FED: Anna and Jean require work and using a second seal. Why would I want units with 50 in their attacking stat? Also FED: I love Clanne if you give him seals and train him he can do a whopping nothing with his 0 attacks
Kagetsu deserves more recognition because he is basically the best physical unit in the game. You just have to second-seal him into a different class because swordmaster isn't good and then he will automatically be amazing. I put him in bow knight and I've heard he works great in wyvern rider. With a forged and possibly engraved killer weapon, he gets over 70% crit, and he is so fast that he doubles like everything.
Can confirm, Wyvern kagetsu is one of the best units in the whole game. I give him lyn and a forged Silver axe and by the time he stack speedtaker he can double fast enemies with his heavy axe. Astra Snipes are also great, he almost singlehandedly beat the Micaiah paralogue in only 2 turns for me.
Honestly if you can't make Anna work that's a team comp issue and/or a skill issue. She 's a growth unit in a game where all the beginning units they give you are replaceable, give her Micaiah and a hand axe and thats all the utility you need to get her going. Once you get Byleth, Sage Anna is an easy mvp. The fact that so many people have been able to do this and reap the benefits (cuz the numbers don't lie) makes me wonder what other people who say Anna sucks are doing. Get way more yields than Framme or Clanne could even dream of contributing.
I prefer my Anna on Magic Knight for the extra MS (I run momentum on her which turns her into another gigabroken dive unit with access to Levin sword), although I hear Sage is optimal for damage.
If you have to go out of your way for that long just to get her to mvp status that sounds like a massive waste of time when you get plenty of magic users that can perform just as well.
@@evicteetori8738 3 chapters after her joining doesnt seem that long. Once you get her promoted to Mage Knight she can start going. Yes, you can get her to lvl 10 in 3 chapters with Micaiah even in Maddening. I've done this.
Definitely surprised by Anna cause after 3 playthroughs I haven't seen a unit that can compare magic wise and I find her to come online very quickly with micaiah
Ivy definitely compares, especially with Lynn - she's a flier that can basically double anything. Citrine with a thunder ring can also one round things mages have no right to one round. Anna is a great unit, don't get me wrong, but there are plenty of excellent mage candidates.
In terms of pure damage + doubling Anna has 5% growth rate in magic than Ivy's entire magic growth rate. (50% to 55%.) You can get Anna the same magic growth with a lance fighter as Ivy with her class + personal growth rate. Ivy also has 25% less dex growth and 10% less speed. I like Ivy but flying is the only upside. Do like using Lyn with her but in my maddening playthough I'm using Lyn on Anna and the enemy units don't even attack her because she's in the 5% hit range most of the time. Do think her mobility is a little lower but might try using Celica with her to give her Warp Ragnorak. The speed cap for sage is lower but the 25 cap in dex for Ivy is a bit interesting. Sage + Anna magic cap is 49 and she reaches that pretty easily. Ivy's cap is 40. But that flying is just invaluable. They might add a flying magic user in later. (Kind of like how they did in 3H).
@@DarkflameEmperor i dont get why flying is regarded to be so good. I think it's one of the worst unit types. Weak to bows, immune to terrain bonuses, no other better bonuses like brave assist or mystival. I rather have anna all day.
@@sympathism Movement is so good in FE in general. It feels like they nerfed fliers for Engage but movement is still really good. Flying + healing is still god tier. Being able to freeze / fracture / etc behind safety is also pretty good. But the mystical ignoring terrain bonus kind of puts them over flying in a lot of circumstances. Anna with speed and in fog likely doesn't get hit by much and ignores the terrain bonus on enemies so her +11 dex to Ivy's 25 max is a lot. I do think having warp be pretty accessible also takes away from the strength of flying. It is however, still a great utility to use.
@@DarkflameEmperor I think flying is useful on some maps, but on most of the maps it doesnt give any benefit at all. It's just that their personal classes and bonuses they get are better, but I am certainly not reclassing everyone to a wyvern knight or griffon rider for example, like I did in 3h hahah
You obviously didn't invest in Anna because she is This game's equivalent of lysithea If you put her as a sage and hand her the byleth ring. SHE WRECKS MAPS 💥! And gets you tens of thousands of gold and makes the economy a lot better. Stop the Anna hate 😎! Stop hating on Timerra too. You give her a brave Lance and get her dex up she'll start one shotting the field with sandstorm.
@@rachadlendar4918 i agree, but Timerra can tank pretty reliably without any investment, so she isn't even useless and randomly oneshots a few enemies along the way. Obviously not top tier, but people keep putting her in D or F when she is realistically a solid B+. Also Alcryst is just like Timerra in the midgame: no dmg without Luna proccs. So why is he rated so much higher than her even tho he doesn't have the tank upside Timerra has? Flyers aren't that scary after chapter 13 either, so i really don't get it.
Hey, K.nDo here. Thought I’d give some reasoning on my character tier list here. Etie is my fav unit (if u couldn’t tell) if I was to rank her honestly I would put her one behind alcryst in A tier. She is a lot better than what people give her credit for. Anna isn’t too hard to get xp on if u leave jean’s paralogue until after Anna’s. U just have her healbot a green unit on that map with miciah and boom level 10 in axe fighter. I know celine is good I just have a hard time keeping her alive throughout the mid game, this is based of multiple play throughs too. Zelkov is just a better yunaka with less investment needed which is why he is S and she is A. I ranked vander top of D because of his early game utility but couldn’t place him in C because of his fall of. And I think that’s everything he talked about. Any more questions u have I will try to answer in the replies
I think your reluctance to invest in growth units makes you too harsh on them. I think Anna deserves to be placed as a mid-tier unit (as triabolical did in his list) It's just that you, personally, would probably think something like, "I don't want to spend a bunch of time on a unit that ends up being just decent"
Yeah, ngl I'm a bit of a Jean hater because training him even on staves is PAIN. Still Anna joins with like... Boucheron bases but higher dex/res & 2 lower def/luck/Bld. The Bld is pretty annoying i.g. Still raising her never felt... hard on maddening?
Can you sell Master Seals in this game? I never see them in the list of items to sell. Also, thanks for spreading the Framme is underrated message. She's definitely not amazing, but she can be super useful throughout most of the game.
Make Anna a mage and she’s god tier. Her magic growth is the highest in the game and giving her dire thunder will allow her to double guaranteed. People think Anna is bad because she starts as a borderline unusable physical unit but she can be the best magic nuke with minimal investment. A master seal to a second seal to sage or mage knight is all she needs to get going.
I don’t get putting Jean in lower tiers just because he’s a growth unit; the fact that he’s a staff user in a game where staves are really good makes him _much_ easier to get caught up than most growth units. Considering how early he joins, it doesn’t take long for him to catch up, either. If Jean has to be “babied,” than I could argue that nearly every healer in the series, including Framme, has to be babied to be good. Jean basically starts squishy even by healer standards in exchange for being incredibly good at higher levels. Now if only he had a personal skill.
This was definitely a fun video 😂 I do think I agree with the Tier-ers that put Yunaka above Zelkov though. Even if they’re maybe the same tier, I think she’s a bit better purely because one of the main counters to covert units is enemy mysticals (usually sages), and Zelkov just melts to them with how bad his Res stat is
Eh, Zelkov has higher Str and Avo, while Yunaka has higher Mag, Res, and Crit. I personally like Zelkov more because of his higher Str, plus it’s not like they’ll be in much danger most of the time anyways, even against mystics.
The reason I think Zelkov is worse than Yunaka is because he wears a black cloak which makes him look like a unit that has already moved. You can buy him a new outfit but he will only wear it in the Somniel. That messed me up so many times on my first run.
I think you're definitely overestimating Vander. Firstly, early maps are actually quite easy in Engage, Chloe and Louis absolutely pop off in the earlygame, not to mention Alear being just such a no brainer candidate to funnel kills to. Besides that, his combat is barely any better than others, his real boon is his hp, his str wont one shot (Hell sometimes its not enough to feed kills), his speed is horrible, his defence and res are okayish, and his dex leaves him with nasty hit rate issues. On top of that, Engage is one of the only games where kills are such a commodity that a Jagen killing things actually does have negative consequences. This may change with the well update, but getting a non alear unit to 1k sp for Canter before chapter 10 is actually tough (My Level 3 Griffon Chloe was just a few sp short) As another nitpick, Emblem Alear is super strong. Perhaps I'm biased since I used it on Ivy, a god in human skin, but being able to have this magical nuke with speedtaker suddenly become obscenely tanky and evasive turned brutal maps into Birthright. With dragons Fist she would consistently hit over 100 damage on even decent res bosses like Marth and Zephia, and would face hitrates below 10 from most if not all enemies. Also the action granting Alear an extra move has some really cool uses but it is difficult to plan.
I get that she joins later but Anna kinda has... really similar bases as Boucheron doesn't she? I call Jean a growth unit but Anna honestly seems WAY easier to level than him. I don't really see her being lower than Celine tbh but that might be slight hyping her up. The Zelkov/Yunaka waifu bias is funny though as a Yunaka fan myself. Good stuff as usual. Edit meme: I like... always end up dropping Jean on maddening but Anna kinda never felt hard to use and she turns into a hard carry that gives money. Idk opinions are opinions.
Glad to see the Framme respect. I really like her except for when it comes to interactions with Alear She’s always a strong staple for me as my bonded shield abuser. She actually one rounds fairly consistently with flashing fist+lunar brace so she also has damage on top of utility
Idk why u under appreciate Timerra so much ? Idk if u used her, but she’s an incredible tank that thanks to sandstorm and a solid dex stat, also is an offensive beast- especially with a brave lance
My hot take is Alear is solidly S tier. Along with dragon utility and decent combat Alear has protagonist privileges. Perfect availability. Force deployed so don't have to give up a deployment slot. Really good personal skill giving adjacent allies +3 atk. Can support with everyone so will give and receive bonuses with any adjacent ally. Access to the convoy effectively gives Alear infinite inventory space. Some pretty decent personal weapons.
I have to disagree about anna and jean. I think anna is pretty low investment. She’s a backup unit which is good and can use axes for two range (still not too great cuz axes) but she can promote right into warrior and do good damage with the shining bow. And you don’t really have to baby jean at all cuz he can just be heal bot who chain guards then be a pretty good high priest (or martial master).
I don’t understand why people like Celine. I’ve tried her on maddening and hard, fixed and unfixed, yet she always comes up lacking. She’s a great filler unit cause she can do a bit of everything, but any actual role can be filled better by another unit. What am I missing?
Agreed. Done two hard and two maddening runs, and Celine constantly seems to fall off even with investment around chapter 17, where Anna is solid by chapter 10 and carries late game every time.
@@ThatFoxGirl I do think Adam over estimates the investment required for Anna and underestimates the reward as well. I don’t think she’s S tier on maddening or anything, but she’s at least decent. Celine just isn’t particularly good at any one thing.
I think they like her cuz she’s the best Levin Sword wielder, at least in the early game. Agreed, good filler unit, she’s usu my Corrin flames-bot with occasional thunder magic or staff utility
She is great early cause she can actually kill all of these armor knights and that's about it. I also think she falls super fast and her build is so garbage there really is no upside to giving her Levin sword (except for Momentum charged Sigurd rush). Investing into her doesn't seem wasted, but it also never feels great lategame so yeah, she is B not A or S.
@@Game3Free Arguably after promoting Chloe is the best Levin sword user, cause she actually has the speed to double with it and her magic scales into lategame just as good.
See but now we can critique your tier list critiques Anna and Jean are the first growth units not named Donnell that pay off with so so investment. I personally wouldn't run both and I prefer Anna because she just heals/obstructs for 5 levels. Toss Framme because the only class Framme isnt outclassed by mid game units is Martial Master. Mage knight Anna hits the bench marks for a maddening mage to one shot almost everything. Though her passive kind of got worse with the free resources in updates and especially now with the well Jean you can do something similar with, or make him cracked by waiting until after gaining access to second seals for his chapter. But it's a bit more planning, and routing in the beginning is annoying anyways
Lama as in Dalai Lama I guess. Yeah Eirika should be farther right, I learned more about her after making this. 2D is mainly a jumbled meme that requires a lot of context to parse. Impressed you gave it a shot though, thanks. XD
Here is my tier list. Let me know what you guys think. YOU CHEATED NOT ONLY THE GAME BUT YOURSELF - Tiki, Claude, Dimitri, Edelgard, Soren, Hector, Veronica, Chrom, Robin. LEGITIMATE CHARACTERS - Everyone else.
I'm doing a run to see how strong all the horrible units are (On normal). The xp gain is so much more than maddening it's not even funny. Anyway Boucheron is really interesting as I never leveled him but at level 1 berserker he's doing over 120 damage (21 strength + brave axe+4). I have marth on him and Marth's attack at half damage after the first attack does 13x2. . . I was going to meme train him but at the moment he looks very usable in maddening. I'll see what comes after he loses Marth though because that +3 speed really saves him. (Speed at 15 in maddening isn't too bad.) My next maddening run I'm using Alear as a healer. If you don't use him enough he falls behind fast.
I've been calling Erika slept on for the longest time. You engage and you get +5 damage, -5 damage taken, 100% activation player phase sol AND Luna, and an effective weapon against most of the enemy units? How did anyone think this was bad?
I want to like Timerra, but her stat spread is honestly garbage. She's too slow to double most enemies, but her attacks aren't nearly powerful enough to compensate. She has a somewhat high defense growth, but it isn't nearly high enough to have her tank a few hits. I mean, sure, Alfred is not a great unit, not at all, but at least he is good at something and works well with Ike instead of being mediocre at everything he does.
Ehm her speed is high enough to not get doubled, which makes her tank more than Alfred can, especially against mages. Give her Leif or Ike and she is just as reliable as a tank as Alfred is, while not needing any investment and a potential oneshot proc. Something Alfred could never do. If you want a low speed Tank that takes no dmg but gets onerounded by every mage take Louis instead, cause he does Alfreds job better.
My go to catchphrase for this game has become: "No matter how bad a unit may be doing, they can never be as how badly Emblem Ephraim was shafted" Basically another common Emblem Ephraim L
She will be better than kagetsu if you had indeed given her 'everything'. I do agree that she is good tho. I classed her as a swordmaster then immediately relassed her to wyvern knight and she wrecks. It fixes her strength growth gives her more build AND with her insane speed she barely gets hit and always doubles
Ah yes, who would've that giving a single unit all your resources will make them good, I don't think you know how tier lists work, if you need to literally give her everything to be good then she's not good whatsoever
@@rachadlendar4918 she is Chloe lite. If Chloe is A she is B, end of the discussion. Make her into a Wyvern and all her problems are solved. And second seals aren't contested at all. I even used her as without promoting until chapter 12 and she still performed just with a Marth engraving on her steel sword without forging, something i usually give Alear to make him borderline usable in the early chapters. So just move the weapon and give Alear Diamants Steel sword and boom you have 2 good sword users instead of 1.
Vander is F outside of the easy tutorial chapters = F overall, don't waste engage ring sp gain on him. If you don't think Anna is at least A tier then you've never used her as a magic class. No offense but you have to be pretty bad at the game to struggle so much that you can't "baby" units in the early chapters to get them some early level ups enough to be useful.
There is nothing hard about using micaiah on her for two chapters, but why bother if Ivy joins anyway and has flying utility with similar stats? The gold definitely isn't needed to beat maddening and if it is, then no offense, but you must be pretty bad at gold management.
@@darkgrundi9543 Yikes someone took my comment personally, and with such a poorly thought out response too. The point I was arguing in the video is that high scaling characters like Anna or even Jean aren't weak because you have to baby them for 2 chapters. But no according to this channel, Vander is better because he's good on the tutorial chapter lmao. And when did I even mention gold management??? Gold is just a bonus that makes the game more fun and it's 100x better than chars like Frammes passive. Stop trying to argue just for the sake of argument.
FED: Anna and Jean require work and using a second seal. Why would I want units with 50 in their attacking stat?
Also FED: I love Clanne if you give him seals and train him he can do a whopping nothing with his 0 attacks
Oh no he's fighting back😨
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I hate it when they struggle :/
Kagetsu deserves more recognition because he is basically the best physical unit in the game. You just have to second-seal him into a different class because swordmaster isn't good and then he will automatically be amazing. I put him in bow knight and I've heard he works great in wyvern rider. With a forged and possibly engraved killer weapon, he gets over 70% crit, and he is so fast that he doubles like everything.
Can confirm, Wyvern kagetsu is one of the best units in the whole game. I give him lyn and a forged Silver axe and by the time he stack speedtaker he can double fast enemies with his heavy axe. Astra Snipes are also great, he almost singlehandedly beat the Micaiah paralogue in only 2 turns for me.
I would say that Panette is better but Kagetsu is still great. I make him a Paladin and that works great for him
Honestly if you can't make Anna work that's a team comp issue and/or a skill issue. She 's a growth unit in a game where all the beginning units they give you are replaceable, give her Micaiah and a hand axe and thats all the utility you need to get her going. Once you get Byleth, Sage Anna is an easy mvp. The fact that so many people have been able to do this and reap the benefits (cuz the numbers don't lie) makes me wonder what other people who say Anna sucks are doing. Get way more yields than Framme or Clanne could even dream of contributing.
Preach!! 🙌🏼
I prefer my Anna on Magic Knight for the extra MS (I run momentum on her which turns her into another gigabroken dive unit with access to Levin sword), although I hear Sage is optimal for damage.
If you have to go out of your way for that long just to get her to mvp status that sounds like a massive waste of time when you get plenty of magic users that can perform just as well.
@@evicteetori8738 anna’s biggest boon is the fact she is anna, that is all you need
@@evicteetori8738 3 chapters after her joining doesnt seem that long. Once you get her promoted to Mage Knight she can start going.
Yes, you can get her to lvl 10 in 3 chapters with Micaiah even in Maddening. I've done this.
Definitely surprised by Anna cause after 3 playthroughs I haven't seen a unit that can compare magic wise and I find her to come online very quickly with micaiah
Ivy definitely compares, especially with Lynn - she's a flier that can basically double anything. Citrine with a thunder ring can also one round things mages have no right to one round. Anna is a great unit, don't get me wrong, but there are plenty of excellent mage candidates.
In terms of pure damage + doubling Anna has 5% growth rate in magic than Ivy's entire magic growth rate. (50% to 55%.) You can get Anna the same magic growth with a lance fighter as Ivy with her class + personal growth rate.
Ivy also has 25% less dex growth and 10% less speed.
I like Ivy but flying is the only upside. Do like using Lyn with her but in my maddening playthough I'm using Lyn on Anna and the enemy units don't even attack her because she's in the 5% hit range most of the time.
Do think her mobility is a little lower but might try using Celica with her to give her Warp Ragnorak.
The speed cap for sage is lower but the 25 cap in dex for Ivy is a bit interesting.
Sage + Anna magic cap is 49 and she reaches that pretty easily.
Ivy's cap is 40.
But that flying is just invaluable.
They might add a flying magic user in later. (Kind of like how they did in 3H).
@@DarkflameEmperor i dont get why flying is regarded to be so good. I think it's one of the worst unit types. Weak to bows, immune to terrain bonuses, no other better bonuses like brave assist or mystival. I rather have anna all day.
@@sympathism Movement is so good in FE in general. It feels like they nerfed fliers for Engage but movement is still really good.
Flying + healing is still god tier. Being able to freeze / fracture / etc behind safety is also pretty good.
But the mystical ignoring terrain bonus kind of puts them over flying in a lot of circumstances.
Anna with speed and in fog likely doesn't get hit by much and ignores the terrain bonus on enemies so her +11 dex to Ivy's 25 max is a lot.
I do think having warp be pretty accessible also takes away from the strength of flying. It is however, still a great utility to use.
@@DarkflameEmperor I think flying is useful on some maps, but on most of the maps it doesnt give any benefit at all. It's just that their personal classes and bonuses they get are better, but I am certainly not reclassing everyone to a wyvern knight or griffon rider for example, like I did in 3h hahah
Ivy 2:43 "I understand the attraction of big-"
Me: 👀
"-magic stat on a dragon"
Enough of the Anti-Timerra propaganda. Play her better. It's a skill issue, not a unit issue
You obviously didn't invest in Anna because she is This game's equivalent of lysithea If you put her as a sage and hand her the byleth ring. SHE WRECKS MAPS 💥! And gets you tens of thousands of gold and makes the economy a lot better.
Stop the Anna hate 😎!
Stop hating on Timerra too. You give her a brave Lance and get her dex up she'll start one shotting the field with sandstorm.
If you need to give characters rare recourses to be good when other characters don't need them to be good than there not a good unit,
@@rachadlendar4918 i agree, but Timerra can tank pretty reliably without any investment, so she isn't even useless and randomly oneshots a few enemies along the way. Obviously not top tier, but people keep putting her in D or F when she is realistically a solid B+. Also Alcryst is just like Timerra in the midgame: no dmg without Luna proccs. So why is he rated so much higher than her even tho he doesn't have the tank upside Timerra has? Flyers aren't that scary after chapter 13 either, so i really don't get it.
Adam, I am getting FED up with all these TEAR Lists.
Thanks for the shoutout! But I refuse to put Framme any higher than she is on my tierlist.
Hey, K.nDo here. Thought I’d give some reasoning on my character tier list here. Etie is my fav unit (if u couldn’t tell) if I was to rank her honestly I would put her one behind alcryst in A tier. She is a lot better than what people give her credit for. Anna isn’t too hard to get xp on if u leave jean’s paralogue until after Anna’s. U just have her healbot a green unit on that map with miciah and boom level 10 in axe fighter. I know celine is good I just have a hard time keeping her alive throughout the mid game, this is based of multiple play throughs too. Zelkov is just a better yunaka with less investment needed which is why he is S and she is A. I ranked vander top of D because of his early game utility but couldn’t place him in C because of his fall of. And I think that’s everything he talked about. Any more questions u have I will try to answer in the replies
I think your reluctance to invest in growth units makes you too harsh on them.
I think Anna deserves to be placed as a mid-tier unit (as triabolical did in his list)
It's just that you, personally, would probably think something like, "I don't want to spend a bunch of time on a unit that ends up being just decent"
Yeah, ngl I'm a bit of a Jean hater because training him even on staves is PAIN.
Still Anna joins with like... Boucheron bases but higher dex/res & 2 lower def/luck/Bld.
The Bld is pretty annoying i.g. Still raising her never felt... hard on maddening?
Can you sell Master Seals in this game? I never see them in the list of items to sell.
Also, thanks for spreading the Framme is underrated message. She's definitely not amazing, but she can be super useful throughout most of the game.
Vander is indeed great for the first 5 chapters. As a meat-shield without a weapon hehe.
Make Anna a mage and she’s god tier. Her magic growth is the highest in the game and giving her dire thunder will allow her to double guaranteed. People think Anna is bad because she starts as a borderline unusable physical unit but she can be the best magic nuke with minimal investment. A master seal to a second seal to sage or mage knight is all she needs to get going.
FED made a magic dmg only run and she still underperformed, what does that tell us?
@@darkgrundi9543 he did it wrong?
I don’t get putting Jean in lower tiers just because he’s a growth unit; the fact that he’s a staff user in a game where staves are really good makes him _much_ easier to get caught up than most growth units. Considering how early he joins, it doesn’t take long for him to catch up, either. If Jean has to be “babied,” than I could argue that nearly every healer in the series, including Framme, has to be babied to be good. Jean basically starts squishy even by healer standards in exchange for being incredibly good at higher levels. Now if only he had a personal skill.
This was definitely a fun video 😂 I do think I agree with the Tier-ers that put Yunaka above Zelkov though. Even if they’re maybe the same tier, I think she’s a bit better purely because one of the main counters to covert units is enemy mysticals (usually sages), and Zelkov just melts to them with how bad his Res stat is
Eh, Zelkov has higher Str and Avo, while Yunaka has higher Mag, Res, and Crit. I personally like Zelkov more because of his higher Str, plus it’s not like they’ll be in much danger most of the time anyways, even against mystics.
The reason I think Zelkov is worse than Yunaka is because he wears a black cloak which makes him look like a unit that has already moved. You can buy him a new outfit but he will only wear it in the Somniel. That messed me up so many times on my first run.
I think you're definitely overestimating Vander. Firstly, early maps are actually quite easy in Engage, Chloe and Louis absolutely pop off in the earlygame, not to mention Alear being just such a no brainer candidate to funnel kills to. Besides that, his combat is barely any better than others, his real boon is his hp, his str wont one shot (Hell sometimes its not enough to feed kills), his speed is horrible, his defence and res are okayish, and his dex leaves him with nasty hit rate issues. On top of that, Engage is one of the only games where kills are such a commodity that a Jagen killing things actually does have negative consequences. This may change with the well update, but getting a non alear unit to 1k sp for Canter before chapter 10 is actually tough (My Level 3 Griffon Chloe was just a few sp short)
As another nitpick, Emblem Alear is super strong. Perhaps I'm biased since I used it on Ivy, a god in human skin, but being able to have this magical nuke with speedtaker suddenly become obscenely tanky and evasive turned brutal maps into Birthright. With dragons Fist she would consistently hit over 100 damage on even decent res bosses like Marth and Zephia, and would face hitrates below 10 from most if not all enemies. Also the action granting Alear an extra move has some really cool uses but it is difficult to plan.
I get that she joins later but Anna kinda has... really similar bases as Boucheron doesn't she?
I call Jean a growth unit but Anna honestly seems WAY easier to level than him. I don't really see her being lower than Celine tbh but that might be slight hyping her up. The Zelkov/Yunaka waifu bias is funny though as a Yunaka fan myself.
Good stuff as usual.
Edit meme: I like... always end up dropping Jean on maddening but Anna kinda never felt hard to use and she turns into a hard carry that gives money. Idk opinions are opinions.
Glad to see the Framme respect.
I really like her except for when it comes to interactions with Alear
She’s always a strong staple for me as my bonded shield abuser. She actually one rounds fairly consistently with flashing fist+lunar brace so she also has damage on top of utility
Idk why u under appreciate Timerra so much ? Idk if u used her, but she’s an incredible tank that thanks to sandstorm and a solid dex stat, also is an offensive beast- especially with a brave lance
My hot take is Alear is solidly S tier.
Along with dragon utility and decent combat Alear has protagonist privileges.
Perfect availability. Force deployed so don't have to give up a deployment slot. Really good personal skill giving adjacent allies +3 atk. Can support with everyone so will give and receive bonuses with any adjacent ally. Access to the convoy effectively gives Alear infinite inventory space. Some pretty decent personal weapons.
I love fallen angels. Very straight forward and a true representation of characters that don't suck because they didn't die
Zelkov and Amber are so underrated in so many of these, such cowardice !!
I never took much to Wolf Knight. Seemed a bit lacklustre. I got fed up of it and swapped Merrin to Paladin. At which point she went nuts.
Darn was looking fwd to ur review of mine which was right after Lama's....oh well, hopefully u continue this as it's super fun
Lol I didn’t know it was gonna be a vid, but fair enough.
I have to disagree about anna and jean. I think anna is pretty low investment. She’s a backup unit which is good and can use axes for two range (still not too great cuz axes) but she can promote right into warrior and do good damage with the shining bow. And you don’t really have to baby jean at all cuz he can just be heal bot who chain guards then be a pretty good high priest (or martial master).
4:30 LMAOOOO 😭
I don’t understand why people like Celine. I’ve tried her on maddening and hard, fixed and unfixed, yet she always comes up lacking. She’s a great filler unit cause she can do a bit of everything, but any actual role can be filled better by another unit. What am I missing?
Agreed. Done two hard and two maddening runs, and Celine constantly seems to fall off even with investment around chapter 17, where Anna is solid by chapter 10 and carries late game every time.
@@ThatFoxGirl I do think Adam over estimates the investment required for Anna and underestimates the reward as well. I don’t think she’s S tier on maddening or anything, but she’s at least decent. Celine just isn’t particularly good at any one thing.
I think they like her cuz she’s the best Levin Sword wielder, at least in the early game. Agreed, good filler unit, she’s usu my Corrin flames-bot with occasional thunder magic or staff utility
She is great early cause she can actually kill all of these armor knights and that's about it. I also think she falls super fast and her build is so garbage there really is no upside to giving her Levin sword (except for Momentum charged Sigurd rush). Investing into her doesn't seem wasted, but it also never feels great lategame so yeah, she is B not A or S.
@@Game3Free Arguably after promoting Chloe is the best Levin sword user, cause she actually has the speed to double with it and her magic scales into lategame just as good.
Also frame is so underated even outside the qi adept memes. I did get a wyrven for maddening and was a good tomahawk bot
Blindcocos list made a lot of sense to me.
My Anna's been carrying my ass on my maddening run lol
See but now we can critique your tier list critiques
Anna and Jean are the first growth units not named Donnell that pay off with so so investment. I personally wouldn't run both and I prefer Anna because she just heals/obstructs for 5 levels. Toss Framme because the only class Framme isnt outclassed by mid game units is Martial Master.
Mage knight Anna hits the bench marks for a maddening mage to one shot almost everything. Though her passive kind of got worse with the free resources in updates and especially now with the well
Jean you can do something similar with, or make him cracked by waiting until after gaining access to second seals for his chapter. But it's a bit more planning, and routing in the beginning is annoying anyways
glad to be featured
Lama as in Dalai Lama I guess.
Yeah Eirika should be farther right, I learned more about her after making this.
2D is mainly a jumbled meme that requires a lot of context to parse.
Impressed you gave it a shot though, thanks. XD
The main point of early vs. late is to better represent units like Vander.
Lvy is a fan favourite character but in battle she is very underwhelming
Remember that vid with JonoabboFE critiquing Adam’s 3H tier list? Lol I think an Engage sequel is doable with the Anna opinion alone
Here is my tier list.
Let me know what you guys think.
YOU CHEATED NOT ONLY THE GAME BUT YOURSELF - Tiki, Claude, Dimitri, Edelgard, Soren, Hector, Veronica, Chrom, Robin.
LEGITIMATE CHARACTERS - Everyone else.
I love this video great concept
I'm doing a run to see how strong all the horrible units are (On normal). The xp gain is so much more than maddening it's not even funny. Anyway Boucheron is really interesting as I never leveled him but at level 1 berserker he's doing over 120 damage (21 strength + brave axe+4).
I have marth on him and Marth's attack at half damage after the first attack does 13x2. . .
I was going to meme train him but at the moment he looks very usable in maddening.
I'll see what comes after he loses Marth though because that +3 speed really saves him. (Speed at 15 in maddening isn't too bad.)
My next maddening run I'm using Alear as a healer. If you don't use him enough he falls behind fast.
This is really interesting to me because my Clanne is a delete bot. I'm only on chapter 13 though.
Now i wanna see a framme defense video 😂😂
I've been calling Erika slept on for the longest time.
You engage and you get +5 damage, -5 damage taken, 100% activation player phase sol AND Luna, and an effective weapon against most of the enemy units?
How did anyone think this was bad?
I want to like Timerra, but her stat spread is honestly garbage. She's too slow to double most enemies, but her attacks aren't nearly powerful enough to compensate. She has a somewhat high defense growth, but it isn't nearly high enough to have her tank a few hits. I mean, sure, Alfred is not a great unit, not at all, but at least he is good at something and works well with Ike instead of being mediocre at everything he does.
Ehm her speed is high enough to not get doubled, which makes her tank more than Alfred can, especially against mages. Give her Leif or Ike and she is just as reliable as a tank as Alfred is, while not needing any investment and a potential oneshot proc. Something Alfred could never do. If you want a low speed Tank that takes no dmg but gets onerounded by every mage take Louis instead, cause he does Alfreds job better.
My go to catchphrase for this game has become:
"No matter how bad a unit may be doing, they can never be as how badly Emblem Ephraim was shafted"
Basically another common Emblem Ephraim L
Instant bench is F Tier
Amber-don’t like the guy but no way is he in F.
Timera is the best unit in the Game
Y'know, this is why I didn't make one.
Is Anna good as a mage?
Anna is one of the best mages. Run her High Priest for gold farm or Sage for super high damage
*all tier lists are awful
Lapis ❤
my lapis is op i put everything into her she more op then kagetsu. why everyone hating on lapis
She will be better than kagetsu if you had indeed given her 'everything'. I do agree that she is good tho. I classed her as a swordmaster then immediately relassed her to wyvern knight and she wrecks. It fixes her strength growth gives her more build AND with her insane speed she barely gets hit and always doubles
Ah yes, who would've that giving a single unit all your resources will make them good, I don't think you know how tier lists work, if you need to literally give her everything to be good then she's not good whatsoever
@@rachadlendar4918 she is Chloe lite. If Chloe is A she is B, end of the discussion. Make her into a Wyvern and all her problems are solved. And second seals aren't contested at all. I even used her as without promoting until chapter 12 and she still performed just with a Marth engraving on her steel sword without forging, something i usually give Alear to make him borderline usable in the early chapters. So just move the weapon and give Alear Diamants Steel sword and boom you have 2 good sword users instead of 1.
Vander is F outside of the easy tutorial chapters = F overall, don't waste engage ring sp gain on him.
If you don't think Anna is at least A tier then you've never used her as a magic class. No offense but you have to be pretty bad at the game to struggle so much that you can't "baby" units in the early chapters to get them some early level ups enough to be useful.
There is nothing hard about using micaiah on her for two chapters, but why bother if Ivy joins anyway and has flying utility with similar stats? The gold definitely isn't needed to beat maddening and if it is, then no offense, but you must be pretty bad at gold management.
@@darkgrundi9543 Yikes someone took my comment personally, and with such a poorly thought out response too. The point I was arguing in the video is that high scaling characters like Anna or even Jean aren't weak because you have to baby them for 2 chapters. But no according to this channel, Vander is better because he's good on the tutorial chapter lmao. And when did I even mention gold management??? Gold is just a bonus that makes the game more fun and it's 100x better than chars like Frammes passive.
Stop trying to argue just for the sake of argument.
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Liking lapis and goldmary more than timerra is a fucking joke lol