Yeah and then they say if we bring a qb in we probably loose Thorne and Holden… but I say oh well I’m fine loosing them because they aren’t good QBs… go get someone who knows how to play the position.. they don’t have to be cam newtons. They just gotta be alright and manage games and not throw the game away. If we got a cam newton though I’m completely fine with that route as well
Not surprised. They didn't utilize his legs and we couldn't run. Which means zero passing game. He needs the running game to be able to pass. He is not dynamic enough to just make plays in the passing game with our WR core and zero running game.
@@Joe-d3t1t"Good" compared to who on the roster? He is very avg but above his competition at the time(Robby). Which isn't saying much because Robby is not good. PT is fine if we have a running game and run him with tempo(RPO). We didn't run him vs. Cal. But I'm all for Hank and Walker White to compete vs. Thorne in the off season
Hank Brown is the only Auburn player I've seen since Bo Nix that even resembled a QB. Salter runs the read option well and throws a great deep ball. needs some polishing as a passer but he does remind me of Nick Marshall, not as athletic, but similar.
Absolutely Jhead. The honeymoon is over in 2024. Recruiting will require 'proof of concept' if we expect to have recruits sit up and take notice. The quarterbacks in the SEC in 2024 are studs. We cannot stake this next season on Payton Thorne. What if he were injured? Even then, Payton Thorne is not the qb we can stake it all on. Cole is right too. This was tear one abd Freeze got a pass. I would add this staff has done a MASSIVE job improving EVERY position of need. The only position where we have not improved is the qb position. Auburn cannot piss around on qb. The portal is almost closed. We are not going to see the same quality of qb in the spring portal. They've come and gone by then. We got Thorne in the spring portal last year after we missed on several others. Freeze needs a portal qb. Having Hank and Walker to develop is excellent. They are talented. Holden may leave. Hope not, but he's got to be developed.
All I want is a competent offense… That will not happen with PT at QB. I’d rather lose with Hank, Geriner, or Walker. At least they throw the ball down field. WDE 🦅
Our coaches and even our fan base somehow lost sight of that. They got caught up in the narrative that we needed all of these blue chips around the QB for the offense to click.
Look I get capping off nil payments for positions where theres a need. But for positions where theres a desparate need, you just need to cut a check. The no to aj harris over money makes sense. It does not make sense to do with the qb position. We need to see decisive action at that position. Either go all in with walker and hank, giving them all of the reps, and send them to camps and stuff, or cut the check for the transfer qb and call it good.
what if Walker White is just that good? some of these kids are coming in a lot more prepared than in the old days, I think he and Baby Goat might push these guys but I don't think it matters if they don't adjust the passing game a little
If we want to be looked at from recruits as being a potential up and coming program we have to have a legit QB in place and Thorne isn’t that. It’s not all his fault but he isn’t going to elevate AU and that’s what we need. We need a qb that is a playmaker and can elevate what we have. Thorne is fine but he is only as good as his support and surroundings and isn’t gonna elevate your program.
IMO, for what little that might be worth; Floor/Ceiling PT: 6/8 Salter: 7/9 Can't risk going 6-6 again next year. We just cant afford that. CHF can't afford that for support sake, as well as recruiting sake. We've got to have some evidence of progress and building towards a strong 2025 and 2026. We lay an egg again in 2024, and guys might not see the progress, and jump ship. Then we start over again trying to close the talent gap.
No disrespect to Thorne, but he most certainly isn't an SEC QB. Hank Brown came out and showed everyone just how far behind Thorne is. He would be fine as a QB2 or QB3, but if CHF knows anything, Hank will go into Spring as QB1 and let someone to try to beat him out. That along with picking up a SOLID transfer. We can't be in this kind of position EVER AGAIN.
I have Ryan Williams 90% to Auburn as of today I think Auburn should wait and see if Ryan signs with Auburn and pay up to get him in the class then see what we have left that’s what i would do. I would pay Ryan Williams million to two million sign him then see what I have left NIL wise to spend
@comesee1752 thank you that was what I was wondering. However like with me Stephen is my given name but Steve is short. My dad is only steve no Stephen. So I was unsure if hank was for Henry so thank you.
Playoff committee got it wrong. Not only did should fsu been in but ga should have gotten in over bama. Uat didnt deserve to be there. However UM & UW are the two best teams and it the title gm worked out well. I like Um in the gm but Wash is very good and their skill people are just as good or better than Michigans. Penix jr is the best player out of both teams. Should be a great game.
I'm a big Auburn fan I'm going to go ahead and make my prediction now if Hank Brown are Walker White starts in 2024 one of them will win the Heisman I am going with Hank Brown 2024 that young man is good he will start Walker White back up Hank Brown will win the Heisman that's my prediction War Eagle 🦅🦅🦅
There ruining college football for me. I am already sick of this tranfer portal crap, and NIL. These kids should be happy they are getting an education anyone else would love! I do think if a player gets serious injured and cant play in the NFL then the University should have to pay them what they would make in the league!
I will happily tell you what I saw concerning our QBs. Hank Brown QB1 Walker White QB2. The Bowl game showed me. Absolutely need a portal QB
Yeah and then they say if we bring a qb in we probably loose Thorne and Holden… but I say oh well I’m fine loosing them because they aren’t good QBs… go get someone who knows how to play the position.. they don’t have to be cam newtons. They just gotta be alright and manage games and not throw the game away. If we got a cam newton though I’m completely fine with that route as well
It concerns me how stubborn Freeze was all season concerning Thorne. Freeze is Gus2.0, can’t admit mistakes until too late
Just came here to see Cole backtrack on his Thorne love. 😂
Not surprised. They didn't utilize his legs and we couldn't run. Which means zero passing game. He needs the running game to be able to pass. He is not dynamic enough to just make plays in the passing game with our WR core and zero running game.
Thorne isn’t good. You could’ve seen that in the Cal game.
@@Joe-d3t1t"Good" compared to who on the roster? He is very avg but above his competition at the time(Robby). Which isn't saying much because Robby is not good.
PT is fine if we have a running game and run him with tempo(RPO). We didn't run him vs. Cal.
But I'm all for Hank and Walker White to compete vs. Thorne in the off season
Cole is the only one that feels good about Thorne! LOL
The bowl game was nothing different than we’ve seen all year against P5 opponents.
Cole Thorne looks pissed. Lol
Hank Brown is the only Auburn player I've seen since Bo Nix that even resembled a QB. Salter runs the read option well and throws a great deep ball. needs some polishing as a passer but he does remind me of Nick Marshall, not as athletic, but similar.
Absolutely Jhead. The honeymoon is over in 2024. Recruiting will require 'proof of concept' if we expect to have recruits sit up and take notice. The quarterbacks in the SEC in 2024 are studs. We cannot stake this next season on Payton Thorne. What if he were injured? Even then, Payton Thorne is not the qb we can stake it all on. Cole is right too. This was tear one abd Freeze got a pass. I would add this staff has done a MASSIVE job improving EVERY position of need. The only position where we have not improved is the qb position. Auburn cannot piss around on qb. The portal is almost closed. We are not going to see the same quality of qb in the spring portal. They've come and gone by then. We got Thorne in the spring portal last year after we missed on several others. Freeze needs a portal qb. Having Hank and Walker to develop is excellent. They are talented. Holden may leave. Hope not, but he's got to be developed.
Dude we goin 7-5 or 8-4 in 24 we cannot ask true freshman to save us that being said 2025 will be a very good year WDE
All I want is a competent offense… That will not happen with PT at QB. I’d rather lose with Hank, Geriner, or Walker. At least they throw the ball down field. WDE 🦅
Hank brown should be qb1 period
I've seen Washington 3x this year, all 3 games I came away thinking they are very much for real and they have the best player on the field at QB
Our coaches and even our fan base somehow lost sight of that. They got caught up in the narrative that we needed all of these blue chips around the QB for the offense to click.
Go with who wants to be at Auburn. Coaching staff included
Love the show and info! Hopefully can be more involved with yall ( Monday ) in 2024…!
Said all season Thorne is not the guy. Personally I believe Freeze wanted to force Thorne to be the guy, because of the NIL money invested in him.
Great job and great coverage
Look I get capping off nil payments for positions where theres a need. But for positions where theres a desparate need, you just need to cut a check. The no to aj harris over money makes sense. It does not make sense to do with the qb position.
We need to see decisive action at that position. Either go all in with walker and hank, giving them all of the reps, and send them to camps and stuff, or cut the check for the transfer qb and call it good.
what if Walker White is just that good? some of these kids are coming in a lot more prepared than in the old days, I think he and Baby Goat might push these guys but I don't think it matters if they don't adjust the passing game a little
if we have to start a true freshman it’s a bad bad sign. It rarely rarely happens, especially in the sec
They r back hell yeah fellas!! 😎
If we want to be looked at from recruits as being a potential up and coming program we have to have a legit QB in place and Thorne isn’t that. It’s not all his fault but he isn’t going to elevate AU and that’s what we need. We need a qb that is a playmaker and can elevate what we have. Thorne is fine but he is only as good as his support and surroundings and isn’t gonna elevate your program.
Really hope the lack of majors don’t get in the away this time around
IMO, for what little that might be worth;
Floor/Ceiling
PT: 6/8
Salter: 7/9
Can't risk going 6-6 again next year. We just cant afford that. CHF can't afford that for support sake, as well as recruiting sake. We've got to have some evidence of progress and building towards a strong 2025 and 2026. We lay an egg again in 2024, and guys might not see the progress, and jump ship. Then we start over again trying to close the talent gap.
Auburn starts classes 1/10
Holden didn’t complete many but damn that arm is awesome
Finley 2.0
Feels like we gotta get a qb at this point…
No disrespect to Thorne, but he most certainly isn't an SEC QB. Hank Brown came out and showed everyone just how far behind Thorne is. He would be fine as a QB2 or QB3, but if CHF knows anything, Hank will go into Spring as QB1 and let someone to try to beat him out. That along with picking up a SOLID transfer. We can't be in this kind of position EVER AGAIN.
Need a guy who can get past the first read.
We need defensive lineman!!
Hopefully Ryan Williams!
I have Ryan Williams 90% to Auburn as of today I think Auburn should wait and see if Ryan signs with Auburn and pay up to get him in the class then see what we have left that’s what i would do. I would pay Ryan Williams million to two million sign him then see what I have left NIL wise to spend
Hank B. Can at least C receiver group.
what about 9 guys from bama that entered today
I didn't believe the hype all year but Michael Penix Jr is a "DUDE" he was threading the needle and dropping em' in the breadbasket!!!
Penix should have won the heisman.
Who is Henry? Is that Hanks name?
Hank is a nickname for Henry...like Jim for James or Bill for William
@comesee1752 thank you that was what I was wondering. However like with me Stephen is my given name but Steve is short. My dad is only steve no Stephen. So I was unsure if hank was for Henry so thank you.
Ok I’ll say it … Sign salter at QB and Auburn increases its win totals in 24’ EASILY 🦅
please get the liberty qb..asap war eage
WAR EAGLE BIG DOG!!!!
Oh and I said weeks ago Penix is the best player in the country.
Playoff committee got it wrong. Not only did should fsu been in but ga should have gotten in over bama. Uat didnt deserve to be there. However UM & UW are the two best teams and it the title gm worked out well. I like Um in the gm but Wash is very good and their skill people are just as good or better than Michigans. Penix jr is the best player out of both teams. Should be a great game.
Maybe Freeze will learn that the best thing for recruiting is winning. Instead he took a mental vacation after early signing day.
Hank was throwing darts against backups but it was against real bodies. I’m moving on from Payton.
Crazy laugh there JLee … sounded like canned “preserved” laughter.
I knew they couldn't stay away!!! they said the 8th LOL
The call in show, not the recruiting show, is what's scheduled to come back on the 8th.
I'm a big Auburn fan I'm going to go ahead and make my prediction now if Hank Brown are Walker White starts in 2024 one of them will win the Heisman I am going with Hank Brown 2024 that young man is good he will start Walker White back up Hank Brown will win the Heisman that's my prediction War Eagle 🦅🦅🦅
no
Sheesh brother I wish that would happen, trust me, but that’s a hottttt take my friend lol
@@WDWelly wishful thinking
AJ priced himself out, just like Ward and Leonard
Thorne looks like a big joke way to often. Worst QB in the SEC.
There ruining college football for me. I am already sick of this tranfer portal crap, and NIL. These kids should be happy they are getting an education anyone else would love! I do think if a player gets serious injured and cant play in the NFL then the University should have to pay them what they would make in the league!
Auburn needs to hire TRob away from the Turd to replace McGriff.
Big loss with Crime. Can’t believe we lost him
A blind man can C everything he wants to C after a year long of the same. Can’t C Receiving group. Move on because everyone has been evaluated.