Best Bench Vise? $60 vs $500 “Unbreakable” Vise? Irwin, Yost, Wilton, Ridgid, Heuer, Central Forge

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @ProjectFarm
    @ProjectFarm  3 месяца назад +2

    Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
    Heuer: amzn.to/3A7LkHa
    Ridgid: amzn.to/3XahqvR
    Yost: amzn.to/3trowOK
    Wilton: amzn.to/3O2TiHc
    Baileigh: amzn.to/3UUoLxE
    Irwin: amzn.to/3NZiWfX
    Forward: amzn.to/3fYghqc
    Central Forge: Available at Harbor Freight
    Olympia: amzn.to/3g38szE
    Myoyay: amzn.to/3tmOdQy

  • @WayneRandall
    @WayneRandall 2 года назад +3266

    I've made a few smart purchases and many smart non-purchases because of your tests. You are definitely the go to guy for honest tool reviews in real world situations.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +199

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @MrV1NC3N7V3G4
      @MrV1NC3N7V3G4 2 года назад +78

      Yup. The first place I go is PF to see if he's done a review.

    • @officialshadetreeamerica
      @officialshadetreeamerica 2 года назад +55

      Yup, I have been at the Home Depot a few times rewatching videos to make sure I get the best bang for my buck👍

    • @ThePrufessa
      @ThePrufessa 2 года назад +47

      It's definitely mandatory to check his channel before buying new tools.

    • @406Steven
      @406Steven 2 года назад +27

      I had to get some new impact Philips bits last week, I remembered watching the video but forgot which ones to go with. A few minutes later I made my purchase!

  • @scottsutherlin6132
    @scottsutherlin6132 2 года назад +277

    I have to say... I have sat in the parking lot at the big box store watching PF videos to help decide which tool I was going to walk in and buy! Thank you for all the amazing hard work you put into each video!

  • @maxcactus7
    @maxcactus7 2 года назад +447

    So many of us enjoy Project Farms videos, but few of us realize how much money, time, effort, careful thought and deliberation go into making each of these videos! These aren't quick easy tests by any stretch of the imagination. Sincere and profound thanks to our host, Todd, for saving us all a ton of time, money and frustration from buying crap tools! Cheers, Todd, you're simply fantastic!

    • @allwoundup3574
      @allwoundup3574 2 года назад +27

      Most of us realize this because there are a dozen comments just like this posted on every video

    • @johnargumaniz9179
      @johnargumaniz9179 2 года назад +9

      2.66 million subscribers will get you quite a bit of monetization. I’m sure the money aspect of it isn’t a factor as he makes it back many times over

    • @gregwillis7767
      @gregwillis7767 2 года назад +7

      I think he gets a kick out of these test, and just started recording one day. His "i wonder if" became "tool porn" for us. I've used flex seal myself, but never built a running engine with no bolts at all!.

    • @cherrycoke106
      @cherrycoke106 2 года назад +4

      That realisation is why most of us like his stuff so much.

    • @bobkin611
      @bobkin611 2 года назад +5

      Amen to that. He is an incredible human being.

  • @nunyabusiness2127
    @nunyabusiness2127 2 года назад +290

    The vertical drop test was brutal...and very fun to watch. Great job as always!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +9

      Thanks!

    • @arturcybulski6182
      @arturcybulski6182 Год назад +5

      Fun but not fair as hitting point should be at te same distance from the Vice.

    • @fredfred4086
      @fredfred4086 11 месяцев назад

      Yes, Todd takes no prisoners.

    • @layZjayZ
      @layZjayZ 7 месяцев назад

      Its got me laughing

  • @blinky444
    @blinky444 2 года назад +209

    One my biggest takeaways was how the Central Forge finished so close to its average in each individual placing, i.e. no major outlier finishes. This suggests some pretty solid consistency at almost all the tests. Not bad at all for a budget vice, probably a solid choice for most small-shop situations. Great stuff Todd, then again it's ALWAYS great stuff.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 года назад +6

      I have the smaller CF vice, for my home shop (that I have yet to re-build after moving, lol) and have been pretty happy with it, especially after disabling it and giving her a proper lube job. My only complaint is because of my own damn fault, I lost a part that kept the jaw from coming completely out!

    • @bixby9797
      @bixby9797 2 года назад +5

      Like most HF gear I would not want to run a business with it but for home garage types and do it yourselfers most of it is a solid value and will get the job done.

    • @Wohlfe
      @Wohlfe Год назад +3

      I'll never buy a precision tool from HF like squares, and I'll always research a power tool from them first, but for everything else it's cheap and gets the job done, and there's even some real gems. You can always buy something from HF and if you break it down then line then you know to spend the money on the good stuff.

    • @waygonner
      @waygonner Год назад +2

      Real world take on the central forge is that it holds up well over time. I do a ton of metal work for old cars and have had that vice on my bench for about 5 years. It’s taken a beating and I have no complaints.

    • @papasauce234
      @papasauce234 2 месяца назад

      @@bixby9797 agreed, harbor freight generally makes products with the philosophies of either making something so cheap that it cant really be bad, average for a good price, or just flat out good but not quite as nice as more expensive options
      the former 2 are very nice for when you think you need a new tool, if you use especially the "average" tool a lot, then you can buy something better, if you dont use it much, who cares, it wasnt very expensive

  • @exp3rt468
    @exp3rt468 2 года назад +176

    We Germans don't take pride in many things, but one of the few things were out pride is at it's highest is build quality. Awsome review, keep them coming.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +12

      Great point! Thank you

    • @lassaut6794
      @lassaut6794 2 года назад +32

      While i agree about Germany's tool quality... Im not so sure about that first statement though...

    • @Sam-bj6kb
      @Sam-bj6kb 2 года назад +3

      Cheers from Mannheim 🍺

    • @nickcohen7748
      @nickcohen7748 2 года назад +5

      One thing Germans should take pride for is cars. Y’all produce some extremely well made cars.

    • @BamaShinesDistillery
      @BamaShinesDistillery 2 года назад +19

      @@nickcohen7748 really? I don't see it.

  • @FireballTool
    @FireballTool 2 года назад +50

    I know everyone wants to see the Fireball Hardtail in this test, but unfortunately it wouldn’t be a fair fight. The Hardtail is in a different weight class 270lbs and price point. For example the Hardtail’s handle starts to bend at 40,000lbs.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @thehourglasswithaman
      @thehourglasswithaman 2 года назад +7

      Maybe he could test it along with a like 50 year old vice and see which is more heavy duty

    • @SRMWorkshop
      @SRMWorkshop 2 года назад +1

      Hardware store vices really are in a different class than a big vice like the FBT Hardtail. Can't wait till the pre-orders start flowing again so I can finally get mine 😁

    • @jake9705
      @jake9705 2 года назад +4

      There's also the little matter that the Fireball Tool vise doesn't exist.
      There's five positive reviews of the Fireball vise on its website but so far none have been delivered to customers, what a scam 😂

    • @FireballTool
      @FireballTool 2 года назад +1

      @@jake9705 Lots of vises have been delivered.

  • @kameronrobinson6298
    @kameronrobinson6298 2 года назад +140

    Gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed not only with the comprehensive nature of your testing but how wholesome this community of informed buyers you've helped create. been watching a long time and definitely wont stop. keep up the great work!

  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel 2 года назад +158

    Was hoping to see Doyle from HF, have one of those among 5 other vices mostly US made and it's surprisingly not bad. Great tests PF!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +124

      Thank you! I'll include Doyle in another showdown if there's enough interest. I have several other methods of testing vises for round 2.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel 2 года назад +37

      @@ProjectFarm Awesome, I'll definitely be watching that

    • @flintlickteig4603
      @flintlickteig4603 2 года назад +20

      @@ProjectFarm Second on the Doyle

    • @RealJeep
      @RealJeep 2 года назад +10

      @@TorqueTestChannel Look at you also watching Todd to see how it's done! Love your channel by the way.

    • @hossrod
      @hossrod 2 года назад +9

      Very interested in seeing how the Doyle stacks up!

  • @MF-le7fp
    @MF-le7fp 2 года назад +183

    Project Farm has become the benchmark, for which all the other tool reviewer videos are judged. Nobody does it as well. A few come close. But the majority fall far short. You've mastered the art of this media platform. 👍
    In regard to the vices, I spun the cylinder, and pulled the trigger on Horror Freight's Central Forge, in 2019, when they still had the 20% off coupons. Cost me less than $50. All I can say is I'm glad I did.
    Timex would be proud to put their name on this vice. It has taken a thrashing so severely in the last 2 1/2 years, that i've now repainted it twice. It's currently British racing green. If you get this vice, you probably won't be disappointed.
    One plus for this vice is that the jaws are secured by recessed, hex head (Allen) screws. The negative is that HF doesn't sell replacement jaws, nor do they sell an optional smooth faced set, for "mar free" clamping. I often use it for wood working, and the factory jaws do a number on anything soft they clamp down on. So I went to Wally World and bought one of those 1/2" thick, white, nylon/plastic cutting boards, and made multiple sets of "soft jaws" out of it, for the vice. The board thickness was perfect for this. No more diamond patterns embossed into my work pieces. 👍
    Also, if mounting this vice onto a plywood work bench top (especially any top less than 3/4" thickness), I highly recommend using a section of plate steel under it, due to it only being a "3 hole" design. Once torqued down, it is rock solid.
    Vice Mounting 101 - "Pro Tip" for first time vice owners. When mounting, (ie..BEFORE you drill the holes in your bench top, and plate!), make sure that the inner face of the REAR jaw on your vice, is at least 1", to 1.5" FORWARD of (ie..clears it, by), the edge of your work bench!
    If it does not, then you will NEVER be able to secure any work piece south of the jaws, longer than 6.5", or so.
    Don't ask me how I know this. 😂

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +17

      Thanks so much!

    • @stimpyueediot
      @stimpyueediot 2 года назад +14

      Side note. Also be sure to mount the vice directly above a leg of the workbench and not in the middle of the table.

    • @salazam
      @salazam Месяц назад +1

      _clicks read more_
      Gets hit with War and Peace.
      _clicks show less and slowly backs away_

  • @neutrodyne
    @neutrodyne 2 года назад +119

    This is one guy that can destroy stuff and be loved by all for doing it! His tests are always eye-openers. It would have been nice to have had an old American vise in the test to see how well it would have held up. Thanks Todd for sharing your time and talents with us.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +6

      You are welcome!

    • @TheReal1953
      @TheReal1953 2 года назад +13

      I have one of those huge, great American vises made for Craftsman back in the day. The LAST thing we need to see are some of those great old vises destroyed. There will never be anymore made like those.

    • @diltzm
      @diltzm 2 года назад +9

      Check out Fireball Tool, he made a vise video awhile back that's definitely worth watching. Even custom fabricated a vise of his own design to improve on the weak points of other vises.

    • @garycarpenter2932
      @garycarpenter2932 2 года назад +2

      @@TheReal1953 my dad had one in his garage. i used it when i was young. i tell ya, it never faltered from any abuse. and abuse it had.

    • @plane-o-1292
      @plane-o-1292 2 года назад +1

      ​@@TheReal1953 Couldn't agree more!

  • @jakelaughton683
    @jakelaughton683 2 года назад +130

    The best vice is the one that your grandad had. This is a perfect example of a tool that “they just don’t make like they used to”.
    I’ve got a Record vice made in Sheffield that is around 70 years old and spent 50 years in a blacksmith’s shop at a coal mine. It’s barely got a scratch on it.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +13

      Nice!

    • @jpikl1284
      @jpikl1284 Год назад +7

      Record can be crazy high quality, that brand made vises when Britain was an empire. If it says "Record STEEL" on it, that's a cast steel vise that almost no other brand ever made. Heuer is forged steel which is nice and theoretically better, but the cast steel Record is just so much thicker that it's just waaay stronger. They had numbers designating what it was made for, for example the no.35 was their top of the line engineer vise made from steel or nodular (ductile) cast iron, that would cost over 1000$ if made nowadays (like the top end Wilton Bullet vises or a Swiss Gressel). But the most amazing was the Record 518 "Heavy Chipping STEEL" vise, a cast steel behemoth so heavy that it would crush most regular workbenches...

    • @dougyoung221
      @dougyoung221 Год назад +2

      ' Coal mine ' says it all. They don't skimp on buying the best.

    • @sandgrownun66
      @sandgrownun66 Год назад +1

      @@jpikl1284 Looking at pictures of the vice you mentioned. I noticed that it gives the model number as "518 1/2". I suppose that 1/2 makes all the difference!

    • @jeremy-m6b-m8n
      @jeremy-m6b-m8n Год назад

      You won’t be buying another one if the first one you bought lasts forever. It’s fucked up, but it’s what happens when you combine capitalism with corruption.

  • @scubasteve06
    @scubasteve06 2 года назад +229

    I've had the Fireball Tool 5 inch vise for awhile now and it has lasted through everything I have done with it. The big selling point is the base being designed for welding tables that have 5/8 holes spaced 2 inches apart, which meant that I was able to take it out of the box and bolt it to my table and it can be moved to any position on the table. It would be a good one to include if you ever do a round 2 of testing.

    • @torinireland6526
      @torinireland6526 2 года назад +34

      YESSSSSS, please test the Fireball Tool vise!

    • @uberDoward
      @uberDoward 2 года назад +8

      Thirded!

    • @lprocter1982
      @lprocter1982 2 года назад +9

      4th-ed for Fireball Tool's vice!

    • @ac.creations
      @ac.creations 2 года назад +11

      And his video destroying vices is informative

    • @randywl8925
      @randywl8925 2 года назад +1

      How much? 😁

  • @AIRDRAC
    @AIRDRAC 2 года назад +396

    Wow! I think this is the first time that something "unbreakable" has actually lived up to the claim on your channel! Fantastic video as always!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +40

      Thanks!

    • @jpikl1284
      @jpikl1284 2 года назад +41

      By the way, the 140mm Heuer is ~200€+ shipping in Europe, not 500$.

    • @johndudemech9471
      @johndudemech9471 2 года назад +6

      @@jpikl1284 No surprising if you convert euros to usd =/

    • @Slazlo-Brovnik
      @Slazlo-Brovnik 2 года назад +33

      @@johndudemech9471 Well currently it's almost 1:1

    • @nils1953
      @nils1953 2 года назад +12

      @@jpikl1284 he has the 160mm version, as that is inline with the 8" throat length. That one is 260€.

  • @redred9000
    @redred9000 2 года назад +62

    As someone who is going to be building and buying my own garage shop, and home maintenance place your channel is (and has always been) the best for helping me decide what to buy! You have helped me more then you'll ever know! And this episode is no different! Thank you for all of your work!

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 2 года назад +1

      if you want to know about batt tools. indepth,,watch ave / boltr. makita, is still the best.. but like all tools, you have to pik & shovel, [ choose ]..very few manufacturers make,oversea, there own tools, makita, is 1 of maybe 4 that do..

    • @redred9000
      @redred9000 2 года назад

      @@harrywalker5836 oh for sure! Thank you for the suggestion!

  • @19ghost73
    @19ghost73 Год назад +34

    Outstanding tests! As a German I didn't hesitate to get me a true HEUER vise a few years ago. They are a LOT cheaper here than in the US but of course still way more expensive than some Chinese cast iron vises. I got the "160"-model, i.e. one size up from what was tested here, and I paid about 1/2 the price shown here.
    And I didn't regret it a single day! 😃

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

    • @wadesaxton6079
      @wadesaxton6079 Год назад +3

      Can they bought at any hardware store in Germany? Maybe I’ll buy one there next time I visit.

    • @michaelavilov3443
      @michaelavilov3443 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@wadesaxton6079 Seems to only be available at Hornbach, and you have to order it in store.

    • @Adriaan1987
      @Adriaan1987 11 месяцев назад +2

      Wirklich? don’t you have proper hardware stores in Germany anymore ? Cross the border, you can buy them everywhere in the Netherlands, even in the small town I live (Zwolle) are like 5 stores that sell several models.

    • @dirk143
      @dirk143 7 месяцев назад +1

      As a fellow German. Heuer, Leinen, Ridgid/peddinghaus are all good with different strenghts and weaknesses. also any English or German made that survied 50years are usually good for another 50.

  • @Brazzelkanal
    @Brazzelkanal 2 года назад +65

    Got Heuers in our workshop, they are installed since 30 years, they got welding marks, angle grinder cuts and slightly bent handles, but they still work perfectly.
    And considering that here in Germany the 140mm(8inch of span) just cost 190€, it's a good value.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @Juhuuu
      @Juhuuu 2 года назад +13

      Yup. They seem to be dummy expensive in the states. I got my 140 mm with replaceable jaws shipped from Germany for a little over 200 € if I remember correctly.
      Haven't regretted that purchase a day since. It's a joy to use and will most certainly outlast me.

    • @blarfroer8066
      @blarfroer8066 2 года назад +6

      Probably import taxes. It's not the first time that something reasonably priced in Europe ends up being expensive in the States.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 2 года назад +3

      @@blarfroer8066
      Seems unfair given in the UK I bought a pair of Irwin 'Vise grips' for less than £20 (less than $25 USD).
      They're awesome too! I've beat on them for a year now and they're still going strong and then some!

    • @jasonw277
      @jasonw277 2 года назад

      @@blarfroer8066 every other vice here is made in China, imported and sold for less than the markup in price for the German counterpart.

  • @4xdblack
    @4xdblack 2 года назад +180

    I was seriously impressed with the harbor freight central forge vise in this test. I had avoided them for so long because I heard they were brittle and quick to break, but this video tells an entirely different tale!

    • @benjaminhoagland8473
      @benjaminhoagland8473 2 года назад +14

      I have the mini 2.5" clamp on vice. I've had it for 3 years and put it through a ton of abuse. Best

    • @robot_hitcher
      @robot_hitcher 2 года назад +4

      I have the 6 inch rotatable one with the pipe clamp on the under side and a 6” host at work. The model numbers make a difference as well. Happy with both vises honestly.

    • @robertopenheimer1451
      @robertopenheimer1451 2 года назад +12

      Harbor Freight has stepped up it's game. Checkout the video review of their 3 ton jack stands. Their stands had been recalled over safety issues. The new stands are top notch. I almost want to sell my current 6 ton stands and buy a pair of theirs.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +17

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 2 года назад

      And 1 of the lighter vises, too. If it weighed 5 more pounds, it would have finished even higher!

  • @4130quentinriddle
    @4130quentinriddle 2 года назад +15

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You run an amazing channel and provide such important information. The detail you go through alone to ensure fair and accurate testing is bar none. I applaud you good sir. Thank you.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @AaronColton93
    @AaronColton93 2 года назад +17

    I had that exact Irwin vise break while pressing an upper shock bearing in. I got lucky as everything broke. I replaced it with a Wilton 1765 about 4 years ago. It is one of my favorite tools in the shop and should be a lifelong piece. Thank you for your time on this test.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      You are welcome!

    • @ultimate1576
      @ultimate1576 Год назад +1

      I also have a 1765 Wilton, bought in 2017 and made in USA. It's unfortunate that Wilton has moved the production of the Bullet line of vices overseas. One of these USA Wilton Bullets surely would have been #1 in this test. They're heirloom quality.

    • @salazam
      @salazam Месяц назад

      Aren't you supposed to use a press for that?

  • @cobrolol2204
    @cobrolol2204 2 года назад +10

    I do not have any needs for a bench vise but I’m addicted to your non biased views and fair tests! Thanks for all the videos you have put up! Made some smart purchases as an auto tech thanks to your thorough reviews!

  • @ubermusli
    @ubermusli 2 года назад +153

    YES! A vise is one of those things that I've always been told not to cheap out on, looking forward to seeing if a higher price really means better quality!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +15

      Great point! Thank you

    • @95TurboSol
      @95TurboSol 2 года назад +14

      TLDR; the answer is no lol

    • @firstman9273
      @firstman9273 2 года назад +21

      @@95TurboSol The only vice to survive was the more expensive heuer so answer is yes.

    • @MrAnthony992
      @MrAnthony992 2 года назад +7

      I was also told that. And yet, the two afordable prise ones (Forge & Foward) out performe some of the more expensive ones🤯
      ..I got the foward dual jaws.

    • @brekkoh
      @brekkoh 2 года назад +12

      @@firstman9273 only when you consider the best quality vise, the results pretty clearly indicate, value does not scale linearly with price

  • @AlainHubert
    @AlainHubert 2 года назад +42

    I don't need to buy a vise, but as soon as I saw this video by Project Farm testing some, I had to watch it! That's how good this channel is! Thanks for sharing.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thank you very much!!

    • @clayreal
      @clayreal 2 года назад +1

      My thoughts exactly.
      I don’t need a vice but i need project farm to “Test That”.

    • @davidepannone6021
      @davidepannone6021 2 года назад

      I don't even do diy but i find these vids so entertaining for some reason lol

    • @lfish21.
      @lfish21. 2 года назад

      I’m not sure I have ever bought anything from this channel. But I watch every video.

  • @opinionatedman
    @opinionatedman 2 года назад +88

    I've broke 4 bench vises over the years. The one I have now is an old one from I believe the 70s era and it is built like a tank. If by some chance I manage to break it (wasn't a high end vise from what I've researched) I'll definitely shell out for the expensive "unbreakable" one. When using a vise I want it to be as strong as possible because I expect a lot from it. Thanks for another good comparison video.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +13

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

    • @emotionz3
      @emotionz3 2 года назад +15

      Same here. My old craftsman is built insanely better than my modern craftsman. The metallurgy and tolerances of modern vices are terrible.

    • @grahamepigney8565
      @grahamepigney8565 Год назад +5

      I agree. I have a Record engineer's bench vice from the '30s/'40s that was passed down through the family plus a '50s Record woodworker's bench vice that I found on Ebay. Both from the days when Record actually made Record vices.
      If either of them nreaks I'd search for an equivalent 2nd-hand replacement rather than pay the bucks for a modern one.

    • @TheLukasDirector
      @TheLukasDirector Год назад +9

      We have about 15 Heuer vises at our (European) metalworking shop. They really are indestructible. A lot of them are older than any of the employees and they display no wear at all. I have never seen one break, and that's after an unfair share of hammering, grinding, welding, and various other forms of abuse. I'm actually kind of surprised they are still in business, because we've never had to buy a new one either (that I remember).

    • @MrHeHim
      @MrHeHim Год назад +3

      Dang, i was actually thinking the Irwin would be a good choice for the price. Then again this whole video i was thinking, I've used some unbelievably nice old vices but never really stressed them. You got a good point, now I'm thinking of just getting a good old used one and it should outlast even "good" new ones

  • @piercerounds8562
    @piercerounds8562 2 года назад +58

    It's awesome to see the test rigs that you come up with to perform your testing with. You really put a lot of effort into your videos! Also nice upgrade in the testing equipment. You do great with educating a lot of buyers out there.

  • @derekanaya
    @derekanaya 2 года назад +42

    The only complaint I have is tiny, but during the hammer test, all the pieces being hammered were at different lengths in the vices. Those different lengths would make a massive difference in force applied to the jaws. Otherwise, very comprehensive and well thought out testing sir!

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 2 года назад +44

    Nice test, and good information. One bench vise I would recommend is the Fireball tools hardtail model. It's made in USA, and he also did a test of vises, and his definitely survived. His is available with deposit for preorder, which might help explain that it's handmade.
    I would mention that Wilton does make some professional vise's in USA.

    • @RealJeep
      @RealJeep 2 года назад +2

      The USA made Wilton's still have Wilton quality but not the CCP made ones.

    • @robertbenedict4651
      @robertbenedict4651 2 года назад +7

      I was at the Fabtech show in Atlanta this past week and meet Jason from Fireball. They had the Fireball vise for sale $5800.00. I have their welding squares but cannot justify that much for a vise.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +7

      Thanks! Thanks for the recommendation.

    • @shadetreewrenching
      @shadetreewrenching 2 года назад +1

      Agree on Wilton. Would love to have seen one of their better vises versus that Chinese consumer grade one. I have a smaller bullet from the 50's as well as a somewhat newer tradesman 6".

    • @austindonald6939
      @austindonald6939 2 года назад +1

      @@RealJeep I can't believe they even let their name be put on that thing. My 8" bullet vices seem unbreakable.

  • @mikeelliott9067
    @mikeelliott9067 2 года назад +18

    About 50 plus years ago I inherited a vice from my father. I have used it hundreds of times and am amazed it has never disappointed. The jaw is 4" wide and can open up to a usable approx. 8". The vise embossed markings are: (right side) THE CHAS. PARKER CO. MERIDAN, CT. USA , (LEFT SIDE) SEMI-STEEL, SOLID BAR, PATENTED, JAN. 2 1806, NOV. 22 1810 , NO. 239X I enjoy all of your testing. Very useful, Don't ever stop Todd!!

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 2 года назад +25

    "Bent right out of the box". Too funny. More than likely someone bought it, used it, and returned it. Seen it many times before. Love the torture tests. Thank you for another fantastic testing video!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +3

      You are welcome!

    • @BL-yj2wp
      @BL-yj2wp 2 года назад

      Spares the user some work.

  • @REDBIRD-95
    @REDBIRD-95 2 года назад +4

    I bought my Larin 5" vise years and years ago from Costco. This thing has been through hell and back, been pounded on over and over with a sledge hammer and is still a workhorse. Thank you Todd for another amazing video on this chilly Sunday afternoon.

  • @charlesolrich5898
    @charlesolrich5898 2 года назад +114

    I know they are considerably more expensive; but I’d like to see a similar test between the higher end vices. Especially the USA made Wilton and it’s counterparts. Great video as always!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +11

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @IMABIGKIDNOWW
      @IMABIGKIDNOWW 2 года назад +15

      @@ProjectFarm would like to see fireball tool!

    • @codyg7936
      @codyg7936 2 года назад +3

      @@ProjectFarm let’s see a “snap on”vise in that comparison!

    • @KennyInVegas
      @KennyInVegas 2 года назад +16

      @@codyg7936 Snap-on was made by Wilton... i have an old Bullet Wilton. It would blow away everyone of those vises.

    • @Daniel-Weaver
      @Daniel-Weaver 2 года назад +6

      @@KennyInVegas Same here,I have my Dad's 5 inch bullet. Scored a beat up 4 inch and rebuilt it for my son. There's a guy on ebay that has brand new jaws. I also got the correct swivel base from him. Made an extra long handle out of a 15 inch 1/2" socket extension.

  • @stoner_crew179
    @stoner_crew179 Год назад +1

    I have seen many of his videos and I like how he tries to intervene as little as possible and with as few variables as possible, being as technical and easy to understand at the same time.

  • @Quwoll
    @Quwoll 2 года назад +28

    Nice Video, I'm from germany and own a Heuer Vise with replaceable jaws and a swiveling base, it cost me arround 250€, that our german tools are so expensive in america is always shocking to me :/ But I always love it when someone like you tests those tools against your brands, good work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks!

    • @edm514
      @edm514 2 года назад +1

      I didn’t realize it was that much cheaper over there. Does that ring true for knipex Tools as well?

    • @joergschoettle6959
      @joergschoettle6959 2 года назад +3

      @@edm514 they are slightly less expensive in Germany, but not so much that it would cover shipping costs across the pond.

    • @MrCROBosanceros
      @MrCROBosanceros 2 года назад +3

      American tools and other products are usually at least twice as much expensive in Europe than in North America.

  • @OneWheelDrive365
    @OneWheelDrive365 2 года назад +6

    I have a brockhaus heuer 140 here in the Netherlnds. They are a lot cheaper here around 215,- euro. The play off the jaw is adjustable by tightening the bolt on de side of the base of the brockhaus.
    Can't wait till next week's video i like them a lot!

  • @benjaminfalkner1160
    @benjaminfalkner1160 2 года назад +14

    The chart at the end, the competition throughout the video, this was a top notch production from you. Keep it up!

  • @pete89spotsin
    @pete89spotsin 2 года назад +31

    I absolutely love how you get the information out there nice and quick, it's a load of information at the speed of which we understand and the speed of which we like to watch, you are doing such an amazing job and I'm such a proud subscriber of project farm

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +3

      Thank you!

    • @insomniacryan9916
      @insomniacryan9916 2 года назад

      Absolutely agree! Now this is good data delivered at the kind of super speed we want. 10/10, subscribed

  • @IanLConnors
    @IanLConnors 2 года назад +93

    My uncle has a massive collection of antique vises of all types. I am very interested to see how those compare to the modern vises in this testing.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +52

      I'd really like to test some vintage vises!

    • @gus473
      @gus473 2 года назад +5

      @@ProjectFarm Guessing it will be like Vintage Craftsman vs. Current model (sadly)! 😎✌🏼

    • @RealJeep
      @RealJeep 2 года назад +6

      @@gus473 I have an old 6" Craftsman (USA) vise that I have abused for decades! When vise manufacturers farmed out production to the CCP we all know what happened.

    • @BryceKimball7.3
      @BryceKimball7.3 2 года назад +2

      @@gus473 they are both junk lol

    • @Garth2011
      @Garth2011 2 года назад +2

      @@ProjectFarm There will be massive differences...they won't break or fail like the junk sold today.

  • @KableTac
    @KableTac 2 года назад +7

    i ended up buying 2 5-1/2" wilton vises and ive been perfectly happy so far with them. They retailed for like $130, but the local napa accidentally bought an entire pallet extra so they put them on sale for $80 each.

  • @shanehanson6013
    @shanehanson6013 2 года назад +8

    Perfect timing on this video. Just today I was looking at a few small vise for my portable workbench and was not really even putting Central Forge into my options for consideration, and now I am kind of leaning that way.

  • @seanrwhalen
    @seanrwhalen Год назад +38

    Great tests! As someone who has broken a couple of vises at least than opportune moments, it looks like it might be fun breaking one for science. Speaking of science, I always enjoy seeing the clever test rigs you come up with to produce repeatable and fair data across all the devices you're comparing.

  • @wyblackwolf
    @wyblackwolf 2 года назад +83

    There's a vice from Fireball tool that I really want to get, mainly to keep in the truck since it doubles as a jack. I know they did a fair bit of testing already on their channel, but I'd love to see what you could come up with to maybe push it to failure. Also I'm very impressed with the Central Forge, gonna have to keep this in mind when I build a new bench

    • @jeremykoehn4004
      @jeremykoehn4004 2 года назад +8

      I've always wanted to get his plans and build a FireBall vice

    • @wyblackwolf
      @wyblackwolf 2 года назад +1

      @@jeremykoehn4004 I know, they look sooooo good, I'd just need someone to cut out the parts and weld it up for me.

    • @valkyriefrost5301
      @valkyriefrost5301 2 года назад +7

      I have the larger Central Forge (HF) vice with the swivel head and bottom pipe clamp. It works really well holding 1.5 inch iron pipe. However, the vice's iron is soft and I striped out the original lock screw on day 1. I tapped the stripped hole for a much larger screw and it has been holding up well for several years now.

    • @LitheInLitotes
      @LitheInLitotes 2 года назад

      It's stupidly heavy and one function should not have been added. It underperforms as a floor jack. Not completely thought out

    • @chrisrose7508
      @chrisrose7508 2 года назад +1

      That thing is nuts lol

  • @spagamoto
    @spagamoto 2 года назад +13

    A vise is one of those critical tools that I'd take a horrible wooden one over no vise at all! Very impressed with the Harbor Freight one. I use an old Wilton bullet vise in my shop, it's never let me down. Sad to see the modern Wilton do so poorly. I put some copper jaws on mine, now there's little that can escape its grasp! Thanks for all you do!

    • @nrml76
      @nrml76 2 года назад

      These are light duty vices. For holding something for filing, hack-sawing or something similar, most of them would function well enough to get the job done.

    • @mguerramd
      @mguerramd 2 года назад +3

      Wilton have both Chinese and USA made vises. The USA ones are top notch. I wouldn’t buy any Chinese vise. Edit: Since I bought my USA made 1755 Tradesman, in 2017, they are now made in Taiwan. So I have no idea what’s going on at Wilton, if they make anything in the USA or not.

    • @MrCROBosanceros
      @MrCROBosanceros 2 года назад +1

      Those tools made in China will never be as good as the original tools made in the USA. I consider them toys, not serious professional tools.

    • @adollarshort1573
      @adollarshort1573 2 года назад

      If you look at the Wilton and Yost catalogs you will see that they sell vices of much higher quality than the ones in the test...some of which are Made In USA. If you think that $500 German vice is expensive, hold on to your lug nuts! It would have been eye-opening to see one of these in the test but it's easy to spend someone else's $$$. Anyway, the test really shows how vices people like me can afford (or even need) stacked up against each other. Thanks again Project Farm!!!👍

  • @jonathansherwood5841
    @jonathansherwood5841 2 года назад +20

    I see round two coming for vises 😁
    Perhaps Fireball tool, Capri tools, and Doyle could be making an appearance then?!
    Wow, unbreakable indeed! Very impressive, Heuer!
    What a surprise that the Harbor Freight and Forward vises performed better than I had anticipated. For budget vises under 100 bucks, not bad at all.
    Thanks again PF!

    • @TheDeathM
      @TheDeathM 2 года назад +3

      I would like to see this as well. Maybe some very old vices as well.

    • @ExtremeSquared
      @ExtremeSquared 2 года назад

      Doyle, Yost, and Capri all rebrand and switch between the same Chinese OEMs depending on line. Brand loyalty for vise resellers is tough to justify.

    • @thehourglasswithaman
      @thehourglasswithaman 2 года назад

      @@TheDeathM that’s what I’ve been saying, my only vice is a 40-50 pounder from like the 50s or 60s and other then lugging it around because I don’t have it mounted it’s great for a vise I got for free

  • @Rodsrib1
    @Rodsrib1 7 месяцев назад

    Bought a Forward three days ago, saw this video today (5/23/2024) and now I feel reasonably good about my purchase !
    Thanks for the time and effort making these videos.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  7 месяцев назад

      You are welcome! Glad to hear!

  • @BDKennels
    @BDKennels 2 года назад +11

    I have 2 of the Central Forge vises in my shop. One is about 3 years old and the other 2. No problems with either yet. I'm not abusively hard on them but they do get a lot of use. I do a lot of welding and metal work. Thanks for another very informative test.

  • @yoyoma2026
    @yoyoma2026 2 года назад +74

    Wow, very impressive tests! I would have been a bit scared during that last test. The Crentral forge impressed me too. I wonder how the new HF Doyle line of vices would compare.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +14

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @JonpMathewsdxt
      @JonpMathewsdxt 2 года назад +7

      I have the 6 inch Doyle and it’s a beast. But of coarse I don’t use this hard. But for a vice for automotive work it’s hard to beat for the money. Just my 2 cents.

    • @manunava1776
      @manunava1776 2 года назад +8

      Yeah, I was hoping the bigger Doyle would be included on this test! I'm very happy with the one I picked up a few months ago with a 'no exclusions' 25% off discount. Would like to know how it sized up in this test..

    • @hondaphan4172
      @hondaphan4172 2 года назад +3

      @@manunava1776 Yeah, I have the 5" Doyle and I really like it but it's a slightly different design/style from the 4" & '6" versions. I'm very interested in seeing how the 6" version would fare in these tests. I have to say I'm quite surprised how the HF Central Forge vise performed overall as I always perceived them to be borderline junk.

    • @lylewaters6161
      @lylewaters6161 2 года назад +1

      I’d also like to see the HF Doyle 6” added to the test

  • @-tyhjaarpa
    @-tyhjaarpa 2 года назад +11

    Nice comparison! Problem with cheap vises is that they use cast iron. Vise like the Heuer Front use forged steel, which is a lot stronger but comes with higher price. In Europe the model you tested sells for only 200€ and interchangeable jaws version goes for 250€. I have the interchangeable version and I love it.

  • @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
    @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 2 года назад +14

    Todd is KING regarding in depth tools, oils, adhesives,etc., testing, including dreadful torture tests that give goose bumps to manufacturers / importers. Todd's actually THE worldwide honest referent reagarding the above & my go-to shopping advisor. Not enough words to say 'Thank You' to Todd & his dedicated work in his own awsome category!!..
    🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +3

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @AmazingChinaToday
    @AmazingChinaToday 2 года назад +5

    It's disappointing how many name brand vices performance poorly. This is one of your most interesting videos yet, and very thorough testing. If manufacturers ever respond to your tests, that in itself would be an interesting video topic!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @brentfrench752
    @brentfrench752 2 года назад +6

    I’ve have a HF vice I bought over 15 years ago, and I’ll bet I didn’t pay more than $30. Never failed yet. If I replace it, I’ll definitely buy one with a pipe jaw as I could have used it many times. Great review, and you always amaze me with the various tests you come up with.

  • @CPthetooladdict
    @CPthetooladdict 2 года назад +7

    Fireball tool did a great video on vises also I always buy forged vises because (ductile) cast iron vises always fails as you proved great video!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +2

      Great feedback! Thank you

    • @BryceKimball7.3
      @BryceKimball7.3 2 года назад

      Ductile iron is not the same as cast iron. They are both cast, but one is very similar to steel in composition. All cheap vises are the bottom of the barrel cast iron, like the majority of the cheaper vises in this video. A high quality cast ductile iron vise, like a US made Wilton, older Wilton, Columbian, and most of the older high quality vises are just as strong as a forged steel vise, especially if that forged steel is Chinese.

    • @CPthetooladdict
      @CPthetooladdict 2 года назад +3

      @@BryceKimball7.3 I don't think you read my comment clearly. I stated ductile cast iron which is the bottom of the barrel and I will definitely disagree with your opinions. wilton bullet vises (ductile steel) are the fantastic, but there's several forged vises that are equally as good on the market nowadays. The weak link is majority of swivel bases. A good wilton bullet vise will cost you much more than a good forged vise and most diy people will never need anything more. Just to summarize the cheap vises usually market as ductile cast iron and they are not as good as forged wilton hardly even makes a usa made vise neither does Columbia ect. Forged or a old vise is your best option.

  • @TheMauser98a
    @TheMauser98a Год назад +5

    I picked up a Yost 460 vice a few years ago at a local pawn shop for $30. This vice is a beast and performed very well. I have only good things to say about this vice. It was old when I bought it and keeps working for me . I recommend this vice for long term reliability.

  • @allen_key
    @allen_key 2 года назад +8

    I really enjoy seeing the improvised testing tools and equipment. The depth gauge setup was nicely played and I really enjoyed the socket with the cross bolt. I was not understanding how a hex was driving them until closer inspection. The seemingly simple ones are always the most pleasing.
    Very brave to take them to failure like that and really interesting to see the differences in how they each (nearly each) failed.

  • @nexushexus4365
    @nexushexus4365 2 года назад +5

    You are a valuable member of the RUclips community. Thanks.

  • @Pcattache30
    @Pcattache30 2 года назад +28

    I really love these tests, please never stop testing equipment! This information is invaluable.
    Side note: I'm a huge fan of Harbor Freight and their tools for their value/quality proposition. They never cease to amaze.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @robertclymer6948
      @robertclymer6948 Год назад

      Agree David! Most are pretty dang good. Others not so good. But a good value for this weekend hotrod worker.

    • @briandimascio3624
      @briandimascio3624 Год назад

      I got a Doyle vise @harbor freight w the 25% off coupon 3 wks ago. (Central machinery items were excluded from the coupon). It seems to be built like a tank, ductile iron and claims 7700lbs clamp force. I would’ve loved to see how it stacks up so I can feel good or bad about my purchase too 😂

  • @michaelgasperik4319
    @michaelgasperik4319 2 года назад +7

    I've always been leery of buying the central forge vise because harbor freight doesn't have that great of a track record. It's nice to see how well it did. When I do get around to buying a vise it will probably be the central forge. Thanks for all the non-bias product testing that you do! It is very much appreciated.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @brennen7819
      @brennen7819 Год назад

      Yeah honestly I was very surprised with that price and amazing performance compared with every other vise

    • @ckmoore101
      @ckmoore101 Год назад

      As is so common with HF, a lot of things are total crap... but there are a lot of things that are very great values. The main caveat emptor, is consistency. You have a decent chance of getting a really good vise there. But, you also have a decent chance of getting one that is crap, with horrible defects that would cause it to be last in most tests.
      The thing that makes it so intriguing, is they are so cheap, that its worth the dice roll, that you might get a good one. I've been playing Harbor Freight roulette for decades.... lol. It can be fun!

  • @AlleyAutoChicago
    @AlleyAutoChicago 2 года назад +16

    Awesome tests as always! I don't feel as bad about going with the Harbor Freight vice over a Wilton 2 years ago when I needed a cheap vice in a pinch! Like others said, Doyle would be a great contender for the next test.

  • @Moonninja420
    @Moonninja420 2 года назад +7

    I love your work @Project Farm. One improvement I would have done is to secure the vices to the table before doing the drop tests on the anvil surface. It better recreates the real world conditions when the anvil would be used. Thank you.

  • @danlah1303
    @danlah1303 2 года назад +72

    Great work as always! A video on top Harbor Freight tools you've tested would be an interesting video. Maybe some filler material for a week where you are taking it easy :)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +13

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @jadenantal1652
      @jadenantal1652 2 года назад +6

      @@ProjectFarm i second the harbor freight video. Would be extremely interesting. Thanks for the vids!

    • @blizzunt420e
      @blizzunt420e 2 года назад

      He needs to do a fractal vice

    • @don1031
      @don1031 2 года назад +4

      Just to add, it would also be of interest to see the worst HF tools you have tested.

    • @GunNut37086
      @GunNut37086 2 года назад +1

      I'm usually impressed with how well the HF tools hold up, especially for the price.

  • @handlesaredumb1
    @handlesaredumb1 Год назад

    I think my favorite part is that you don't verbally bash any item you test. You just give us your test results and your opinion, then allow us to pick. For me, it's money that is very limiting so you are amazing.

  • @simonsventroschke8187
    @simonsventroschke8187 2 года назад +10

    The Brockhaus Heuer is also available WITH replacable jaws. And in different widths, of course. If is has play in the slide, it can be adjusted to 0 with the middle screw. Great vise!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Great information! What a great vise!! Thank you

  • @mms16mms16
    @mms16mms16 2 года назад +40

    Project Farm never disappoints and somehow always knows what tests I want to see before I do.
    I bought a Ktool 8” steel monster for $180 recently. It’s sloppy beyond description, but is massive and has a huge anvil which aligns well with my needs (for example I rebuilt a driveshaft and used it in bending a bunch of rebar during the past week).
    That heuer vice looks amazing… but I’d be scared of scratching a $500 vice.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @1RVDB
      @1RVDB 2 года назад +1

      They're expensive in the USA, I have an heuer 140 with replaceable jaws for around 300.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 года назад

      Definitely. He's helped me realize that sometimes getting the HF or other low-budget/low-end tool and simply modding or lubing it is a viable option.
      And he's reaffirmed my and am sure many other guys' beliefs that sending on one's needs, we're just better off buying an expensive and good high-quality tool.

    • @luckOmcduckO
      @luckOmcduckO 2 года назад

      Great video! It would be interesting if you could’ve included a vintage vice.

  • @2etheth
    @2etheth 2 года назад +17

    I would love to see how these vises stack up compared to the old models like a Wilton "bullet vise" and such. Even at the collector type prices those can fetch second-hand, I bet they perform just as well if not better than today's new offerings, making the old ones still a good value.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @jpikl1284
      @jpikl1284 Год назад +6

      Yeah, same as a new Wilton Bullet, not the cheap ones... But those are 500$+ vises... In truth the Heuer is a 200$ vise in Germany, the price in the USA is just bloated beyond reason (same as e.g. tools from PB Swiss or Wera, those are half or third of the cost in Germany). Morgan makes new made-in-USA ductile iron vises too, possibly even better than a Wilton Bullet. The Czech York (original Bullet vise manufacturer, Wilton is a bit of a rip-off) would be nice to compare too (I think regular lamellar cast iron as most on this test, but really well made and designed). Also, top end German vises like a Leinen, Schlegel EMF or a Swiss Gressel would be nice to see in the comparison. Australian Dawn vises are also extremelly well made and have an interesting offset design. Also ductile steel... And the big Heuer for a comparison (180mm version).

    • @fredfred4086
      @fredfred4086 11 месяцев назад

      @@jpikl1284 You know your vises. Dawn is very well regarded in Australia. They have regular vises as well as offset vises. It would be great to see a test of all these vises, and the Fireball Tool vise as well. Postage on all of them to Todd's workshop would be quite expensive!

  • @tomgreen1721
    @tomgreen1721 Год назад

    I bought the Heuer vise 100 based on your video. It's being sent straight from Germany. I paid 230+ shipping. This may seem high price but for a forged steel vise of such quality I think its a great price,,, thank you for helping me make my happy decision

  • @FunKingGarage
    @FunKingGarage 2 года назад +139

    Would have loved to see Harbor Freight's Doyle line of vice included as well as they are supposed to be their better line. Great work overall! Love the channel.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +23

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @getenlightened
      @getenlightened 2 года назад +14

      Doyle, and Pony too. And perhaps an older USA made Craftsman & Wilton.

    • @fusc69
      @fusc69 Год назад +2

      Add Capri to the list. (I think they make the Doyle for HF)

    • @LBCAndrew
      @LBCAndrew Год назад +6

      Those Doyle vises also cost 3x more. I just bought the Central Forge 5" for $59.00 and the 5" Doyle was $199. ouch.

    • @getenlightened
      @getenlightened Год назад +2

      @@LBCAndrew Yeah, very spendy.

  • @_B_K_
    @_B_K_ 2 года назад +7

    I've been pretty pleased with my Central Forge vise. Harbor Freight is a hit and miss and I tend not to buy too many things from them anymore, but this thing has been doing just fine.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @e.zachlee-wright9160
      @e.zachlee-wright9160 2 года назад +2

      Hello BK. You are right about HF being hit or miss. I have a 6" HF Chicago Electric Bench Grinder I purchased 26 years ago and it is still going strong. I believe I paid $29 or $39.

  • @garretthightower4413
    @garretthightower4413 2 года назад +31

    Great video as always! I know you’ve done reciprocating saw tests in the past, but have you considered testing the newer one handed “hackzall” type saws? Also testing orbital reciprocating saws would be awesome. I appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos, and I can’t wait to see what’s next in store!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +2

      Thank you for the video idea!

  • @liggerstuxin1
    @liggerstuxin1 2 месяца назад +1

    Here you are 3.3 million subs, and you’re STILL a man listening to his audience for feedback and ideas. You’re like If Consumer Reports books was unbiased and had scientific testing. You are great at coming up with ways to test, and deserve all the success you have. 🍻
    Happy to be a subscriber

  • @tnekkc
    @tnekkc 2 года назад +5

    I was breaking 6" vise from home depot after 6" vise until 17 years ago I got a 4" Columbian 504 vise at Boeing Surplus for $50 with a workbench. I have been using it every day and no problems.
    I think the difference is cast iron vs cast steel.

  • @alexglanowski695
    @alexglanowski695 2 года назад +26

    I bought 2 Wilton's at a garage sale last year for $10. Don't really care how it performs, that's a great deal 😁 Still good to know though if they break and I buy brand new

    • @Tyiriel
      @Tyiriel 2 года назад +5

      Hell those things could be made out of cotton for all i'd care at $10

    • @alexglanowski695
      @alexglanowski695 2 года назад +2

      @@Tyiriel 🤣

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 2 года назад

      Were they the bullet vises? The Wilton bullet vises are made in USA and are awesome. I inherited one from my uncle.

    • @alexglanowski695
      @alexglanowski695 2 года назад +1

      @@oldesertguy9616 Unfortunately no, but I did get one from my grandfather just before he passed away. I'm quite sure it'll outlast the garage sale ones

  • @jt9498
    @jt9498 2 года назад +5

    Just picked up a new 5" fixed vise the other day at Princess Auto, Canada's version of Harbor Freight, for $17 Cdn! It was on sale! lol The brand name is Shop Iron. Made in China. Looks exactly like the Central Forge you tested. Original price was $99, went down to $45, and finally to $17. They were blowing them out at that price! I wish there was a way to show you a picture of it, unfortunately there isn't.

  • @matthirn7858
    @matthirn7858 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you again for another thorough product evaluation. Whether viewers are seeking the best value or the most robust vise, your testing will guide them to right choice. You are an amazing product tester.

  • @billbill1797
    @billbill1797 2 года назад +4

    Your unbreakable ratchet was most impressive. Thanks for the video. Super job as always. Much appreciated.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks so much!

    • @cocodojo
      @cocodojo 2 года назад

      Maybe... Todd was "gonna test that" regarding the ratchet's unbreakability at the same time for another video?
      Also the man's never failed to impress with all the things he's tested in his videos! Just when I think "Hey, maybe its time to replace / get a " Todd's already got pretty much what I'm looking for on video already somewhere.
      Thanks for all the excellent work over the years! Saved me and many others lots of time and money to find products that work for our needs (and wallets).

  • @Uriel51
    @Uriel51 2 года назад +5

    Great video as always! One thing to note about your hammer blow test: by far the biggest factor that was not controlled for was the distance away from the jaws the blow was hitting.
    Since you are torquing the whole vice, the jaws act like the pivot point and the further away from those jaws the blow lands the more torque is applied vs the closer to the jaws it hits the force is more "backward" and directly in line with the rear jaw.
    Each vice's different jaw hight from the base was probably a much bigger factor than anything else. I.e. a short or low profile vice had a larger amount of steel cantilevered out to the point of impact. The longer the lever arm was from the jaws, the more leverage it had to torque the jaws and body.
    For example at 12:15 the Yost is really tall, so the weight is impacting only about an inch away from the jaws. A very short lever. Then at 12:29 the Ridgid is very short and weight is impacting much further from the jaws, maybe 4 or 5 inches away. The length of the lever arm is applying much more tangential torque compared to more linear impact force of the Yost.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks!

    • @jankoodziej877
      @jankoodziej877 Год назад +1

      I would argue this is still a valid test, because in real application you also cannot change the height.

    • @Ace2206
      @Ace2206 Год назад

      Good observation!

  • @RobertWCrouch
    @RobertWCrouch 2 года назад +8

    I’ve used and broken a few cheap vises and have a good idea what to avoid! As mentioned, it would be nice to test an old vise to see how it compares (but it would be sad to test to failure). Thanks again for the great custom test jigs, data points and testing standards!

  • @totaldestruction2174
    @totaldestruction2174 Год назад +1

    This is a great testing video!
    I have a Brockhaus Heuer 140 for 2 years now, it never disappointed me and it’s my favorite tool ever bought😊
    Greetings from the Netherlands

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Год назад +1

      Greetings! Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

  • @texasroots
    @texasroots 2 года назад +5

    Always enjoy your videos. A vise test definitely peaked my interest. However, when I need a vise I buy old USA. You can find old ductile steel 60k+ psi for $100. Keep up the great work. Love the tools you use to do the tests too!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks, will do!

    • @surfordie82
      @surfordie82 2 года назад +1

      100% agree, old American made units are by far the best bang for your buck for a vise.

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 2 года назад +4

    So timely, I need a good bench vise right now. Thank you very much!!

  • @randysavage8963
    @randysavage8963 2 года назад +5

    Always makes my sundays better seeing you upload . Thanks a lot Todd i appreciate your excellent testing

  • @bryco32
    @bryco32 Год назад +1

    A buddy of mine has the Yost 480 8"HD apprentice vice set up on a pedestal in his shop. He is a pretty avid collector of Big vintage vises but uses the newer Yost to beat on for his truck projects and general Vintage vise restoration duty and use. I've been pretty envious of it and the pedestal since I always seem to be scooting my workbench around with a generic 6" vice. So a few months back I scoured the scrap yard and made my own Big beefy 4x4 3/8" wall pedestal and mounted my own New Yost 480 8" vise on it. During black friday Eastwood had the same 6" HD apprentice vise you tested for $99 with free shipping and 15% off for signing up to their Email. I bought one of those as well for $89 shipped. Friggen deal of the century! I've mounted that beast on the bench in place of the generic 6" vise I had on it. I assume that'll scoot the Bench around with authority! This was a Fun Video. I look forward to more just like it.

  • @TaelsDoll
    @TaelsDoll 2 года назад +4

    dude great work on the weekly videos, you really got it down now

  • @narlycharley
    @narlycharley 2 года назад +8

    I would have liked to have seen a Fireball Tool vise and also an old school Wilton bullet vise.

    • @BryceKimball7.3
      @BryceKimball7.3 2 года назад +1

      Fireball tool has already tested their vise, it would completely destroy any of these. Not to mention, it’s a whole lot larger. Unless you’re not talking about the USA made one they’re coming out with. If you’re talking about the forged steel one, it’s just a rebranded yost vise.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the suggestions.

  • @RemStacey
    @RemStacey 2 года назад +10

    I always enjoy your tests. But this one is one of my favorites. I’ve been contemplating on getting one. Now that I know Harbor Freight has a decent one, I think I’ll be getting one from there.

    • @nasonguy
      @nasonguy 2 года назад +1

      I have one. It’s decent. Gets used but not abused and it’s holding up just fine.
      I went with HF because I don’t have any indoor work space so the thing lives outside. I couldn’t justify anything over $100 if it is eventually going to die from the elements.

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 2 года назад +1

      @@nasonguy
      Put a coat of used engine oil on it and it will survive the winter well.

    • @nasonguy
      @nasonguy 2 года назад

      @@bertgrau3934 plenty of that laying around, haha. I do actually keep it oiled, but nothing lasts forever, especially out of doors.

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 2 года назад +1

      @@nasonguy
      Yes sir, that's true, just a suggestion.
      Have a good evening sir 😊

  • @mustangman6579
    @mustangman6579 2 года назад +1

    Very underrated episode here. No one really thinks about the quality of a vice. I'm glad you did this.

  • @machooke4846
    @machooke4846 2 года назад +15

    It seemed like you scored the Rigid and Heuer low for having courser thread lead screws that gave them lower clamping force when tightened by hand - I think it is a good feature so you can insert and remove parts quickly and easily, and as long as the vise is high quality you can add plenty more clamping force with a cheater pipe.

    • @tomcardale5596
      @tomcardale5596 2 года назад +3

      I would say it's a bad feature. If you want fast clamping, just get a quick release vice then you have both the fast action and the strong clamping.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 2 года назад +1

      @@tomcardale5596
      Fast clamping... I'd take a QR vice with a coarse thread any day even if if meant tightening it with an extension.

  • @mitchellconley9338
    @mitchellconley9338 2 года назад +8

    Love this topic and would love to see a round 2! Vises are something I've always bought older made in USA stuff. I'm curious what else is even out there anymore that isn't junk.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @mxdev6387
      @mxdev6387 2 года назад +1

      @@debtminer4976 No kidding. I found a 1920's era massive 150lb Chas Parker 375 on local classified for $40. I've bought, restored and given away a few 70's era 6" Record mechanics vices that will outlast any of these.

  • @nicksboots
    @nicksboots 2 года назад +13

    Love this video! I've always wondered about cheap vs expensive vises. So thorough as always! I don't go to google or amazon for tool reviews anymore. I go here! Would love to see another boot comparison follow up to the one you did last year, but this time including $500+ dollar boots. 👍

    • @Mattars
      @Mattars 2 года назад

      I hope to buy my first pair of nicks soon! I've been really wanting the overlanders

    • @nicksboots
      @nicksboots 2 года назад +1

      @@Mattars Nice! Love it!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @anchorsaweigh9893
    @anchorsaweigh9893 23 дня назад

    I grab a central forge vise a couple years back off this video. It has held up very well for me. Thanks You!
    Arguably the best channel on RUclips! 🔥

  • @ashagon
    @ashagon 2 года назад +3

    Now I have a better idea what to get for my small workbench. Great work, thank you.

  • @93sundance
    @93sundance 2 года назад +9

    I've broken 3 vices at work and was wondering how good the Doyle brand was but the Central Forge surprised me. Great video. How about a part 2 and test some others and maybe a vintage vise?

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah 2 года назад +2

      Should definitely have had something vintage. In the UK the 'Record' brand is readily available vintage for £50 - £100 depending on size, features and condition and they'll blow away everything in this test. Irwin now owns the Record brand and makes the stuff in China. It's a cruel insult to see 'Record' stickers on the crap that Irwin sells!

    • @natethegr8230
      @natethegr8230 2 года назад +2

      I'd wager that a vintage vise outperforms based solely on the steel quality.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 2 года назад +3

      If you've broken that many vises, it might be time to stop messing around with low quality vises.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @93sundance
      @93sundance 2 года назад

      @@mediocreman2 they were installed by the shop builders I didn't buy them.

  • @franksteiner7138
    @franksteiner7138 2 года назад +16

    Seeing how you homemade your vise handle torque adapter had me giggling inside being a fabricator/welder myself. Have you ever considered making a behind the scenes video of making one of these episodes? I don’t think a lot of us people can actually wrap our heads around how much time and effort goes into making one of your videos. Between the actual testing itself and especially making all the set ups to do the testing, I think it’d be fun to see all that goes into it! Thanks!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @ilikewaffles3689
      @ilikewaffles3689 2 года назад +1

      @@ProjectFarm if you think it won't do well on this channel maybe make a second channel for stuff like this

    • @zyggiest
      @zyggiest 2 года назад

      Good content

  • @byronlabelle7569
    @byronlabelle7569 Год назад

    I'm totally enjoying watching your videos since subscribing last year. I'm a machinist by trade and retired from our local community college end of June 2022 running the machine lab. This test was very interesting and informative. Those imported vises including the ones by Yost & Wilton are similar to what the welding lab uses, because man they are rough on them. In the machining lab I ran we had genuine Wilton machinist vises but when I needed to add more I ordered genuine Yost machinist vises. They are still made here in America and cost around $200-300 less than the Wilton machinist vises, we've been using them for about 5+ years now and they are really good. We also make & mount aluminum soft jaws on all of the shop vises. The best way to be able to apply maximum torque is to not have a swivel base on the vise.

  • @jamesw4850
    @jamesw4850 2 года назад +3

    All I can say is you are my #1 source for solid and reliable information. Keep up the great work.

  • @joshthetooldude5775
    @joshthetooldude5775 2 года назад +45

    Awesome test as always! Would love to see a round 2 with the harbor freight Doyle brand included as they look to be a big upgrade from the central forge.

    • @benhobby17
      @benhobby17 2 года назад +8

      I’ve got one, and upgraded it with a thrust bearing (thanks for the idea, fireball tool) and it’s easily the best vise I’ve ever owned. Definitely second this idea.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +8

      Great suggestion! Thanks!

    • @AToolWithTools
      @AToolWithTools 2 года назад +1

      @@benhobby17 I have a Doyle, I'm interested in how this upgrade is accomplished. Did Fireball show it and I missed it?

    • @benhobby17
      @benhobby17 2 года назад

      @@AToolWithTools nope, its mostly luck that a 20x38mm thrust bearing fits almost perfectly in the handle housing. I can hang off the end of the handle and still loosen it with a finger.

  • @WilliamSlayer
    @WilliamSlayer 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for testing these vices! I bought a Central Forge vise last year and have wondered hard if it was a good purchase...your tests seem to say it certainly was!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 года назад +1

      You are welcome! Glad to hear the good news!

    • @michaellinner7772
      @michaellinner7772 2 года назад +1

      To which vices are you referring?
      Gluttony, Telling lies or perhaps sloth?

    • @francoisloriot2674
      @francoisloriot2674 Год назад

      @@michaellinner7772 I thought there was 7 of them...

  • @squarks5509
    @squarks5509 4 месяца назад

    I love the way you present information in these videos. Fast without being overwhelming. Also, genuinely helpful, I'll probably be getting an Irwin, seems a good value for the price.

  • @DaveKootchie
    @DaveKootchie 2 года назад +4

    I've had a Central Forge 4" vice for years now. That thing is rock solid and has held up great! I got it with a coupon (when those actually existed still) and it cost around $50!

  • @jordangosse9609
    @jordangosse9609 2 года назад +10

    love the videos! really wanna see you test contractor garbage bags

  • @Cre8tvMG
    @Cre8tvMG Год назад +5

    At 12:15 the vertical drop is hitting the Yost only an inch from the jaws, applying far less torque than for similar blows at 11:30 or 10:08. Unfortunately that means the Yost didn't get the same test the other vices did.
    But other than that error, it was a great test and very helpful!

    • @Christackleberry
      @Christackleberry Год назад +1

      I also wonder how much the handle length affected the clamping force readings.
      At 90 degrees, torque equals force times distance. So he was actually applying MORE torque with the longer handles, yet still getting lower clamping force.