Me too, dude. All Christians look up to and follow Christian Prince not knowing the immense amount of lies he tells, and also the fact he is very unfair in his debates (essentially “cheating” in a debate using editing and stuff)
@@waterishorrendousHe does not lie. It is Islam that lies. Why no honest Muslim talk about the hadith that ask to kill all jews, black dogs and other stupid things like that. Also no one talks with the fact that there are big historical errors in the Quran... Muslims just always find a get around because theyre affraid or to Much proud to say "maybe i am wrong"
As a former christian i can confirm atleast that I was very vitious and tried to quote anything as possible until i was humbbled and became muslim alhamdulillah @@andiachmads7851
@@andiachmads7851my brother in Islam cp didn’t lie because calling him a liar is an understatement can you believe this man brought some random dude named Khalid onto his stupid skype debates and deceived everyone into thinking he was sheikh uthman in the thumbnail he said it was sheikh uthman but my guy didn’t sound nothing like sheikh uthman ibn farooq There is no word to describe how bad he his and how good he is at deceiving people he might even make Dajjal a tiny bit jealous
@@travisanderson3920stop being mad blud , nobody refutes him or any knowledgable muslim because islam is the truth . Idc what you feel about it but atleast try to search whatever you believe and islam and leave emotions aside
@Bangladesh_Edits Paul should have warned them that eating dirty pork can kill you slowly he always wants the worst for his followers aka the people he misleads and deceived
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324He explain cristian because cristian pick bible that just only an english translation without the untranslated, every english translation is translate from the untranslated create by translator, soo where is the untranslated?
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 You're trying to flip it around on us and ended up with a contridiction... Muslims are not disbelievers, having contridictions is a typical part of the Christian faith
very cool hehe Narrated `Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 6130 In-book reference : Book 78, Hadith 157
How to convert (revert) to Islam Basically to become a Muslim is very simple.. you need to say the decleration of faith oraly while you believe in it by heart with a firm conviction and unshakeable faith.
The decleration of Faith in Islam (The Shahada) The Shahada (in Arabic) can be declared as follows : “ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH” The English translation is : “I bear witness that there is no deity (none truly to be worshipped) but, Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.”
@@agp4580 thexstone of unction?? lol hahaha. anything to defend your pagan rock kissing cult lol. what are you gonna tell me next? It's OK to marry a six year old ?
Mursal doesn’t necessitate that the disconnection is between sahabi and tabie. Any disconnection in anywhere in the chain causes the hadith to be classified as mursal. so no you are wrong. In many cases which means it can’t be as an evidence at his own. It needs other soppurting stronger evidance and this will be used just to clarify in many cases. In this case he is using it as a standalone evidance
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asharisarejahmis OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!! Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims. You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!? (You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol) You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work. "This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani). Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates: "This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar. In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones. It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics." You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"?? Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too? Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too? To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it.... "Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)." Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol! Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus. You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!! Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my beech (But don't worry, you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel) :) And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
@@alimghazzawi3700 nope read 👇 «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" ابن تيمية (ت728هـ) حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
@@cldrawings1224 nope, he already says in the short that the satanic verses r weak theres nothing more to add to it if u cant cope with that thats a you problem
@@burakcoskun1865 who said Ramsi said, so Rob demonstrated it isn't and Ramsi pointed to the wrong Haddith that had different chain of narration and not the same chain of narration to the one Rob showed and Ramsi has been ghosting since then. Something isn't true just because Ramsi said it mate!
@@cldrawings1224 so it isn't because rob said it i just watched the video ue didn't refute shit he just kept on blabbering and repeating the same bs he said before all satanic verses r daif
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324whenever i look at history of islam, i love it more, better that christians who would throw their bible away and admit that the spanish Inquisitions and the crusaders weren't good guys even thou they have followed the doctrines
24th pauline exposed here because Alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in correcting hadith so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment m@ b 😘😘😘😘🤪
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@John_Six_Twenty-Nineyou got epzos3d 😘😘😘😘 «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" ابن تيمية (ت728هـ) حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
@@jacobantony1040 Jacob, first of all I do not want to be disrespectful. But the way you describe god is anything but righteous. Righteousness is punishing the transgressor. How did god, being righteous, burden all of humanity prior to Jesus with the sin of another man? And how is that fair to them when all who come after Jesus are absolved from this sin so heinous god himself had to come down to absolve humanity of? Christianity in this context makes zero sense. I am not even going to get into Jesus being divine being nonsensical. Being a muslim makes me biased of course but this seems like a fair question.
May Allah bless brother rumzi for strengthening my Iman with Islam on the daily ❤❤❤❤ May Allah grant you the highest ranks of Jannah, Ameen Ameen brother!
I’m a Christian and their is a big difference between Islam in Christianity. Yes you Islamic people may worship the same God as we Christian’s do. But the only thing you Islamic people get wrong is in order to come or go to the Father you must believe in what his Son Jesus did for you. Jesus is the Son of God, who came down to Earth as God in the flesh. Jesus Christ always existed with the Father it says so in the Bible in Genesis 1:26 it states “[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” And if you look in the New Testament in John 1:1-3 you will see how Jesus always existed with the Father. John 1:1-3 states “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.” The term word is referring to Jesus. Read further to John 1:14 and you will see that I’m right. John 1:14 states “14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” So therefore Jesus always existed with the Father. When Jesus took up flesh and walked the Earth he preached his Father word and preformed many miracles. But every word and miracle he performed was done by his Fathers will and power. Jesus even said it himself. Read John 5:19-23 it states “19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.” This isn’t the only time Jesus says this about himself and the Father. If you read John 14:5-10 it states “5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.” 9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.” So therefore we can conclude that everything Jesus did was through the Father. Now I know many of you will say then why did Jesus pray to God if he was God in the Flesh? Let me break it down for you Jesus was man (Body), which means Jesus had a soul, and the Holy Sprit was inside of him which is the Father. So Jesus was God in the Flesh but different then what you Muslims understand. A good example of this is when Jesus was on the Cross. When Jesus was on the Cross he still had the Holy Sprit up until all of humanity’s sin and shame was thrown on him. Once he had done that will the Holy Sprit left him because it can not be around such things this is why Jesus says “My God my God, why have you forsaken me.” Because for the very First time now Jesus is just a man and died a perfect man. Which is what God knew would have to happen in order for us to be saved a perfect man would have to die. And not so long after that Jesus willingly gives his soul back to the Father so that way the soldiers could not kill him by stabbing him. So therefore this is the only time Jesus became a regular man like us. But in order to go to the Father you must believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God who died for all your sins. Jesus says this if you look back in John 14:5-6 it states “5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” So therefore we can now finally conclude that in order to go to the Father you must believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God and believe that he died for all your sins and rose again.
Please explain the verse where it is said that if prophet desires a woman she shall be divorced and marry him Explain how important is this to religion
@@cloudgil1862 jealous that we have something that has better chain of transmission and context that yours, no wonder why bart D. Ehrman left christianity right after he found out that the writers of the nt and ot had actually changed jesus quates before they make themselves vanished and unknown 😏
Refutations to them 😁😁 alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths Proven by non salafis and slafis «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it says It says in the same page The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
But You and robber got refuted Refutations to them 😁😁 alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths Proven by non salafis and slafis «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it says It says in the same page The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
Do you have references of what he was referring to?? We have clear cut rules for accepting hadiths.. of pleasing others was tge goal , we could've denied tge hadiths (Christians use against us), we stabd our ground.. There's a whole branch of Islamic studies (Science of hadith ) dedicated to authenticate hadith chains , text ... It's a very vast field if you're interested to learn i will give you some examples about how it's done..
Without an attempt: That is, if another hadith is weak or its "chain" (that funny invention of the 9 th century) is broken, then it means that a completely different hadith is also weak, regardless of how it is evaluated... just the kind of logic that islam is full... so everything depends on what the current narrative is. Yap yap. When that narrative is not intact, it must always be moved as needed so that the truth does not show through the holes...
Since you like unreliable sources I have a surprise for you, in the Secret Gospel of John, Jesus says I made Adam and Eve eat from the tree Aka he was Satan But who needs that? Bible itself confirms the Devil is called morning star ( Isaiah 14:12) and the Christian god says I am morning star (Revelation 22:16) The New Testament was manipulated by Satan otherwise why would you worship a man, it is idolatry (Deuteronomy 4:16)
@@Reign-3 Yeah, jump to Bible. Secondly, authentic means unreliable? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have learnt something from Abduls, when they have no answer to their books, they ran to a different book as way of escape 🤣🤣🤣
@@The_Buster01 you got comprehension issues? Or you just love the unreliable sources because your whole religion is built on anonymous self-contradictory Greek novels 😂😂😂
30th crosstian refuted since alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths so you are silenced and you are gone after this comment just like others 😘 Proven by non salafis and slafis😘😘 «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it says It says in the same page The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness". You are gone 😘😘😘😘
The story of the satanic verse is true. You can find the evidences in the Quran, just because the Hadith is disconnected doesn’t mean the story didn’t occur and your early scholars never say it’s a fake story they remained neutral about it. But here you’re making a positive claim that it didn’t happen lol.
29th crosstian refuted clearly alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths so you are silenced and you are gone after this comment just like others 😘 Proven by non salafis and slafis😘😘 «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it says It says in the same page The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness". You are gone 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Just because the sources are doubted and discredited doesn’t make it false. Remember one of the criteria for accepting a true Hadith is if it says good things about the Prophet, if it doesn’t it’s likely to be discredited even if it has some historical truth. Let’s take out the Hadith, The incident’s foot print can be traced in Quran 22:52-53 and Hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:60:385. Three reasons why these inferences can guarantee us that it did happened is 1) Quran 22:52-53 would be false if the satanic verse didn’t happen. Because no prophet from Jewish and Christian traditions was ever possessed by Satan, so it would make sense that Muhammad would be the fulfillment of this verse. 2) According to the Hadith why would the pagans(Meccans) who has been in hostility with Muhammad bcos he cursed their gods, prostrate with him after recitations of the very same chapter(Surah An-Njam) if he didn’t acknowledge their gods? 3) Why did Uthman and Muslims who fled to Ethiopia during Muslims persecution in Mecca returned thinking that the Meccans has converted to Islam? That’s because Muhammad recognized their gods as worthy of worship and they prostrated with Muhammad thinking he has come back to his senses from insulting their their gods. The rumor spread out that the Meccans has converted to Islam. The evidences that supports the satanic verses are stronger than the contrary.
@@truthfinder6538 Shows you are refuted since its proved to weak as i showed 😁😁😁 so lets answrr one by one 😎 1) lie#1-nope i didnt make it criterea for it to say good thing or not rather criteria that if weak report contradict quran in (quran 53:3-4) "Nor does he speak of his own whims. It is only a revelation sent down ˹to him˺." Also in (quran 26:210-212) "It was not the devils who brought this ˹Quran˺ down: it is not for them ˹to do so˺, nor can they, for they are strictly barred from ˹even˺ overhearing ˹it˺." And lie#2 "it does have historical proof" nope rather from historical perspective its false 😁😁😁😁 2) For quran 22:52-53 Lie#3 - : "would be false if it didnt happen" you quoting this gets you in trouble since it says Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations. 3) lie #4 Regarding hadith you brought up "false cause fallacy" here since them prostrating have no direct connection with "satanic verses" As for sujood there are jins who are jins among muslims jins and among them kuffar and no proof you provided that the satans who proatrated where the mushriks 4) this is fallacy again as you said "they wouldnt have accepted if they didn't praiee their God" this is false in do many ways 1st its contradict defintion of tawheed alulohia so its not from islam how can you say they accepted islam. But accepted other god it doesnt make any sense since that would be shirk🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Secondly from historical prspective muslims traveled to Ethiopia in rajab and the surah alnajm revealed in mout ramadan and muslims where in makka at month shawal so it would take 1 mounth to travel so that sincw acccorsing to you they travel because "satanic verses was revealed hoe could it take 1 month during of 7th century using camels and other slow transportation they have Thirdly this didnt happen because the kuffar would have made it hujjah against prophet so this proves you are wrong as they have most animosity towards prophet So yeah this prove it didnt happen😁😁😁
@@entitye6018 Do you know who was Qutham??? He was born after the death of his father, approximately 2-4-6 years after the death of his father, he was abused by his uncle, cousins and others , he fabricated a new religion and named it Islam with help of his wife Khadija and Khadija's cousin and some others. Looted people, raped women and titled himself as Mohammad, prophet, last prophet, so that someone would never put him down, he wanted respect as he was never given in his childhood. Actually, he revenged and succeeded... Today , He is known as prophet Mohammad (SAW) SAW stands for Satanic Aashole Warlord
Isaiah 9:6 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Colossians 1:16-20 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
God sacrificed God to God in order to forgive God's creation from God. God didn't want to die and asked God for help. God forsook God and didn't help God so God's creation tortured and murdered God. God accepted God's sacrifice and forgave God's creation from himself.
11th crosstian exposed here since Alsuyuti is considered mutasahil in correcting hadith so you are refuted and you disappeared after this comment lololollol🤪🤪🤪🤪😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Refuted again beech 😁😁🤪🤪 «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" ابن تيمية (ت728هـ) حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني» I aint easy my b 😁😁😁
@@asharisarejahmis@asharisarejahmis OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!! Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims. You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!? (You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol) You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work. "This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani). Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates: "This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar. In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones. It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics." You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"?? Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too? Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too? To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it.... "Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)." Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol! Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus. You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!! Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my "beech" (you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel :) ) And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
asjaris are not from ahlul sunnah waljama3 since their sources are from 3ilm alkalam and they are called jahmis so u are refuted my beech its over 😘😘😘😘 My b i quoted ahsairs, sunni scholars to prove even asharis thwmselfs cobisder him the ashari alsuyuti as mutasahil 😘😘😘 Plus you quote from alsaqqaf thr well known jahmi
The “Satanic Verses” story is a nice story for these pagans but unfortunately this story is a made up with no chains of narrations. It’s as authentic as deads walking in the city of Jerusalem.😂
@@ViralLaughDaily Christians are retarded. It's Allah that erases your sins and one occation in which he does that is when you do good deeds. 1. When i give charity, Allah erases my sins (it's not the money that does that). 2. When i kiss my mothers forehead out of kindness he erases my sins. (it not my mother that does that) Similarly when you kiss the black stone (which is not obligatory btw), you are following the sunnah (tradition) of the prophet. That's a good deed, so Allah rewards you for that. The black stone is just a stone, it can neither benifit or harm us.
22th christian refuted here since Alsuyuti is welll know and regarded by many scholars to be mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadith so you got exposed and you are gone after this comment 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" ابن تيمية (ت728هـ) حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
@@asharisarejahmis OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!! Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims. You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!? (You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol) You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work. "This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani). Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates: "This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar. In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones. It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics." You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"?? Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too? Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too? To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it.... "Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)." Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol! Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus. You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!! Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my "beech" (you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel :) ) And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
So what you're saying is, ''You can't trust anything in the hadiths because there are too many inauthentics and ambiguous and not sures and we don't know and ... ''. yah, I'm ready to take shehada
Refutations to them 😁 alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths Proven by non salafis and slafis «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it says It says in the same page The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness". So yes christian robber is refuted 😘
@@asharisarejahmis Ok, so what you're saying now is that the hadiths are reliable, even the ones that say that Mo-HAM-head said that the sunsets in a spring of muddy water where it then travels under the earth and lays prostrate under ''allah's'' throne and awaits permission to rise in the east, and one day it won't but will be told to rise in the west? Yes??
The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him married to a young girl (Aisha) r.a but he didn't do anything to her until she was grown, The age of consent 1500 years ago was age 9-11, The age of consent in America 1800 was "Seven years old, in 1700 it was 11 to 12 years old and then the age of consent in America was 14 in 90s, in Japan the age of consent is 13 still. The age of of consent in Great Britain 1500s was 10 and in 1800s it was 12, age of consent in Australia was 12 in 1800s, the age of consent in Europe 1700s 1800s was 12 to 10 years old.. Delaware had an age of consent of 7 in the 1800s. England: In the late 13th century set the age of consent at 12 for girls HERE you sheep following the crowds talking about 1400-1500 years old age consent in 2024 do some research then speak
Did you just show a different Hadith ? The chain of the narration in the Hadith he shows comes from ibn baker “ tabi3i” but the Hadith that rob showed has ibn 3bas in its chain of narration
Five things that Muslims cannot explain without breaking their standard narration: 1. Why is Jesus the only "Al-Masih" in the Quran? Why did Jews wait for the Messiah and why is Jesus the one? What's the role of him as the only Al-Masih? 2. Why is "Injeel" a transliteration of the Greek word "Euangellion" if it was given to Jesus who spoke Aramaic? "Torah" is Hebrew because it was given to Moses. 3. If Jews corrupted the Torah and Christians corrupted the Injeel, why did Muhammad confirm those scriptures? (2:201) Why did Allah confirm their scriptures? (2:41) Those are supposed to be corrupted already at the time of Muhammad. 4. If the Bible of now is corrupted, why do Muslims find the name of Muhammad or the prophecy about Muhammad from a book that is not from God? 5. If the Quran was preserved perfectly by memorization and recitation, why did Zayd have to scavenge around to discover every single piece of written material? Couldn't all the reciters including the closest companions of Muhammad gather together and write down what's in their head?
1. What are you trying to prove? 2. ?? It comes from evangelos which can refer to good news. 3. When did allah affirm the gospels we have today ( the 4 ones) and where did he call the torah intact? 4. The bible is a mix of truth and falsehood which has some truth within it. 5. Zayd himself memorized the entire quran. There needs to be an offical and legal process of finding the quran which becomes binding upon others. Individual companions could have compiled their own but that isn't safe as we don't know if their transmission is reliable until we can get backing from others. Theefore,, zayd's task was to sort of officialize the quran.
@@radirandom 1. I'm trying to prove that the author of the Quran is Muhammad, not God. Just like the term "Allah(Al-Lah, The God)", "Al-Masih" means "The Messiah". If you put "Al" there is only one of it. But there is no explanation in the Quran what it means, what's the role, and why Jesus is the only Messiah. I'm sure that Muhammad, without knowing the meaning and the history of the term, just borrowed the word because every Christian at his time called Jesus the Messiah.
@@radirandom 2. Jesus spoke Aramaic but Allah gave Jesus the revelation that has Greek name? It also proves that the author of the Quran is Muhammad. He just borrowed the word "Euangel(lion)", transliterated, and put it in the Quran. The revelation given to Jesus, according to Islamic standard narration, must have a purely Aramaic name.
@@radirandom 3. According to the standard Islamic narration, the Torah was corrupted by Jews, so Jesus came. And the Injeel was corrupted by Christians, so Muhammad came. Therefore, there were only corrupted Torah and Injeel at the time of Muhammad. Further, both Christians and Muslims agree that Jesus never wrote a book, right? That means the book that Christians were holding at the time of Muhammad isn't actually Injeel. It's just a fabricated story from the disciples, right? Read what your Allah said. 5:43 "But why do they come to you for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment, then they turn away after all? They are not ˹true˺ believers." 5:47 "So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious." 5:66 "And had they observed the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have been overwhelmed with provisions from above and below. Some among them are upright, yet many do nothing but evil." 5:68 "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve."
@@radirandom 4. Neither of your prophet or your Allah said so. Read number 3 regarding what Allah said about the previous scriptures. If the Bible is "partially" true and if you are so confident about it, why don't you read, memorize, and recite these words of God? Where in the Quran does it tell you which part is true?
I thought islam was supposed to be a very simple religion to understand! It seems that there are a lot of exceptions in its jurisprufence just to make sure all aspects if its doctrine us covered!
@@asharisarejahmis Are you sure you trust Al-Suyuti? Shall I quote Al-Suyuti for you? Also, do you mean all of your narrators and scholars were untrustworthy to the extent of swearing by allah to say the Truth but then lied while narrating traditions, which your great scholars even filtered?
@@heir-christian you didnt understand what i said i said alsuyuti is very lineant(mutasahil) in correcting hadith so he is not to be taken here secondly robb lied that he is sunni since Alsuyuti is ashari and sufi extreme in ashari and asharis are not from ahlulsunnah waljama3a so yeah you goy exposed 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
360-359=1(Allah) Abdul Mutalib (grandfather of Mohammad)given his son name Abdullah means “Slave of Allah”...Please note that Abdul Mutalib was a pagan worshipper...So it's clear that Allah was Pagan God among 360 idols worshipped by Quraysh tribe and below verse confirm that Surah Saad 38:5 Has he reduced ˹all˺ the gods to One God? Indeed, this is something totally astonishing.”
Islamophobes have made significant efforts to spread falsehoods about Islam, yet many of their churches are experiencing a sharp decline in attendance, whereas our mosques grew and new reverts embraced Islam have multiplied rapidly. Thousands of these churches have become vacant, and some have even been converted into hotels, bars, and clubs.
Do you have any comprehension problem? Maybe you are christian so don't worry i undersrand, but we with normal brains can understand perfectly what he said.
Hadith is knowledge itself and there are many rules to take hadith and accept one of these rules we need to know the people who told us the hadith if they were trustworthy another one is the one who said it another one is this hadith contradicts with the Qur’an and the messenger and many more in this case this hadith was accepted from who said it but it's not acceptable to work with it
The guy in the video LIED and went to a different hadith. Islam is a religion of demons and lies. Cursed are those who follow it and cursed is their false prophet.
@@junie9417 he doesnt know how to read arbaic we exposed him so bad on that he reads word incorrectly which arabic kindergarten kids can easily read correctly
17th beech exposed here with his robber christina who blocks after getting refuted read pauline 👇 Clearly alsuyuti is regarded as mutasahil(lineant) in correcting hadith by many scholars so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment loooool 😂😂😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@John_Six_Twenty-Ninerefuted already m@ beech «ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206): «فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق والتصحيح» «الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154): «ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل» «إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80): «أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"» «التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129): «قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"» والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29. أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير" ابن تيمية (ت728هـ) حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
Just save yourself the headache and stick to the quran Abd Allah ibn Amr ibn al-As compiled the first hadith collection and he was ashaba kiram Less then 700 hadith called the sahifah al sadiqah. Shortly thereafter. Umar banned hadith and said I don't want the book of god forgotten Let me ask you rumzi if the hadith from the time of the sahaba was the most reliable then why is it extinct today. Allah would have preserved it like the quran was preserved. So why wasn't it ?
16th beech exposed here with his robber christina who blocks after getting refuted read pauline 👇 Clearly alsuyuti is regarded as mutasahil(lineant) in correcting hadith by many scholars so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment loooool 😂😂😂😂😂😘😘😘😘
@@entitye6018no he didn't he contradicted himself the hadiths are authentic but disconnected how does that work that's like saying Muhammad is in the Bible but the Bible is corrupted
@@asharisarejahmis Source: Trust me bro! LOL! You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥 I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads How do you like '13th bee"ch' now???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@seagull6636 oh sorry you are muslim? Didnt suppose to comment that 😳😳 I was commenting to get all christians comming refuted commented accidently to you sorry
At this point it seems they do much more effort leard and find against islam rather than their own religion. I might be very wrong but how I see modern preacher is someone who understood his version of the Bible interpreted as he liked and went preaching. No isnad, no fikh, no kalam, not even other language. This even applies to many christian scholars. Many muslim scholars on top of what they learnt in islam can go and school priests about their own books. This shows something doesn't it. That's why when you ask 3 cristians about their central belief - trinity you get 4 different answers. It is CENTRAL belief!
Dawahoverdaunya Doesn't engage the topic at all as usual. Its not a Christian narrative or agenda, its all from authentic and cherished Muslim sources (Tabari and Ibn Sa’d). The real question, for serios Muslims, to ask is: Why would such trusted/reputable scholars report these things (on the back of Muhammad's claims of Shaitan revelations. 22:52-53)
Muhammad Had No Assurance of Salvation Muslims regularly pray for Allah to bless Muhammad with peace. But why would Muhammad be affected by the prayers of Muslims? The reason is that, according to Islam, even Muhammad didn't know what Allah would do to him after he died (Quran 46:9). But if Muhammad himself had no assurance of salvation, what hope is there for his followers? Surah 46 Al-Ahqaf, Ayat 9-9 قُلۡ مَا كُنۡتُ بِدۡعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَاۤ اَدۡرِىۡ مَا يُفۡعَلُ بِىۡ وَلَا بِكُمۡؕ اِنۡ اَتَّبِعُ اِلَّا مَا يُوۡحٰٓى اِلَىَّ وَمَاۤ اَنَا اِلَّا نَذِيۡرٌ مُّبِيۡنٌ ﴿46:9﴾ (46:9) Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.”12
They'll go through any lengths to twist the truth to support their narrative. I honestly never expected Christian apologetics would be like this.
Me too, dude. All Christians look up to and follow Christian Prince not knowing the immense amount of lies he tells, and also the fact he is very unfair in his debates (essentially “cheating” in a debate using editing and stuff)
@@waterishorrendousHe does not lie.
It is Islam that lies.
Why no honest Muslim talk about the hadith that ask to kill all jews, black dogs and other stupid things like that.
Also no one talks with the fact that there are big historical errors in the Quran...
Muslims just always find a get around because theyre affraid or to Much proud to say "maybe i am wrong"
@@waterishorrendous indeed, CP brings nothing but lies and twist the meaning of Qur'an and or hadith.
Thats why he never want to live debate fairly.
As a former christian i can confirm atleast that I was very vitious and tried to quote anything as possible until i was humbbled and became muslim alhamdulillah
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@@andiachmads7851my brother in Islam cp didn’t lie
because calling him a liar is an understatement can you believe this man brought some random dude named Khalid onto his stupid skype debates and deceived everyone into thinking he was sheikh uthman in the thumbnail he said it was sheikh uthman but my guy didn’t sound nothing like sheikh uthman ibn farooq
There is no word to describe how bad he his and how good he is at deceiving people he might even make Dajjal a tiny bit jealous
I'm not muslim, but I have a love for theology. Your videos are great!
May allah guide you to the truth and anyone who looks for it
@@travisanderson3920stop being mad blud , nobody refutes him or any knowledgable muslim because islam is the truth . Idc what you feel about it but atleast try to search whatever you believe and islam and leave emotions aside
@@travisanderson3920start learning the original language to understand it buddy
Keep coping lil bro@@travisanderson3920
@@travisanderson3920tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night but once u don’t wake up from your slumber gl with what’s to come :)
The only thing I learned from rob and CP is to not try to refute Islam or make an argument while you are intoxicated
LAMO😂😂 YOU NAILED IT
If they like unreliable sources they should check the Secret Gospel of John it says Jesus was the one who made Adam sin
Aka Satan
@@Reign-3man jesus was tempted by the devil in their book ( Matthew 4:1-11 ) aka they should stfu for good
@@KMoon-mf6md LOL thanks
@Bangladesh_Edits Paul should have warned them that eating dirty pork can kill you slowly he always wants the worst for his followers aka the people he misleads and deceived
Allah bless you brother
Reward him with more virgins😂
Typically disbelievers will do ...
Pick something , and never study or understand at all about something that they have picked to fit their opinion.
If they stopped being dishonest they'll be our brothers and sisters in paradise
you just explained islam
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324He explain cristian because cristian pick bible that just only an english translation without the untranslated, every english translation is translate from the untranslated create by translator, soo where is the untranslated?
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 You're trying to flip it around on us and ended up with a contridiction...
Muslims are not disbelievers, having contridictions is a typical part of the Christian faith
very cool hehe
Narrated `Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
In-book reference : Book 78, Hadith 157
بارك الله فيك
How to convert (revert) to Islam
Basically to become a Muslim is very simple.. you need to say the decleration of faith oraly while you believe in it by heart with a firm conviction and unshakeable faith.
The decleration of Faith in Islam (The Shahada)
The Shahada (in Arabic) can be declared as follows :
“ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH”
The English translation is :
“I bear witness that there is no deity (none truly to be worshipped) but, Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.”
@@cloudgil1862 troll number 1 thank you for helping the Algorithm.
@@cloudgil1862 Imagine not loving the man that God specifically chose to spread the message.
dont forget kissing a rock
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 We don’t need to kiss the rock lil bro. You do though. Do your research on the stone of unction that you Christians kiss.
@@agp4580 thexstone of unction?? lol hahaha.
anything to defend your pagan rock kissing cult lol.
what are you gonna tell me next? It's OK to marry a six year old ?
❤❤❤ MashAllah ❤❤❤
Without lies RobChristian dies 😂
Islam dies without lies
Rumzi coward to debate 😅
@@junie9417 You clearly aren't subbed to see his livestreams where ANYBODY can join and debate. Cope harder lil bro.
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Best thing is to set an DEBATE let’s see how’s RUMZI defend the Islam.
@@agp4580
Christians apologist always tagged him but instead of debate, he just hide in his channel and babbling
@@junie9417 Let them come to the open livestream then. What's stopping them?
tank you and love you for the sake of ALLAH swt
What is the difference between a 1st grader and a Christian?
At least a 1st grader knows 1+1+1=3
Trinity doesn't make sense.
Oops I made mistake don't worry I'm edit my comment.
@@mouhmmedadil9782 oh gotcha. I was like ur name is of Muslim but the comment was. Anyways😂
& this is how you know stone kissing muslims have no idea wat they’re talking about 😂, also 7 different quirats = 1 unchanged quran? 😹
really? what is 1x1x1? just curious.
BarakAllahu Feekum
rob Christian giving great medicine.
well it's ok he is prophet.
Bro fr. They are so close minded
@@cloudgil1862 yea? Lol
@@cloudgil1862"they are so close minded" for example this person,
Saying things that he didn't even know.
yes muslims are very close minded, brainwashed, and indoctrinated.
@@cloudgil1862yea like it's not a regular dude it's god
I forgot 🤭
Baraka ALLAHU fik
Mursal hadith just means the tabi'i didn't mention the sahabi they heard from, in many cases mursal hadith are accepted
He is already refuted since السيوطي
Suyuti is well known by many scholars to be regarded as mutasahil in correcting hadiths 😘😘😘
Mursal doesn’t necessitate that the disconnection is between sahabi and tabie. Any disconnection in anywhere in the chain causes the hadith to be classified as mursal. so no you are wrong.
In many cases which means it can’t be as an evidence at his own. It needs other soppurting stronger evidance and this will be used just to clarify in many cases.
In this case he is using it as a standalone evidance
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Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asharisarejahmis
OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!!
Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims.
You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!?
(You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol)
You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work.
"This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani).
Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari
ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS
University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates:
"This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar.
In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones.
It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics."
You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"??
Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too?
Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too?
To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it....
"Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)."
Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol!
Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus.
You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under
I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!!
Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my beech (But don't worry, you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel)
:)
And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
@@alimghazzawi3700 nope read 👇
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
ابن تيمية (ت728هـ)
حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
Imam Al Bayhaqi wrote a book dalail UN nabuwwah which has 3208 Hadiths proving the prophet was a true prophet
Rob Christian responded and addressed this video mate, waiting for your reply!
And hes already been refuted but his argument was weak anyway
@@burakcoskun1865 no Rob Christian did the last response and Ramsi hasn't responded lol Ramsi provided a different Haddith lol
@@cldrawings1224 nope, he already says in the short that the satanic verses r weak theres nothing more to add to it if u cant cope with that thats a you problem
@@burakcoskun1865 who said Ramsi said, so Rob demonstrated it isn't and Ramsi pointed to the wrong Haddith that had different chain of narration and not the same chain of narration to the one Rob showed and Ramsi has been ghosting since then. Something isn't true just because Ramsi said it mate!
@@cldrawings1224 so it isn't because rob said it i just watched the video ue didn't refute shit he just kept on blabbering and repeating the same bs he said before all satanic verses r daif
الحمد لله
Jesus saviour of the world.
ibn Taymiyyah declared it true. That's not surprising though. It's worrying some Sunnis will take his opinion thankfully majority don't.
Did you give the right chain for the right hadith Rumzi?
We'll see
Yes my brother that is the true book of nonsense and non science. Its so sad people waste thier greatest years learning nothing . So very sad😢
These are the worst of the disbelievers. They only learn a certain part of Islam to try and make it look bad. They never learn Islam sincerely.
all you have to do is investigate the history of islam to know it is a wicked evil cult.
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324cap when I look into more of the history the stronger my faith is becoming sadly you’re too blind by hate and arrogance
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324whenever i look at history of islam, i love it more, better that christians who would throw their bible away and admit that the spanish Inquisitions and the crusaders weren't good guys even thou they have followed the doctrines
@@KMoon-mf6md
so you have no problem with the murder and rape and theft and persecution of those the reject islam, got ya,
@@Shal12396 if I'm blinded, it's by the history of Islam, which is still committing gross atrocities today.
Barakallahu feek (Fik) bruh
Rumzi crying in his next video because of the spanking RC gave him here 😢
24th pauline exposed here because Alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in correcting hadith so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment m@ b 😘😘😘😘🤪
@@asharisarejahmisalaah farts when ranzi speak
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@John_Six_Twenty-Nineyou got epzos3d 😘😘😘😘
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
ابن تيمية (ت728هـ)
حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
Good job brother
@@cloudgil1862 You're so angry. Keep leaving comments everywhere. You're great for the algorithm.
@@cloudgil1862 Not gonna respond to my other reply? Coward
The story also appears in biographies of the prophet. Ask yourself why early muslims would have made this up. Muslims, think critically for once.
God created man, cursed man with first sin, comes to earth to die to absolve man from sin. Try applying your critical thinking to this mess...
@@amirtjuh Good thing i dont believe that then isnt it.
@@Mp-cm8tw regardless, save your "critical" thinking for you own convictions mr
@@amirtjuh If only muslims used critical thinking on their "own convictions"
@@jacobantony1040 Jacob, first of all I do not want to be disrespectful. But the way you describe god is anything but righteous. Righteousness is punishing the transgressor. How did god, being righteous, burden all of humanity prior to Jesus with the sin of another man? And how is that fair to them when all who come after Jesus are absolved from this sin so heinous god himself had to come down to absolve humanity of? Christianity in this context makes zero sense. I am not even going to get into Jesus being divine being nonsensical. Being a muslim makes me biased of course but this seems like a fair question.
Even if a hadith is graded shahih by certain imams, it may still have faulty that other imams would grade it differently
May Allah bless brother rumzi for strengthening my Iman with Islam on the daily ❤❤❤❤ May Allah grant you the highest ranks of Jannah, Ameen Ameen brother!
You screwed up bro😂keep trying bro😂😂
Ironically, even if you accepted this story as true, it would still confirm the prophethood of Muhammad SAW
Rob the robber strikes again
🙏🏼
I’m a Christian and their is a big difference between Islam in Christianity. Yes you Islamic people may worship the same God as we Christian’s do. But the only thing you Islamic people get wrong is in order to come or go to the Father you must believe in what his Son Jesus did for you. Jesus is the Son of God, who came down to Earth as God in the flesh. Jesus Christ always existed with the Father it says so in the Bible in Genesis 1:26 it states “[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” And if you look in the New Testament in John 1:1-3 you will see how Jesus always existed with the Father. John 1:1-3 states “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.” The term word is referring to Jesus. Read further to John 1:14 and you will see that I’m right. John 1:14 states “14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” So therefore Jesus always existed with the Father. When Jesus took up flesh and walked the Earth he preached his Father word and preformed many miracles. But every word and miracle he performed was done by his Fathers will and power. Jesus even said it himself. Read John 5:19-23 it states “19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.” This isn’t the only time Jesus says this about himself and the Father. If you read John 14:5-10 it states “5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.” So therefore we can conclude that everything Jesus did was through the Father.
Now I know many of you will say then why did Jesus pray to God if he was God in the Flesh? Let me break it down for you Jesus was man (Body), which means Jesus had a soul, and the Holy Sprit was inside of him which is the Father. So Jesus was God in the Flesh but different then what you Muslims understand. A good example of this is when Jesus was on the Cross. When Jesus was on the Cross he still had the Holy Sprit up until all of humanity’s sin and shame was thrown on him. Once he had done that will the Holy Sprit left him because it can not be around such things this is why Jesus says “My God my God, why have you forsaken me.” Because for the very First time now Jesus is just a man and died a perfect man. Which is what God knew would have to happen in order for us to be saved a perfect man would have to die. And not so long after that Jesus willingly gives his soul back to the Father so that way the soldiers could not kill him by stabbing him. So therefore this is the only time Jesus became a regular man like us. But in order to go to the Father you must believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God who died for all your sins. Jesus says this if you look back in John 14:5-6 it states “5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” So therefore we can now finally conclude that in order to go to the Father you must believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God and believe that he died for all your sins and rose again.
Hmm nice , Rob Christian anderes already in tgis Video. Maybe you have to see It.
I think this is a reupload. But anyways good one brother Rumzi!!
May Allah bless you and your family infinitely in this world and the next!!
I don't think so.
@@Someguy1357 or maybe a part 2?
I can only admire your ability to read the comment you are responding to.
I'm not a linguist but I think it's written in gibberish
Rob Christian robs his gullible audience 😂
Suddenly disconnected???
😅 where is the explanation
@@junie9417go look up the term he used
@@junie9417 what are you even asking for? 🤣
@@junie9417 explation for what ?
@@murgiii9556
Rumzi didn’t explain why those Hadith is disconnected.
Like UTHMAN ketchup FAROOQ who used FOOTNOTES AS HADITH. 🤣🤣🤣
💯💯💯
W
Please explain the verse where it is said that if prophet desires a woman she shall be divorced and marry him
Explain how important is this to religion
What verse is that?
Christians really think that the Hadiths are as perfect as the Quran.
thats not even the worst part
the refutation against this blob was literally in the next paragraph- which he conveniently ignored
@@cloudgil1862lol, the weakest hadith in the two sahihs is much stronger than your bible with no signs that thses verses actually came from jesus😂😂
@@cloudgil1862go and complete your meal that made of god's flesh you cannibals
@@cloudgil1862 jealous that we have something that has better chain of transmission and context that yours, no wonder why bart D. Ehrman left christianity right after he found out that the writers of the nt and ot had actually changed jesus quates before they make themselves vanished and unknown 😏
You believe in a man (Muhammad) that's dead and possibly in hell? I believe in one that sits on the throne YESHUA
Refutations to them 😁😁
alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths
Proven by non salafis and slafis
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it
says
It says in the same page
The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said
that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been
narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
Alhamdulilah
Now this guy buried his prophet🤣
But You and robber got refuted
Refutations to them 😁😁
alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths
Proven by non salafis and slafis
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it
says
It says in the same page
The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said
that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been
narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
@@asharisarejahmis watch the response of rob on this then we will see if you still can laugh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣go watch now
Teach him brother MashaAllah
He answered this vid saying you showed another Hadith
Do you have references of what he was referring to??
We have clear cut rules for accepting hadiths.. of pleasing others was tge goal , we could've denied tge hadiths (Christians use against us), we stabd our ground..
There's a whole branch of Islamic studies (Science of hadith ) dedicated to authenticate hadith chains , text ...
It's a very vast field if you're interested to learn i will give you some examples about how it's done..
Without an attempt: That is, if another hadith is weak or its "chain" (that funny invention of the 9 th century) is broken, then it means that a completely different hadith is also weak, regardless of how it is evaluated... just the kind of logic that islam is full... so everything depends on what the current narrative is. Yap yap. When that narrative is not intact, it must always be moved as needed so that the truth does not show through the holes...
Elaborate? there is no narrative in Islam unlike Christianity that actually changes every couple centuries to accommodate innovations of every century
It's authentic but it's disconnected.. 😂😂😂
His defense basically was "while it can mean this, we don't accept it means this"
@@Eliyah-My_God_is_YHWH It's like saying, "It is white in colour but it's not white" 🤣🤣🤣
Since you like unreliable sources I have a surprise for you, in the Secret Gospel of John, Jesus says I made Adam and Eve eat from the tree
Aka he was Satan
But who needs that? Bible itself confirms the Devil is called morning star ( Isaiah 14:12) and the Christian god says I am morning star (Revelation 22:16)
The New Testament was manipulated by Satan otherwise why would you worship a man, it is idolatry (Deuteronomy 4:16)
@@Reign-3 Yeah, jump to Bible. Secondly, authentic means unreliable? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have learnt something from Abduls, when they have no answer to their books, they ran to a different book as way of escape 🤣🤣🤣
@@The_Buster01 you got comprehension issues? Or you just love the unreliable sources because your whole religion is built on anonymous self-contradictory Greek novels 😂😂😂
Just so you know, usually the footnotes are not the original book they are often added by whoever worked on getting the book printed.
Nice. You just made your whole hadith system untrustworthy. 😂
30th crosstian refuted since alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths so you are silenced and you are gone after this comment just like others 😘
Proven by non salafis and slafis😘😘
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it
says
It says in the same page
The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said
that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been
narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
You are gone 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmisallah farting non stop
@@ng8544watch ur mouth son
@@ng8544Allah means « the one true god » even Arab Christians says Allah
Watch your tongue
@@GiGo-pv6vr lmao keep worshipping moon god
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The story of the satanic verse is true. You can find the evidences in the Quran, just because the Hadith is disconnected doesn’t mean the story didn’t occur and your early scholars never say it’s a fake story they remained neutral about it. But here you’re making a positive claim that it didn’t happen lol.
29th crosstian refuted clearly alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths so you are silenced and you are gone after this comment just like others 😘
Proven by non salafis and slafis😘😘
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it
says
It says in the same page
The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said
that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been
narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
You are gone 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Just because the sources are doubted and discredited doesn’t make it false. Remember one of the criteria for accepting a true Hadith is if it says good things about the Prophet, if it doesn’t it’s likely to be discredited even if it has some historical truth.
Let’s take out the Hadith, The incident’s foot print can be traced in Quran 22:52-53 and Hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:60:385. Three reasons why these inferences can guarantee us that it did happened is 1) Quran 22:52-53 would be false if the satanic verse didn’t happen. Because no prophet from Jewish and Christian traditions was ever possessed by Satan, so it would make sense that Muhammad would be the fulfillment of this verse.
2) According to the Hadith why would the pagans(Meccans) who has been in hostility with Muhammad bcos he cursed their gods, prostrate with him after recitations of the very same chapter(Surah An-Njam) if he didn’t acknowledge their gods?
3) Why did Uthman and Muslims who fled to Ethiopia during Muslims persecution in Mecca returned thinking that the Meccans has converted to Islam? That’s because Muhammad recognized their gods as worthy of worship and they prostrated with Muhammad thinking he has come back to his senses from insulting their their gods. The rumor spread out that the Meccans has converted to Islam.
The evidences that supports the satanic verses are stronger than the contrary.
@@truthfinder6538 Shows you are refuted since its proved to weak as i showed 😁😁😁 so lets answrr one by one 😎
1) lie#1-nope i didnt make it criterea for it to say good thing or not rather criteria that if weak report contradict quran in (quran 53:3-4)
"Nor does he speak of his own whims.
It is only a revelation sent down ˹to him˺."
Also in (quran 26:210-212)
"It was not the devils who brought this ˹Quran˺ down: it is not for them ˹to do so˺, nor can they, for they are strictly barred from ˹even˺ overhearing ˹it˺."
And
lie#2 "it does have historical proof" nope rather from historical perspective its false 😁😁😁😁
2)
For quran 22:52-53
Lie#3 - : "would be false if it didnt happen" you quoting this gets you in trouble since it says Allah would eliminate Satan’s influence. Then Allah would ˹firmly˺ establish His revelations.
3) lie #4
Regarding hadith you brought up "false cause fallacy" here since them prostrating have no direct connection with "satanic verses"
As for sujood there are jins who are jins among muslims jins and among them kuffar and no proof you provided that the satans who proatrated where the mushriks
4) this is fallacy again as you said "they wouldnt have accepted if they didn't praiee their God" this is false in do many ways 1st its contradict defintion of tawheed alulohia so its not from islam how can you say they accepted islam. But accepted other god it doesnt make any sense since that would be shirk🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Secondly from historical prspective muslims traveled to Ethiopia in rajab and the surah alnajm revealed in mout ramadan and muslims where in makka at month shawal so it would take 1 mounth to travel so that sincw acccorsing to you they travel because "satanic verses was revealed hoe could it take 1 month during of 7th century using camels and other slow transportation they have
Thirdly this didnt happen because the kuffar would have made it hujjah against prophet so this proves you are wrong as they have most animosity towards prophet
So yeah this prove it didnt happen😁😁😁
So, islam is disconnected!
Thanks Abdool!
Nothing of substance you said
@@Muwahid999 there's nothing of substance in Islam! Just plain nonsense!
Skibidy toilet would
Have been a better argument
Qutham the son of the slave of Al Lat 😂😂😂😂
Was the holy spirit drunk when he told you that?
@@entitye6018 Do you know who was Qutham??? He was born after the death of his father, approximately 2-4-6 years after the death of his father, he was abused by his uncle, cousins and others , he fabricated a new religion and named it Islam with help of his wife Khadija and Khadija's cousin and some others. Looted people, raped women and titled himself as Mohammad, prophet, last prophet, so that someone would never put him down, he wanted respect as he was never given in his childhood. Actually, he revenged and succeeded... Today , He is known as prophet Mohammad (SAW) SAW stands for Satanic Aashole Warlord
@@entitye6018Was Muhammad drunk when Shaytan possessed him to think he was having sex with his child wives?
@@entitye6018Was Muhammad drunk off the camel urine he is now drinking in Jahnnaam?
Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Colossians 1:16-20
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
God sacrificed God to God in order to forgive God's creation from God. God didn't want to die and asked God for help. God forsook God and didn't help God so God's creation tortured and murdered God. God accepted God's sacrifice and forgave God's creation from himself.
@@bektas1453Misrepresentation of the Doctrine of the Trinity, Ya Abdool
@@bektas1453 YES. He did this for you because he loves you. He is also omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient
@@ZEN_180 the Trinity which God or Jesus never talked about and your church invented yes.
@@LS-ii3fy didn't know an omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient God could be murdered and killed by his own creation, that is absolute nonsense.
Thats a whole different book bro you was exposed already...its authentic but its disconnected?? 😂😂😂😂😂
It is the same book bruh, u blind?
@@kamroneshkqobilov1040 na man you need to check
@@mikedj9025 check what bruh it is the same book at the next page.
@@kamroneshkqobilov1040 ok sure no problem
I can’t wait for Rob Christian to reply over his “disconnected hadiths,” this gon be interesting.
Christians 😂😂😂😂
@@cloudgil1862does even mock us, you paul meat riders
paulinas 😂😂
@@cloudgil1862paulinas 😂😂😂😂
The good old Beyhaqqi(r) never let's Muslims down!
11th crosstian exposed here since Alsuyuti is considered mutasahil in correcting hadith so you are refuted and you disappeared after this comment lololollol🤪🤪🤪🤪😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Refuted again beech 😁😁🤪🤪
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
ابن تيمية (ت728هـ)
حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
I aint easy my b 😁😁😁
@@asharisarejahmis@asharisarejahmis
OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!!
Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims.
You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!?
(You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol)
You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work.
"This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani).
Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari
ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS
University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates:
"This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar.
In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones.
It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics."
You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"??
Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too?
Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too?
To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it....
"Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)."
Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol!
Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus.
You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under
I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!!
Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my "beech" (you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel :) ) And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
asjaris are not from ahlul sunnah waljama3 since their sources are from 3ilm alkalam and they are called jahmis so u are refuted my beech its over 😘😘😘😘
My b i quoted ahsairs, sunni scholars to prove even asharis thwmselfs cobisder him the ashari alsuyuti as mutasahil 😘😘😘
Plus you quote from alsaqqaf thr well known jahmi
The “Satanic Verses” story is a nice story for these pagans but unfortunately this story is a made up with no chains of narrations. It’s as authentic as deads walking in the city of Jerusalem.😂
Kissing a black stone will not erase your sins.
@@ViralLaughDailyNor does worshiping a finite limited human being that got killed by its creation but that seems logical according to you?
You are embarrassed that your fake prophet uttered the wirds of satan. 😢😂
@@ViralLaughDaily Christians are retarded. It's Allah that erases your sins and one occation in which he does that is when you do good deeds.
1. When i give charity, Allah erases my sins (it's not the money that does that).
2. When i kiss my mothers forehead out of kindness he erases my sins. (it not my mother that does that)
Similarly when you kiss the black stone (which is not obligatory btw), you are following the sunnah (tradition) of the prophet. That's a good deed, so Allah rewards you for that.
The black stone is just a stone, it can neither benifit or harm us.
@@aquariusn6496 Why would I be embarrassed about something that didn’t even happened?!🤡
Not everyone is like ur Paul the deceiver.😂
Now sahih means trash. Thanks for the info 😂😂😂😂😂
22th christian refuted here since Alsuyuti is welll know and regarded by many scholars to be mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadith so you got exposed and you are gone after this comment 😘😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You m@ beech exposes in my first comment 😁😁😁😁
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
ابن تيمية (ت728هـ)
حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
@@asharisarejahmis
OK let me get this straight -you appeal to Ibn Taymiyyah to dismiss Asharis, you practically call them Sufis, who you basically called fake Muslims....yet there's no way in hell you'll accept Ibn Taymiyyah's views on the Satanic verses loooool!!
Then you appeal to Al-Alusi, a Sufi, a group you just basically called fake Muslims.
You appeal to Al-Ghumari......wait!! Another Sufi??? Are you serious?!?
(You're making Islam the fastest shrinking religion by the way lol)
You appeal to Al-Albani - How did his investigation go by the way? Did he release it to the people? Anyway, you like scholars, I'll let scholars talk about his work.
"This short piece of work has been edited and abridged from the four volume set which emphatically and clearly outlines al-Albani's mistakes, contradictions, slanders and even lies in the honourable and sacred Islamic Science of Hadith (Uloom al Hadith), by the well known scholar, Al-Shaykh Hasan ibn Ali al-Saqqaf (may Allah reward him for his effort) of Amman, Jordan; from his work entitled: "Tanaqadat al-Albani al-Wadihat" (The Clear Contradictions of al-Albani).
Shaykh Saqqaf is a contemporary Shafi'i scholar of Hadith and Fiqh. His Shaykh's include Hashim Majdhub of Damascus in Shafi'i Fiqh, Muti' Hammami in estate division, Muhammad Hulayyil of Amman in Arabic Grammar, and he has been given written authorization (Ijaza) in the field of Hadith from one of the greatest Hadith scholars of our time - Shaykh Abdullah Muhammad al-Ghimari
ASIM MOHAMED MUBARAK FARHAN, Prof. Dr. ABDULSAME MOHAMMED ALANIS
University of Sharjah, United Arab Emirates:
"This research tries to discuss the hadiths that were judged by the situation of both sheikhs Al-Ghumari and Al-Albani, contrary to that Imam Al-Suyuti, who stipulated to himself that he does not mention in his book (The Small Mosque) a hadith that is unique to his narrator as a liar.
In this research, I mentioned examples of hadiths judged by Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari with an explanation of the reason for their difference in judging the hadith, and discussed the evidence and showed the most correct ones.
It has appeared to me that the approach of Al-Suyuti had a great impact in judging the hadith, where he was reporting the hadith and be judging on another way to talk with its meaning, or considering its evidence, It also appeared to me that the hadiths that Al-Albani and Al-Ghumari judged to be fabricated are not agreed upon by the critics."
You cite Al-Munawa who said "the author has included many weak hadiths"??
Newsflash!! All your books contain weak hadiths! Are all the hadiths in Sahih Muslim authentic? Bukhari? Al-Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah etc etc - are they to be called mutasahil too?
Is Tafsir Jalalayn off your book collection too?
To be fair, Al-Suyuti himself was at it....
"Imams al-Nawawi and al-Suyuti in his Taqrib and Tadrib al-Rawi Fi Sharh Taqrib al-Nawawi both held the view that Imam al-Hakim was lenient. al-Suyuti even went onto say that Imam al-Dhahabi rendered many of al-Hakims hadith in his al-Mustadrak weak and even compiled a treatise of around 100 fabricated narrations. This all indicates towards th leniency of Imam al-Hakim (Tadrib al-Raw 1:112. (Riyadh: Dar al-Taybah, 1422H) 5th edition ed. Abu Qutaybah Nazar Muhammad al-Faryabi)."
Imagine being the type of person to call others too lenient then being accused of it yourself! lol!
Anyway, It's not a problem for me. It's your clowns, your circus.
You might need a bus company to throw all your scholars under
I guess it makes sense in the world of Islam, where you can reject Hafs's hadith but accept his Quran lol!!
Unfortunately for you, you will always remain my "beech" (you're in good company - I've got at least 50 on this channel :) ) And your fake, Satanic verses reciting (and I mean the WHOLE Quran) 'prophet' will remain under the feet of Jesus forever
Jesus is God .Jesus is a way to heaven
So what you're saying is, ''You can't trust anything in the hadiths because there are too many inauthentics and ambiguous and not sures and we don't know and ... ''. yah, I'm ready to take shehada
Refutations to them 😁
alsuyuti is considered mutasahil(very lineant) in regards to correcting hadiths
Proven by non salafis and slafis
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
This is the narration of Ibn Abbas and Saeed Bin Jubair which Rob christian stated and it is unauthentic as we see in the book "Fath AlMunim Sharh Sahih Muslim Vol.3 Page 246 it
says
It says in the same page
The Muhaddiths and Hadith graders said
that this story of Al Gharaaneeq has been
narrated 3 ways, and not a single way of thiss tory is narrated authenticity. The first isnado f narrated by ibn abbas, the narratorh imself was in doubt() about it(narration of ibn abbas) as he said regarding himself,he either doubted that the hadith was Marfu, so he concluded that it isMawqoof(only be a sahabi and didn't reachthe prophet) or it can be connected but stillMursal(a hadith where the chain only goesup to a tabi'ee), and both either way are note Evidence for the narrations of gharaneeq to be authentic especially since the hadith has a slander against the prophets of Allah, and ift he hadith was both marfoo and connected it Could still be a mistake and forgetfulness".
So yes christian robber is refuted 😘
@@asharisarejahmis
Ok, so what you're saying now is that the hadiths are reliable, even the ones that say that Mo-HAM-head said that the sunsets in a spring of muddy water where it then travels under the earth and lays prostrate under ''allah's'' throne and awaits permission to rise in the east, and one day it won't but will be told to rise in the west? Yes??
How about give your 6 years old to ur maulvi
The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him married to a young girl (Aisha) r.a but he didn't do anything to her until she was grown, The age of consent 1500 years ago was age
9-11, The age of consent in America
1800 was "Seven years old, in 1700 it was 11 to 12 years old and then the age of consent in America was 14 in 90s, in Japan the age of consent is 13 still. The age of of consent in Great Britain 1500s was 10 and in 1800s it was 12, age of consent in Australia was 12 in 1800s, the age of consent in Europe 1700s 1800s was 12 to 10 years old..
Delaware had an age of consent of 7 in
the 1800s.
England: In the late 13th century set the age of consent at 12 for girls HERE you sheep following the crowds talking about
1400-1500 years old age consent in
2024 do some research then speak
Its only authentic if it doesn't embarrass Mo Mo
Are you actually dumb ? If we think like that then we would just remove the aisha age
Rumzi should get a refund on his degree in Muslims lying 😂
Stop making fun of my bro 😡
Did you just show a different Hadith ? The chain of the narration in the Hadith he shows comes from ibn baker “ tabi3i” but the Hadith that rob showed has ibn 3bas in its chain of narration
Five things that Muslims cannot explain without breaking their standard narration:
1. Why is Jesus the only "Al-Masih" in the Quran? Why did Jews wait for the Messiah and why is Jesus the one? What's the role of him as the only Al-Masih?
2. Why is "Injeel" a transliteration of the Greek word "Euangellion" if it was given to Jesus who spoke Aramaic? "Torah" is Hebrew because it was given to Moses.
3. If Jews corrupted the Torah and Christians corrupted the Injeel, why did Muhammad confirm those scriptures? (2:201) Why did Allah confirm their scriptures? (2:41) Those are supposed to be corrupted already at the time of Muhammad.
4. If the Bible of now is corrupted, why do Muslims find the name of Muhammad or the prophecy about Muhammad from a book that is not from God?
5. If the Quran was preserved perfectly by memorization and recitation, why did Zayd have to scavenge around to discover every single piece of written material? Couldn't all the reciters including the closest companions of Muhammad gather together and write down what's in their head?
1. What are you trying to prove?
2. ?? It comes from evangelos which can refer to good news.
3. When did allah affirm the gospels we have today ( the 4 ones) and where did he call the torah intact?
4. The bible is a mix of truth and falsehood which has some truth within it.
5. Zayd himself memorized the entire quran.
There needs to be an offical and legal process of finding the quran which becomes binding upon others.
Individual companions could have compiled their own but that isn't safe as we don't know if their transmission is reliable until we can get backing from others.
Theefore,, zayd's task was to sort of officialize the quran.
@@radirandom 1. I'm trying to prove that the author of the Quran is Muhammad, not God. Just like the term "Allah(Al-Lah, The God)", "Al-Masih" means "The Messiah". If you put "Al" there is only one of it. But there is no explanation in the Quran what it means, what's the role, and why Jesus is the only Messiah. I'm sure that Muhammad, without knowing the meaning and the history of the term, just borrowed the word because every Christian at his time called Jesus the Messiah.
@@radirandom 2. Jesus spoke Aramaic but Allah gave Jesus the revelation that has Greek name? It also proves that the author of the Quran is Muhammad. He just borrowed the word "Euangel(lion)", transliterated, and put it in the Quran. The revelation given to Jesus, according to Islamic standard narration, must have a purely Aramaic name.
@@radirandom 3. According to the standard Islamic narration, the Torah was corrupted by Jews, so Jesus came. And the Injeel was corrupted by Christians, so Muhammad came. Therefore, there were only corrupted Torah and Injeel at the time of Muhammad.
Further, both Christians and Muslims agree that Jesus never wrote a book, right? That means the book that Christians were holding at the time of Muhammad isn't actually Injeel. It's just a fabricated story from the disciples, right?
Read what your Allah said.
5:43 "But why do they come to you for judgment when they ˹already˺ have the Torah containing Allah’s judgment, then they turn away after all? They are not ˹true˺ believers."
5:47 "So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious."
5:66 "And had they observed the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have been overwhelmed with provisions from above and below. Some among them are upright, yet many do nothing but evil."
5:68 "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve."
@@radirandom 4. Neither of your prophet or your Allah said so. Read number 3 regarding what Allah said about the previous scriptures.
If the Bible is "partially" true and if you are so confident about it, why don't you read, memorize, and recite these words of God? Where in the Quran does it tell you which part is true?
I thought islam was supposed to be a very simple religion to understand! It seems that there are a lot of exceptions in its jurisprufence just to make sure all aspects if its doctrine us covered!
Hahaha 😂, you said no Sahih, now you say disconnected when you're shown it's Sahih...😅
But m@ b you are refuted as al su yuti is mutasahil in correcting hadith so you are exposed and you are gone after this Lool 😘😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis Are you sure you trust Al-Suyuti? Shall I quote Al-Suyuti for you?
Also, do you mean all of your narrators and scholars were untrustworthy to the extent of swearing by allah to say the Truth but then lied while narrating traditions, which your great scholars even filtered?
@@heir-christian you didnt understand what i said i said alsuyuti is very lineant(mutasahil) in correcting hadith so he is not to be taken here secondly robb lied that he is sunni since Alsuyuti is ashari and sufi extreme in ashari and asharis are not from ahlulsunnah waljama3a so yeah you goy exposed 😘😘😘😘
@@heir-christianwth 🙄
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
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360-359=1(Allah)
Abdul Mutalib (grandfather of Mohammad)given his son name Abdullah means “Slave of Allah”...Please note that Abdul Mutalib was a pagan worshipper...So it's clear that Allah was Pagan God among 360 idols worshipped by Quraysh tribe and below verse confirm that
Surah Saad 38:5
Has he reduced ˹all˺ the gods to One God? Indeed, this is something totally astonishing.”
Islamophobes have made significant efforts to spread falsehoods about Islam, yet many of their churches are experiencing a sharp decline in attendance, whereas our mosques grew and new reverts embraced Islam have multiplied rapidly. Thousands of these churches have become vacant, and some have even been converted into hotels, bars, and clubs.
Wait how can a disconnected chain be sahih. Isnt what makes a narration chain sahih the fact that it is connected.
LOL he admits its sahih but tries to play it off. Islam is finished.
Not really.
Do you have any comprehension problem? Maybe you are christian so don't worry i undersrand, but we with normal brains can understand perfectly what he said.
IKR! It's done for, that's why they're decreasing in number!
Oh wait, my mistake. That's Christianity 😇
Please watch the video
Congratulations, you didn’t watch the video. The chain is disconnected.
So Ibn taymiyyab was wrong in defending rhisnhadithband making sense of it ?
They’re always planning their own humiliation.
Whenever a book doesn't match what they want to hear, they say it's corrupt or inauthentic 😂
There are many inauthentic hadith that we want, but blocked by inauthentism
Without lies Islam dies !
Disconnected. O wow.
Hadith is knowledge itself and there are many rules to take hadith and accept one of these rules we need to know the people who told us the hadith if they were trustworthy another one is the one who said it another one is this hadith contradicts with the Qur’an and the messenger and many more in this case this hadith was accepted from who said it but it's not acceptable to work with it
pick and choose religion of peace lmao
Without lies Christianity dies.
Truth will Rise n falsehood will perish.
Without lies islam dies
The guy litteraly lied in the video, he went to a diffrent hadith
ruclips.net/video/nCYgbsyoJPw/видео.html
The guy in the video LIED and went to a different hadith.
Islam is a religion of demons and lies. Cursed are those who follow it and cursed is their false prophet.
@@ng8544
I actually agree with you, if Christianity wasn't a lie then Islam wouldn't come to correct it
Miskeen, wallahi miskeen!😂😂😂😂
Disconnected??
Best is to Debate with Rob Christian 😅
7th beech exposed here since Al-soyoti is mutasahil in coreecting hadiths so you are silenced and you are gone after this comment lmao🤣🤣🤣 😘😘
@@asharisarejahmis
Best to debate #Robchristian who knows Arabic
@@junie9417 tell your side chick christian robber to ublock me first beech 😘😘😘😘
@@junie9417 he doesnt know how to read arbaic we exposed him so bad on that he reads word incorrectly which arabic kindergarten kids can easily read correctly
@@asharisarejahmis
Really?? Let’s wait the reply.
Tag me if you can debate him or Christian prince in Arabic
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Rob refuted you again on your lies
you quoted the different Hadith in this video 🤦
Come on atleast refute the real thing 😂
17th beech exposed here with his robber christina who blocks after getting refuted read pauline 👇
Clearly alsuyuti is regarded as mutasahil(lineant) in correcting hadith by many scholars so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment loooool 😂😂😘😘
You don't even know what are you talking about
Rob clown got schooled, accept while crying to your cursed god
@@asharisarejahmisallah farts when sheik shakes
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
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@@John_Six_Twenty-Ninerefuted already m@ beech
«ضعيف أبي داود - الأم» (1/ 206):
«فلا يعتمد عليها، لا سيما وأن السيوطي نفسه متساهل في التوثيق
والتصحيح»
«الصحيح المسند من أسباب النزول» (ص154):
«ونحن الآن متوقفون من الحكم عليه لأن السيوطي رحمه الله متساهل»
«إسعاف اللبيث بفتاوى الحديث» (2/ 80):
«أنَّ السِّيُوطيَّ صحَّحه!! فرُبَّما نَظَرَ السِّيُوطيُّ إلى رواية ابنِ حِبَّانَ، وأهمَلَ تدليس ابن جُريجٍ، والسِّيوطيُّ مُتساهِلٌ كما هو مَعلُومٌ»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«وقال الغماري في المُغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير عن السيوطي: "ومنها أحاديث لم يَظن هو أنها موضوعة؛ لأنه متساهلٌ في ذلك غاية التساهل، فلا يكاد يحكم على حديثٍ بالوضع إلا إذا دعته الضرورة إلى ذلك وما عدا ذلك فإنه يتساهل في إيراد الحديث الموضوع، بل وفي الاحتجاج به أيضاً"»
«التنوير شرح الجامع الصغير» (1/ 129):
«قال المناوي في تعقباته على السيوطي في شرحه للجامع الصغير (1/ 40): " … وقد أكثر المؤلّف في هذا (الجامع الصغير) من الأحاديث الضعيفة"»
والسيوطي رحمه الله كان فيما ألفه من الكتب حاطب ليل، في كل كتاب له مذهب ومشرب، وما أتى به في كتابه هذا لا يعول عليه، كما سيرد عليك مردودا وذكر الشيخ الألباني في كتابه "تمام المنة" ص: 29.
أن السيوطي معروف بتساهله في التصحيح والتضعيف، فالأحاديث التي صححها أو حسنها، وفيها قسم كبير قد ردها عليه الشارح المناوي، وهي تبلغ المئات، إن لم نقل أكثر من ذلك، وكذلك وقع فيه أحاديث كثيرة موضوعة، مع أنه قال في مقدمته: وصنته عما تفرد به وضاع أو كذَّاب، وقد تتبعتها بصورة سريعة، وهي تبلغ الألف -تزيد قليلاً أو تنقص كذلك- وأرجو أن أوفق لإعادة النظر فيها وإجراء قلم التحقيق عليها، وإخراجها للناس. ومن الغريب أن قسماً غير قليل فيها شهد السيوطي نفسه بوضعها في غير هذا الكتاب، فهذا كله يجعل الثقة به ضيقة، نسأل الله العصمة، ثم يسر الله تبارك وتعالى فجعلت "الجامع الصغير وزياداته" المسمى بـ "الفتح الكبير في ضم الزيادة إلى الجامع الصغير"
ابن تيمية (ت728هـ)
حكى بنفسهفي [التسعينية (1/ 118)]«جاءنا هذان الرسولان بورقة كتبها لهم المُحَكَّم من القضاة أبو الحسن علي بن مخلوف المالكي» وهذا أشعري من تلامذة العز بن عبد السلام، فأرسا ابن تيمية الجواب له، فعادا قال: « ثم رجعا، ولم يأتيا بكلام محصل إلا طلب الحضور، فأغلظت لهم في الجواب، وقلت لهم بصوت رفيع: يا مبدلين،يا مرتدين عن الشريعة، يازنادقة، وكلامًا آخر كثيرًا، ثم قمت وطلبت فتح الباب والعود إلى مكاني»
What does that mean? Are they sahih now or not? If not, Why? If yes, how?
Sam Shamoun watch him he will beat this guy , idk how you can back up a 54 year old man having sex with a 9 year old girl not even on her period 😅
She 19
And she hit her period either way.
@@fodist-1923 wow as if you think that’s oka
@@JoekanonKanon has it was ok that mother of Jesus christ was a teen when she got impregnated by Jesus.
You tell me how a 90 years old marry 11 years old and your god somehow have a child with it
Just save yourself the headache and stick to the quran
Abd Allah ibn Amr ibn al-As compiled the first hadith collection and he was ashaba kiram
Less then 700 hadith called the sahifah al sadiqah. Shortly thereafter. Umar banned hadith and said I don't want the book of god forgotten
Let me ask you rumzi if the hadith from the time of the sahaba was the most reliable then why is it extinct today.
Allah would have preserved it like the quran was preserved. So why wasn't it ?
RC destroy u again 😂😂😂😂😂
16th beech exposed here with his robber christina who blocks after getting refuted read pauline 👇
Clearly alsuyuti is regarded as mutasahil(lineant) in correcting hadith by many scholars so you are exposed and you are gone after this comment loooool 😂😂😂😂😂😘😘😘😘
Why are you trying to deceive yourself ?😂 The man taught RC the basics
@@entitye6018no he didn't he contradicted himself the hadiths are authentic but disconnected how does that work that's like saying Muhammad is in the Bible but the Bible is corrupted
@@asharisarejahmisallah farts when a muslim poop
@@asharisarejahmis
Source: Trust me bro!
LOL!
You need to give a reference or else we have to assume you are lying just like when you said Asharis are not Sunni 🤥🤥🤥🤥
I have glowing references for Al-Suyuti. I can provide them if you like (I mean, dont get me wrong I personally think ALL Muhammed-idolosing scholars are Satanic) but since you are bringing up the claim of mutasahil, you need to provide the source
But you are silenced and are running away from this comment LMFAO!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
btw I'm going to post this under everyone of your replies in the different threads
How do you like '13th bee"ch' now????
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Its in the tafsir Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi 53:19-20
It's does now all of a sudden theres fake hadith. You and you sad stories
No m@ b since Alsuyuti is considered mutasahil in correcting hadith so you are exposed and yoy are gone after this Lool🤪🤪🤪😘😘😘
If it is fabricated it didnt happen, do you not understand such a basic concept?
@@seagull6636 oh sorry you are muslim?
Didnt suppose to comment that 😳😳
I was commenting to get all christians comming refuted commented accidently to you sorry
@@asharisarejahmis no no im not the original commenter the guy who posted was whining about hadith. I was replying to him as well
@@seagull6636 oh ok
At this point it seems they do much more effort leard and find against islam rather than their own religion.
I might be very wrong but how I see modern preacher is someone who understood his version of the Bible interpreted as he liked and went preaching. No isnad, no fikh, no kalam, not even other language.
This even applies to many christian scholars. Many muslim scholars on top of what they learnt in islam can go and school priests about their own books. This shows something doesn't it. That's why when you ask 3 cristians about their central belief - trinity you get 4 different answers. It is CENTRAL belief!
Rob Christian is an Arab aswell he’s just misleading his own subs 😂😂😂
@@cloudgil1862you let shaitan whisper to your ear n make stupid claim
@@jacobantony1040 he hasn’t even got to e guts to show his. Hiding behind a screen 😂
What does "disconnected" mean in this context?
The chains of narration doesn't connect to the Prophet Muhammad or his companions
@@Rizvi-2 thank you
Dawahoverdaunya Doesn't engage the topic at all as usual. Its not a Christian narrative or agenda, its all from authentic and cherished Muslim sources (Tabari and Ibn Sa’d). The real question, for serios Muslims, to ask is: Why would such trusted/reputable scholars report these things (on the back of Muhammad's claims of Shaitan revelations. 22:52-53)
Muhammad Had No Assurance of Salvation
Muslims regularly pray for Allah to bless Muhammad with peace. But why would Muhammad be affected by the prayers of Muslims? The reason is that, according to Islam, even Muhammad didn't know what Allah would do to him after he died (Quran 46:9). But if Muhammad himself had no assurance of salvation, what hope is there for his followers?
Surah 46 Al-Ahqaf, Ayat 9-9
قُلۡ مَا كُنۡتُ بِدۡعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَاۤ اَدۡرِىۡ مَا يُفۡعَلُ بِىۡ وَلَا بِكُمۡؕ اِنۡ اَتَّبِعُ اِلَّا مَا يُوۡحٰٓى اِلَىَّ وَمَاۤ اَنَا اِلَّا نَذِيۡرٌ مُّبِيۡنٌ ﴿46:9﴾
(46:9) Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.”12
You know Allah is Quoting that speech of Muhammad PBUH, anyways we send salutation to Prophet Muhammad to get blessings from Allah