Do you still like this kayak? I’m debating getting a 2022 while they are still available before they get phased out for the newer (and much heavier) max edition. I’m considering the hobie compass too. I want it light as possible for car topping
I do. The Hobie has the better drive but at this price point you'd more functional space than the Hobie. I currently have my cell block, fish finder, paddle holder, and Torqeedo throttle on the side rails with room to spare. I have my anchor lock on the front rail. On the back rails I have my home made Torqeedo mount, camera mount, and visa-pole. The hatch up front is also a dry storage for my tools and WW gear. If you aren't going to have a bunch of gear on it like I do, I would recommend the compass. It'll be faster and the drive won't get tangled as much in grass. If you are nuts like me and throw a bunch of stuff in, at this price, I'd do the Slayer 10. Tight lines!
Good stuff! Mines a few years older, and while there are other brands that are coming out with quality pedal drives and hull designs, the weight of the Native is a huge bonus for owners that have to car top it.
This is what the dealer told me and I wasn't sure because I know of someone who has the older version and their seat is just as high but I forgot they modded their seat so they have a 2 inch high increase. It's nice.
It's about 5in. I used to put my tackle organizers under the seat but because the drive hole is close it made getting them a pain sometimes unless I slid the seat the whole way back. Now I just throw packs of plastics under there that I need to get to quickly.
@@eddierivera1494 I'm 5'9" and I like my seat almost all the way back so I'm in a reclined position while pedaling. If I put the seat all the way forward I am sitting up with my back pushed into the seat which isn't ideal. There's a good amount of adjustability. You should be ok but if you have a dealer close, I would go see if you can sit in one to make sure you're comfortable.
I just sold my old kayak and sandy point isnt far from me ! About how long from order time till you got yours?what's the weight capacity just curious because I carry alot of gear?🎣🎣🎣
The weight capacity is 400lbs. The Titan 10.5 and Slayer 13 have a capacity of 500lbs but weight 97lbs and 89lbs respectively without the drive in it. My order took longer than normal but I ordered at the time of the year when manufacturers are changing / updating models. When I called the store they said it normally takes 2 weeks but they do try to keep that model in stock because it's fairly popular. I suggest calling them. They may have one in store for you to try or look at.
10/10 from me. Keep in mind I'm 5' 9" 160lbs. However, this kayak is more stable than my old Pelican Catch 100 which as also designed for standup fishing. I've never felt like I was going to tip or lose balance in this yak.
I am thinking of purchasing the 10 slayer propel, But I also see the manta ray propel 12. What are your thoughts on the latter? Its also at a better price point and cuts through water smoother I think. I want to use mainly for inshore fishing
If you can find a place to demo one I would. I'm not knowledgable on the Manta Ray line. However, it is designed for lakes, rivers, and bays and the hull would probably handle better in choppy conditions and would definitely be faster. The Slayer 10 has a bit more of a barge complex and is made to be able to stand when fishing. You can stand in the Manta Ray as well but it'll feel much more stable in the slayer. Again, if you can find one to demo I would recommend it. Otherwise, if the size, weight, and other specs fit your needs, it seems like it would be a good purchase.
Its a shame they could not have made these improvements sooner. One thing I don't like is how easily it can take water over the bow when peddling into a short chop.
It will still take water over the bow in my experience but it cuts through pretty well. I found pulling the scupper plugs allows it to drain very quickly and keeps the water out of the hull during choppy water.
It felt that way the first time I used it until I got used to it. It's like pedaling up a hill because you're trying to move water with the prop. Because you're moving in a circular motion the drive will sway a bit. The other options are like the Mega Drive by Hobie. It's a smoother back and forth motion rather than circular. It just doesn't offer instant reverse. If your bothered by the motion of the Native drive I suggest trying a brand with a Mega Drive-like system and see if that feels better for you.
@@firecaptaintom6670 I honestly don't know. I would expect cheaper to do the same or worse. The Hobie, Jackson, Oldtown and Native drives are all solid units with their ups and downs. I would expect them all to have a bit of wiggle or movement because they're not fixed in position. If you can get your hands on others to test drive, I highly recommend it. It's about finding what you feel comfortable with before dropping any $ on one.
Great review. Yes! Note below that a post mentions the thumb screw replacements for the bungee set up in the tank well. And, ordering from that company is great. A fine bunch run that shop. Note, too, that you never need to fasten down the pedal drive tray cover, just leave it loose except when you are transporting the 10 (otherwise it'll blow out!!!). And, you can fasten the two drive tabs up at the short thwart bar, but leave the 3rd one unfastened and your drive will kick up if you hit a submerged log. There is no noticeable difference between drive performance so this makes grabbing the drive, lifting it to clean the weeds off super fast. If I can find an email address for you up above, I'll send you one or two other ideas for your tournament fishing. Thanks again!!! I may get another 10. I love my 2015 model. Brad
Since fishing with it the last two months I leave the 3rd tab open so if I hit something it kicks up and so I can get it up quickly when needed. Can easily pedal with out it rising. I do need to pick up some thumb screws. The drive is really smooth. Pedaled about 10 miles in last week's tourney and wasn't overly tired.
It does. It has a deeper shell if that makes sense. With the drive and all my gear in it it sits in the water pretty solid. The catch was great but I felt like I was on top of the water if that makes sense.
BassinOrlando I own a catch 100 and thinking of getting the slayer 10, I just want to make sure it’s as stable or better, since it looks like the seat don’t adjust lower, it just goes forward and back
@@bosshawg_4083 If you can find a place to test one I would. The seat is higher but I like that in cases where I need to drop to a sitting position quickly.
Welcome to Native Watersports I have the Titan 12 love it but it’s beast to move. Been thinking of get second one to use in the hard to get to spots dragging it and was thinking about slayer 10. Great video thanks for sharing it . I sub you looking forward to see more of your stuff. Hope you show your thoughts on your next trip out in slayer hope you get lots of tight lines
It's $2100. I know Pelican makes the 130 for about $1500 with a drive system like the Hobie Mirage but it's 13ft long and heavier than this one. I'm not aware of anything cheaper than that at the moment.
@@TWoodringFishing thanks for the info.. I've really been looking into gettin one but defenatly need the peddle drive cause my backs screwed already and needs to be sturdy cause I'm a pretty heavy guy, kinda top heavy you know what I mean.. So really thanks for the info 👍
@@punkrockfishingfreak3901 No problem. I got one because after paddling 6-12 miles on a trip my back was killing me and I know I'll need to cover some distance on the Sunshine State Trail.
Cool rig, Yak Attack has tons of stuff for the rail system, I have the FX13 by Native, having a high seat and being able to stand far outweigh a sit on only kayak, you'll be clearing the drive system of weeds all the damn time, BUT instant reverse is why I chose Native
Where I fish I constantly clear the drive but for me to be able to continuously pedal for 2-3 miles without getting fatigued saves more time than I waste clearing it.
I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't have a lot of leg room if you're using the drive and the well in the back isn't super large or deep. Maybe if you have a smallish dog that would sit in the front hatch (lid off of course) but even then I probably wouldn't recommend this kayak for it.
@@hamdygames1283 It depends on how big your dog is. If you're not requiring a pedal drive there are a slew of kayak makers like Bonafide or Pelican that might fit your needs. If you're looking at Native, perhaps the Native Titan series would be better for you. It has a larger rear well and the 12+ ft models are quite roomy from what I've seen. Keep in mind they are larger, heavier, and more $ because of that.
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Great review, both on and off the water! I just bought a Max 10 and it should be here any day. Keep on rockin my man!
I'm jealous. From what I've seen it's faster and it's setup to be rigged a bit more serious. Enjoy it!
Appreciate this review, I’m definitely getting 1💪🏾
Great video brother! Currently shopping for my first kayak and this helped a lot.
Dude thank you for this. I have been looking everywhere for an overview of the 2020! Just bought one from ACK and waiting for it to be shipped.
I'm taking it out on a long trip tomorrow. Totally happy with it so far.
@@TWoodringFishing can you tell me if the rudder cables are cords or the steel ones? Thought they were supposed to be upgraded to cord for the 2020.
@@dredknot636 I'm not 100% sure. I'll have to take a look once I get a moment.
Ordered mine ..... waiting for it to arrive
Good review dude 👍
Looks like a fishing machine. I have a pelican bounty 100 sit inside and a challenger 100 angler sit on top. The slayer looks awesome.
Do you still like this kayak? I’m debating getting a 2022 while they are still available before they get phased out for the newer (and much heavier) max edition. I’m considering the hobie compass too. I want it light as possible for car topping
I do. The Hobie has the better drive but at this price point you'd more functional space than the Hobie. I currently have my cell block, fish finder, paddle holder, and Torqeedo throttle on the side rails with room to spare. I have my anchor lock on the front rail. On the back rails I have my home made Torqeedo mount, camera mount, and visa-pole. The hatch up front is also a dry storage for my tools and WW gear. If you aren't going to have a bunch of gear on it like I do, I would recommend the compass. It'll be faster and the drive won't get tangled as much in grass. If you are nuts like me and throw a bunch of stuff in, at this price, I'd do the Slayer 10. Tight lines!
Congrats on your new yak!!! I have a 2017 slayer propel 10 and I still love mine
Good stuff! Mines a few years older, and while there are other brands that are coming out with quality pedal drives and hull designs, the weight of the Native is a huge bonus for owners that have to car top it.
It's 90% of the reason I went with it. I think it's a better buy than the Pelican 10' pedal drive and I can still throw it on top of my car by myself.
I didn’t realize the 2020 came with a higher seat base! Good overview. Thanks.
This is what the dealer told me and I wasn't sure because I know of someone who has the older version and their seat is just as high but I forgot they modded their seat so they have a 2 inch high increase. It's nice.
How much space is there between the floor and bottom seat support bar ..... looks like 4-5 inches?
It's about 5in. I used to put my tackle organizers under the seat but because the drive hole is close it made getting them a pain sometimes unless I slid the seat the whole way back. Now I just throw packs of plastics under there that I need to get to quickly.
BassinOrlando ...... and pedal reach? I am 5’2...... not sure if that would be comfortable if reach is to short. What do you think
@@eddierivera1494 I'm 5'9" and I like my seat almost all the way back so I'm in a reclined position while pedaling. If I put the seat all the way forward I am sitting up with my back pushed into the seat which isn't ideal. There's a good amount of adjustability. You should be ok but if you have a dealer close, I would go see if you can sit in one to make sure you're comfortable.
BassinOrlando .... thank you. Sadly no dealer near me
Congrats on the new kayak!
I just sold my old kayak and sandy point isnt far from me ! About how long from order time till you got yours?what's the weight capacity just curious because I carry alot of gear?🎣🎣🎣
The weight capacity is 400lbs. The Titan 10.5 and Slayer 13 have a capacity of 500lbs but weight 97lbs and 89lbs respectively without the drive in it. My order took longer than normal but I ordered at the time of the year when manufacturers are changing / updating models. When I called the store they said it normally takes 2 weeks but they do try to keep that model in stock because it's fairly popular. I suggest calling them. They may have one in store for you to try or look at.
@@TWoodringFishing thank you so so much🌞🎣🎣
Thanks for the objective review. Good luck at your tourneys.
Sweet review!! 1-10 how is the stability that is a huge selling point for me! Thx
10/10 from me. Keep in mind I'm 5' 9" 160lbs. However, this kayak is more stable than my old Pelican Catch 100 which as also designed for standup fishing. I've never felt like I was going to tip or lose balance in this yak.
I am thinking of purchasing the 10 slayer propel, But I also see the manta ray propel 12. What are your thoughts on the latter? Its also at a better price point and cuts through water smoother I think. I want to use mainly for inshore fishing
If you can find a place to demo one I would. I'm not knowledgable on the Manta Ray line. However, it is designed for lakes, rivers, and bays and the hull would probably handle better in choppy conditions and would definitely be faster. The Slayer 10 has a bit more of a barge complex and is made to be able to stand when fishing. You can stand in the Manta Ray as well but it'll feel much more stable in the slayer. Again, if you can find one to demo I would recommend it. Otherwise, if the size, weight, and other specs fit your needs, it seems like it would be a good purchase.
BassinOrlando thank you for your reply. I appreciate it very much
@@davidhenrynickle If you end up getting the Manta let me know how it performs.
@@TWoodringFishing Will do. Im leaning towards getting it
Its a shame they could not have made these improvements sooner. One thing I don't like is how easily it can take water over the bow when peddling into a short chop.
It will still take water over the bow in my experience but it cuts through pretty well. I found pulling the scupper plugs allows it to drain very quickly and keeps the water out of the hull during choppy water.
You should seek a career in radio. You have that "radio guy" voice.
Nice yak 😎 congrats on the new ride.
I test drove this yak today. I'm new to kayak fishing. The drive felt a bit jerky to me and it looked similar for you. Thoughts?
It felt that way the first time I used it until I got used to it. It's like pedaling up a hill because you're trying to move water with the prop. Because you're moving in a circular motion the drive will sway a bit. The other options are like the Mega Drive by Hobie. It's a smoother back and forth motion rather than circular. It just doesn't offer instant reverse. If your bothered by the motion of the Native drive I suggest trying a brand with a Mega Drive-like system and see if that feels better for you.
@@TWoodringFishing
Thanks for the insight.
Would you expect other prop/pedal drives to act the same?
@@firecaptaintom6670 I honestly don't know. I would expect cheaper to do the same or worse. The Hobie, Jackson, Oldtown and Native drives are all solid units with their ups and downs. I would expect them all to have a bit of wiggle or movement because they're not fixed in position. If you can get your hands on others to test drive, I highly recommend it. It's about finding what you feel comfortable with before dropping any $ on one.
@@TWoodringFishing
Thanks again. I'll try to test an old town soon.
Great review. Yes! Note below that a post mentions the thumb screw replacements for the bungee set up in the tank well. And, ordering from that company is great. A fine bunch run that shop. Note, too, that you never need to fasten down the pedal drive tray cover, just leave it loose except when you are transporting the 10 (otherwise it'll blow out!!!). And, you can fasten the two drive tabs up at the short thwart bar, but leave the 3rd one unfastened and your drive will kick up if you hit a submerged log. There is no noticeable difference between drive performance so this makes grabbing the drive, lifting it to clean the weeds off super fast. If I can find an email address for you up above, I'll send you one or two other ideas for your tournament fishing. Thanks again!!! I may get another 10. I love my 2015 model. Brad
Since fishing with it the last two months I leave the 3rd tab open so if I hit something it kicks up and so I can get it up quickly when needed. Can easily pedal with out it rising. I do need to pick up some thumb screws. The drive is really smooth. Pedaled about 10 miles in last week's tourney and wasn't overly tired.
Thanks
Hardly any difference from the previous models. I do like the higher seat though.
When compared to the catch100 does the slayer feel more stable? I’m 6’1 230lbs
It does. It has a deeper shell if that makes sense. With the drive and all my gear in it it sits in the water pretty solid. The catch was great but I felt like I was on top of the water if that makes sense.
BassinOrlando I own a catch 100 and thinking of getting the slayer 10, I just want to make sure it’s as stable or better, since it looks like the seat don’t adjust lower, it just goes forward and back
@@bosshawg_4083 If you can find a place to test one I would. The seat is higher but I like that in cases where I need to drop to a sitting position quickly.
Does the 2020 model comes with the new pedal upgrade on the Max Slayer 12.5?
Yes. I believe all the 2020 models will come with the 701 drive.
Cool new kayak. What lake is this?
Fish Lake, Kissimmee
What is the height in between the kayak and the lowest cross bar underneath the seat? It looks to be lower than previous models.
It's about 5.5 inches.
Welcome to Native Watersports I have the Titan 12 love it but it’s beast to move. Been thinking of get second one to use in the hard to get to spots dragging it and was thinking about slayer 10. Great video thanks for sharing it . I sub you looking forward to see more of your stuff. Hope you show your thoughts on your next trip out in slayer hope you get lots of tight lines
What's the price like on that thing? I don't think you said..
It's $2100. I know Pelican makes the 130 for about $1500 with a drive system like the Hobie Mirage but it's 13ft long and heavier than this one. I'm not aware of anything cheaper than that at the moment.
@@TWoodringFishing thanks for the info.. I've really been looking into gettin one but defenatly need the peddle drive cause my backs screwed already and needs to be sturdy cause I'm a pretty heavy guy, kinda top heavy you know what I mean.. So really thanks for the info 👍
@@punkrockfishingfreak3901 No problem. I got one because after paddling 6-12 miles on a trip my back was killing me and I know I'll need to cover some distance on the Sunshine State Trail.
@@TWoodringFishing Pelican is also coming out with the 110HD in the new year , nice yak i have the slayer p 10, 19.
Does the seat go high and low... or only high?
It only has a high position. It does adjust front to back so you can adjust to your height for pedaling.
Cool rig, Yak Attack has tons of stuff for the rail system, I have the FX13 by Native, having a high seat and being able to stand far outweigh a sit on only kayak, you'll be clearing the drive system of weeds all the damn time, BUT instant reverse is why I chose Native
Where I fish I constantly clear the drive but for me to be able to continuously pedal for 2-3 miles without getting fatigued saves more time than I waste clearing it.
Could i bring my dog on this?
I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't have a lot of leg room if you're using the drive and the well in the back isn't super large or deep. Maybe if you have a smallish dog that would sit in the front hatch (lid off of course) but even then I probably wouldn't recommend this kayak for it.
@@TWoodringFishing thank you which would you recommend ?
@@hamdygames1283 It depends on how big your dog is. If you're not requiring a pedal drive there are a slew of kayak makers like Bonafide or Pelican that might fit your needs. If you're looking at Native, perhaps the Native Titan series would be better for you. It has a larger rear well and the 12+ ft models are quite roomy from what I've seen. Keep in mind they are larger, heavier, and more $ because of that.
@@TWoodringFishing thank you
2:49 in and couldn’t take it no more. Sniffling your nose constantly and breathing too hard man. Do a video when you get over Corona gezzz.
Haha this was way before Corona and for whatever reason that day nature was like have a face full of pollen.
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