The Jewish War: Corrections and Fun Facts

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @HesderOleh
    @HesderOleh 4 года назад +73

    One important correction: Not all new recruits are sworn in at Masada. I know, because I served in the IDF and know many people who did and I attended a few swearing in ceremonies. Some recruits are, and I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out which ones. But it seems to be that it is only used once in a while for some units. Units that I have found being sworn in there are caracal, nahal and possibly tanks, but only rarely, or perhaps even not at all anymore (well, none lately because of covid-19, but even before that).
    While researching this, I did find something interesting. A MK in the knesset was on record in a knesset meeting asking that the minister of defense ensure that despite the erosion of the myth of Masada's popularity that he ensures that military ceremonies will still happen there.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 года назад +29

      That last part is fascinating.

    • @Vanalovan
      @Vanalovan 3 года назад +4

      Nahal’s masa kumta ends at Masada but they’re swearing in ceremony (which is about 4 months earlier) is at the Kotel. There’s usually a short speech and ceremony at the ceremony close to sunrise (whenever the recruits arrive) but the real ceremony to receive your beret is at the Nahal memorial between Netanya and Haifa. That said, the Nachal training bases are right next to Tel Arad, which honestly might explain the traces of weed found at the site (one of Nahal’s marches also ends at Tel Arad, they’re really big on symbolism)

    • @jacey320
      @jacey320 3 года назад +1

      Tanks does it at Latrun until last year they had some at Shizafon.

    • @HesderOleh
      @HesderOleh 3 года назад +1

      @@Vanalovan Is it really always the same for nahal, because I could have sworn I went to friends tekasim in differnt places for nahal?

    • @Vanalovan
      @Vanalovan 3 года назад +1

      @@HesderOleh it may have changed, i went through it in 2018 and looking at the unit’s IG since then it looks like it’s stayed consistent since then. Beforehand I’m not 100%

  • @rezajafari6395
    @rezajafari6395 3 года назад +44

    I mean, 1 million in 3 square kilometers? That's Kowloon Walled City level density

  • @jonyprepperisrael60
    @jonyprepperisrael60 4 года назад +49

    now I get why it was called the high temple

    • @d.m.collins1501
      @d.m.collins1501 2 года назад +7

      Everything since then has really gone to pot.

    • @d.m.collins1501
      @d.m.collins1501 2 года назад +6

      (luckily, now we have archeology to weed out the truth.)

  • @ehudshapira2745
    @ehudshapira2745 2 года назад +17

    I see the call "Never again shall Masada fall" not as lionising the suicide of the Sicarii, but as vowing to work to ensure that nothing like that tragedy will ever occur again. Working to ensure that we would never again have to choose between slavery and death, and that our national autonomy will never again be shattered. The phrase doesn't praise the suicide, it actively calls to never let it happen again.
    The phrase actually comes from the 1927 Hebrew epic poem "Masada" by Yitzhak Lamdan, who lost family in the pogroms in eastern Europe and came to Israel. Note that the poem is actually named "Masada" (מסדה), "cornerstone", as opposed to the proper Hebrew "Metzada" (מצדה), fortress. Your point about the Jewish focus on continuity is perfectly in line with the intention of the poet. The phrase comes from a division of the poem called "שרשרת המחולות", "The Chain of Dance", which is all about the continuous chain starting with our forefathers and of which we are the latest link, and which must carry on into the future. The "Masada" of the poem is symbolically both the entirety of the "new" project of Israel, a cornerstone for our future freedom and safety in our national home, as well as a last stand for the persecuted Jewish people and nation, as Metzada was historically (or at least in the common perception).
    "Never again shall Metzada fall" is a "never again" slogan. In fact, it might actually be the origin of the famous phrase "never again" in relation to the holocaust. Was the supposed mass suicide praised and lionised by some in Israel? It certainly was. But more than anything, I think that Metzada is a symbol of the last corner of the Jewish revolt and self-sovereignty, and of the terrible tragedy that occurred there (the mass suicide, a grave violation of Jewish law and values) which marked its ending.
    Thank you for this series, by the way! I've been really enjoying it.

  • @TroglodyteDiner
    @TroglodyteDiner 2 года назад +21

    Up until the adoption of Hindu-Arabic base 10 numbers, counting was much more prone to great error, especially large numbers.

    • @gabrielgarcia7554
      @gabrielgarcia7554 Год назад +3

      That honestly explains so much of the errors in Thucydides and Herodotus with regards to army sizes.

  • @phillipben-shmuel8811
    @phillipben-shmuel8811 5 месяцев назад +3

    I mean, you can definitely visit battlefields from the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests as well and see relevant archeological remains. Some prominent examples would be Tel Azeqa, Tel Lachish, and the broad wall in Jerusalem. So it’s not really accurate that these are the first scenes of battle mentioned in your channel which you can actually visit.
    But I’m just being persnickety. Your channel is awesome and you deserve all the פרגון in the world.

  • @YaaqovShenkin
    @YaaqovShenkin 4 года назад +20

    I think on the Religious-Cultural problem in response to the Messianic question, it's very true. You have Jewish beliefs in Gd and Jewish cultural rituals; the only thing really tying them together is the fact that the cultural rituals are to do with the land and Gd supposedly promised that land to the Jews. I've always seem Jewish belief in Gd as very individualistic, so to preserve the culture and the rituals a state really seems natural. There's a real problem in the western world with these Christian atheists who have lines of thought of "I appreciate Christmas, but Pesach or Ramadan are backwards." I think it's important the religion survives, people having a connection to Gd is always great, trying to understand your place in the universe but we also need Jewish atheists who'll enjoy Sukkot because they want to preserve the culture, and the same for religious Jews: to seperate their belief in Gd and their practicing of Jewish culture

  • @lacintag5482
    @lacintag5482 3 года назад +6

    5:00 Octavianus isn't Octavian's agnomen. Or at least he didn't take that name for himself, rather his enemies gave him that name. His agnomen was Augustus.

  • @anthonykaye3292
    @anthonykaye3292 4 года назад +10

    13:40 "he was a Sadducee..."
    Really, that would have been news to Josephus...he was a Pharisee (Life 11 - 12)

    • @VSP4591
      @VSP4591 3 года назад +3

      Yes, he was a very educated, clever person. His books written by him are the main source of historical information of that time.

  • @TroglodyteDiner
    @TroglodyteDiner 2 года назад +15

    Caesar was always outnumbered, and Napoleon has a much better record when he was outnumbered. Big armies are unwieldy and when smaller ones are led by a strategic genius the extra manpower is unnecessary. Napoleon and Caesar are generally acknowledged to be the two greatest generals in world history.

  • @tavenstrickert9658
    @tavenstrickert9658 2 года назад +1

    So I am a Jew non-practicing non-religious but there are certain things I do like for instance I try to wear a head covering on the high holy days and at least try to keep to at least 50% kosher. Recently my boss well my boss is boss did not like that I was wearing a hat at work and didn't accept that it was for religious purposes so I had to wear my yamaka so he can't tell me no. So I wore my Yamaha throughout Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur and I started really reflecting on my Judaism on my people and it's funny in that time I rediscovered your videos which I had watched only one of sometime ago which was the 13 colonies video. For the last 5 days I have regularly been consuming chronologically your history of our people and I feel like I have learned so much and I'm not even halfway through I'm on this video in particular and I feel like I know so much more about where we came from and our stories and our traditions and people because of you. It's astounding that you only had 1,000 followers at this point because I feel like you've kept a really consistent style in your videography and intellectual presentation which has maintained equality consistent with some of the great RUclips channels. I am very happy to see your membership growing into the high 30s and I hope to see it grow far more than that. I feel like my boss challenging me at work and watching your videos is really reignited and interest in my culture that had been diminished by my own family trying to turn away from it. My grandpa asked me to not wear a yamaka over a decade ago in public he once said that I don't look like a Jew so why invite that kind of attention? He was the one that suggested if I insist upon wearing a head covering just wear a different hat because he didn't want me to put that Target on my back the way he had to live through most of his life. My family converted to Christianity when I was only 8 years old and almost no one celebrates or remembers our traditions I've been trying to keep it alive as best I can and even I have been letting it slip being as non-religious as I am I only do it for the cultural remembrance. I feel like because of you and this recent experience I want to go to my local temple and just engage with some of my people learn more about who We are in a way that was denied me by my family and their decisions and while I have no interest in metaphysical belief I do have a fascination with our Rich tradition of ethics and law and I found so much inspiration in the words of elder Hillel who I thoroughly researched after your video on him and found so much connection with where I am spiritually focusing more on what I can do for my fellow man and not strict adherence to some doctrine. You know my grandpa always told me and it's so funny because he was the one who pushed us from Judaism the most but he always told me to never get a tattoo because of that taboo of course we're not supposed to Mark our bodies and one tattoo I've always wanted that I felt was still respectful of Judaism at least from my understanding of a certain principle would be a tattoo from my first job in the nonprofit sector for Amnesty international when I was working on a campaign for refugees and the current crisis going on around the world. I remember I got the inspiration for the tattoo after talking to another Jewish man who was observing the Sabbath and insisted he could not exchange money at the door for which I was trying to convince them as I was a charity collector trying to sign people up to be members. I remembered a rule and maybe I am not spelling it correctly my Hebrew is almost non-existent anymore but it goes something like pikuach nefesh, and to my understanding it's the principle that when in the service of saving a life the actions needed to give that aid supersede all Jewish law and tradition because to save a Life is the most important thing a person can do. I know donating money isn't saving a life in that moment but every little thing we collected added up to getting children out of War zones to providing immigration lawyers to asylum seekers to paying for doctors and human rights observers and those things do save lives and so we discussed that principle at the door and that man agreed that I had made a good point and ended up giving $100 a month. I wanted to get a tattoo of the symbol of Amnesty international a candle wreath in barbed wire, and under the symbol in Hebrew I want to put those words pikuach nefesh. I am a humanist through and through and I am also a Jew and I really want to try to emulate the aspects of our culture that are not rigid dogmatic and based in faith but rather the aspects based and respect and love for our fellow man and the simplicity of kindness and peace. Anyways I think maybe I've gone on too much but just wanted to say you found a huge fan in me and I really appreciate everything you're doing I'm looking forward to continuing to watch this entire playlist chronologically until I make it to your current releases. Have a wonderful day

  • @MethaneHorizon
    @MethaneHorizon 2 года назад +3

    Mild point of interest, there was a defeat much worse and more recent than teutoberg as well, during the preceeding Parthian war. Battle of Rhandeia led to a Parthian demand of surrender within the capitoline hill.

  • @MexicanDragon2000
    @MexicanDragon2000 Год назад +1

    01:11 So that's why Snoop Dogg played Moses in Epic Rap Battles of History...
    Jokes aside, I'm loving this series ❤️

  • @CalumCarlyle
    @CalumCarlyle 2 года назад +2

    Xannabis is the "aromatic herb" mentioned in Exodus, no?

  • @LDProductionsClass
    @LDProductionsClass Год назад

    I recently stumbled on your work and am really enjoying it. I've always seen Jospehus portrayed as a coward and a traitor so this was a very interesting more positive (or at least neutral) portrayal which I think is more fair.

  • @ElGringoCastellano
    @ElGringoCastellano 2 года назад +1

    You were hinting at garum at the end, right?

  • @forthrightgambitia1032
    @forthrightgambitia1032 Год назад +1

    It's worth adding almost all ancient authors from almost all civilizations exaggerated troop numbers in their reports.

  • @Mark_Williams300
    @Mark_Williams300 2 года назад

    That's an amazingly well preserved Roman ballista/catapult 😃

  • @borisyuabov7292
    @borisyuabov7292 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for your presentation.
    I would have to disagree that Josephus was a Tzeduki. His explanation of Jewish law is very Pharisaic.

  • @Mark_Williams300
    @Mark_Williams300 2 года назад +2

    More like "High in the Cannabis Places" Amirite?😃

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 4 года назад +9

    Just a question, when drawing charterers what do you base them off?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 года назад +21

      My first choice is contemporary images, specifically sculpture. For the Romans that's easy, but for this unit Josephus is the only Jew who has one. For the rest I use historical figures, actors, and friends and modify their clothes.

    • @firburren
      @firburren 4 года назад +6

      @@SamAronow Is Simon bar Giora played by Jason Mantzoukas or is that just coincidental similarity? ;)

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 года назад +17

      Yes he is.

    • @dayalasingh5853
      @dayalasingh5853 2 года назад +1

      @@SamAronow who was John Hyrcanus based off? He looks like Oscar Isaac.

  • @tesilab994
    @tesilab994 10 месяцев назад

    At 13:00 into the video you show an outline of Jerusalem in the year 66CE. Yet the outline you use follows the Turkish walls built arount Jerusalem in the 1500s. In the Turkish walls, the Temple compount is the easternmost part of the city. But in ancient Jerusalem the Temple was actually in the NORTH of the city.

  • @borisyuabov7292
    @borisyuabov7292 3 года назад +1

    In your brake down of political parties in herodian times, you don't mention Boetussians. Any particular reason?

  • @TheLoyalOfficer
    @TheLoyalOfficer 3 года назад +3

    Cannabis at the High Place? Of course.

  • @VSP4591
    @VSP4591 3 года назад +4

    Another important correction: the war started when the Grand Priest at the Temple refused to pronounce the name of the Roman Emperor at daily prayer and the big eagle on the entrance of the Temple was destroyed. At least you should have to mention the opinion of Josephus that clearly say the reason for the war was religious. This religious reason explains why no surrender (no peace) was possible from the part of the Jews. Josephus described the starvation of the population was so intense so cannibalisms was recorded within the population. Nothing deterred the Zealots and Sicary to surrender and free the population of Jerusalem. If the reason would have been economic or similar a solution would have been possible. If you deal with an extreme religious person there is no common ground. That person is like a grenade, will explode any time. No deal is possible, only death and destruction.

  • @NadavJulius
    @NadavJulius Год назад

    2:34 dose it though? Because if you look for example at a Sefer Torah it is multiple hides that have to be stitched together to get a long enough scroll. Why would we assume that all of the hides would be from the same species or animal?

  • @whitelady1063
    @whitelady1063 4 года назад +2

    ראשוןןןן
    יו זה ממש מוריד את איכות התגובות, עוד לא ראיתי את הסרטון אבל זה ערוץ מדהים

  • @djdubbzy
    @djdubbzy 3 года назад +3

    A cohen was not necessarily a noble.

  • @alexisdespland4939
    @alexisdespland4939 2 года назад +1

    can you do a video on how judeaism spread within the roan empire.

  • @maxi4182
    @maxi4182 4 года назад +2

    can you bring proof that josephus was a tziduki

  • @frosibald81
    @frosibald81 2 года назад

    It’s specifically the recruits of Israel’s armoured corps who swear their oath of allegiance ”Masada shall not fall again!".

  • @leonkrav
    @leonkrav 2 месяца назад

    Not "Masada shall not fall again", but rather "Gamla shall not fall again" for obvious reasons. And the proverb is not in official use of IDF.

  • @oravid2754
    @oravid2754 3 года назад

    Not all Israeli soldiers are swearn on messada, and among those who do dont say that messada will never fall

  • @mntnwzrd66
    @mntnwzrd66 2 года назад +1

    My opinion, Judas was a Myth, but Josephus was real. To me he is just the epitome of the turn-coat betrayer. I think he was a big help to the Romans in suppressing the Jews, and in hoodwinking Christians. I think he helped them write the Gospels.

  • @PureMaddnessOne
    @PureMaddnessOne 3 года назад +2

    So the guy wasn't a big fan of freedom and human rights, but still in war the enemy of you're enemy can be you're friend, unless the antifreedom guy was much, much worse than the Romans it would've been smarter 2 work together

  • @samuelhoran7898
    @samuelhoran7898 Год назад

    Josephus wasn't a sadducee, he was a pharisee. Maybe he was born into a sadducee family, but he changed his allegiance later on.

  • @x999uuu1
    @x999uuu1 4 года назад

    hell ya

  • @thebonkera1221
    @thebonkera1221 2 года назад

    reminds me of this time a rabbi blessed weed

  • @joncowley7185
    @joncowley7185 4 года назад

    Do the israel 1983 election plz

  • @maxi4182
    @maxi4182 4 года назад

    the rambam in sefer shofitim hilchos milachim says that he will usher in world peace but in the gemarah what it says is that the moshiach will come if the world is worthy i.e all of israel are righteous or all of israel are evil but this is just one of the many possibilities of how the moshiach can come

  • @x999uuu1
    @x999uuu1 4 года назад

    Where did all your political vids go?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  4 года назад +3

      I'm in the process of porting them all over to a new channel.
      ruclips.net/channel/UChm6ruT0nyR-6BceX6qpgdg

    • @whitelady1063
      @whitelady1063 4 года назад +1

      Why did you make a new channel without telling anyone ?

  • @NadavJulius
    @NadavJulius Год назад +1

    I don’t think that even most idf solders are sworn in on Masada… but like not actually important… just saying.

  • @brenosantana1458
    @brenosantana1458 4 года назад

    .

  • @trevor1667
    @trevor1667 2 года назад

    Weeeeeeee

  • @pravinpatel3472
    @pravinpatel3472 3 года назад +1

    Please go to history before 8000 BC . (A)brahman s cousins of jews enter India after long journey . They came from Egypt . Because at that only knowledge of rulling the commons was known by them only . That area was in continuous fighting.
    A Brahman s move to India . And rulled Indian natives with their cunning knowledge . Please check DNA of Brahmins . I am you will find Jews connection in their blood .
    They made the life of Indian natives very pity conditions . By applying caste system on them .
    More studies needed .

  • @KingAeetes
    @KingAeetes 3 года назад +1

    I'm glad that I didn't subscribe or give a thumbs up! I would have liked to have listened to the narrative but I couldn't because your stupid jazz music completely incapacitated my ability to concentrate on the narrative. Poor choice of music. Try this, since you failed so miserably at making this video a pleasant experience: NO MUSIC background at all!

    • @d.m.collins1501
      @d.m.collins1501 2 года назад +3

      Please, can you double the amount of jazz, and turn up the volume? And dedicate the music to John Smith.