Thanks for that. Great idea for a video. I listened on my iPhone speaker and I heard a difference. The Ozone is much fuller and deeper in dimension. But everything from mid range up sounded. very similar. For anyone with Logic who knows how to tweak it and isn’t a pro, maybe no need for Ozone.
I have both and while Ozone is more flexible and has a lot more features, I honestly think that overall one can use just Logic to produce professional music without any additional cost or plug ins. Granted, a full-service production studio might have somewhat higher expectations but I doubt they are much of a value add until someone is ready to sell music at a large scale. I've even found that the sound library and built-in instruments in Logic suffice most of the time for an entire project and am often overwhelmed by too many options. Let's face it most of us probably don't have the skill to use most of these mastering suites anyway and unless you are a mixing engineer having more sliders and buttons doesn't really improve ears.
Yes, most musicians will be happy with Logic's Mastering plugin. Ozone is for people that really know what they want and how to get there, like trained engineers. So just as you wrote, when you want a quick master of your Logic project, use its mastering plugin.
If you have a silicon powered MAC, yes, Logic mastering is free. However, if like me, you have an intel MAC (and no business case to replace with a silicon MAC in the near future), the Logic mastering features are very limited. Hence, Ozone, with one of the many discounts available, can be a great option to have some AI powered mastering.
I agree that Ozone is the more professional way to go, and I say so in the video. And those that don't have Logic Pro won't be able to use Logic's free mastering assistant anyway. I just wanted to show that it can come in handy when you have Logic Pro and want to master a song quickly for demo purposes with pretty good results.
@@popjazzkeys It just sucks that Apple is doing Apple things. Locking simple features behind their newest hardware knowing they could easily support the intel Mac users.
@@MarkYeeDaMajor True . But you have to understand that you never have to pay for a Logic Pro upgrade. 15 years ago I bought Logic Pro for 200 Dollars and never had to pay for any upgrade since. The downside is that you have to upgrade your computer frequently to run the newest features. In comparison, I spend 2300 Dollars on iZotope Ozone with all the payed upgrades over 12 years. That's the costs of a beautiful brand-new M3 MacBook Pro.
@@musictrainingonline Good point, Thomas. Thanks for making this useful and unbiased comparison. The two mastered tracks really didn't have to turn out as similar as they appear to be. Good to know.
@@MarkYeeDaMajorActually not true. Apple Silicon chips have some AI hardware that Intel chips simply don't have. Of course Apple could do the work twice, and somehow make it work on Intel chips too, but why? Intel is in the past now. If anybody is just a little bit serious about music and likes Logic, just get at least an M1 mac mini for a few hundred bucks. It is amazing. Huge difference compared to Intel. When everything is running natively (OS/Logic/all third party plugins) the experience is just amazing with Logic.
You didn't even try to follow any of the basic videos out there concerning what to do after you got the initial Logic analysis. There's SO much more you could have done.
I think you didn't quite get the point of the video, and probably didn't even watch it all the way through. This is not a tutorial on Mastering with Logic's Mastering Assistant, or Ozone. It's about comparing the result after Logic's and Ozone's Mastering Assistant AI did its thing without manually changing anything afterwards. The video is just about that. Sorry that this didn't come through clearly enough for you. I just wanted to see how the AI algorithms compare. Hope this helps. Cheers!
Thanks for that. Great idea for a video. I listened on my iPhone speaker and I heard a difference. The Ozone is much fuller and deeper in dimension. But everything from mid range up sounded. very similar. For anyone with Logic who knows how to tweak it and isn’t a pro, maybe no need for Ozone.
the difference is very noticeable at high frequencies
I get it, the logic has more depth in the low end.
I have both and while Ozone is more flexible and has a lot more features, I honestly think that overall one can use just Logic to produce professional music without any additional cost or plug ins. Granted, a full-service production studio might have somewhat higher expectations but I doubt they are much of a value add until someone is ready to sell music at a large scale. I've even found that the sound library and built-in instruments in Logic suffice most of the time for an entire project and am often overwhelmed by too many options. Let's face it most of us probably don't have the skill to use most of these mastering suites anyway and unless you are a mixing engineer having more sliders and buttons doesn't really improve ears.
Yes, most musicians will be happy with Logic's Mastering plugin. Ozone is for people that really know what they want and how to get there, like trained engineers. So just as you wrote, when you want a quick master of your Logic project, use its mastering plugin.
If you have a silicon powered MAC, yes, Logic mastering is free. However, if like me, you have an intel MAC (and no business case to replace with a silicon MAC in the near future), the Logic mastering features are very limited. Hence, Ozone, with one of the many discounts available, can be a great option to have some AI powered mastering.
Ozone is way better for the simple fact that you can use all the presets instead of just 1 because you don’t have an M1 Mac
I agree that Ozone is the more professional way to go, and I say so in the video. And those that don't have Logic Pro won't be able to use Logic's free mastering assistant anyway. I just wanted to show that it can come in handy when you have Logic Pro and want to master a song quickly for demo purposes with pretty good results.
@@popjazzkeys It just sucks that Apple is doing Apple things. Locking simple features behind their newest hardware knowing they could easily support the intel Mac users.
@@MarkYeeDaMajor True . But you have to understand that you never have to pay for a Logic Pro upgrade. 15 years ago I bought Logic Pro for 200 Dollars and never had to pay for any upgrade since. The downside is that you have to upgrade your computer frequently to run the newest features. In comparison, I spend 2300 Dollars on iZotope Ozone with all the payed upgrades over 12 years. That's the costs of a beautiful brand-new M3 MacBook Pro.
@@musictrainingonline Good point, Thomas. Thanks for making this useful and unbiased comparison. The two mastered tracks really didn't have to turn out as similar as they appear to be. Good to know.
@@MarkYeeDaMajorActually not true. Apple Silicon chips have some AI hardware that Intel chips simply don't have. Of course Apple could do the work twice, and somehow make it work on Intel chips too, but why? Intel is in the past now. If anybody is just a little bit serious about music and likes Logic, just get at least an M1 mac mini for a few hundred bucks. It is amazing. Huge difference compared to Intel. When everything is running natively (OS/Logic/all third party plugins) the experience is just amazing with Logic.
I couldn't hear a difference either.
You didn't even try to follow any of the basic videos out there concerning what to do after you got the initial Logic analysis. There's SO much more you could have done.
I think you didn't quite get the point of the video, and probably didn't even watch it all the way through. This is not a tutorial on Mastering with Logic's Mastering Assistant, or Ozone. It's about comparing the result after Logic's and Ozone's Mastering Assistant AI did its thing without manually changing anything afterwards. The video is just about that. Sorry that this didn't come through clearly enough for you. I just wanted to see how the AI algorithms compare. Hope this helps. Cheers!