r/maliciouscompliance | "NEW Boss STEALS My Hard Hat" (A Malicious Compliance Story)
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*Boss:* RADAR has nothing to do with Radio.
*Me, who knows what the acronym means:* _(heavy breathing)_
It uses moonbeams and dolphins, right?
@@fugitiveunknown7806 No, no, no... fricking lasers mounted on sharks.
Funny... RADAR has everything to do with radio. It was noticed that some of the transmitted radio radiation from inbound aircraft would bounce back to the sender. This was the beginning of radar. Started off as 2d, distance only if you like.
EGRJ what does it mean? :3
It's GOT to be one of them foreign things, what they tolk about in the microwave ovens user handbooks... I fink.
Look, I know in places like the military respect is supposed to be given to your superiors, but I have one solid rule for interacting with my bosses: if you *demand* my respect, you aren’t worthy of it.
I was lucky (?) I'm my career that I got "black-holed" at my second duty location with an absolutely amazing command staff and NCO group. Our Chief (E-9 in the Air Force) was a down to earth guy who would take time out of his day to make sure the junior enlisted were being properly utilized, trained and taken care of. The officers were even better (the base commander personally spoke with EVERY soldier under his command at least once a year, and was genuinely concerned with the personal and professional well being of each and every one of them. A custom he started, and one I am happy to say each successive commander kept). While a degree of respect is expected in the military (at least for the rank) each and every officer I worked with or for had earned my respect on a personal level. There are several that to this day I salute (even though I and most of them have moved on to civilian life) as a sign or respect.
Mant in the militsry have learned through experience that doing whay you're instead of arguing isn't respect as we commonly know, its just following orders. The military is rife with malicious compliance, because arguing and being right are the surest way to get yourself in trouble. Thats why things like leave and approvals should always be taken in writing. Some alsohole you had a disagreement with years ago is likely to say "i never said that," and everything rests on you.
A friend of mine made it to staff sergeant a few years back and was put under a guy from an old unit they were both in. Well his super did everything to make his numbers look good, while screwing everyone under him, including denying promotions and transfers, just so he could keep the best people for himself, instead of making them miserable and wanting to leave. My friend filed a few complaints knowing that if he pushed hard enough he could get the guy taken off command, but the cost would be that my friend would never see any further advancement in that branch. The term "team player" carries many connotations, but in the military its used as a vauge coersive threat more than anything, that can tank your career.
Amen to that
ShinigamiSparda
It’s why most Sergeants are respected more than Lieutenants. The latter are usually college boys and the former earned their promotions
@@justicedunham4088 While I agree with you on the whole, there are more than a few NCOs that are simply incompetent relative to the Officers around them. It is even worse when BOTH the OIC and NCOIC are idiots, like with my platoon in Germany, and the officers and NCOs above them have to keep fixing their mistakes, but can't seem to get replacements for them. It really drives down unit morale.
In the last one I was expecting the conversation to be this
Boss: don't argue with me I have been here for 4 years
OP: I have been doing this for over 10 years
so you watch albert too.
@@Giga_Yahweh duh
@@Giga_Yahweh Albert? Please, what show is that?
@@Liawino albert is flamingo, a roblox youtuber.
The reason these bosses aren't fired is simple. If they are fired it means that whoever appointed them made a mistake. And that is someone in a higher echelon. Who doesn't want to look bad. So instead the boss is promoted away instead of being fired.
So in the US military, promotion is based on a board of people who look at someone and look at an open billet and pick someone to fill that billet. Usually the actual oral interview is like 5 - 20 minutes depending on circumstances. My promotion to E-4 using Under the Zone was extensive as hell but I got the billet since I had the skills for the job needed and my CO personally wrote me a letter of rec and I think he was the one who had to suggest it as well.
In the US military, that shit never falls back on the promotion board. It's held to that person and MAYBE their supervisor / CO. You're Sarge or LT could sure as shit look stupid as fuck but the blame will get passed to you very quickly.
Once you get to high enough level you fail upwards. You also get a free shiny gold parachute just in case you fall.
Look up the Peter Principle
"How are the still employed?"
Explanation of how the military functions:
If you are an NCO (non commissioned officer, boss, SGT and up) and you commit to this sort of act of stupidity (which happens more often than you think) more than once, or one time that was REALLY, REALLY bad, you will be taken off the Fast Track and placed into an admin position where you can stare at a fucking wall all day until you are inevitably barred from reenlistment, or given the option to fill a high body count required role (cook, fueler, etc;). If you are a CO (lieutenant and up, officer, "supervisor") and you have a fuck up of this nature, you will also likely be placed under a microscope for review, possibly taken off the fast track, or just out right removed from service for being grossly incompetent. Unlike NCO's who must complete their term or be chaptered for multiple fuck ups, CO's can be fired.
How can they not get fired? It's the military.
You also might want to check a blast from the past called the Peter Principle. Basically it posits that people get promoted to the point just beyond their level of competence, snd then get shuttled sideways - spreading the idiocy.
I retired from the Air Force as an E6 (Tech Sergeant). I hated the supervisory role. I was much happier as a radar operator/maintainer.
@@ThomasKent1346 - I left the Army as an E5 Sergeant after 8 years of service, and while I felt I was OK as a supervisor in the communications electronics job I was in, like you I didn't like it. But before retraining as an electronics tech, I was in the infantry. I knew what I doing, shooting at things and so on (expert rifleman here), but recognized that with my temperament I wouldn't make a good combat leader, so that's why I moved over to a more peaceful occupation. In short, I didn't want to get hit by the Peter Principle that @LeslieJohnson mentioned, because it could conceivably have gotten me and other killed.
maybe more a case of the Dilbert principle
Is it possible to refuse a promotion?
@Leslie Johnson
I would broaden that to include any government job. In the US at least, it can be ridiculously hard to fire a Federal or state employee, even for cause.
@Sam .Bucktooth
You can, but that's usually the end of your career.
When I was in the Air Force, I was manning somewhat similar position to the OP. Unlike his misfortune, my Commanding Officers were in the mindset that while they outrank everyone there, they can not know every single detail, so, if there was uncertainty in the procedures or a risk needed to be taken, they will consider the options presented by us, extremely rarely the option chosen was not from what us underlings proposed, and even then it was (briefly) given reasoning for options denial.
One of the less experienced commanders we had has had a saying he wasn't embarrassed or too pompous to say "I do not know the proper procedure, but I do know of an underling that would be able to guide you." and amazingly it was said both up and down the command chain.
I have been serving in an amazing place :)
sounds like you have officers who were bright enough to learn the best way to succeed in the missons and had a good chief early in their careers :)
That's the best way to earn respect. Demanding it usually gets anyone under you hating you. But earning it by giving it gets you a lot more than respect. It gets loyalty and trust and help when needed.
In the military, you can not just be "fired" unless they break a serious law, even demoting them is tricky as you pretty much have to convince someone that they are derelict or grossly incompetent. One or two instances is rarely enough. (Though the multimillion dollar bill will push them really close)
You can be posted though 😜
It's often the same in large private sector organizations. no one documents the day to day stupidity and so when they REALLY screw up it looks like an anomaly and they get another chance.
These people are lucky it takes so much to be Dishonorably Discharged
I had an E7 supervisor that was exactly like this boss. A moron. He ended up being sent back to the states because of some of the things he did. (After being told he was wrong and not do that...he did anyway.)
As a radio tech and enthusiast, I love his radar explanation.
It is still one of my favorite ways I've heard some tech being explained in simplified concepts to this day.
Ever notice that work often goes quicker and easier when bosses aren't around?
Bad bosses yes, good bosses no.
Also, changes in management are almost never good.
Why I get excited in the cabinet shop I work at when the boss is away and also why I try to stay out of other areas in my department unless they're asking for help
I worked in a shop that was split into two separate departments. Each side had their own workers and chain of command bosses. There was some crossover, especially on the unskilled labor side, but I was a welder so I always worked on just my own side.
The head boss from the other side asked to barrow my angle grinder one day and as I wasn't using it at the time I said sure.
Now, this grinder was my own, personal grinder. It was much better quality than the shop grinders and was green, not yellow. It also had my name printed on it rather than the "Property of (company) label all the shop tools had.
*ALL* of the welders in this shop had their own tools and equipment because the shop tools were cheap and only used by the unskilled labors, so there was no way this boss should have assumed it was not my personal grinder.
Every shop I have ever worked in has had the rule, "You borrow a tool, you return it. And you *NEVER* loan it to others"
After about 10 minutes I got to the point I needed the grinder. I went looking for it and found one of the labors using it. I got it back without a hassle. I had loaned tools to this guy before and he always brought them back and took care of them. But he had just found the grinder there and started using it, not noticing it was not a shop grinder.
Now, my personal rule is, I'm happy to loan a tool, but if you break the tool borrowing rules, you can't borrow my tools any more.
A few days later the guy wants to borrow another tool. When I told him "no" he pointed out that I wasn't using it. I told him it was my tool and he was no longer allowed to borrow my tools.
He wasn't happy about that, but there was nothing he could do about it. He wasn't my boss, and my boss took my side.
I got him back though. A few weeks later he punched me in the face for no reason, so hard that he split my lip open and I needed 3 stitches.
I knew it was a pure accident. I just happened to walk by as he gestured talking on the phone and my face and his hand collided. I did say it was for no reason.
The guy was a real jerk and I could have used this to not only get him fired, but possibly arrested as well. In fact, his boss was about to fire him when I said it was an accident and described how it happened. That was the only thing that saved his job.
How is this getting back at someone who has wronged you? Well, first off, I'm an honest person. Him hitting me *WAS* an accident, no matter how much it hurt. And I think doing something kind for someone who has wronged you is a much better form of revenge. Their own conscience will tear them up for it, and you can maintain the moral high ground.
It is a great feeling to have someone apologize, saying they felt terrible for doing something mean to someone so kind they would save your job even after they have been a dick.
I don't think it's the limiter, it has to be the flux capacitor.
Funniest comment! ROFL!
Ya gotta make sure it's calibrated for 1.21 jigawatts or else it won't work.
Needs more newspapers
And THAT'S the military in a nutshell.
LOL, not always. I spent 8 years in the US Army, and while one does run into idiots-in-charge sometimes, it's not as bad as all that. I do have some stories however. I think it's about the same as civilian idiots-in-charge.
It does vary - many decades ago I went to what had been an exclusively military college but which was taking a number of 'civvies' like me as part of a transition to public sector. Some of the officers had been to Welbeck (army's private school) then straight to Sandhurst, then straight to college - almost zero contact with the real world. Others from other backgrounds were really savvy.
Actually its six or two threes, just like in civvy street. I spent 22 years in the British army and had some fantastic bosses, some meh bosses and some absolute cunts. You just play the hand you're dealt.
I had an idiot officer who ordered us to salute him when we were deployed.
Ahh gotta love the US military, where an officer can blow up a quarter million dollars of electronics through sheer incompetence and nobody says anything, but if an enlisted guy forgets to shine his shoes he's getting torn a new one.
I believe this was the Canadian military. Trenton is a huge air base and Mcpl is a Canadian specific rank. So, Canada has officers just as dense as anyone else.
I had to laugh at that one. I had an infantry company commander once who made it a special project to give me problems because I didn't consider spit-shined combat boots to be my top priority. He really pissed off the First Sergeant, too, because that kind of thing is the First Sergeant's bailiwick, and the FS didn't actually think the matter all that important. To be fair, the company commander was actually a good tactical combat commander (from my observation), but in garrison he didn't seem to know what he was doing. He left the Army eventually because he pissed off his battalion commander by being somewhat less than respectful in a critical moment, and earned himself a poor evaluation score. Sad in a way, because if we had gone to war he would have done a good job.
I never got the shiny shoes thing. Why is that important in the first place? It seems like a silly thing to worry about when the army has many more important things to worry about.
The "schizophrenic radio constantly screaming 'WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?'" line killed me.
I enjoyed these. It never ceases to amaze me how those in charge always think they know more than their subordinates, because of their titles and whatnot, only to find out that sometimes they don't. It not always about titles or years of service but actual experience.
Army stories brings back memories. Several years ago, I had an incident with a female Acting Sergeant. An Acting Sergeant is somebody whose rank is really SP4 (E4) but doing the job of SGT(E5).
Now I will admit that I was in the wrong first, it was cold outside (winter) and I put my hands in my pocket. She caught me and told me to take my hands out my pocket, I said sorry and removed my hands from my pockets.
However, about 20 minutes later she caught me again. Now the first time she told me in a normal voice to remove my hands, but this time she got uppity. She yelled saying: "I told you to take your hands out your pocket, what are doing playing pocket pool?
Now "Pocket Pool" for those that don't know is Jerking Off.
So since she asked a question I answered her. I told her: "No, I'm playing elevator."
Then she asked what elevator was.
I then said: "Elevator is up now, do you want to go down on it?"
Man this woman turned red as hell in the face, I could almost see the steam coming from her ears ( it didn't help that the other people started laughing). As she ran to my SSG (E6), complaining I told her to suck my dick.
SSG was upset, but I truthfully told him those words never came out my mouth. And the rest of the squad backed me up.
P.S. She wasn't Acting Sergeant for long after that. Because she didn't know how to talk people and get them to do what needed to be done.
You don't get fired in the military for incompetence... you just get promoted.
Lmao ikr so true
yep promote then into places they can do the least harm....
I’ve been a boss. I always tried to hire people smarter than me in their skill set, then leave them alone to makes us all look good and succeed.
That’s a winning strategy.
How don't they get fired? Because they lie and blame the person who knows what they are doing and their bosses are imbeciles that fall for it. Happened to me with my manager. I got chewed up by her boss, who believed her, so I called our client, who knew me and was "impressed with my good work", who chewed up her boss, because I quit on the spot, after calling the client again and telling him that "I can not stand it any longer". My boss was then fired, after they asked me for an update on where the project stood. I said "sorry, I already quit, I don't work here." (She had no idea what was going on, too stupid.) I filed a complaint with human resources and the client, who demanded they give a large severance pay and medical coverage until the end of the year, which they did. After getting fired, she could not get a job. Malicious compliance is wonderful.
Spent 6 years in the military, what the hell is a master corporal? I was a corporal!
Charles Eagan there was one point in the stories were the guy said he was stationed in Ontario. All three stories are from the same person so it’s most likely Canadian military? Not everyone has the same rank structure for their military. Even the different branches of the US military have differences in their rank structure.
@@TownieFormal my dad was a mcpl he was air force and yes it is Canadian military. that and i used to live in trenton where this guy was stationed....
in a province far far away... once upon a time.... many many moons ago....
like in 89/90 you know 30 years ago its been a while
and yes according to this story its the early 2000s and we are still using 40 year old outdated and obsolete tech
sadly it doesn't surprise me at all to hear that
The military mind (?oxymoron?) aside; most bosses don't get fired over serious cock ups because they quietly pass the blame down to their underlings/subordinates.
Have you heard about the Peter Principal? It states that the person will rise to their highest level of incompetency.
When the supervisor made the comment that RADAR has nothing to do with radios, I knew what was coming as I know RADAR has to do with radio waves just as the poster said. I just closed my eyes in shock at that point.
There are sixth graders who know what RADAR stands for.
Storytime you really don't understand government do you. In government the more incompetent you are the higher rank you get in the government. Look at the prime minister of Canada as an example. The prime minister brought an assassin convicted of an attempted assassination of an Indian ambassador to India on an official government visit.
The real reason is because many governments are run just like many companies. The more confident you are and the more presence you exude, the higher up the chain you can climb. People value someone who can "get things done" in a blink of an eye more than someone who can get things done right, albeit slower. It is also a little bit of a popularity contest like in school. So the aggressive nature of people who are confident and bring that comportment to bear in the right direction often results in promotions. The quiet guy sitting in the corner doing things slow, calculated, and safe is often passed up or left unrecognized due to their more focused nature. Social networking is important, because getting a job and succeeding in a job is more often about who you know, and not what you know.
My dad teaches soldiers how to repair radars and such and even he has dumb people at his job. His boss recently asked him and other coworkers to wear hard hats when they are outside teaching (I think it was last year) and my dad bought a Harley Davidson hard hat because his bosses were not going to supply the hard hats. My dad still has his HD hard hat. I only wish he could tell me more about his work so I might be able to post some stories of my own.
The military will eject someone for ethics violations (ethics per military code). It rarely ejects someone for incompetence. One example of this: few ship captains are ejected for running a ship aground. Their careers are effectively over, so they retire, thus with pension and benefits. But they are rarely ejected, unless an aforementioned ethics violation is found.
How are the bosses not getting fired for their stupidity? Ever hear that saying, "Stupidity pays"?
The bosses didn't fired because this was a military installation. Members of the military cannot be fired
Sure they can. It just takes more than merely being energetic and stupid.
Like Bergman said. My brother was in the USAF and he told me about a case where an emergency barrier system on an airbase had not been properly maintained by the Tech Sgt responsible for it (it was totally neglected, in fact, because the Sgt went ROAD -- Retired On Active Duty), and this resulted in a landing accident, nearly killing an aircrew and destroying an aircraft. The Tech Sgt got courtmartialed, demoted to the lowest rank, spent five years in military prison and got a less-than-honorable discharge. If you get "fired" from the military it's rather more serious than in civilian life.
You should meet some of my former “seniors”-it’s not a problem with not knowing things, it’s the bloody arrogance they have and their unwillingness to learn. It was exhausting working with those types of people.
Don't have to worry about people stealing your hardhat if you just never wear one
I used to *Always* wear a brown hardhat... if anyone asked, I told them it was because I was a "Sh-thead" and pissing me off was at their own risk... LOL
Army here. We had a Chief (WO3) in a motorpool once. He snapped off a glow plug in a humvee Engine and tried to blame it on a private. Then after forcing the Motor Sergeant to do a write up and try to UCMJ the soldier REFUSED to let him see Legal about it. Suffice to say he was removed from the Motorpool about 2 weeks later after NUMEROUS complaints and one near Mutiny.
The reason these people don't get fired is simple:
They don't tell their boss it was their decision....
First thing I learned in my officers courses (German Airforce) is to "Never mess with your NCO corps. An officer is nothing without the support of his NCOs"
Have run pretty well by adhering to this principle. You obviously still keep your authority, but as long as you treat them fairly they will return the favor.
plus you still get all the credit for work well done just acknowledge it to your crews once in awhile and you will never fail...
Storytime: P O T
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just died... dude, it's "pot" as in potentiometer, not "p o t"
They aren’t getting fired because they are military bosses. They will probably only get transferred to be somebody else’s problem.
I was a radar tech in the U.S. Air Force and have tons of similar stories to the last couple. Why don't the incompetent bosses get fired? Well I have gotten it done...once..only after a couple years, much documentation and in the one case millions of dollars worth of fried equipment. But what the hell I was only a Sargent...with a degree in Electrical Engineering. Took three years to get my commission after finishing that degree.
Those theodolites are seriously huge. I used to work on a base with similar units (was civil service), and I had an opportunity to interview with the group that maintained them, and all the local telemetry RADARs.
Messing with the loop tuning on a position controller for one of those willy-nilly is a very good way of breaking something very expensive. I'm surprised it only toasted the synchro-servo transformer.
That first one is great. Pray the dude got some form of reprimand at some point.
New boss sounds hard headed.
@Kevin McDougall r/whooosh
pretty much required to be a Master corporal that and lose your listening skills...
I was a radar tech in the US Air Force. The oldest radar I worked on was the SCR-584. This radar was built during WW2! The letters SCR stood for Signal Corp Radio. We gave many of them to Russia during WW2 under the Lend-Lease program.
In the military if someone makes NCO then they are assumed to have 100 more IQ points for each rank. A true leader is one who listens to those more experienced than them, even if it's just that area.
To clarify rank vs authority: On a worksite in the Army Corp of Engineers (Essayons), the white hardhat supersedes rank for the purpose of completing the job. Competent commanders will hand it off to guys who are eligible for promotion to see them handle the responsibility. Also in some reserve units you'll have lower enlisted who have trade skills from their civilian job that far surpass their superiors. I had a PFC in one unit who was a Master Electrician on the outside. Our Platoon Leader always gave him the white hat.
"They say that in the army,
On the MC techs you can rely
But they'll set the base on fire
When staff maliciously comply"
(Does anyone still know that song?)
Yep
From M*A*S*H
M*A*S*H taught a whole new generation (or two) that one; "Iiiiiiiiiiiii don't want no more of Army life; gee, Mom, I wanna go home!"
We got it in school in the 80's since it was originally a Canadian song (if I remember correctly).
Knew it from going through JROTC in Leavenworth 75-76.
If I was working with a boss like that with very expensive taxpayer paid equipment. I would document and report it immediately to whoever is five steps above him. In the best case it's just an idiot trying to look good. In the worse case it's a collaborator trying to harm and or delay and undermine the military. In either case it's still someone waisting public money.
First of all, this requires a six-month course in maintenance before you're allowed to even touch these systems (Gilfillan's finest product ever - for ancient radar systems) and you don't just walk up and start maintenance using a book!
The sad part is, bosses today only care about 2 things: Profts and / or making their employees lives a misery.
Remember the good old days when bosses were knowledgable? Well, they are worse than their more knowledgable employees nowadays
These 'bosses' are employed because they're military. All they can do is reprimand them, fine/garnish them, demote them, and jail time/hard labor based on severity of their fuck ups. It's possible to get discharged, but it doesn't happen often
This is what happens when you really know your stuff in your job. Usually people don't actually know what they're doing. They just wing it and hope for the best. They don't care too much since it's just work. However when it comes to their pride, they have to be in charge and tell others what to do, even if they don't know what they're even doing. They want you to do what they tell you to do. You know it's wrong, but you have to.
RE: the first part of the story. A shear is a machine that cuts metal. Ka-chunk! We (military unit) had acquired one that could cut 5/8 inch steel 10 feet wide. Big, heavy. Really heavy. Narrow base, front to back, like 2 feet. We had it lifted off the trailer with a really big forklift. Then the big (civilian) boss shows up. Under his direction the thing tipped forward and fell off the forklift. Recall the narrow base? Call it a contributing factor. The thing is so heavy the asphalt cushioned the fall. Like 1 foot into and through the asphalt. We got a 5 axle commercial crane to come, turn it right side up, then carry it the building where it was to be installed, and set it as far inside as possible. Then the crane operator tells us they get called 3 or 4 times a year to right a shear. “People don’t know how top heavy these things are.” True! Especially senior civilians.
Some bosses are even more like Teflon than Teflon ever was...
1400 kg is nowhere near 90,000 lbs.
1400 kg x 2.2 = 3,080 lbs. and not even close to 90,000 lbs.
At least get some kind of math skills first.
Your joke / sarcasm meter is broken....
Sadly the military either leaves the ID-10-T’s in place or once the screw up enough moves them to a place where they supposedly can’t screw but they find some way too. Sometimes they get demoted if the screw up is bad enough but it doesn’t last long as they can quickly start up the ranks again to make more people’s lives miserable.
The only way to fire them is to make sure their contract isn’t renewed.
In the military, the punishment goes like this: Supervisor (e.g.: idiot, complete jerk, rapist even), gets promoted out of position; subordinate gets severely punished, demoted, and potentially (in the case of a rape victim of supervisor), kicked out of the service.
People with rank in the military can fuck up so bad, with very little repercussions.
My cousin was telling me that when he served during the Korean War, some big brass was showing off a loaded bomber to some VIP.
For whatever reason, he unplugged the controller that made the mounts open to actually drop the wing mounted bombs and failed to plug it back in.
Bomber goes out, bombs fail to drop, so they’re disarmed and it comes back in. When it landed, the bombs rattle loose from the mounts which had apparently unlocked, but just not opened, and ordinance goes tumbling down the runway. 🤦♂️
Mr. Jake, they are still employed because it is taxpayer money. Who cares about a quarter million dollars when you're $22 trillion in debt.
I dunno about othernplaces but here we have little organization called OSHA. If they catch you without a helmet or safety gear not only you but the company you work for can get in big trouble. They are not to be fussed with at all.
The story didn't say he went without a helmet, it says he had to switch to a worker-bee helmet. And Canada has its own version of OSHA that makes the US OSHA look lazy and complacent.
The reason most of these bosses don't get fired is mostly of contracts and it's not what you know it's who you know. Even if the people under them saved the day their bosses take the credit or it is good on them fir hiring them. Then the boss gets a raise and the guy that saved the day gets a pat on the back and a gift card to somewhere that he/she won't use or doesn't go. That's the world we live in.
They are employed because they are officers in the Military so they really only could be reassigned, though since they are on the ground the would just list the damages as being valid repairs and no one is the wiser unless they got audited.
At least in a couple of examples, his supervisor was an NCO. "Master Corporal" was mentioned.
MCpl is a NCM (non-commissioned member)
@@neverwey123 Thanks for clarification.
The military doesn't fire anyone they've invested time in unless they're under scrutiny.... they promote them instead.
During the late 1960s I was a Marine Corps Avionics tech. I was a great aircraft tech but be the first to admit I was a pretty lousy Marine. This was fine during my two tours in Vietnam but stateside between tours I was assigned to a Marine reserve squadron. The Sargent Major was a grunt who though the Air Wing was just like the ground ponders. In fairness to him I'm sure some level of culture shock was involved but sufficed to say I did not do well. Decided another Vietnam tour was better for my sanity then a year at this reserve base.
The contrast between the enlisted folks who thanked their lucky stars they were assigned a reserve base vs those of us coming back from Vietnam was pretty stark. I think the record transfer time for ex-Vietnam enlisted was 2 hours, he put in for a transfer the day he arrived. I lasted about 8-months.
Except this episode, that was more of a personalty clash then about competency, I mainly enjoyed working with the officers and enlisted I interacted with. Agree with the other posts, respect must be earned.
The reason these bosses don't get fired is because their bosses ask them what went wrong. They can just make up a story about it being technical problems, or the lower employees making a mistake. It's not like they are going to admit that it's all their faulty leadership's fault.
Military. You don't get fired for being inept you get promoted.
lol. thats the funniest description of a radar I've ever heard. gonna have to save that one.
Because you don't get fired from the military
These bosses are still employed because it is the military. You can be demoted, fined, put in prison but basically they own you like a slave until your time is up. Don't get me wrong, I am a veteran married to a veteran and come from a military family. But they say jump, you say how high on the way up. And if you are wrong when disputing a superior he or she can get any of the aforementioned thing done to you. If you are right you can still be disciplined for disrespect. Or depending on how high your rank or how hard you pushed, conduct unbecoming.
How the hell this idiot boss wasn't fired, I will never know.
Military.
I admit I love it when the transport planes do their practice flights here in Ontario! It is weirdly comforting when they circle the city with a touchdown landing turning into running take-offs. Breathtaking for civilians to watch as well.
When have you ever heard of a military boss being fired for incompetence?
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I had one fired...because he couldn’t do geometry. It’s kinda important when you’re an engineer.
I have seen it a couple times. One poor guy had just become an officer, (E to O) went on a power trip, and ended up being kicked out of the military because of his own actions (wound up costing the military about $1B).
@@akakscase A billion??? I don't care if it qualifies as Malicious Comply, but I'm curious about the story.
I might have at least gotten in trouble once for doing something stupid, but I managed to fix my mistake in time before someone noticed! I laugh about it now, but at the time I was frantic! I wouldn't have gotten fired, but I would definitely have gotten a written reprimand -- but what they didn't know didn't hurt me!
RE: the second part of the tale. Disclosure: Deliberately vague, and prior to the collapse of the USSR. When the weapons folks couldn’t figure out why the pneumatic system wasn’t working they came to me, an engineer. They introduced the manual to me as the “Fictional Description” vice the printed “Functional Description” title on the book. Okay, expectation level just dropped a notch. Then I examine the schematic. Then I start taking the thing apart. Expectations keep dropping. The schematic doesn’t match the physical equipment. Long story short, I came to the conclusion that the manual was a decoy to be leaked to the Soviets, knowing they could not build a working system from the manual and schematics. Maybe they had the wrong manual, maybe some alteration was made but not documented. Of course I had never seen the system before, but I methodically figured it out without any references and got it working.
They will get reprimanded or relocated if the issue they cost was bad enough. you don't fire someone from the military they get court-martialed
I was wondering where all the tax dollars went
The stories are quite good, anyone with a passing acquaintance with life in the military wouuld surely recognize similar incidents and people. They funny nevertheless and, above all, they are very charmingly narrated: well done and thank you.
it is the Military... The Commanding officer writes the reports and deals with dicipline. Therefore he will never get in trouble.
Not so. I've seen commanders get in trouble.
A potentiometer can control the current but is not meant to. Potentiometers are usually meant to tune a voltage value. That voltage can be linked to an amplifier circuit that then can control a current. A rheostat, is also a variable resistance, but that one is designed to limit current directly.... the more you know
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Military bosses don’t get fired they are demoted !
Or promoted and posted.
That guy LUCK stat seems doesn't really high, having 3 bad bosses... Could be more waiting in the row...
They didn't get fired because you don't get fired in the military however they do get punished
If you have a good command and base. If not it is always someone else fault and if you disagree you are punished.
This man could be in the Canadian military. That probably is the reason his supervisors do not get fired.
Why don’t they get fired? Well, I’m not knowledgeable about the military but I’m guessing it has something to do with this. For sure, a $MILLION mistake in which a supervisor stupidly did something he was warned the manual told him was a bad idea and fried a bunch of expensive electronic parts WOULD have been a death stroke for most bosses in the private market but...military, I suppose.
One word and you have it.... military.
the stoies are from the workers i bet the boss twisted it so far he looks like a good guy an every one else is breaking things but he is the one holding it all together
u pronounce POT as like u got pots and pans. its just 3 of the letters out of potentiometer. it splits electricity between multiable points. but yeah. love ur content
PAR is probably not "precision approach radar", but phased array radar.
Had a good laugh out of this one. In my field in the military, PAR stood for Pulse Acquisition Radar and was used, along with the CWAR (Continuous Wave Acquisition Radar), to acquire and track targets for the HAWK missile system.
...which is itself an acronym for "Homing All the Way Killer". Sometimes they just try too hard.
Daughter of Canadian Navy man here. I can tell you, the Canadian Navy is always seriously underfunded and having to deal with out dated equipment. Getting the budget required to adequately fund new helicopters or planes is an exercise in endless frustration. So the idea of someone having to "nurse" 40 year old equipment along is believable. Shameful, but believable.
Despite the US budget, a lot of the equipment is 40+ years old. I have personally worked on computers that had 15 pound, 15x9x4 inch hard drives capable of storing 12 MB each.
I NEED a hard hat. I dont care if it is white green or rainbow colored.
Simple...a shit ton of dumb luck
I would be LIVID knowing I had to pull $250k out of the budget because of someone's ego.
"OK, let me video this to study later. Go ahead and teach us."
experience taught me long ago the military is a classic demonstrator of the Peter Principle.
One of the culprits is the "up or out system" in some militaries. You get a guy who is very good at one level, but then in order to stay in, he is required to get promoted, or he has to leave. And then they discover that while he was a good rifleman, he is a piss-poor squad leader.
How he does not get fired - easy They are in the MILITARY so Government stupidity at it's finest.
Military bosses don't get fired. Unless they get someone hurt, in which case they get relieved of command.
Just to clarify, in the military you cant be fired but you can get an dishonorable discharge which is close as it gets to being fired. Also included with the discharge is loss of perks that any soldier/officer would receive upon getting an honorable discharge. Such as retaining any and all rewards that are earned during service, honorary rank (you sorta keep the rank that you left on, but just as a sign of respect, and possibly a pension depending on rank. Also it goes on your record why you got a dishonorable discharge, which can look real bad on paper and in real life situations.
If they lie about it there is nothing you can do and your stuck with it. I have an honorable but the reason is something that is disputed by everyone and unprofessional to determine at my age. Nothing I can do.
Don't say "P-O-T". Just say, "pot". (like pot & pan)
Actually, I am guessing that the potentiometers calibrate a Selsyn motor array to keep the dome tracking consistent. New dimmers and motor speed controls use PWM to chop away the signal that is not used. Selsyns are old tech and DO cause fires when abused.
The video description says someone was "fried over $250,000 worth of components"... Fried? Like in hot oil?
Nope, though I might have joked he completed an unplanned electrical circuit... Fried!
I don't mean to sound like a pain, but 1440 kilos is like 3178 pounds in American. Just wanted to toss it out there. 1 kilo equals 2.05 pounds. Other than that ive heard of quite a few stories from my friends in the armed service with similar stories of new Lt. Or NCOs. I feel for you
matt it’s funny because going through the comments, I haven’t seen anyone (yet) that brought this up. Like you said, I don’t want to be an asshole, but if the OP is going to bring that up snarkily, at least they should have the conversion even semi-accurate. 3178 lbs is vastly different from 90,000 loool.
The course was probably just a load of over confidence building.... Because a lot of courses and staff workshops these days are very "correct" and "all inclusive" no matter the person...
So everyone is so projectedly happy, it seems like everyone in the room is on Lithium....