A Call To Crisis - The USS Missouri in Desert Storm
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2015
- This video was produced for crew members of the Missouri. It detailed our involvement in Operation Desert Storm, and spans from Nov 13, 1990 to May 13, 1991. It includes port visits to Hawaii, The Philippines, Thailand, and Australia, as well as combat off the coast of Kuwait.
As a former crew member 1987-1990 I can answer a few questions.
When she was being put on the chopping block, we were told it was in relation to a Battleship VS a Carrier; cost to operate, overall effectiveness and so forth. There was a lot going on back then and hardware you see now was in development... rail-guns and so forth, plus all our primary ammo was from WWII through Korea. However, as was proven a couple times during REMPAC 89, planes can be shot down, without planes a Carrier is a floating dock... Nothing takes a direct hit from a Battleship! There was talk about retrofitting the ship in a number of different ways... a few were explored, none viable. And, chemical weapons were the biggest threat to us, and we took that serious, I spent plenty of time in a mask with half-assed mop gear.
In the Gulf we were held back because using us as a primary is considered overkill; my ship, unleashed, given its compliment when we were in the Gulf, could have ended that situation; if collateral damage were not a consideration. We were hard to hit with a low draft and had armor made to take on another ship, we could get into places you wouldn't think. We also had serious reach with various types of missiles, plus anything within 20 miles could be immediately eliminated with the main battery. The Phalanx systems replaced all the AA guns, and they were/are highly effective; like cut a missile in half while tracking multiple targets effective; we had 4 that worked together... and this was the 1980's.
Highly doubtful she will ever return, her name has been given to a new Virginia-class sub. Also, for the last revamp, they had to find old-timers who had built the ship, to assist due to forgotten tech and one of a kind stuff, and all the needed items to make her combat ready are stateside; highly doubtful they toted the shells from their storage facilities, also, much of the asbestos has been removed, worked on that for a few months personally; I worked in Deck - 6th Div, Weapons - turret 2, and Navigation - special evolutions helmsman, Rapid Response Team/Firefighting.
The cross-dressing was part of Shellback initiation; punishment/humiliation and by far mild in comparison to what actually takes place... a profound beating among other things, at least back then. That imaged, was from the 1990/91 deployment. We went through it when I was aboard, coming back from the Gulf in 1987/88, and prior to my boarding in 1986 during the world shakedown cruise. Not sure if they do that anymore, I heard it was heavily regulated after I got out; defiantly no more beating and less life threatening activities...lol
Thanks for posting that my friend. You Squids really do have the best toys to play with !!!
That is a beautiful ship, I can see why you are proud to have served on her.
Thanks for serving America, I served at the tail end of Vietnam in the US Army as a Grunt and fought the Cold War up in Alaska... I lost, it's still cold as hell up there !!!
Brian Fidler thank you for your service
Hey... that's a familiar name, shipmate!
What's up brother!? Was in 6th Div, spent a lot of time on the Bridge and in Turret 2, secondary would have been the Boatswains Locker or Sail Loft.
Your very welcome.
I can't imagine the feeling. Very few ships get the honour of returning from war multiple times especially throughout her long life. Just think about it. You could be standing on deck during your return from Iraq where your father stood on deck during his return from Korea. And your grandfather during his return from ww2.
Taketheshot56 crazy isn't it. Raw American muscle, enginuity, precision, and lasting quality
Iowa class battleships are just like the B-52s , built to last and able to change assignments when needed and were able to be upgraded at will !
They were ahead of their time. That's for sure.
That played a great role in their longevity. I know they are not as suitable nowadays, but most people will have the nostalgia factor with these beauties.
keyword: armor and 16 inch guns = coming home
dont think any of the operations in the middle east can be named as war. your enemies were with sticks hiding in caves.
All y'all Navy types, I was an armor crewman [Army] attached to the 2nd Marine Division. Y'all provided AMAZING supporting fires for us. Thank you for all you did.
An observer described it as "God tossing a salad. Huge chunks of earth and sand, leaping into the sky".
Served on an aircraft carrier during the Gulf War and I remember seeing the Missouri. It was smaller than I expected, but definitely had a swagger to it.
I remember watching CNN during Desert Storm the reporters said the Missouri was shelling positions ten miles away from them and they could feel the ground shake Thats some serious fire power
My father saw the mighty Mo "fire shots in anger" back in WW2. He said it left him awestruck and humbled to see her perform. What a fierce weapon!
That's amazing! Was he a sailor or was he a Marine??
Just bring one more back boys. Aegis radar, 200+ Tomahawks, 50 Harpoons, and those awesome 16in guns. Murica.
BAE still convincing the DOD and Congress for Fund the railgun project
90 ton ship with hundreds of tomahawks, the successor to the Harpoon (that's getting a bit dated), 16 inch railguns with a 180 mile range, laser air defenses, sm3 anti-ballistic missile. Not sure how practical it is vs a few smaller ships, but boy would it make us all smile a bit!
@@p51mustang24 Hate to break it to you, but for Anti shipping the Tomahawk have been axed, currently the only anti shipping missile in the USN inventory is the Harpoon and compared to what is out there, it is like a .22 LR while the competitors are shooting .50 BMG in a fire power contest.
Actually the navy got approval to modify the TLAM to be able to target ships. The missile will take 5 years to become operational and cruisers, destroyers, and subs will be able to launch them and supposedly they will have a 1000nm range
They wanted to put Aegis on the Battleships when Reagan brought them back but they found the radar couldn't take the beating from the big guns when they fired. :(
it makes me sad whenever i remind myself that the Era of Battleships is over.
Russia technically got battleships. They just replaced the main guns with missiles.
@@honkhonk8009 There should technically still be a role for them. I dont see how anything could match the speed power of a giant barrel. Cost issue to have a hybrid type ship I guess.
Unfortunately long range missiles make battleships obsolete.
Pretty sure Russia has a "battleship" but I think it got classed as Battlecruiser now.
@@johndor7793 it’s because congress doesn’t want a big navy. They would rather have lots of small ships.
I can't believe this is on RUclips! I lost this VHS a long time ago... EMFN Timothy Williams, E Div, 89'-92'
I guess we served together, then- 90-92, F Div!
I have a question. What was it like serving on the pride of the US Navy? And how long did you serve on the USS Missouri? And lastly, did you serve on other ships? Sorry to ask so many questions since I'm curious
It was a good ship to be on, as it was so high-visibility. Well known for The WW2 Surrender and several movies, etc filmed aboard. Of course, when we had tours, there were THOUSANDS of people walking around your home. I was in 3 years, 2 of that on the MO, then I got out. Didn't care for the Military, but now I work as a commercial mariner and enjoy it.
My brother, EM2 John Ziesemer, was onboard during the first Gulf War also
This music sounds like old (to me) school video music.
I remember my father who was a Korean War navy veteran taking our family to see the might Mo in Hobart on her return voyage. What an amazing ship!
My father served along side her in the Korean War in a frigate. Seeing this reminds me of him and all his great stories.....I saw the might Mo again in Hawaii in 2010. Truely impressive and fantastic.
Seeing this makes me miss my Dad sooo much ❤️
Your dad must have been so lucky to serve on one of the most powerful battleships ever built
God I wish the U.S.S Missouri was still with the fleet today or at least a battleship. I know, I know we have way better weapons than just big guns. But still it would be nice to have a battleship in the fleet for maybe a bit more protection, or to help for bombarding a beach or for close up encounters of enemies at sea. Idk, it's just that the battleships showed the navy's true might. Their large guns were highly symbolic for the navy...
Also it is cheaper to send shells then a tomahawk missile but shells have major limits
Uganda Knuckles yes good a New Battleship Uss Hawaii
No Montana there has been no battleship commissioned named after the state (though there WAS a design that was authorized for construction but was canceled).
if we attack N Korea we'll need those ships to bombard land targets.
The Iowas?
I got see the Might Mo in Hobart, Tasmania. Unlike US nuclear powered subs and carriers (such as the Carl Vinson which I also toured some years later) the Mo was allowed to dock right in the middle of town. She made a hell of a sight and the crew had a great time visiting. Cheers all, from Oz.
Had the honour of visiting this fantastic warship twice in my lifetime. Once as a child and tourist in Bremerton. Then again as a young adult as a guest of the PR/liason team, post modernization, in the 80's. I am hoping to see her one more time as I am over due for another vist to Pearl Harbour. The finest modern warship of three generations. Long live the Mighty Mo!
Damn the Missouri/Mighty Mo was one handsome ship he was, sad to see him retire...
Carriers do lead the seas now... but we will never forget the King of the seas, *Battleships.*
I think its a she
But ship called as a female...
@@madhie-kun8614 only the bismarck was a he
@@madhie-kun8614 because it carries more than one. Fact.
Fun Fact: The USS Missouri can never be retired, president Truman put a law into place saying that it can never be retired and if a conflict / War breaks out they have to update it with newer equipment to be fully operational, but until then she just sits as a reserve in the US NAVY until she’s needed again.
12:20 Missouri and Wisconsin site by site... What a beautiful look!
Just guys being dudes!
That’s so awesome to see the old ship pulling out of dock one last time to go to war for the US, it’s heartwarming. It’s like that boxer going out for one more match. He isn’t what he once was but he’s still a force to be reckoned with.
That is one badass ship!
TheLondonForever00 i agree! And its so cool that it was used during the Kuwait war. It was made in ww2 yet it still was used in a 21st century war
that was in George W bush administration
Rocket Man ohh okay. i mix it up often between 20~21 century
I'm proud to have stood on her deck!
Yes it is that's a gruesome Monster
Proud to be from the great state of Missouri! Mighty Mo, you've made our state and our country proud, and all the men and women who served!!!
I lost it when they stopped in Pattaya Thailand. Exactly what the sailors did is what my marines and i experienced for the first time 4 months ago plus a little more ;). Would go back in a heart beat.
I went aboard the Missouri recently at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii and it was beautiful and one of the most impressive things I have ever seen.
In a couple of weeks ill be standing on the deck of the mighty Mo. flying from sydney, my dream, cant wait.
music used( I like silly old documentary music :P ):
01:30 - 04:19: Network Music Ensemble - Homecoming //playlist: Pop Affair
04:20 - 07:23: Network Music Ensemble - Energy //playlist: Corporate Class
07:33 - 09:05: Energy (again)
09:13 - 10:00: Network Music Ensemble - High Combustion //playlist: Power & Intrigue
11:16 - 13:18: High Combustion (again)
14:41 - 17:45: Network Music Ensemble - Barren Journey //playlist: Power & Intrigue
17:50 - 19:22: Barren Journey (again)(spliced)
19:43 - 20:10: (...I can't identify it yet.)
20:27 - 23:33: Network Music Ensemble - Toll Free //playlist: TV Times (looped)(end splice)
23:33 - 24:27: Network Music Ensemble - Rollercoaster //playlist: After School Rock
25:07 - 27:05: Rollercoaster (again)
27:07 - 28:38: Network Music Ensemble - Night Hawk //playlist: Pushin' It!
End Credits Music: (...I can't identify it yet.)
(reposting this)...Yeaaaah, permanently switching emails apparently deletes all of the previous account's comments. All 8 years worth of them
This is pure 90’s nostalgia
Brian thank you for your service. The first time I saw the Missouri she was in the mothball fleet in Bremerton WA. When the New Jersey returned from Vietnam she tied up next to us. When I was activated for Desert Storm with MIUW I got go aboard the Missouri in Bahrain. It was great to see her alive and well. I was looking for a mug, but ended up with a ball cap. She was on her way home. The Navy has made many mistakes. Taking the battle wagons out of service was one of the biggest. My step grandfather severed on the Texas during WWI.
Holy crap I'd love to hear the stories. The Texas is my states ship and I love it
My first ship crush, the Missouri! I was just old enough to see and understand the news of this gallant lady in action during Desert Storm and then got a chance to stand on her deck after her decommissioning when she was partially opened for tours in Bremerton, Washington in the mid-90's.
The USS Missouri and the other Iowa class "Battleships" were the grandest and most fearful ships the U. S. Navy had. The Iowa and Missouri both were recommissioned during the Iraq war when President G. W. Bush sent them there with some new surprises for the enemy.
Actually, Ronald Reagan had them recommissioned as part of his 600 ship Navy. That's why they were available when the Gulf War started instead of sitting in mothballs.
I believe that they were also the longest and fasted battleship ever built. She was also the 2nd most powerful, only being beat out by the Yamato herself
wisconsin not iowa
This brings back a lot of memories, R Div 89-92
I am 14 and I have been in to battleships since 12 and the USS Iowa class BB-63 was my favorite and I just wish I could be there when she fires or something. I am jong but fascinated by battleships. The Iowa class is without a doubt the best battleships ever.
Oh yeah and thanks for all the men and women who served on her. You were lucky to have worked her.
Thank you for your kind words, Arnold.
i miss the 90s, i was a kid but damn look how colorful and happy people were :)
Last time I saw this video was in December 1991. Thank you very much for posting this bit of history. FYI I enlisted July 20 1992 and retired July 31 2012.
I didn't serve in the Navy, but the Battleship was my most favorite ships of all. Just the sheer might of this vessel is truly awesome. I'm glad she stands guard over the USS Arizona.
She always stands guard at her brothers and sisters memorials.
She respects them, and they respect her.
Wisconsin was in Desert Storm also she was in my battlegroup
what a majestic piece of engineering
Just in case you’re young or not an American:
This is what a can of whoop ass actually looks like
Britain could have had two, but our socialist governments Conservatives included,a disgrace.
Spacelyz Rockit
All completely irrelevant.
What battleship used it’s guns again ships after WWII? Google that. You’re not going to find any. Thus the 45 degree advantage is useless. Ships are still vulnerable to shore based strikes/fire (heck.. US aircraft carriers are now outranged by A2AD weapons like the DF21).
Did the Missouri hit the destroyer? How many times did the British straddle targets you didn’t mention because they weren’t hits? Again... absolutely irrelevant in the post war use of battleships.
Bartonovich52 Lol, your also missing the point, he is was being patriotic and saying the Missouri was better than the Vanguard and other British ships. Of course it would be a no brainer modern ships to win a battle, a sub preferably...
And why would a ship with ammunition unbelievable expensive fire for no reason at this present day for no good reason?
Another thing is factually and personally I think that the Missouri would win a duel with a British battleship NOT including crew ability, but technology wise. You can’t argue or get angry with that, it’s too simple.
Unfortunately, The Yamato was better
@@thedeitek8009 Yea, better a sinking and scattering across the ocean floor.
thank you to all the service men and women who served aboard the U.S.S MISSOURI DB 63
@@tristanhurley9071 battleship is bb 63 not db
I was on this ship I was boiler tech. No women was allowed to go out to sea at that time
3:30 Mighty Mo pays her respects to her fallen brothers and sisters..
Can you imagine had they build the Montana? Had they keep the Alaskas, it would have been a sight to see the two battlecruisers sailing with one of the Iowas sailing in between.
“Sir the Navy reports that additional fire support is necessary to ensure complete battlefield superiority.”
“What did they have in mind?”
“Well...”
Just found this one. My Grand dad was on board for the surrender of Japan. That thing's a monster.
Iowa Mar-Det Marine. .... This brings back memories. Great video.
I dont know why but every time the USS Missouri makes me start playing the scene from battleship in my head where the Missouri is kicking some alien ass!! lol. You've been THUNDERSTRUCK!!
I am going to Pearl Harbour in one week.. can't WAIT to see the Mo!
I wish I joined the Navy like I wanted to instead of listening to my mother and going to college which was bullshit would’ve loved to have had the privilege of serving on such a historic and wonderful ship
@Bert Clayton He's probably a 1980s boy like I am. Out of HS I could have served on that ship, maybe of course. Serving on a battleship had to be a very hard ticket to get. I bet everyone wanted to do that. We're well past 35.
It’s no easy task to be in the Navy, your mother was right of you going to college, plus, you can see it at Pearl Harbor
My word look at those beautiful beasts! It really is cool that they got called back one more time in the modern times to roam the seas again.
I served on her 1990- 1992. Desert shield/storm. I miss her. Hope to see her again at Pearl Harbor.
Bro!
I was there….Miss those days.
That's so cool. Were you on the ship or just by it?
The cook on this ship was a bad ass former navy seal who can take down a whole terrorist cell with the help of only a birthday cake stripper and a sat com too😂 nuff said
Don't forget the time when he's on a trip with his niece to attend a family funeral when a hacker and mercs hijack the train.
Nobody beats him in the kitchen!
Smells like a lard omelet!
I served on CV-62 US INDEPENDENCE. My home port was Yokosuka, Japan. Love these video's because I start having vivid flashbacks! To the point to wear I can almost smell the jet fuel and even the smells of the galley and our berthing areas! How it felt to go to GQ and wearing our OBA's for 22 hours in the gulf! So many memories I could type for hours!
I was stationed on the Reuben James in Pearl Harbor 2007-2010. Every day, at least when in port, I would look out across the harbor at the Missouri and the memorial atop the Arizona. I even did a month of security training on Ford Island. I was in Pearl for five years, and eventually moved home to Annapolis. And wouldn’t you know - the whole time I was there, I never did make it over to tour the Missouri or go to the Arizona Memorial. One of the very few things in my life that I consciously regret.
I’ll have to make it back out there one day.
Missouri was anchored at Bremerton Washington for years and years . I don’t think we appreciated that !
Yamato: Am I a fucking joke to you!?
Missouri: yes. You're at bottom of the ocean. And I'm not.
Yamato:Joke’s on you, because I’ll be flying in space in the year 2199
@@metaknight115 Missouri: jokes on you, I’ll be shooting down aliens by then.
@@Johndoe-jd Yamato:But can you destroy alien ships from space?
I served aboard USS England first on station arriving in Gulf on August 2nd 1990, remember when the calvary showed up and we were so damn thankful.
Just the noise and the sheer forces on display when those guns fire.....wow.
WOW I had no idea it was all over the TV like this. I was on her, in CIC.
I know! Folks that know me send me stuff periodically... didn't realize how much information in video and print there was on us.
proud to be an AMERICAN
Hear hear!
I visited this ship yesterday and let me tell you, She still looks like nothing to mess with even docked! 💪🏼 🇺🇸
IT IS A SO BEAUTIFUL & POWERFUL SHIP
Well that was an interesting video, and what a ship she is. Thanks for sharing
The Missouri next to the Arizona, it's nearly unreal
Love to see these ships in action. But I'm glad they are being preserved for future generations. Unlike other great ships that lye at bottom of the ocean we can still visit each of Iowas and I think they are the most Beautiful and awe inspiring ships ever built ❤
LMAO at the guy in the Dentist chair @5:18 and for all you sailors who serve on board these great ships, Thank You for keeping our shores and our allies shores safe from tyranny & evil!
I had 3 wisdom teeth pulled while underway onboard the New Jersey. The Missouri was my second ship.
wish battleship could still be used they have so much potential if they are modernized
There's A group on G+ called "Bring The Battleship Back!" That aims to bring them back.
PVEntertainment #bringbackthebattleships
SevelRomanov hahaha we did the zumwalt class destroyers and they are pieces of shit.
AquaticBoardwalkEngineer How about you put missiles onto a battleship? I mean no attack, just a counter-argument to your reply which I just now saw.
with old ammo....they could reach at least 60 today....probably more....and one battleship can have missles as well as cannons....
Thank you for this contribution to US History.
Firing cannons define what a battleship is all about. Even in the time of missiles, cannons still creates a strong inexplicable feeling.
Dang. Imagine how crazy that must feel to fight on a ship your grandpa probably served on.
Really nice ship. She kicks ass in the movie Battleship.
Iowa-class battleships are bad ass💪💪
Yeah iowa
@@awacslongcaster7394 lol!!!
@@normanalvarez5751 ha ha get it Iowa The battleship? I love it
Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, New Jersey
SUPER BADASS SHIPS!
Since then, the Missouri has started branching out into films!
I had the honor of being a crew member of the USS Iowa BB-61 and the USS Wisconsin BB-64 . And I remember well firing with the mighty Mo in the gulf
The era of the battleship how I will miss thee. Endless respect for the men and women that crewed battleships from navies all over the world throughout the last century.
so 0 except maybe the 80s
It would be nice to see one of the Iowa-class battleships back in service, that being said it's almost impossible very expensive to run Manpower intensive, but it would be oh so nice to see those big guns fire away one more time
Can they shoot modern artillery powder? Imagine an Excalibur munition for the 16" guns. There's a proposed design upgrade for the Iowas that a battle carrier, a battleship-carrier hybrid carrying STOVL aircrafts like Harriers by removing the aft turret and turn it into a flight deck complete with elevators.
Thanks for postng this GREAT video!
Thank you so very much for this video post..
My Nephew CPO Tommy Adams Was on The Mighty Mo In The 1st Gulf War , He Kept The Radio's Working !! The Mighty Mo Fired the First Shots in That War
Everybody fired " the first shots".....I was there, everyone who was there thinks they fired the first shots...
My grandpa kept the radios working during WWII on the Mo
james adams I’ve seen the ships bell in the Missouri state Capitol it’s a beauty
damn... so mighty the camera distorts every time they fire her big guns
That's 90s camera technology for ya
For GPZ. Yes he did say 50 caliber gun. The 16 inch naval gun is designated as 50 caliber.
Length of the gun
Thank you for your service
American will & power is a force to recon with
I have this ship as a Lego model and boy it looks exactly the same
Great video, thanks for sharing!
THE MIGHTY 'MO'! May you serve again... My heart goes out to the PERSONAL who serve on her and the ENGINEERS who designed her.. Remember...WE ARE SECOND TO NONE! GO NAVY!!!
It's a shame that this Great Ship is not flying the Flag around the world
YOU MOTHER
War changes.
Big Mo..
Like in Game "Battle Of Warship"
I like this..
I'm glad that people can still go and see it
Brings back memories. My grandfather served on the Missouri in WWII. I’m glad I was able to go onboard and see it in Pearl Harbor, September, 1999.
Was that Wisconsin and missouri together at 12:23
Yes. Missouri and Wisconsin were the last battleships to see action in Gulf War
Can you imagine being an enemy and seeing this thing off your shoreline? God, I would run away crapping.
This ship was stationed where I grew up in Bremerton WA for all of my childhood, through the '70s and '80s... You could take tours of the ship every day if you liked ...
i visited the missouri in hawaii. she was a sight to behold to be sure.
GMGSN Finally put it on you tube, cool! I was there and I'm in the video at 4:04 handling food boxes, 10:30 in a pink tank top playing hackey sack, 20:09 in a green jacket, and maybe some more, not sure. The captain was more laid back in the war in the gulf than he was in his war on dirt. lmao Like when he said "listen up gents, we're gonna shoot off some tomahawk missiles. So any of you camera buffs might wanna step out on the main deck and get some pictures now would be a good time"
when i saw "pink tank top" i thought this was a homophobic rant by some ol salt.....but it isn't :).... thanks 4 ur post ... the navy is manned by real people just like u n me. and i would been on the deck w/ camera 4 sure :)
I.was a crew member doing these things and time
The Mighty Mo I remember was a famous part of Desert Storm. Lots of tv shows about her service during the war. Under Siege came out a few years later too. The 90s was a perfect end of her glorious history.
She's tied up along the waters shared with fallen Sailors of Pearl Harbor, especially fellow battleship, USS Arizona. 🇺🇸
Thank you for sharing
As a carrier sailor im biased but I think some forget the history of pearl harbor. the Shell back ceremony has change a lot for what we can and cant do
Mighty Mo.!!!!!! Awesome firepower!! She now sets in Pearl .and unfair ending
Im down, I live on the coast, I'll jack a tug boat and we'll go pull her away from pearl.
I am for modern battleships but the Mighty No is now over 70 years old. I think having it docked at Pearl across the harbor from the Arizona is appropriate as they are America's bookends to the war.
Vern Simon not really. She has an honorable job now as she stands guard over the USS Arizona. Couldn't be more fitting.
And I'm not sure if this is true or not but I've heard that the Mo can be brought back into active service within 6 months.
The mo has a job currently. Leave her be.
rocketdude1979 she was docked there to stand guard over the USS Arizona. Perfect job for her until she's needed again.
Prayers for all country in God we trust to us all people.
So copl to see some VETS talking on here. Thank you for your service!
"It is our understanding that the battleships Wisconsin and Missouri, stationed in the gulf, blew the _____ out of whatever it is they were firing at!"
If only Battleships were modernised. They would be just an good as Destroyers.
Even better in my opinion!
Check out the 16" Scram jet shells designed for the Iowa guns during the H.A.R.P. project of the 1960's ; )............The Iowa's also carried nuclear tipped shells as well.
Cost a lot to run them and they can be taken out by missiles from further away than cannons.
That problem is solved with flares, jamming tech, and those anti missile rotary cannons. What do they call them CIWS or something?
Daft Moonz Then you have not heard of the AM rotary cannon that sits in place of some of the quad 40mm AA guns. plus they can be reactivated for service if needed. They are that good still. of course some things will have to be upgraded
I was on HMS Gloucester during Op Granby, i got to see the Missouri's opening salvo''s, it truly was one of the most awe inspiring things i have ever seen!
I was on the u.s.s. Jarrett ffg33. You all scored the first missile to missile hit in combat history. Thanks.
I believe the "Mighty Mo" will be back!! Doc Mike USN