any other team and I think he knows that. That’s why he is pushing so hard this year. If he had a lot of confidence in himself, he would just play this year and get even richer from either the dolphins or another team.
@GetawayGreg you may be right but you can't tell me he isn't better than Lawrence. We aren't going to find anyone better than Tua so we need to pay him now before it gets even more expensive in the long run
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no make tua play his 5th year prove it year!!!!
@@randygrant4912 then he wouldn't want to come back if he plays great. Then we lose him
@randygrant4912 I wouldn't come back if I was him unless I made them over pay to make them regret it
@@billycheatham2860 not going to happen!!!THATPART!!
@@billycheatham2860 OWELL NEXT QB UP!!
@randygrant4912 that's why we haven't won anything since 73
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Obviously they don't really believe in Tua...smart
Just because 2 other Franchises overpaid their guys, doesn’t mean we have to! We need to trust Grier. After all, he built this team to what it is right now.
Tua will never have a better opportunity than in Miami. He needs to sign the offer.
If you understand then Stop ! He’s paid for his signed contract. If he doesn’t perform this year with all the teammates he has around him then next year move on. Better yet Tag him and bench him next year on principles.
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Over rated…👏👏👏👏👏👏. Over rated 👏👏👏👏👏👏
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I mean, we are talking about the Miami Dolphins, this is what we do we play rock head games with our players
Skill players in Miami are far better than Jacksonville ...put Lawrence in Miami and he would by far out-shine Tua!
We could plug many different QBs in this offense and they would put up Tua-esque numbers or even better. Let’s ask this question, do we want a QB in the same tier as Goff and Lawrence? I’d rather have a QB in the same tier as Mahomes, Josh Allen and Lamar!
do not get locked into a quarterback that can’t win big games not worth the money
It takes a team to win a game.
Just because that’s “the market” doesn’t mean every team has to follow. The patriots never made Tom Brady the highest paid and they were able to get players and win super bowls. Setting the market should be for elite QBs not mediocre to above average at best. Trevor Lawrence and Tua are NOT elite QBs. Tua needs a lot of help to succeed. That help is gonna cost money he is gonna eat up with this market talk. I hope for Tua sake, his agents don’t push too hard and go into the season without a new contract. Lord knows if he plays bad or has another playoff game like last season he’s definitely getting tagged.
I have a feeling that they’re going to let him play out the year and then let em go in free agency next year
I like your offer Rolly, Chris Grier is beside himself- Is Stephen Ross in trouble financially? Don't get it.
tua yes is the man but the injury he had and the market value is because of his production. he hasn’t proved to win big games & play off wins(ik everyone was injured) keep him for the 5th year and see what his performance.
No way
yes get it done. Just becoming a distraction
It will get settled darlington cant release what fins offered
Miami don't need to give him a extension he is under contract he need show Miami he can win a playoff game if he hold out then play Thompson if he work out trading or franchise tua is a option play hard Ball he is not that good
They still got to pay Hill. Wr is the new qb on the pay scale this year
Management has issues with Tua. What has the management tried to do since he arrived
Yeah they haven't done anything, they didn't get Hill, Waddle, Moestert, Armstead, Achan, Ingold, Williams, etc. They haven't done anything, Tua has been great without any help. Tua is the greatest qb ever.
You can't both build an offense to make the QB better AND pay a top tier QB. I say trade Reek at the end of the year and let Waddle be the #1 receiver. We have fast guys, not Reek fast but I think we'll be fine.
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best to overpay a little early. really too late now. they effed up.
If they won the division last year, no matter what happened in the playoffs, they'd pay him. Or if they had managed to pull out the game against KC. He failed to do either and that's why we're here. Best season or not, result was the same
Tua has not won a playoff game and definitely does not perform against superior competition
Wait until he plays Jordan Love
stop saying 50 gauranteed when its not for golf
If they didn't sign Wilkins to big deal it's not going to Happen with Tua, why pay him now anyways he hasn't proven anything other than he can lead league in passing.
FinsFans, we're either going to anoint mediocrity or bless majesty.
Tua doesn't deserve an extension on the level of $50K+ at all. He hasn't win a playoff game yet, he's 1-11 against playoff caliber opponents, and he's been questionable with health issues repeatedly, which is unfortunate.
Goff- Won 4 playoff games, played in a SB and ignited an entire franchise in Detroit as a legitimate threat.
Lawrence- Won a PLAYOFF game in a comeback, has been health most of his career up until this season, and he doesn't even deserve the extension he got....
Love- Won a PLAYOFF game, sat on the bench up til last year and still has more to prove he to DOESN'T deserve an extension yet.
We should be extending the CHEETAH, Holland and that's it.
If we reward mediocrity then we'll stay as such...!
Obviously, the dolphins don't believe in Tua and feel he needs way too much help to be successful. If this is true, why not try and make moves to move up in the draft and get a QB? dolphins absolutely botched this one in typical fashion
Pay Tua!!!!
They should stop fucking around with Tua he is an awesome QB it would not surprise me that the Dolphin's screw around and loose him
When they do lose him he won’t do shit anywhere else.
They are just giving y'all something to talk about 😂😅
His salary should start in the 40,s range.cant win in cold weather injury prone and lots of weapons.im in my 50,s and i could win with this roater.
I also didn't do it I'm in the dolphins should be better for two weeks two were talking about lower it's way better than both of them fools he can play better than both of them you can feel better than both of them
TUA. Should be paid. He’s a good quarterback.
He is a good qb, he is not great. Market value is not the same for everyone, just because other teams are excessively stupid in overpaying their qb's , does not mean that Miami needs to overpay him.
Robbing the fans of a playoff home game, losing the division averaging 7 points per game the last 6 games down the stretch he’s not good enough
this is what happens when stupid people are in charge of a franchise. They never believed in Tua yet gave the impression that they wanted to sign him long term hoping he would accept a cheaper contract. Obviously, Tua believes he is worth Mahmoes money which he obviously isn't. After the disaster we had at the end of the season, we should have done everything we could to move on and move up in the draft for another QB. stupid stupid stupid
Pay the man. Ridiculous
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The more i listen to this guy, the more clueless he sounds. Tua is not in the same ball park Jared . He is a Superbowl winner. Plus Tua has better players on his team than the other two guys. Tua was a scrub with Hill and Mcdaniel.
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Ha Ha I remember when the Tua haters were wringing their hands about paying him $35 M a season. I hope Tua holds in til he gets market value.
You have tunnel vision about stats people keep and lose their jobs with wins and losses not stats, that goes for players coach’s even the general manager. He hasn’t won against playoff teams and pads his stats against bad teams. As far as this fake market value talk is a joke his not a free agent where teams are bidding for on the open market Miami is the one team that can give him the money so it’s what Miami is will to pay not what other teams are paying there QB’s he’s stuck with Miami if they want home for 2 more years if he wants big money win big games.
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Tua should let them tag him the two years and not agree to a long term extension, and then leave miami to rot in the basement again for another 20 years searching for another qb. Miami is being cheap and is doing Tua wrong. Tua should just say screw you and not want to be here. Fans act like it's their money. Pay him or lose any chance of being good
What people seem not to understand is the fact that without Tua, the market is low on good to elite QBs cos all the starter QBs are in no hurry to leave their present teams to join Miami. So, yeah good luck with waiting another 20 years to get to the playoffs or even ever!!!! It would seem we are stuck with TUA whether we like him or not. Not sure if giving him another year is a good choice...but I do understand the standpoint of it. Guy stills needs to approve he has the sauce....
Love will get even more. Then what? Get it done. This is foul.
They better not be trying to hawk tua
One comparison you missed with the Trevor-Tua comparison is that Tua didn’t really play a full first season. If he did play that season and started instead of Fitz, what would he number look like. I am not obsessed about that comparison. We need to get Tua signed period at least at market value. Trevor was at 3-14 as a rookie.
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When you’re comparing Tua and Trevor side by side why don’t you add in rushing TDS and rushing yds? He’s far superior in that category and he’s put up identical numbers surrounded by far less talent. Goff is far better and has been to the Super Bowl! Took the Lions farther than they’ve ever been! This shit is crazy… Tua is not the answer. Stop hangin your coat on such a weak hanger.
Should have signed Cousins...Tua is a no go nothing elite about Tua!
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