This was, perhaps, the fairest review of the Baofeng HT's that I've sent to date. You also touched on the FCC letter which has spurred erroneous errors. Thanks for making it clear to everyone.
@@brianmadonna2873 You can get UV-5's in 8 Watts, still won't get to China though, unless you have a friend named China that lives within a couple miles. LOL!
I like the straight forward and honest review and you just got a new sub. I want to hear both good and bad points about these radios. The UV-5R is what is getting me into the HAM radio hobby. I got a deal on a six pack of UV-5R kits (radio, extra battery, extra long antenna, external mic, USB interface cable) so I bought it since everything was less than $180. I have been studying for the tests and plan on taking the Technician, General, and Amateur Extra in May providing we are past this COVID event. It’s something that has been on the back burner for years (decades) and now that I have the time I am making the best of it.
A lot of famous guitarists had Sears guitars (or equivalents) as their first instruments. What might have happened to them if they had been forced to all buy Les Paul's before they were even allowed to start playing? If there had been some kind of snooty guitar club, that probably would have been the case; and we'd all be poorer for it.
I have 2 UV-5R radios. I plan on buying several more in the near future, to augment camping gear, family vehicles, “bug out” bags, etc., and the extended-life batteries. As you stated about battery life, I haven’t yet run one of my radios less than 5 days (in stand-by) before needing recharge... 4 days if I’m listening to commercial FM radio, and that’s with the “shorty” that was included with the radios. I think they’re a good starter’s and/or emergency kit radio. To be completely honest, the only thing I’d ask they’d update would be to make the radios at least water resistant, if not water proof.
Excellent starter radio as your first entry into the hobby! I still keep one in my truck every day. It taught me a lot about programming, offsets, PL tones, etc. I’ve had great success with the Nagoya antennas, roll-up j-poles when I travel, and I use KB9VBR’s copper J-pole at home as a base station antenna. I can peg repeaters 40 miles away and talk to Australia on IRLP. One of my favorite hobbies is using the Baofeng along with KB9VBR’s home brew “Tape Measure Yagi” to make satellite contacts! Not too shabby for a $35 HT in my opinion. I am definitely in the “savior of the hobby” camp. Keep up the great work Michael! I’ve learned so much from your channel as a new Ham. 73’s!
I just got my Technician license after a friend gifted me a Baofeng UV-5R. I've come across all sorts of feedback for and against these units and I've recently been using SDR to get a birds eye view of the transmission. I really appreciate your videos and how well you covered this without being dogmatic on the matter. Thumbs up.
I found mine on Facebook marketplace for $15. It’s the reason I ended up getting my tech and then going for the general. I’ve had so much fun I’m going for my extra in the fall
Thank you Michael for a great review. I'm currently studying for my Technician license and have 2 of the UV-5R's. I have been able to listen in on the PAPA system in Southern California. I listen to the more seasoned operators as they discuss all topics on Ham radio and this, in itself, has been a great learning experience.
I purchased the BTECH UV-5x3 Tri-Band radios. Upgraded the antenna to the Nagoya Na-320a Tri-band Antenna. Studying for my technician license now. Thanks for the video.
I've been using radios my entire life in some form or another but never a ham because the price etc... Recently with the apocalypse happening I decided to take the plunge when someone told me about these little units. Got one on the way now. Far easier to start with than a complex mega system.
Last October, I purchased the Baofeng BF-F9V2+ model as it is tri-powered and had great features for a $50 HT. At that time, I was studying for my tech license but before I passed the test, I bought a Yaesu FT-60. I now also own a AnyTone AT-D868UV with DMR. I keep the Baofeng as a emergency "Prepper" radio since it will transmit outside of the ham bands. I like it myself.
A neat replacement of the UV5R line is the UV-82 series. They qualify for Part 90 certification, and the spurious emissions issue had been fixed by a great extent. UV-82s can be found on sale for 30-40$.
The UV-82 (2M/70cm) was my first radio, purchased before I got my license. After listening with it for a while, studied for my test, and got my General. I’m not sure I would have gotten into amateur radio if I had to buy a much more expensive HT first. For that, I think the Baofengs serve a purpose.
I have 3 UV-5R radios. They are great radios considering the price. And like you said, the batteries last forever. Great review! Highly recommend these affordable radios for beginners.
Thank you for a fair comparison and not calling the UV-5R and it’s operator trash. I bought a pair of them as a restart in the hobby and have been attacked by old hams for owning them. I don’t have the spare cash for a Kenwood, I-Com or Yaesu.
I think it's great as a starter radio and as a backup. Everyone should also check out the Baofeng BF-F8HP which is similar but can transmit at up to 8 Watts. They have batteries and other accessories that are interchangeable with the UV-5R so you could get a long life battery or antenna for either and it works great. I would not recommend transmitting at 8 Watts with the HT next to your head, so get an earpiece or external mic. GREAT VIDEO
My first impression was with the UV3R when they hit the market a friend of mine bought one, and my first comment was " Oh it probably has spurs bigger than the fundamental frequency. But the thing that did impress me was the size ! that thing was tiny! and here is the killer!. was the audio quality coming out of that little package. both on Tx and RX ! I could not believe the fidelity etc. a lot of good audio quality (to my old ears anyway) and I was sold. I had assumed it met FCC requirements in order to be sold here in the USA. It is a great package no matter what your need at a price anyone can afford. I think it is a great tool to draw in new hams .
I bought a UV9R 15W waterproof 8,000 mAh battery to add to my preparedness kit. These videos are great for learning. I only need it in case of a disaster and need to call for help.
Thanks. Great video. I entered the hobby with GT-5R (supposed to be cleaner) and have had great results with your tape measure yagi on a 2 meter simplex net here in middle Tennessee.
I think that the Baofeng radios are a good way to start people out in Amateur radio. They may not be sure it is what they want to get into, and if you start showing them $300 handheld radios, they may just try to stick to FRS or GMRS and never grow amateur radio. I have a couple of the UV-5R;s, and I also have a way to hook two up as repeaters. That way if I find some of the people out in the country that want to communicate, they will have a cheaper way to get involved. Living on the Gulf Coast, it is also good to have my family members armed with some type of device to talk to each other with, and me and another have full up ham shacks for everything else. Don't knock equipment, find a way to get people involved.
I got started about 2 years ago and, shocker, my first transceiver was one of these forsaken radios, in particular a BTECH UV-5X3. I wanted to see what sort of activity there was on 220 and the radio seemed to be a slight upgrade from the more run of the mill UV-5R. I don't regret it but admit that I've done more listening than transmitting with it. I upgraded to Yaesu rigs not long after and have no regrets either way.
I didn’t get to the 2 minute point of this video by the time I hit the like button. This was a great straight to the point video. I know nothing about ham radio. This was very informative. Thank you
My daughter me and another ham were part of a group of about 30 people that went kaiaking, canoeing and tubing down the upper iowa river, (no cell service) it was nice for us 3 to be able to use our cheap Baofengs to help the group stay in touch when we were scattered over 3 miles of river at times. I never had to worry about them getting lost because they were so cheap. one of them did get wet and honestly it did not even phase it. I would not be using some expensive radio for that type of event.
I tested 2 different Baofeng model radios after bringing asked what their spurious emission levels were. Much to my surprise both met FCC emission limits as measured on my Rohde & Schwarz CMA180 communications test set (this is a brand new instrument still in factory calibration). One was a dual band and the other a tri band radio. Both had a maximum spurious emission of between 65 to 70 db down from fundamental. I honestly thought they would be around 50db down. Receive is another story. Broad as a barn door best describes the receivers but considering what they cost I think it's acceptable.
A great informative and unbiased review on this little HT. I have several different Baofeng HT's and no doubt will get a few more as time passes. Over here in the UK our Foundation licence holders (Tech in the US) have access to all the bands except 60mtrs so most fly off to the HF side of things, but some remain on the VHF/UHF spectrum as our repeater system offers some contacts and rag chewing. As I said earlier, I run several of these little chinese radios, namely x2 UV5R's, 1 GT-3TP and my latest being a Retevis RT87, I do have a Yaesu VX-6 for added fun. These are cheap, reasonably reliable and a very cost effective radio and we give them away free to scouts who pass their Foundation as a starter radio. If I was to be critical of anything, which is contrary to your test, that would be that they can be very quiet on TX. Thanks again Michael.
Some of these have that issue, if you have some tech skills it can be improved. I didn't want to go the soldering route so on mine I just increased the mic hole slightly. Made a big difference
Great video ! I have four Baofengs . They were great starter radios. I don't know if I would have gotten into the hobby if my first radio had been $300-$500.
I have an uv5r which has been running 24 x 7 for about 3 years now, it's running an aprs repeater so sees frequent tx/rx traffic. If this is typical Chinese quality then I am ok with it.
Just go back into Ham Radio after a 20 year hiatus and bought an F8HP and it works as good as the higher end Yaesu. Will be using it primarily for direct Air to Air com with my Powered Para Glider. Thanks for review 73 K1YOU...
There was a running joke back in 2014 that anyone with a call sign starting with KG7.... owned a Baofeng UV5R. Its funny because its true. All joking aside, the inexpensive entry point of the UV-5R is what got me into ham radio. I got my ticket in Dec '13 and yes, my call sign starts with KG7. I do believe these radios did much more good than harm bringing in new licensed operators. The local ham club doubled in size in 2014 and brought in funds to fix up the local repeater. At least for my area at the time, these radios breathed in new life to the hobby.
Thanks for the test. I have 3 uv5r's. Great little radio. I also have a yaesu ft60. My concern was the receive. I've noticed that when near the cordless cable that is in our area. It put out a rd signal that will keep the squelch open on the uv5r. Yaesu is fine. But I use it more away from home anyway. So maybe you could test the receive for the folks . Thanks again.
I own three or the BTech radios and you are right the battery last really well. But I prefer me FT1XD for its better sound quality on FM and it’s ease of operation.
@Thuff is it worth the extra money for better FM? I am still looking for a technician license beginner's radio. I thought about going with a mobile radio. It could also be used at home as well. But I may go hand held first. It's still a decision I must make.
@@thuff3207 wow I just looked at a btech murs radio I was thinking for my wife and I. Because she don't hold a Ham license. I myself will try a btech ham handheld. I want something on 2 meters and maybe 6 meters as well, other bands are just a plus.
What about SSB? it seems like these companies think fm only is the only way for these upper frequencies. SSB is good for distance. I tuned on my receiver and there is nothing on the high bands above 2 meters. I would rather have a transceiver that includes 10, 6, 2 Meters I really don't care if I don't get UHF. Back to square one.
I believe they are great starter radios, I started out with a WouXun uvd1p, was cheep and got me started into the hobby by scanning then ending up getting my licence. I ended up upgrading to a Yaesu FT2 in the long run but have it as a backup! Thanks for the videos, always informative.
Got a UV-5R attacked to mounted j-pole on my roof. I also have a Nagoya 771 for when I am walking around. I like these little radios, especially after I got a decent shoulder mic. These are great for Techs, I am into my rig for a total of just over $100 with extended battery/USB charging, programming cable, a pair of 771's (two is one and one is none) and a molle radio pocket that I can wear on my belt. I really want/need to get a second 5R for when this one dies. Next purchase in radios for me is a 'mobile' 2m/70cm for the shack and a 2m mobile for the car.
BF's are good enough for many things. My brand Y HT cost a lot more, and is more capable, but at it's price, it pretty frequently stays safe back in the shack. Best receiving HT I ever had was brand K, and I wish I had kept it, but a new battery for it cost 3X a complete set of 2 BF's, 4 batteries, 2 improved antennas, speaker mics, etc.
Prior to taking a Technician class at a nearby ham club, I decided to purchase a Baofeng UV-F8HP so that if I wasn't satisfied it would be a cheap throwaway. During the class there was a demonstration of Net, and most of the hams, including Amateur Extras, were using Baofeng radios. I am using the F8HP for the car, along with a battery eliminator and a Nagoya car mount antenna. I've since added two Baofeng UV-5RX3 radios to explore the 1.25 meter band. Had I had to purchase a Yaesu I probably would not have taken the course nor the Technician and General exams. 73. KC3NGQ
Just last week, Jim W6LG, had a couple of videos up about the legality of Baofengs for amateur use, he seems to have taken them down as of today. I have a few UV5Rs and once I got past the programming woes, I like them. They're not my primary HTs (I have a couple of FT-60s), but they're good backups, and great for trudging around the bush without a concern for losing or killing one. Cheers! Chris - NI7I
A great, and truthful review. The FCC ruling that these Baofeng radios are illegal was an erroneous statement from the FCC in the first place. Amateur operators can use anything, even Bobbi pins to make a radio as long as they transmit on authorized frequencies, and don't cause harmful interference. The FCC can issue directives to importers about radio equipment they sell to the general public. Keep in mind the FCC has tested and certified you to use a certain portion of the spectrum. As an amateur, that's all you have to obey. If the FCC wants to keep these radios out of the hands of the general public, the solution is simple. Require retailers to check the FCC database for licensure before shipping. There are a lot of lies out there from people saying that they tested the radio and they got all types of 3rd order harmonics that exceeded FCC guidelines. I have never believed any of them. I find that these are operators who can't believe that what they paid $ 400.00 for can be picked up for $19.00 from China.
The FCC doesn't care if people use illegal power without licenses, as long as you don't transmit on emergency frequencies. But that's impossible because every one is encoded. I've been transmitting on amateur radio frequencies for years and no feds ever came to my door or called. The FCC has bigger priorities and it's time consuming/expensive to track "criminals" engaging in friendly conversations on frequencies no one else uses.
I've been getting notifications that you have a new video out, and when I go to check...there aren't any. Not sure what the glitch is, but I figured I'd you might want to know.
I've been doing some live stream tests this week in preparation for my live broadcast event on Friday. The notifications may be due to that. The tests were supposed to be unlisted. But with RUclips, who really know what is happening.
I agree with you . I have 2 uv5r . I got my tech ticket last Dec. It has been a great low cost radio. If you are on a tight budget . They fit the bill . I only paid $20 each for mine . Did not expect much . They work very well for my needs .
Yes the Baufeng is a great starter radio I wish they had these when I got started as a kid I was craving a handheld radio and even the used ones were way out of my price range back in the day! With these cheaper radios you can Elmer a kid and give them a radio to get started on! I honestly thing there is more to this issue then meets the eye ,I think the big 3 radio manufacturers got with the FCC and through up a stink about these radio and started crying that they are cutting into there profits! Yes these cheap Chinese radio may not be the best but if I were a kid and got one as a new ham that would be fantastic!
@@dr.hillbilly503 Yes , I got the license. Thanks for asking. I was not able to buy radio since corona virus lockdown started here immediately after I had got my license.
I'll stick with my Kenwoods and Yaesus. They've been good for me. I started with a Yaesu VX-5A (I'm not sure if that is the correct model number). I moved on to the Kenwood triple band (2m, 1.25m, 70cm) which is a great radio. The cost is not all that high, far less than a handheld scanner that can receive most of the multiple modulation methods now being used (Digital P25 Phase 1 and Phase 2, NXDM, etc.). One of those can set you back over $800 depending on if you choose all the options. I've seen someone testing one of these things and they don't have the correct signal widths, bleeding over onto adjacent frequencies. I can't seem to find the videos. The biggest problem is the offband transmission capability.
I have 5 Baofengs and a Yaesu FT3D, cos they're cool. Planning on getting my license once the in-person exams are on again after The Plague settles down enough. Be nice to actually use them for more than just scanning emergency services. I don't transmit illegally. 8:42... it's not tough at all. The Baofeng sounded deeper and richer, the Yaesu, harsher, all treble. The Baofeng was way more pleasant to listen to.
@@freedomloverusa3030 No, I think they're doing online exams while everyone has The Plague. But it's an onerous effort. You have to (from recollection) have 3 webcams, one up close on your hands, one up close under the desk (to show you don't have a cheat sheet on your lap ?!?), and one overall view. I may have that wrong. But I do remember thinking, sod that for a palaver, I'll wait till I can do a walk in...
I have two UV-5R units now, and intend to use one as a vox-activated FOX in Fox Hunting. I don't really care about how many harmonics it has, or how clean it is, should I? It's cheap and efficient, and can be used to lure in Ham's with yaggi or directional antennae from 3 miles out. How about you do a program or segment on how they are used and can't be used in Fox Hunt?
Wow! I actually prefer the audio from the Baofeng during your test! The Yaesu souns tinny to me. In fact, if you listen carefully to the audio, on the Yaesu, you can here a hum. It would interesting to play those audio clips through a graphic analyzer on the computer to view it. 73 & thanks for your vids Micheal.
@@wprunkard , I never intended to transmit until licensed . I wanted something that would allow me to see how other people use them and if I actually need a license or just save my money and listen .
If you live int he city a handheld is fine for a first radio. If you live rural? Plan on 50 watts and decent antenna as high as you can get it! And for rural people don't overlook 2m SSB/CW/Digital, range is far greater than FM, use a decent horizontal antenna and 100 mile range every day is easy! If band conditions are up a bit 350+++ miles can be done. With 160 watts and 2 large beams(2M5WL by M2) I made a 1550 mile contact! SSB! And several moon bounce contacts using CW!
What I dont like about some of these videos is people do not say point blank "I recommend this as your starter above all others" and then say why 3 other near misses were not as good.
As a new Ham I have the Beofeng and honestly, not a fan. I do live in the city so maybe that's the real issue. Thankfully, my brother in law is hooking me up with a donor radio for a home base. He's also looking into after market antennas to see what can be done with my Beofeng. Im really looking forward to getting into the hobby. 73
You hit the nail in the head. Baofeng handhelds have poor receive filtering and their front-end receivers can easily be overwhelmed by the myriad of RF signals found in an urban environment.
I think the UV-5R is a great starter radio. A new HAM can pick one up for very little money and play around on the bands. If I am any indicator, anyone getting into HAM will start buying better equipment before too long anyway.
Amateur radio is not the CB Nation, the majority of our hobby are gentlemen agreements and the honor system. The FCC for the most part has a hand off approach. I have two Baofeng eight watt radios, on the FRS/GMRS frequencies I program it to legal power levels, the amateur radio frequencies are programmed with the correct inputs, I also use them on the public service bands, which I'm authorized to do. It's also important to note that any legal amateur radio can be altered to transmit out of our band assignments, usually with the simple snipping of a resistor.
Most amateurs start on the VHF 2 meter band. 146.520 Mhz is the national simplex frequency so you may find activity there. Otherwise www.repeaterbook.com has a list of amateur radio repeaters in your area to monitor.
The UV-5R was my first radio. The price was the main factor that got me into the hobby. I now have a more expensive H/T and mobiles, but like you, I have a few 5R’s as backups. Without my first 5R, I wouldn’t be into the amateur radio hobby. KD9NJJ
I would not recommend usage out of ham bands other than as a receiver, there is a lot more to compliance than frequency of operation and power levels. I have 6 or so UV-5Rs, they are handy, quite rugged and with great battery life. They are interesting technology, basically an SDR, spectrally they are not great and they do not perform as well as most conventional dual band handhelds. And yes I have checked one for transmit spectrum. There is something wrong with the market though when I could buy 3 of these for less than the cost of the battey for one of my Yaesus.....
These radios are good for a first radio, especially if price is a major factor. They are difficult for me to program manually, but with the right programming software and cable, you are OK.
The Baofeng sounded better, I have a couple BaoFeng 8watt BF-F8HPs, however I have a Yaesu ft-991A for a base station rig I'm setting up. I'm studying for my Technician test at the moment though.
I started with a baofeng, then a TYT mobile rig (that I love) then recently got suckered into a TYT MD UV380. DMR is interesting but, adjusting the code plug is a full time second job. 3 weeks of messing with it and I’m still only listening. I’m still confused by the whole thing.
They work for what they are. Where I live they are not that useful... 30 miles to the nearest repeater... I keep one in the truck for emergency use but for day to day? 50 watt mobile rig in the truck and house. But I don't operate much FM, I prefer 2m weak signal... Yacking with the guys down around Sioux Falls as I type this on 144.200, 125 miles from me. A couple of the guys are 150+ miles away. They are copyable tonight but band conditions suck. When the band is normal they are S9 plus. 2mSSB of course, horizontal antennas... no repeater, simplex
I would say if can afford to I'd spend just few more bucks and get something like the new cheaper yaesu's ht or other similar brands. Better filtering and things for not much more
@@KB9VBRAntennas There is some discussion as to whether or not the FT4-XR actually is a Baofeng... www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?topic=121916.0 qrpblog.com/2018/09/yaesu-ft-4x-review-it-is-after-all-a-baofeng/
The Baofeng's are perfect "throw away" radios where there is a high risk of damage or theft. So they get left where my expensive Yeasu's would NEVER be left unattended.
LordTimelord - another point I missed, thank you! I’m not nearly as careful with my UV’s as I am with my other radios. If I happen to leave it laying on the passenger seat, I’d rather be out $30 and a window, rather than $300-&500 and a window.
Yup, the front end is pretty loose and let in alot of interference. I use them all the time when I worry about dropping, misplacing ect. I keep one in the truck for cross banding. In all honesty, if a fire department, or a business, flagging crew, ect use a uv5r for coms in a legal frequency area for their use, what the hell makes the difference. If a boater used one on marine VHF, big deal. How long have people been using a kilowatt on CB band???? Whats worse??
I am a new to ham lady :) I have a baofang also, before I knew about the controversy. How do I find a ham club? I need help programming my radios, and do not own a computer for the crisper?, I believe its called?, to program the radios... I'm in Oregon ♡♡♡ thank you :)
Mine was and I'd strongly suggest to not buy one unless you want to get frustrated and not go further in the hobby. Grab a Yaesu FT2DR and you wont be disappointed
Everyone knows TIDRAIDO is the best. Especially the H8 Ham Radio with 10 watts of output and a cool color screen and long lasting battery you should consider it.
This was, perhaps, the fairest review of the Baofeng HT's that I've sent to date. You also touched on the FCC letter which has spurred erroneous errors. Thanks for making it clear to everyone.
Its only 5 watts don't think its sending anything back to China lol
@@brianmadonna2873 You can get UV-5's in 8 Watts, still won't get to China though, unless you have a friend named China that lives within a couple miles. LOL!
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I genuinely preferred the Baofeng sound quality and really thought that was the Yaesu!
Me too.
Me too.
Three is company.
I like the straight forward and honest review and you just got a new sub. I want to hear both good and bad points about these radios. The UV-5R is what is getting me into the HAM radio hobby. I got a deal on a six pack of UV-5R kits (radio, extra battery, extra long antenna, external mic, USB interface cable) so I bought it since everything was less than $180. I have been studying for the tests and plan on taking the Technician, General, and Amateur Extra in May providing we are past this COVID event. It’s something that has been on the back burner for years (decades) and now that I have the time I am making the best of it.
A lot of famous guitarists had Sears guitars (or equivalents) as their first instruments. What might have happened to them if they had been forced to all buy Les Paul's before they were even allowed to start playing? If there had been some kind of snooty guitar club, that probably would have been the case; and we'd all be poorer for it.
all I know is...SLAYERRR!
Excellent analogy!
Exactly...or a Squier.....they work...they can be set up to play great...and they get you rolling.
The Baofeng was much clearer in comparison. The other radios transmission sounded dirty with the treble being too high.
I love 'em.
I have 14 baofengs and 2 yayzoo’s. Great radios just wish they had bnc antenna connectors and the speaker pike jack on the top instead of the side.
They should have also put a proper S meter on them and a warning light if the swr is too high
I have 2 UV-5R radios. I plan on buying several more in the near future, to augment camping gear, family vehicles, “bug out” bags, etc., and the extended-life batteries. As you stated about battery life, I haven’t yet run one of my radios less than 5 days (in stand-by) before needing recharge... 4 days if I’m listening to commercial FM radio, and that’s with the “shorty” that was included with the radios. I think they’re a good starter’s and/or emergency kit radio. To be completely honest, the only thing I’d ask they’d update would be to make the radios at least water resistant, if not water proof.
Excellent starter radio as your first entry into the hobby! I still keep one in my truck every day. It taught me a lot about programming, offsets, PL tones, etc. I’ve had great success with the Nagoya antennas, roll-up j-poles when I travel, and I use KB9VBR’s copper J-pole at home as a base station antenna. I can peg repeaters 40 miles away and talk to Australia on IRLP.
One of my favorite hobbies is using the Baofeng along with KB9VBR’s home brew “Tape Measure Yagi” to make satellite contacts!
Not too shabby for a $35 HT in my opinion. I am definitely in the “savior of the hobby” camp.
Keep up the great work Michael! I’ve learned so much from your channel as a new Ham. 73’s!
10 months later, but you've sold me on this. Thanks for listing precisely what you do using this radio, something which I've found to be scarce.
My UV-5R got me into ham radio for under $100. It is perfect for the brand new ham on a budget
I just got my Technician license after a friend gifted me a Baofeng UV-5R. I've come across all sorts of feedback for and against these units and I've recently been using SDR to get a birds eye view of the transmission. I really appreciate your videos and how well you covered this without being dogmatic on the matter. Thumbs up.
I have a UV5R, F8HP, and a Kenwood ht, with various antennas, finding that operator sensitivity and skill are the first assets. 73, K0VY
I found mine on Facebook marketplace for $15. It’s the reason I ended up getting my tech and then going for the general. I’ve had so much fun I’m going for my extra in the fall
Thank you Michael for a great review. I'm currently studying for my Technician license and have 2 of the UV-5R's. I have been able to listen in on the PAPA system in Southern California. I listen to the more seasoned operators as they discuss all topics on Ham radio and this, in itself, has been a great learning experience.
They’re great radios w long distance. I’ve been using these for hiking and during ski trips to keep in touch w family and friends.
I use mine on a repeater 13 miles away for the radio club net twice a week and it works perfectly.
I purchased the BTECH UV-5x3 Tri-Band radios.
Upgraded the antenna to the Nagoya Na-320a Tri-band Antenna.
Studying for my technician license now.
Thanks for the video.
I've been using radios my entire life in some form or another but never a ham because the price etc... Recently with the apocalypse happening I decided to take the plunge when someone told me about these little units. Got one on the way now. Far easier to start with than a complex mega system.
Thanks for the video I am waiting for my Baofeng to arrive in the following days but already subscribed to your channel for tips for a new hobbyist
Last October, I purchased the Baofeng BF-F9V2+ model as it is tri-powered and had great features for a $50 HT. At that time, I was studying for my tech license but before I passed the test, I bought a Yaesu FT-60. I now also own a AnyTone AT-D868UV with DMR. I keep the Baofeng as a emergency "Prepper" radio since it will transmit outside of the ham bands. I like it myself.
A neat replacement of the UV5R line is the UV-82 series. They qualify for Part 90 certification, and the spurious emissions issue had been fixed by a great extent. UV-82s can be found on sale for 30-40$.
The UV-82 (2M/70cm) was my first radio, purchased before I got my license. After listening with it for a while, studied for my test, and got my General. I’m not sure I would have gotten into amateur radio if I had to buy a much more expensive HT first. For that, I think the Baofengs serve a purpose.
I have 3 UV-5R radios. They are great radios considering the price. And like you said, the batteries last forever. Great review! Highly recommend these affordable radios for beginners.
Thank you for a fair comparison and not calling the UV-5R and it’s operator trash. I bought a pair of them as a restart in the hobby and have been attacked by old hams for owning them. I don’t have the spare cash for a Kenwood, I-Com or Yaesu.
I think it's great as a starter radio and as a backup. Everyone should also check out the Baofeng BF-F8HP which is similar but can transmit at up to 8 Watts. They have batteries and other accessories that are interchangeable with the UV-5R so you could get a long life battery or antenna for either and it works great. I would not recommend transmitting at 8 Watts with the HT next to your head, so get an earpiece or external mic. GREAT VIDEO
My first impression was with the UV3R when they hit the market a friend of mine bought one, and my first comment was " Oh it probably has spurs bigger than the fundamental frequency. But the thing that did impress me was the size ! that thing was tiny! and here is the killer!. was the audio quality coming out of that little package. both on Tx and RX ! I could not believe the fidelity etc. a lot of good audio quality (to my old ears anyway) and I was sold. I had assumed it met FCC requirements in order to be sold here in the USA. It is a great package no matter what your need at a price anyone can afford. I think it is a great tool to draw in new hams .
I bought a UV9R 15W waterproof 8,000 mAh battery to add to my preparedness kit. These videos are great for learning. I only need it in case of a disaster and need to call for help.
Thanks. Great video. I entered the hobby with GT-5R (supposed to be cleaner) and have had great results with your tape measure yagi on a 2 meter simplex net here in middle Tennessee.
I've had a Bowfung for a few years and its been very good, once programmed. No, I never learned to spell it right.
I think that the Baofeng radios are a good way to start people out in Amateur radio. They may not be sure it is what they want to get into, and if you start showing them $300 handheld radios, they may just try to stick to FRS or GMRS and never grow amateur radio. I have a couple of the UV-5R;s, and I also have a way to hook two up as repeaters. That way if I find some of the people out in the country that want to communicate, they will have a cheaper way to get involved. Living on the Gulf Coast, it is also good to have my family members armed with some type of device to talk to each other with, and me and another have full up ham shacks for everything else. Don't knock equipment, find a way to get people involved.
I got started about 2 years ago and, shocker, my first transceiver was one of these forsaken radios, in particular a BTECH UV-5X3. I wanted to see what sort of activity there was on 220 and the radio seemed to be a slight upgrade from the more run of the mill UV-5R. I don't regret it but admit that I've done more listening than transmitting with it. I upgraded to Yaesu rigs not long after and have no regrets either way.
The BTech UV-5X3 is a great radio. I bought one just for its ability to do 222 Mhz.
I didn’t get to the 2 minute point of this video by the time I hit the like button. This was a great straight to the point video. I know nothing about ham radio. This was very informative. Thank you
I decided to go for quality for my first radio, Icom IC-V86. Haven't regretted it in the least.
My daughter me and another ham were part of a group of about 30 people that went kaiaking, canoeing and tubing down the upper iowa river, (no cell service) it was nice for us 3 to be able to use our cheap Baofengs to help the group stay in touch when we were scattered over 3 miles of river at times. I never had to worry about them getting lost because they were so cheap. one of them did get wet and honestly it did not even phase it. I would not be using some expensive radio for that type of event.
I tested 2 different Baofeng model radios after bringing asked what their spurious emission levels were. Much to my surprise both met FCC emission limits as measured on my Rohde & Schwarz CMA180 communications test set (this is a brand new instrument still in factory calibration). One was a dual band and the other a tri band radio. Both had a maximum spurious emission of between 65 to 70 db down from fundamental. I honestly thought they would be around 50db down. Receive is another story. Broad as a barn door best describes the receivers but considering what they cost I think it's acceptable.
A great informative and unbiased review on this little HT. I have several different Baofeng HT's and no doubt will get a few more as time passes. Over here in the UK our Foundation licence holders (Tech in the US) have access to all the bands except 60mtrs so most fly off to the HF side of things, but some remain on the VHF/UHF spectrum as our repeater system offers some contacts and rag chewing. As I said earlier, I run several of these little chinese radios, namely x2 UV5R's, 1 GT-3TP and my latest being a Retevis RT87, I do have a Yaesu VX-6 for added fun. These are cheap, reasonably reliable and a very cost effective radio and we give them away free to scouts who pass their Foundation as a starter radio. If I was to be critical of anything, which is contrary to your test, that would be that they can be very quiet on TX. Thanks again Michael.
Some of these have that issue, if you have some tech skills it can be improved. I didn't want to go the soldering route so on mine I just increased the mic hole slightly. Made a big difference
Great video ! I have four Baofengs . They were great starter radios. I don't know if I would have gotten into the hobby if my first radio had been $300-$500.
I actually got those test results wrong. The Yaesu was a lot more “tinny” sounding.
I have an uv5r which has been running 24 x 7 for about 3 years now, it's running an aprs repeater so sees frequent tx/rx traffic. If this is typical Chinese quality then I am ok with it.
Just bought my first (Baofeng) radio. For the money it's a good way to get into ham radio.
Just go back into Ham Radio after a 20 year hiatus and bought an F8HP and it works as good as the higher end Yaesu. Will be using it primarily for direct Air to Air com with my Powered Para Glider. Thanks for review 73 K1YOU...
There was a running joke back in 2014 that anyone with a call sign starting with KG7.... owned a Baofeng UV5R. Its funny because its true. All joking aside, the inexpensive entry point of the UV-5R is what got me into ham radio. I got my ticket in Dec '13 and yes, my call sign starts with KG7. I do believe these radios did much more good than harm bringing in new licensed operators. The local ham club doubled in size in 2014 and brought in funds to fix up the local repeater. At least for my area at the time, these radios breathed in new life to the hobby.
Thanks for the test.
I have 3 uv5r's. Great little radio. I also have a yaesu ft60. My concern was the receive. I've noticed that when near the cordless cable that is in our area. It put out a rd signal that will keep the squelch open on the uv5r. Yaesu is fine. But I use it more away from home anyway.
So maybe you could test the receive for the folks . Thanks again.
I own three or the BTech radios and you are right the battery last really well. But I prefer me FT1XD for its better sound quality on FM and it’s ease of operation.
@Thuff is it worth the extra money for better FM? I am still looking for a technician license beginner's radio. I thought about going with a mobile radio. It could also be used at home as well.
But I may go hand held first. It's still a decision I must make.
Ron B I own three BTech radios and they work well. For the cost you cannot beat them. Now for ease of use and sound I prefer I have my FT1XD.
@@thuff3207 wow I just looked at a btech murs radio I was thinking for my wife and I. Because she don't hold a Ham license. I myself will try a btech ham handheld. I want something on 2 meters and maybe 6 meters as well, other bands are just a plus.
What about SSB? it seems like these companies think fm only is the only way for these upper frequencies. SSB is good for distance.
I tuned on my receiver and there is nothing on the high bands above 2 meters. I would rather have a transceiver that includes 10, 6, 2 Meters I really don't care if I don't get UHF. Back to square one.
Ron B Then look at a FT-818 it does all of these modes and more at the same power.
I believe they are great starter radios, I started out with a WouXun uvd1p, was cheep and got me started into the hobby by scanning then ending up getting my licence. I ended up upgrading to a Yaesu FT2 in the long run but have it as a backup! Thanks for the videos, always informative.
Got a UV-5R attacked to mounted j-pole on my roof. I also have a Nagoya 771 for when I am walking around. I like these little radios, especially after I got a decent shoulder mic.
These are great for Techs, I am into my rig for a total of just over $100 with extended battery/USB charging, programming cable, a pair of 771's (two is one and one is none) and a molle radio pocket that I can wear on my belt. I really want/need to get a second 5R for when this one dies.
Next purchase in radios for me is a 'mobile' 2m/70cm for the shack and a 2m mobile for the car.
BF's are good enough for many things. My brand Y HT cost a lot more, and is more capable, but at it's price, it pretty frequently stays safe back in the shack. Best receiving HT I ever had was brand K, and I wish I had kept it, but a new battery for it cost 3X a complete set of 2 BF's, 4 batteries, 2 improved antennas, speaker mics, etc.
I bought three. Price! Looking forward to being licensed so I can transmit. Will get better stuff as $ allows.
Prior to taking a Technician class at a nearby ham club, I decided to purchase a Baofeng UV-F8HP so that if I wasn't satisfied it would be a cheap throwaway. During the class there was a demonstration of Net, and most of the hams, including Amateur Extras, were using Baofeng radios. I am using the F8HP for the car, along with a battery eliminator and a Nagoya car mount antenna. I've since added two Baofeng UV-5RX3 radios to explore the 1.25 meter band. Had I had to purchase a Yaesu I probably would not have taken the course nor the Technician and General exams. 73. KC3NGQ
Nice work. Thanks for sharing. I'm in the very beginning stage of leaning Ham radios. This was great.
Great video. I’ve been a Ham for about a year and the only radio I own is the UV-5R. It’s easy to use and easy to program if you use chrip.
Just last week, Jim W6LG, had a couple of videos up about the legality of Baofengs for amateur use, he seems to have taken them down as of today. I have a few UV5Rs and once I got past the programming woes, I like them. They're not my primary HTs (I have a couple of FT-60s), but they're good backups, and great for trudging around the bush without a concern for losing or killing one. Cheers! Chris - NI7I
A great, and truthful review. The FCC ruling that these Baofeng radios are illegal was an erroneous statement from the FCC in the first place. Amateur operators can use anything, even Bobbi pins to make a radio as long as they transmit on authorized frequencies, and don't cause harmful interference. The FCC can issue directives to importers about radio equipment they sell to the general public. Keep in mind the FCC has tested and certified you to use a certain portion of the spectrum. As an amateur, that's all you have to obey. If the FCC wants to keep these radios out of the hands of the general public, the solution is simple. Require retailers to check the FCC database for licensure before shipping. There are a lot of lies out there from people saying that they tested the radio and they got all types of 3rd order harmonics that exceeded FCC guidelines. I have never believed any of them. I find that these are operators who can't believe that what they paid $ 400.00 for can be picked up for $19.00 from China.
Gerald Wilson The videos of the tests exist 😉
The FCC doesn't care if people use illegal power without licenses, as long as you don't transmit on emergency frequencies. But that's impossible because every one is encoded. I've been transmitting on amateur radio frequencies for years and no feds ever came to my door or called. The FCC has bigger priorities and it's time consuming/expensive to track "criminals" engaging in friendly conversations on frequencies no one else uses.
I've been getting notifications that you have a new video out, and when I go to check...there aren't any. Not sure what the glitch is, but I figured I'd you might want to know.
I've been doing some live stream tests this week in preparation for my live broadcast event on Friday. The notifications may be due to that. The tests were supposed to be unlisted. But with RUclips, who really know what is happening.
@@KB9VBRAntennas OK, thanks
I agree with you . I have 2 uv5r . I got my tech ticket last Dec. It has been a great low cost radio. If you are on a tight budget . They fit the bill . I only paid $20 each for mine . Did not expect much . They work very well for my needs .
Yes the Baufeng is a great starter radio I wish they had these when I got started as a kid I was craving a handheld radio and even the used ones were way out of my price range back in the day! With these cheaper radios you can Elmer a kid and give them a radio to get started on! I honestly thing there is more to this issue then meets the eye ,I think the big 3 radio manufacturers got with the FCC and through up a stink about these radio and started crying that they are cutting into there profits! Yes these cheap Chinese radio may not be the best but if I were a kid and got one as a new ham that would be fantastic!
Thanks, my amature radio license exam results is about to be released next week, Hope I pass an be on air soon.
did you make it? hope so.
@@dr.hillbilly503 Yes , I got the license. Thanks for asking. I was not able to buy radio since corona virus lockdown started here immediately after I had got my license.
I do fine without a license.
I'll stick with my Kenwoods and Yaesus. They've been good for me. I started with a Yaesu VX-5A (I'm not sure if that is the correct model number). I moved on to the Kenwood triple band (2m, 1.25m, 70cm) which is a great radio. The cost is not all that high, far less than a handheld scanner that can receive most of the multiple modulation methods now being used (Digital P25 Phase 1 and Phase 2, NXDM, etc.). One of those can set you back over $800 depending on if you choose all the options.
I've seen someone testing one of these things and they don't have the correct signal widths, bleeding over onto adjacent frequencies. I can't seem to find the videos. The biggest problem is the offband transmission capability.
I have 5 Baofengs and a Yaesu FT3D, cos they're cool. Planning on getting my license once the in-person exams are on again after The Plague settles down enough. Be nice to actually use them for more than just scanning emergency services. I don't transmit illegally.
8:42... it's not tough at all. The Baofeng sounded deeper and richer, the Yaesu, harsher, all treble. The Baofeng was way more pleasant to listen to.
The exams are only in person?
@@freedomloverusa3030 No, I think they're doing online exams while everyone has The Plague. But it's an onerous effort. You have to (from recollection) have 3 webcams, one up close on your hands, one up close under the desk (to show you don't have a cheat sheet on your lap ?!?), and one overall view. I may have that wrong. But I do remember thinking, sod that for a palaver, I'll wait till I can do a walk in...
I have two UV-5R units now, and intend to use one as a vox-activated FOX in Fox Hunting. I don't really care about how many harmonics it has, or how clean it is, should I? It's cheap and efficient, and can be used to lure in Ham's with yaggi or directional antennae from 3 miles out. How about you do a program or segment on how they are used and can't be used in Fox Hunt?
I like them but I have a real problem programming them. Sure would be helpful for me to see a good video on using CHIRP with Windows 10.
ruclips.net/video/0l_kdktZAkI/видео.html
Wow! I actually prefer the audio from the Baofeng during your test! The Yaesu souns tinny to me.
In fact, if you listen carefully to the audio, on the Yaesu, you can here a hum.
It would interesting to play those audio clips through a graphic analyzer on the computer to view it.
73 & thanks for your vids Micheal.
I hope you're still taking questions/comments....would your comments be basically the same today in 2023 about the Baofeng BF-F8HP? Thank you.
New to this - purchased the UV-5R because of your video - now to see what I can and can't do .
You can’t transmit. It’s an illegal radio.
@@wprunkard , I never intended to transmit until licensed . I wanted something that would allow me to see how other people use them and if I actually need a license or just save my money and listen .
If you live int he city a handheld is fine for a first radio. If you live rural? Plan on 50 watts and decent antenna as high as you can get it! And for rural people don't overlook 2m SSB/CW/Digital, range is far greater than FM, use a decent horizontal antenna and 100 mile range every day is easy! If band conditions are up a bit 350+++ miles can be done. With 160 watts and 2 large beams(2M5WL by M2) I made a 1550 mile contact! SSB! And several moon bounce contacts using CW!
What I dont like about some of these videos is people do not say point blank "I recommend this as your starter above all others" and then say why 3 other near misses were not as good.
As a new Ham I have the Beofeng and honestly, not a fan. I do live in the city so maybe that's the real issue. Thankfully, my brother in law is hooking me up with a donor radio for a home base. He's also looking into after market antennas to see what can be done with my Beofeng. Im really looking forward to getting into the hobby. 73
You hit the nail in the head. Baofeng handhelds have poor receive filtering and their front-end receivers can easily be overwhelmed by the myriad of RF signals found in an urban environment.
I think the UV-5R is a great starter radio. A new HAM can pick one up for very little money and play around on the bands. If I am any indicator, anyone getting into HAM will start buying better equipment before too long anyway.
When are you going to do the best hf radio for technician class first radio?
Amateur radio is not the CB Nation, the majority of our hobby are gentlemen agreements and the honor system. The FCC for the most part has a hand off approach. I have two Baofeng eight watt radios, on the FRS/GMRS frequencies I program it to legal power levels, the amateur radio frequencies are programmed with the correct inputs, I also use them on the public service bands, which I'm authorized to do. It's also important to note that any legal amateur radio can be altered to transmit out of our band assignments, usually with the simple snipping of a resistor.
Sure do wish you were my Elmer !
So once you get the technician license, what channels do you start trying to communicate on? What exact frequencies do you look for?
Most amateurs start on the VHF 2 meter band. 146.520 Mhz is the national simplex frequency so you may find activity there. Otherwise www.repeaterbook.com has a list of amateur radio repeaters in your area to monitor.
I love my Baofeng UV 5 R
The UV-5R was my first radio. The price was the main factor that got me into the hobby. I now have a more expensive H/T and mobiles, but like you, I have a few 5R’s as backups.
Without my first 5R, I wouldn’t be into the amateur radio hobby. KD9NJJ
question, is a bafoeng 15s a amateur radio ?
I would not recommend usage out of ham bands other than as a receiver, there is a lot more to compliance than frequency of operation and power levels. I have 6 or so UV-5Rs, they are handy, quite rugged and with great battery life. They are interesting technology, basically an SDR, spectrally they are not great and they do not perform as well as most conventional dual band handhelds. And yes I have checked one for transmit spectrum. There is something wrong with the market though when I could buy 3 of these for less than the cost of the battey for one of my Yaesus.....
I have a uv-5r for my first radio. Got mine at Walmart online for $20.
These radios are good for a first radio, especially if price is a major factor. They are difficult for me to program manually, but with the right programming software and cable, you are OK.
The problem is they’re illegal. They broadcast outside the frequency. So in the end, what kind of deal is that?
When I saw the likes were on 357, I was tempted to leave it, but I figured someone else wouldn't care, so thumbs up it is!
what are your thoughts on the Baofeng UV9R-ERA?
I love my UV5R!
The Baofeng sounded better, I have a couple BaoFeng 8watt BF-F8HPs, however I have a Yaesu ft-991A for a base station rig I'm setting up. I'm studying for my Technician test at the moment though.
I started with a baofeng, then a TYT mobile rig (that I love) then recently got suckered into a TYT MD UV380. DMR is interesting but, adjusting the code plug is a full time second job. 3 weeks of messing with it and I’m still only listening. I’m still confused by the whole thing.
It has its use i like them it’s a fm radio a flashlight and can use as a scanner in my area
Is there something for around a 100$ that is worth the extra money and better option
My fist one was a beofang. I still have then GT-5 i think
Hi, good honest review. The Yaesu audio was horrible!!
HAM snobs hate them, and I hate HAM snobs.
They work for what they are. Where I live they are not that useful... 30 miles to the nearest repeater... I keep one in the truck for emergency use but for day to day? 50 watt mobile rig in the truck and house. But I don't operate much FM, I prefer 2m weak signal... Yacking with the guys down around Sioux Falls as I type this on 144.200, 125 miles from me. A couple of the guys are 150+ miles away. They are copyable tonight but band conditions suck. When the band is normal they are S9 plus. 2mSSB of course, horizontal antennas... no repeater, simplex
I want a Baofeng UV-5R but cannot afford one. I'm retired and a disabled USMC and Vietnam vet. Money comes hard for me.
So why exactly are the Baofeng radios being banned for sale in the U.S. then if they are a decent radio for beginner amateur radio users?
They are perfect for doing community service events, especially where your using simplex.
I would say if can afford to I'd spend just few more bucks and get something like the new cheaper yaesu's ht or other similar brands. Better filtering and things for not much more
The Yaesu FT4-XR is only $79.95 and got good reviews in a recent issue of QST.
@@KB9VBRAntennas we used to give away uv5r at our hamfest, but some didnt want them. We gave away the yaesu this year
@@KB9VBRAntennas There is some discussion as to whether or not the FT4-XR actually is a Baofeng...
www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?topic=121916.0
qrpblog.com/2018/09/yaesu-ft-4x-review-it-is-after-all-a-baofeng/
The Baofeng's are perfect "throw away" radios where there is a high risk of damage or theft. So they get left where my expensive Yeasu's would NEVER be left unattended.
LordTimelord - another point I missed, thank you! I’m not nearly as careful with my UV’s as I am with my other radios. If I happen to leave it laying on the passenger seat, I’d rather be out $30 and a window, rather than $300-&500 and a window.
I never leave them where they can be stolen in the first place. That's pretty stupid, must say.
@@anthonypalermo8816 I have a couple of remote solar-powered simplex and duplex repeaters set up with these cheap radios for this very reason.
havent charge my baofeng in over a year. still got 3 bars lolol i dont use it much life happened and i havent been able to commit to this hobby
How much $ do you want for it?
Yup, the front end is pretty loose and let in alot of interference. I use them all the time when I worry about dropping, misplacing ect. I keep one in the truck for cross banding. In all honesty, if a fire department, or a business, flagging crew, ect use a uv5r for coms in a legal frequency area for their use, what the hell makes the difference. If a boater used one on marine VHF, big deal. How long have people been using a kilowatt on CB band???? Whats worse??
I am a new to ham lady :) I have a baofang also, before I knew about the controversy. How do I find a ham club? I need help programming my radios, and do not own a computer for the crisper?, I believe its called?, to program the radios... I'm in Oregon ♡♡♡ thank you :)
www.ARRL.org will list clubs in OR
Mine was and I'd strongly suggest to not buy one unless you want to get frustrated and not go further in the hobby. Grab a Yaesu FT2DR and you wont be disappointed
Silkworm I have an Icom ID 51a plus 2 and love it. The Yeasu FT3DR is beautiful though.
Everyone knows TIDRAIDO is the best. Especially the H8 Ham Radio with 10 watts of output and a cool color screen and long lasting battery you should consider it.
Let's see how they compare when other radios are around
Good reviews
Good video. Subbed to channel
You say they have improved spurious emissions? The results published in 2020 Jan QST show them to be worse than before not better.
This video was published before the Jan 2020 QST report. I have a followup here: ruclips.net/video/VZJUY1DRJXU/видео.html