SpaceX's Starship Version 2 to take Center Stage! Lets do this!
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Welcome to an electrifying journey through the week of space awesomeness! If you want to see where all that attention is being spent to prepare for the next Starship flight, this is certainly the place to be. Elon announced SpaceX's Starship Version 2 to take Center Stage! Lets hope the design includes tiles that stick on better, because that needs to stop. New Glenn seen in the wild, finally, but is it just a test tank? Or a real flight article? Now wait… is that what we think it is? And.. What is going on here? Those my friends are great questions so let's do this!
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BO getting sued by former employees who got fired for raising safety concerns is a little sketchy if you ask me.
Oceangate vibes
Fr? Ya got to feel bad for them at this point
@@ganymede6535 not kidding:
The former program manager of Blue Origin’s BE-4 rocket engines has filed a lawsuit against the company alleging whistleblower retaliation after he spoke up about safety issues.
The complaint was filed on Monday in the Los Angeles County Superior Court. It includes a detailed narrative about program manager Craig Stoker’s efforts over seven months to escalate his concerns about safety and a hostile work environment at Blue Origin.
Allegedly, Stoker told two VPs in May 2022 that then-CEO Bob Smith’s behavior caused employees “to frequently violate safety procedures and processes in order to meet unreasonable deadlines.” Smith would “explode” when issues would arise, generating a hostile work environment, the complaint says. Stoker sent a follow-up email to the two VPs - Linda Cova, VP of the engines business unit, and Mary Plunkett, senior VP of human resources - that included a formal complaint against Smith.
Really? That sounds a bit worrying 😕
@@TheMarcusHouse.....scammer
10:12 the fact that spacex is confident enough to put paying customers on the 17th flight of a booster is crazy. I remember when they hit 8 flights and the only flights over 3-4 were starlink
11:35 that was booster 1062 for the Starlink launch
I like how Firefly Space are keeping to the spirit of the TV series with the Miranda and Reaver engines.
Totally.
Hopefully they don’t keep too much of the spirit and get canceled early…
OMG I didn't realize, you're right, awesome!
I still miss that series, and Jericho!
Great work Marcus. You and Scott are my go-to sources.
Marcus, Scott and Tim (Dodd)
Thanks for all your great work Marcus - ending each week with your summaries 😊
some of those pictures of Ingenuity flying... hard to take in that the terrain we are looking at is actually another planet. Mars! Whoa!
I have a vague memory that Elon Musk mentioned they only built the tanks themselves because at the time they weren't able to get their hands on commercially available tanks.
So, they never wanted to build the tanks in the first place. And they probably also knew that building them vertically was a bad idea, but with the production facilities available to them, all they could do was build a Starship tank.
Never forget COVID induced supply chain problems hurt everyone and Musk has always done vertical integration even to include machinery when possible.
Spacex produces results Blue Origin produces hot air. Tell us about how you think SpaceX is failing when Blue Origin finally launches something to orbit.... ROFL
Good to see Firefly making some good progress 👍 great video Marcus 💪💪💪
@@kstaxman2 your the only one that said spacex is failing...........................................
@@kstaxman2What are you on about?? He didn't say anything of the sort.
Put some baffles in the booster tanks.
Thanks @marcushouse and congrats on breaking through the big 500k
baffles might help that sloshing problem.
Yes. I used to haul fuel. There are baffles in the tanks to make it so the fuel sloshing does not turn the whole truck over. But..weight, right? And then the baffles would need to be strong enough to endure the huge mass of fuel moving suddenly, otherwise the baffles themselves become part of the problem. But still, anything would help, even wire baffles would help slow the fuel moving in the tank.
@@JeromyBranch yeah, they just need to slow the fuel down.
@ 12:50: The fins have been seen. Lex Fridman released a photo of his visit to the Florida factory on X that shows a forward module (interstage) with an insulation-covered fin installed. Additional views of the mid module tanks have been since released by Julia Bergeron that show it just before it went completely back inside the factory and visible next to it are parts for an aft module (engine section) as well as a single landing gear.
If all that isn't enough, just this morning a photo was released by Talk of Titsuville of a complete fairing rolling on a transporter, looking like a practice run for payload integration and transport ops.
Remember when thunderfoot said that putting a flying drone on mars was a stupid idea, and there was no way it was going to work. Or when he said that reusable rockets were dumb. Or when he said that the BFR was never going to work...
I saw only one or two videos from him, and his toxicity towards his targets threw me off very quickly. So from there on, I ignored the RUclips recommendations of his videos. Sure, I read the titles, but that's it.
I only watch Thunderfoot videos when a friend repeats one of his flawed technical points. Then I have to watch the thing so I can debunk it.
If someone insists on telling me that they are convincing, they should choose at most 3 points for me to research and debunk. I don't have time to debunk entire TF videos.
I adopted the "max 3" policy after a friend told me that he was convinced that Spinlaunch's technology could never be made to work based on a TF video. Scott Manley was justifiably concerned about Spinlaunch's business case and their ability to find a launch site that could support an exclusion zone for such frequent launches. TF was mostly just confused.
@@hamjudo there have been things he was right about. Solar roadways was one. But he seems to have a personal vendetta against elon musk. Every time Musk announced something thunderfoot would make a 'busted' video. And so far musk is doing pretty good.
Who?
TFoot and CSS both have blind hatred towards certain areas (especially Elon Musk) and constantly think that they know everything. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't also have a large rapid cult of worshippers that believe everything out of their mouth. Got sick and tired of constantly seeing the random "Didn't TFoot/CSS already debunk this" even on videos showing something working that he said was impossible.
My condolences to the Escapade team. Better luck next time...
Hi Markus, just to say, thanks again for another excellent update! You do a wonderful job and I never miss a Saturday instalment! Every week I do an hour of Astronomy and Space with 10 to 13-year-olds in a local school and every Thursday your excellent videos feature at some stage in my PowerPoint presentation. They know you well at this stage, Marcus and are always delighted hear the latest from you! Thank you so much once again!
Marcus, the patch on that shirt only lasted about 4 washes until it started to come off. Our kids were hoping to wear theirs for the holiday:(
Sounds like you didn't turn your shirt inside out, and you washed it hotter than 30 °C.
@@Merigold83 I guess. We have a normal washer and all our kids clothes do just fine. But these shirts in particular, the badge comes off
this is fraudulent@TheMarcusHouse.....
Thanks again for some more amazing space news Marcus!
I think smaller tiles would allow better adhesion due to less effect from vibrations. They need to figure out the prominent harmonics then design the tiles to resiste vibrations from those harmonics via size and shape.
It was interesting watching the launch in slow motion. Pretty much all the tiles hung on, and then all of a sudden, a bunch started falling at once. I reckon there was an big vibration there somewhere, or the ship panels compressed down more than expected. Hard to say. I hope they got all that great data.
I believe they already did that.q
Marcus these videos are truly amazing, well done, unbelievable amount of work your team puts into this, we could be thinking we are watching a National Geographic video. Your team has set a high benchmark. Fantastic effort mate, Clinton from Sydney.
Saturday morning w Marcus “in the House”,,excellent!!!
Love what you do for us Marcus.
Thank you mate. Now comes the task of removing the spam from accounts pretending to be me. 🤣
Appreciate your support Joseph!
Hey Hey It's Saturday, with Marcus House! Thanks Marcus and team. Another fantastic update! Cheers, Aussie Paul!
Time to pluck a duck
Slosh simulation is amazing and very informative 😊
Thank you Marcus and greetings from Southern California
Tanks will be holding the tears of advertisers 🤣🤣🤣
Space X is very smart, sharing some data and videos on line so many, many minds can speculate, but also come across an observation, a proposal for what happened in some stages of the mission. Sharing knowledge, especially in that kind of endeavor. Peace Out!
Thank you for no click bait titles. Just good content. 😊
Thanks for another great video, Marcus 🚀
1:15
Faster fueling rate has been a concern for 60 years. A heavy lift vehicle (one that can place 300k lbs into a very low parking orbit of 100 miles for 3 orbits) can only sit on a launch pad fully fueled for 20 minutes or so in lift off status.
Increasing rate of a "fillup" is crucial to increasing launch window viability, and without the infinite coffers of the US Gov't to spend from, saving money and time now actually matter.
Not sure but putting baffles within the tanks would help out to stop the tremendous wave back lash on extreme maneuvers. Or having several smaller tanks to replace the large tanks to help control the splash effect of the fuel
I would be very surprised if they didn't already have baffles in them. 300 tonnes of fuel sloshing round in those huge, nearly empty tanks, that's ridiculous ...
@@richardconway6425
Yeah, they should probably use a smaller tank, with a bladder to keep fuel in place while doing the maneuvers.
Agreed. Baffles could potentially resolve the sloshing issue if that was indeed what lead to the prior flight failure. My guess is SpaceX is already looking into this.
Smaller tanks would significantly increase weight and plumbing complexity. While at the same time reduce the amount of fuel that can be held due to dead space between the tanks.
A plunger like a calking gun. It would be perfect for fuel transfer to another vehicle.
Awesome video as usual..
Thank you MH + Team for all your hard work this year
Thank you Marcus, another great video,
maybe down the road you could give us a walk-through of all your space related props that you stand in front of ?
And even include some affiliate links for all them as another way to support your channel, thanks again!
Marcus House is in.. the house? Bad joke, thanks for the update, looking forward to flight 3 😊
Great update! Thanks Marcus and co
Thanks for the latest update.
Great shot of New Glenn IN THE PARKING LOT. Fitting I suppose.
On that inflatable habitat test, I wonder if they test its resistance to micrometeoroid impacts. While internal overpressure seems unlikely, it is important that an impact does not lead to a large tear forming like in a popped balloon.
I recall reading that the expandable habitats have exteriors that when expanded have multiple interwoven layers similar to Kevlar that are stronger than reinforced concrete.
The Bigelow BEAM inflatable habitat was on the ISS for two years, and seemed to suffer a number of micrometeroid impacts without losing any integrity or pressure.
@@baz_astraI think that it could work like a balloon in the other way where it is a little bouncy and just bounces away any debris
@@baz_astra That's certainly good to know! I was just wondering if they include simulated impacts in the testing plan. There are contraptions that can accelerate small projectiles to the necessary speeds, after all.
@@alexeytsybyshev9459 A burst test puts magnitudes of order more stress on the envelope than a puncture test would. They're pressurizing it quite a bit higher than it will ever see in operation, so if they were to pressurize it to the operational pressure delta it would see in space and then shoot a hole in it, the stress would be minimal. Puncture tests can be replicated just as accurately by taking a piece of the material and tensioning it over a frame, then shooting it to see how it handles the damage. The envelope doesn't behave like a rubber or mylar balloon, think ripstop but with proprietary kevlar/polymers instead. There's a reason why these envelopes burst into tiny fragments when they fail...it's because they don't propagate tears like rubber balloons and all of that strength holds until the entire skin reaches a breaking point all at once. It's better to simply not think of it like a balloon at all when visualizing its robustness because it doesn't behave like any balloon that you've seen before.
I love seeing ingenuity succeed. Its always the ones you least expect that make the biggest impact
Thank you Marcus... I always get loads from you weekly round up. Brilliant indeed!
Great as usual!
Hey Marcus, everyone is talking about the second tower, but no one is saying the obvious. I think they would use one for launch, the other for landing. They won't bother installing all the launch hardware on the second one, only enough to catch, so all the expensive hardware doesn't go up in flames if first landings don't go well.
i would imagine thats the plan till they get it down cant wait to see the first failure KABOOM if they get it right thought that will be just as awesome.
Strength to carry on despite the odds means you have faith in your own abilities and know how
Great animation with the fuel tank slosh. The reported negative accelleration that prompted the slosh was caused by the intense impingment of the Starship plume on the top lid of the Booster. My impression was that that intense impingement was only for a couple of seconds, during which the three central booster engines kept firing continuously. So, I'm wondering if the duration of absence of booster acceleration shown in the animation was longer than it really was.
Always love your vidoes Marcus.
Thanks!
Great video, I just love the progress the space industry is achieving. 🙂👍
Marcus. I really do look forward to you next video. CHEERS
Thanks Marcus H..
Thanks Marcus!
Great video, thank you!
Congratulations Marcus and Team for reaching 500k subscribers!
Another amazing video Marcus. Enjoying seeing you and your channel grow! 🌳
Go Team Space! Great update Marcus 👍
GreT job catching us up on recent events and developments. 😎
The epitome of awesomeness.
Thanks for Version 2 and not V2 👍
Thank your Mr. HOUSE
Excellent stuff bro
Ridiculously exciteing!!!
Good Job Marcus!! Gracias por los subtítulos en español.❤
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Thanks for the gift of your positive vibe Marcus! Merry Christmas.
Thank you very much for your support. Very awesome of you!
@@MarcusHouseso as for "slosh" I think the correct question to pose is "why no slosh problem on launch 1 if there be slosh problem on launch 2?" other than that spot on summary. As for system integration work as hinted at with all of the "knowledge base" needed by subscribing to Brilliant the most important not mentioned is "statistical theory" and how anomalies are explained as deviations from the mean of which now SpaceX has two anomalies in the form of two failed Starship mission sets though both succeeded in launching and in performing separation events critically. Next to SpaceX I still think New Zealand based Rocket Lab is the most important as only Western Australia has built out the "fueling infrastructure" similar to what is already extant upon Gulf Coast Texas. This moves us beyond the introductory knowledge base to that which is effected and thus deemed practicable. Space Launch is critical to both the US and Australia New Zealand economies because of how critical pipeline natural gas infrastructure and systems are to both economies respectively. By launching rockets these massive engineering systems are "validated" by using the most extreme measures known and test to and beyond expectations of both breaking and destruction. I don't know of any space launch facilities planned for Southeast Asia but given all that has been gained so far certainly exploring this as an alternative to the still near almost en toto nationalistic approaches to this effort would be yet another "small step for man giant leap for mankind" and like returning to the Moon probably whilst this will never happen..
Thanks Marcus, great update - thanks for highlighting eirsat-1 - a humble space-start for my home nation. Eamon
thank you for my sat morning indulgence.
Hooray For Starship:)
I'm imagining layered walls made of grid fins, alternating the direction of the exhaust blast to protect those tanks 😁
To be 100% honest I’m surprised they’re not using a Tesla semi to deliver them just like they use the cyber truck to deliver a raptor
Not enough electric vehicle charging infrastructure yet.
Styrofoam products are all they can transport.
@@TheMoneypresident I think that Pepsi transports more than styrofoam with their Tesla Semis.
@davidstevenson9517 if a pallet of Pepsi shifts and dangerous to be quickly unloaded. Two temp workers are called in with a 4 hour minimum. Once it took me 30 seconds to hip bump it perfectly. Made a video Sweating to the Pepsi.
I wonder if the new metal press is the key to Starship 2 improvements. They could stamp larger stringers with additional bend geometries and complex shapes to add strength and reduce weight.
It looks like you watched MKBHD Cybertruck Video 😁
One possible use of course. I'm not sure how well mega press technology (1) works with stainless steel though. In that case if large numbers of stringers and rib sections are needed then regular convention stamping technology might work better. The critical point there is the technique used to join them togetherer.
1) It is my understanding that the Mega Press technology allows the diecasting of large one piece structural elements.
@@mpetersen6 The Tesla Gigapresses are indeed for injection casting the front and rear castings of the Model Y and the Cybertruck. Aluminum is injected in just milliseconds. They haven't tried to do anything like that with steel. On to the stainless steel: At one of the interviews for the Cybertruck deliveries one of the Cybertruck engineers talked about how stainless steel that that thick can't be stamped. To even bend it that sharply without stressing that crease they needed to invent a new machine.
Tesla developed their own stainless steel alloy to withstand that. Total speculation: that alloy will be used to make better stringers, etc, for Starship. Tesla and SpaceX do share their top metallurgists.
These detailed fantasy droolings are so entertaining. The MuskCult™ is just the Bush War Cult, instead of "6 more months until victory in Iraq" it's "orders of magnitude" and posts like this one above.
Great work!!!
Congratulations on 500,000 @marcushouse! 🍾🎊🎉🥳🙌
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I'd buy one of those t-shirts if someone could put the date the right way round.
Hear, hear !
Bit odd to come from Marcus, but his main market for the shirts is for those.....
So glad to see the expandable module project being continued by Sierra space and thanks for the coverage Marcus
Hey hey!
Great video Marcus
Great video Marcus...😁
Loved this episode.
Working in maintenance and repair, you would be surprised how much time is given simply in consideration of the people working around you not in maintenance and repair. If you can simply shut down a section at the drop of a hat, thing can immediately go so much quicker.
A week to set up an entire tank farm under those circumstances when the foundation is already there, or setting up massive precast wall is simple.
Congratulations on 500k 🎉
I really appreciate this channel Marcus. Before I started watching it, I used to find it really difficult to make sense of what was happening at SpaceX, and just keep up with their crazy development cycle. Now, I feel really informed and up to date, just from watching your video every week. Thank you!! 🚀
Nice work SpaceX.
We do love what you do
Thanks for the updates! Just thought about this again the other day: Insane how routine Falcon 9 has become. I still remember the time before the first landings, when every SpaceX launch was nail-bitingly exciting and terrifying. Now, SpaceX is established as the market leader. Betting against SpaceX (and Elon Musk) was always a terrible idea, and I think that's gonna hold true for Starship as well. It might take a while for Starship to find the same streak of success as Falcon, but when it does happen, it will once again transform the space flight and exploration industry.
Fully Sick 🤙🏽
It would seem to me that putting a roof over the horizontal tanks would be beneficial. It would protect them from object falling on them and also provide shade from the sun and a degree of insulation to help keep the liquids cold.
I was thinking about a tall wedge wall structure in front of the vertical tanks that would deflect the force of the blast around the tanks
@@BradiKal61they already have smaller sort of system like that. I think a roof would be better, because it would protect the tanks from falling debris and dust, and, as @asawhite2220 said, heat from the sun
" car park" sounds so cute. :)
great weekly rap up as always marcus. also congrats on your 500k subscribers
great vid really enjoyed the content...peace out
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505K subs, Congrats Marcus
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Marcus. Thanks for the Irish satellite plug. Keep up the good work. Love the content.
Hey Hey, it must be Saturday
Marcus ROCKS!!
Why thank you! Sorry for the delay. I missed this one at the time for some reason.
"to take Center Stage", oh Marcus, ba dum chi! :)
Nicely played :)
amazing video keep it up Marcus when do you think oft-3 will launch
8:03 seems like they just need to add a baffle with basic flapper valves like F/A-18 classic Hornet does in its fuel tank to allow short duration inverted flight without flaming out the engines.
Simple design is good, but dealing with a 22 ton liquid fuel hammer is a real challenge as the history of rockets shows.
Great video, Marcus! I sure hope that New Glenn will launch on schedule. We need multiple rockets to insure our space future.
Ingenuity should have its own Disney Movie!
eventually the starship v2 will be shown but the improvement might be around 1.3 or 2.1 times better
You may find that your T-shirt with the date may have more appeal if the date were in a sensible format. If you look at "Date format by country" on Wikipedia, you will see how many counties use the MDY and it is not many. The most popular format is DMY.
Being Australian, your country uses DMY or YMD, but not MDY so why do you do it?
The Wikipedia page says that English speaking Canadians use MDY, but everyone I know uses DMY. I like Wikipedia, but I wouldn't take that chart at face value.
Woohoo 505K lets goooooo. :~)
5:17 Missing an "E"! 😄