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Regardless of his intentions being innocent, you cannot ignore the fact that it was unprofessional. It doesn't matter whether he is Black, White, Male or Female.
Why is it that you guys cannot see that there should be boundaries between teacher and student relationships and this was completely unethical and unacceptable. Let him go to a salon and pay them outside of work and not use these young impressionable girls for clout.
You can't defend wrong just because he is a Black man. Wrong is wrong period.
My thoughts exactly!
Why is it unprofessional?
Looks fine to me
@@NovocaineBeats So u the type send ur kid to school to learn instead She does ur teacher's hair & starts texting Him on snapchat? but it's okay cuz He is Her teacher lol u just as sick as these 3 on the channel
I’m not sending my children to school to put their hands in ANY teachers hair! For me it’s boundaries! Man nor woman, my kids are sent to school to learn! BOUNDARIES!!! It’s not even sexual for me, JUST NO!!!
I agree
Exactly…..
Absolutely. He's looking a little too relaxed. Almost like a harem. It's very uncomfortable to watch knowing he's their teacher.
Precisely
None of the panel have children. Boundaries are in place for a reason.
I don’t have children but I know that this was wrong.
I have children and I have been a teacher for 15 years. At most a write-up and a conversation should have happened. This was extreme
It's very obvious none of them are parents.
Claudie's clueless, valley girl "Like OMG, what's so wrong??"" attitude is so cringey.
@@myishabrown1071it's a slippery slope. If he thinks THIS is appropriate, what's next??
I’m more disappointed in Al being the only one who’s an educator himself!😡 This is not appropriate behavior for anyone who is an educator. Especially when we still see teachers taking sexual advances against our children! WTH is there problem thinking this is ok!!
IT IS NOT SEXUALIZED. IT IS JUST INAPPROPRIATE. NO ADULT SHOULD BE TOUCHING KIDS AND NO KIDS SHOULD BE TOUCHING TEACHERS
I just said the same. In my opinion, this is grooming.
So you can’t hug or give a pat on the back or a handshake high five
And notice it's all female students. He's old enough to realize that girls that age get crushes. Imo he was loving the attention a little too much.
@@TreasureChest0806THATS the extent.
Is there an age restriction on this? Because I hug all my kindergarten kids.... My daughter's 3rd grade teacher hugs her kids. It's it because they are high school? I remember hugging my high school teachers .... High fives, dap's etc.
Boundaries exist for a reason. Maybe this man’s intentions were pure but the school can’t take that risk. If something highly inappropriate happened between this teacher and one of his students, everyone would say this video was the first sign that something was going on.
Also if a kid gets obsessed with him and starts imaging a romantic relationship with him. That teacher would have no way of proving otherwise because of his lack of boundaries!
Please put someone on the panel that has children!!!!!!
It’s a bridge to other inappropriate behavior!!!! People who have never raised other people!
@@choconethotcoco4717 You pointed out the elephant in the room, while I don't feel like he should've been terminated (perhaps a write up) & maybe the entire situation is 100 percent innocent in regards to intentions the reality is that children have feelings, children can also get sexually aroused around their Adult crushes or they can become aroused even when it's nothing inappropriate going on because children especially at those girls ages tend to be very hormonal & it's just too risky for all parties involved in my humble opinion, the school did what it felt was necessary, personally if it was my child (knowing what I know about child crushes that tend to start off innocent & hormonal young people who's brains aren't yet fully developed) I wouldn't want to see him lose his position but I definitely would not want my child playing in no grown man's hair at school!
Edit: I also agree that it would have been better for dude (since he's also a social media influencer) to have written consent from both the students & their parents/guardians prior to recording the students & uploading them on social media
It’s almost always the “cool” teacher being caught with a student. At the very least it’s giving clout chasing off the students. He can go be a tik tokker now. Bye sir ✌️
I’m a teacher and it was ABSOLUTELY inappropriate. I would say the same of any teacher regardless of race or gender.
Thank you! I can't believe we live in a time where inappropriate behavior gets justified. No education just unlearned children, and people wonder why some races are behind.
Fully agree
I'm a teacher as well and I absolutely agree with you. This was so very inappropriate.
As an educator I found nothing he did wrong. If I got the parent consent and he applied this into the curriculum he was not wrong. The world so screwed up if they all were gay students then what would have been said🤦🏾♀️
@anneyoung287 With all due respect, you have to really use wisdom here. Regardless of the situation, the children are there to get knowledge and education. Girls this age also harbor crushes; so, anything can develop. It's called grooming. I understand you see the innocence in it; however, this is how boundaries get crossed; and we all know, once boundaries are crossed, disrespect comes flooding in. But, I do want to acknowledge your point; just think about the world we live in today. Things escalate quickly.
Y'all need to STOP making excuses about this teacher's lack of boundaries! Each case is different and you need to think an treat them that way. If the teacher has these close relationships with ALL of his students in the class then WHY WAS ONLY THE GIRLS TAKING DOWN HIS HAIR!!! There is no PROPER boundaries with the teacher but that doesn't mean he needs to be fired. It means he needed to be taught proper boundaries. I've seen young teachers new to teaching not establish proper boundaries and kids get obsessed with them and make false accusations. You NEVER want to put yourself in a situation where you can't defend your way out of it!
My English teacher, discovered I could braid hair and so she asked me to braid her hair, she came round to my family home, and I, one of the few females in our school, did the hair of the ONLY black teacher in our school. I felt honoured that my skills were being valued and I made money doing other peoples hair following, I was 15… I’m 40 now… I see Mr White’s heart… the black community needs to do FAR better at discerning and chastising predators and hero’s… all this smoke for Mr White, yet peodophiles in the family can come to the cookout every summer and round the house in between? Or Knowing Kelly was a predator, yet giving him space, and others… yet Mr White ON CAMERA so no one can accuse him of anything inappropriate demonstrates his heart and how the students feel about him and here we are… no thank you guys… just stop… Ecclesiastical approach for seasons and reasons, a time for and a time for… this isn’t it… ps u made valid points
Agreed
Because boys don't like doing hair. Y'all skip over the logical conclusion to do a reach and project.
Exactly
exactly... I was particularly disturbed by him live-streaming these kids without parental consent.
We can't get tripped up on him being black. We as Black adults in professions with kids need to maintain professionalism too.
He's old enough 2 know better stop making excuses 4 these weirdos 😢
Mr Braids is a liability
Listen.. as an educator, I would not allow a student of the opposite sex to touch me other than a church hug.. and he says he had the parent’s consent but it only takes one person to say he didn’t.. he also said his administration was behind him and we see that wasn’t the truth.. something seems fishy about this.. if his tests scores are on point, they wouldn’t bother him but he’s made many videos of “down” time in class.. down time is for fun, interactive, science games.. or a homeroom or PE class. I would love to hear why he truly got fired because something is missing
This is not something you do in school. He obviously doesn’t know how to conduct himself professionally in a school environment
And with female students. This is a major MAJOR red flag in my book.
This is a major issue. Maybe not fired. But it’s beyond boundaries. Messages, doing his hair. Not cool. It’s like teachers want to be the friend so bad. Not appropriate. It may not be sexual but it’s inappropriate and crosses boundaries. School is education not this. This is the problem with our community.
He's supposed to be a teacher right? Then be a teacher. He's not their friends or their brother. Period. Your job isn't to be cool or have the kids like you. Hes trying to be an Influencer lets be honest. Firing might be a bit harsh but guess its a lesson learned.
Correct
He literally said 10 mins before dismissal dummy
If he wants to bond be a big brother this is not it. If the student does him a favor he will owe them such as extra credit if they receive a bad grade. Being young, black, a man, and hip has nothing to do with the outrage this is just simply a case of wrong place wrong time. Pay someone to take your hair down. Everything is not for social media
This is just plain tacky. If you want to unbraid your hair do it at the salon. Back in my day free time was spent talking to friends or playing a computer game. Why do you have 7 students in your hair? And they are recording you. He got fired for being dumb!
All of this is about you, not him and those students. You don’t care about their outcome. But all this gatekeeping and the low pay is exactly why people don’t want to be in that profession, and children suffer. They’re not being protected from any predator by this. But another good teacher is gone 🤷♂️. Don’t act surprised that the children are poorly educated.
@bernardwylie9760 I understand what your saying, however it is a part of our training we are not to touch a student or allow them to touch us. People don't know that we really aren't allowed to hug students. We have an air five rule lol sounds weird but that's what we are taught to do. His intentions may have been innocent or he could be grooming them we don't know. Children are impressionable and they may develop a crush. Either way the child's safety comes first so they will stop it before it develops into something else.
@@bama8788clearly you don’t understand what I saying, you’re playing the game of “we don’t know for sure, so it’s a problem for us.” The thing is, people are never sure about anything anymore. Everything is circumspect. No, it’s not. I still live in a normative universe. There was nothing wrong here, people made a problem.
@@bernardwylie9760 all I did was let you know the school rules as a teacher. We sign off on many forms about student teacher contact. Was not trying to argue with you just saying they do as they are told. Because if they don't and a child is sexaully harrased the first question is where were the teachers and staff. He may not have had bad intent, but we don't make the rules so he was fired for breaking them. I do understand what your saying children are first. I do care about him losing his job but at the same time he knew the rules like i do. It's too many women and men having relationships with students so now he gone.
@@bernardwylie9760 Based on what are you saying he is a good teacher. Girls taking their own hair or their friend's hair down during free time is acceptable/tolerable because they are minors at school. Girls treating their teacher like he is their friend and taking down his hair is unacceptable. That is not how an adult should behave in their workplace. Top line, his hair shouldn't have been taken down during the work day while he was at work as a teacher. Secondarily, he should not have had children do this for him.
He should have been fired. It is inappropriate. School is a learning environment just as much as a professional environment. He’s at work getting his hair taken down…in turn he’s teaching them the same thing! Teachers used to look and dress professional. I looked up to my teachers, now so many teachers are so worried about the kids liking them to the point that they gray the lines of subordinate and student.
Al, we WERE in the comments when that teacher broke her leg. This is wrong. You would not want your daughter braiding that man’s hair, and you know it. My outrage is at how flimsy we are when it comes to protecting Black girls….even from each other. This is alarming to see.👀
Yyyup!
I was actually on his side before he posted that video saying he had text messages from kiss that was labeled "bestie". that's definitely odd and I was seriously defending him
Al is confused, people are ALWAYS in the comments when children are misbehaving. Children are children though, their brains aren’t done developing. This is a teacher. He knows what boundaries are.
This really was not appropriate. It creates a level a "familiarity" that is crossing boundaries.
Think about it from the kids standpoint. If one minute you're ask me to take down your braids then I begin to see you as a buddy instead of someone in a position of authority over me.
Parents always talk about how you shouldn't be your kids friends and that's important. Kids need to feel comfortable with you but should also understand the boundaries of the relationship.
if they can unbraid his hair he can unbraid their hair and who knows what else
AND IS!!!! TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE!!! UNLESS THIS IS BEAUTY SCHOOL...
IT IS INAPPROPRIATE
It’s a risk the school is taking when stuff like this happens.
Precisely
The fact that he got fired makes me wonder if this was his first infraction. This whole situation was just about his ignorance and immaturity. To fire a teacher means a case was being built against him.
Yup!
Question, What do the kids grades look like. let's be real. I think the panel isn't outraged bc the teacher is likely gay and they feel like he isn't interested in the girls but that doesn't matter. There have to be boundaries. School is not your personal salon. He could have used that time to post him actually teaching them instead of getting his hair done.
It was inappropriate but he didn’t need to be crucified.
He wasnt crucified. He was fired. He's still alive and well.
Not everyone should be a teacher
If one of the girls would have accuse him of touching them he would have had no defense. too close
Being a teacher, we need more information before making a call. Yes, it is totally inappropriate, but if he allows this in class, he may had other issues and other complaints. Not teaching just hanging out with students. I don't think this is a race conversation.
Stop posting and recording people's children
exactly. What’s the point of the tik tok?
It’s just the way the world is now why this is such an issue.
OMG you're clueless
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! TEACHERS AND CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHING.
NOT EVEN HUGS.
NO, THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE!!!
INAPPROPRIATE PERIOD
NO. I'M OLD SCHOOL -- YOU ARE THERE TO LEARN.
I’ve worked in public education for years and I’m young(ish), Black and “hip” and this is inappropriate. Period. I started working in HS at age 24 and the 16-18yr old boys would make passes at me and I would check them and shut it down immediately! My students didn’t know my first name for almost 4yrs (And they only found out because a colleague was calling my name in the hallway one day 🙄)
No befriending them on social media, or anything that would allow them to think we were close, friends, etc. it’s all about professionalism and boundaries. Someone touching you, let alone your hair is intimate and as a teacher, the power dynamic that adults hold in spaces where they’re the authority you need to be especially considerate of your behavior and interactions. He should’ve known better. And even if it seems harmless, the lines are now blurred and could potentially lead to other kinds of inappropriate touching, like them slapping him or play fighting or whatever. Then what? All of it is no. He should’ve been fired because if he clearly didn’t see anything wrong with what he was doing a warning likely wouldn’t have been enough.
I agree with you 100%. If he couldn’t figure out that was inappropriate he doesn’t need to work in the school system.
No such thing as free time when our black kids are failing in school. These are the same black parents who hollered that COVID set our kids back two years according to statistics and they are behind.
Say it louder💯🗣️
Thank you!
To the people that defends the teacher: how would you feel if your daughter was in the video braiding a grown man’s hair at school? I don’t think the teacher meant anything nefarious by it, but there needs to be a line. Seems too buddy-buddy.
period. And the issue at hand should not be ignored because of his tears.
Great…..teach your own kid 🤷♂️
🍎 As a male educator it's very clear by now that there ARE gender priviledges in innocent situations. Most women educators are allowed to repeatedly love on their students with hugs and encouragement or sit in the classroom with any gender w/o having to remember to make sure their classroom door is opened at all times. With women it is NEVER questioned. As male educators we have to avoid all potential "it looks like" because of our reality. I understand that this End of Class Day decision was not the best idea but feel it was innocent. This is just another "it looks like" of course even with all those students present and a camera there right before bus calls. And some people wonder why there aren't enough male educators. Every male teacher is not dangerous. 🍏
I was thinking about this…. I believe it was inappropriate….. I wouldn’t want my daughter taking down a man’s hair…AL was right.
What does race have to do with this? Nothing. This could've been anyone. This is not like back in the day before 2000. Teachers are getting caught left and right. The best way to avoid things sometimes is to n0t place y0urself or someone else in a situation that leads to certain things. It's one thing being a nice teacher. It's another thing touching and being touched. These people don't even have kids, so it's easy for them to dismiss this. I wouldn't care if they were the same genders, or at least I think I wouldn't care. I also don't care if some of the parents gave him permission, which I find a little hard to believe if it was something random. Now, I'm not saying he should be fired. However, he should definitely be warned.
Inappropriate 😲😳
Nahhhhhhhh yall missed this one. It was inappropriate and that’s not what students should be doing
When each of you have children, come back and speak on this. Texting your teacher, “. Hey, bestie.” Absolutely inappropriate between teacher and student.
You don't have to have children to understand that the teacher was totally out of line and inappropriate, you need common Sense that's it
It's inappropriate.
Don’t be stupid about you’re going to bring him on the show, for what reason? So he can defend not doing personal errands in his personal time.
No teacher male or female should have students in their hair. Additionally, he wouldn’t ask male students to do this, it’s inappropriate and he needs to do his dirty hair elsewhere. I don’t think he should be fired BUT I don’t want this to become a norm.
Most likely he was fired because this was not the first issue he has had regarding boundaries and students. There's a problem here...
I believe there should be set boundaries between teachers and students. But let's be real....the "my child is in school to learn" fake outrage is hysterical. Half these parents you can't get on the phone to discuss academics and behavior unless it's about a cell phone. Nobody's teaching from sun up to sun down. We give the students breaks....especially at the end of the day.
Posting the video was his mistake because you have what we have now and that’s a lot of people from outside of the DC area commenting on this man like he is a pedo. The parents and his current and former students have all come out in support of him being and excellent teacher who is in the community. His kids don’t skip class or school because he reaches them on another level and that’s what this was
all 3 of them are out of touch and naive
It was inappropriate on many levels, levels some are unaware of… Yes he should’ve been disciplined, the level of disciplinary action is something that should be up for debate. It’s sad any of this happen, but it did, and lessons should be taken & learned … Armon just because some students wanted to do it mean’s nothing , their cognitive , decision-making skills aren’t developed yet.
The best and worst teachers have always broken boundaries. In this case firing was an overstep!!!
Big bowel movements with corn in it 🌽
Unacceptable no matter what anybody says, he’s there to educate. Firing went to far in my opinion I definitely agree with that.
My 4th grade teacher use to take the girls to the yarn store and also use to take my class to his house. They volunteer to do so,, he didn't say they had to do
What if the teacher was a barber on the side and cut his students hair. Or if a teacher put lotion on a dry skinned kid. A re training would’ve been better. Also how easy it is to fire black men in America is wild that should be the next conversation.
It was inappropriate but I think he could have received a warning instead of being fired. It appears that he does love his students and there isn’t anything wrong with that. I love my students too as if they were my kids, but he did cross a boundary.
Fired because it hit social media and embarrassed the district
Claudia this would be inappropriate for any teacher. Syudents are nit buddies and they are jit servants. This is not blown out of proportion. The fact thst he doesn't see the problem proves he should not be a teacher.
Al, the public has to be aware of issues in order to be outraged. So that's a dumb question about where was the outrage .
Also, I’m so sick of people bringing up the black guy who got fired who was a MIDDLE SCHOOL teacher… like I swear to God the black community just loves to make everything about race because clearly what that teacher did was inappropriate or he wouldn’t have been fired. It doesn’t matter if he’s “attractive or black” He got fired because of inappropriate behavior with minors and let’s not forget the fact that he was texting his students outside of school. This teacher in this video is a HIGH SCHOOL teacher so the standards are wayyy different also this teacher probably isn’t texting his students outside of school.
He loved his job and obviously the kids love him. It is not inappropriate for a child or a teacher to develop a bond! Actually I think it’s more alarming when kids don’t like their teacher. I did my teachers make up one time at school. I use to go to school and do girls hair and make up what’s the difference? I have seen so many tic tocs and videos where something should have been deemed inappropriate but this just isn’t one! Maybe them girls like doing hair maybe they was doing someone else’s hair and have been asking the teacher to do his? And then to make him resign? That is so extreme!
This has the appearance of impropriety for the reasons that Al Reynolds initially stated. His hair take down should not have happened in the classroom during the school day. Hair is very personal and that should have happened outside of the school. At the very least after the school day was over. No students should have helped him take down his hair. It has nothing to do with grooming or liking the teacher.
Of course this teacher should not have been fired, especially for a first offense. However teachers must demonstrate professional decorum. Taking your hair down at work is inappropriate. That is what he demonstrated for those students, and that is not acceptable.
Armon should be quiet. Cool, young, attractive has nothing to do with having and demonstrating professional boundaries.
Claudia, what does liking this teacher have to do with him having his hair taken down during the school day in a classroom?
Al . . . don't flip flop.
Now y'all know that if that teacher speaks on this show he will be fired and have a hard time getting another teaching job.
He was told what's up and he doubled down
a suspension with no pay or a warning thats it. media can go over board sometimes
I need to know more!
But based on what we know - he should not have been fired. Like Armon said, it's multiple girls, not just one. I didn't see anything inappropriate in the clip... He "seems" like a well-intended human being. This story makes me sad.
This is not a big deal. Students, whether females or males, were taking out hair, not giving him a massage. This is another situation blown out of proportion. Our society is always looking for trouble. He's obviously a good teacher respected by his students. This is horrible that he got fired.
I feel like a reprimand would have been more appropriate unless this is a repeated thing he was told not to do. A bit inappropriate for sure, and unnecessary to post on social media. I have mixed feelings tho cuz my son's preschool teacher used to braid his hair and I was so grateful because I embarrassingly cant braid. I remember the 1st time she did it and she sheepishly said she hoped I didnt mind and I was like girl thank you!
If he had permission from the parents to take his hair down, and it was during free time, a short suspension is more than enough. This is sad. Hard to find teachers these days, especially ones that care.
These principles need to stop.
I use to massage my teacher shoulders.
Everything is not for social media.
Thank you Claudia, Al and Armon!!!
They saying something cuz he's attractive
He is??
@@pare5108 my thought exactly!!!
Al tryna get that number we see you Al lol.
I teach in the Kindergarten room.... The little white girls are usually fascinated with my braids.... During free time I occasionally allow the the kids (black and white) to "braid" my braids. It's harmless.... N their parents don't have a problem with it. If for whatever reason the district saw issue .... I would hope the appropriate response would simply be to bring me into the office for a stern talking to and at most a write up.... But fired?! For something that causes no harm or potential to anyone, nor takes away from learning time.... It's ridiculous. Not to mention all the other videos of other teachers doing essentially the same thing.
Why would anyone with common sense have children doing their hair? To me the lack of boundaries and common sense do not bode well for being a teacher over impressionable children. It’s clear none of the panel are parents. SMDH!!!!
Suspension would have been better. 😔
Al is so right
Al is just defending a young handsome black man!
How many fathers with middle school aged girls consider this a good “bonding” exercise?
He was NOT fired. The blogs and social media made that up after he was supposedly crying and clout chasing.
I'm glad that he got fired, he was out of line!
HOW MANY FAILED PROGRAMS CAN CLOGDIAH BE ASSOCIATED?!?!?!?!?!?🤯🥴💀🤡
Yes we need him on you guys show❤
I agree with Al completely. We had a social studies teacher who sold Bud He was loved and the students raised bail money for hm
🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
They have added so many negative narratives this story. The Caucasian principal got his head bedazzled and no outrage. Many teachers text with their students. His color mattered.
Pay that money and get those braids taken out or have a friend come to your house to do it. I think because he was at school and in the place of authority. Students look to teachers to set an example. If certain things are tolerated they could imitate what they see. It's about having respect for the position which in this case is the teacher's position in the classroom.
If men went back to wearing manly hairstyles, this wouldn't have been an issue. And if these 20 somethings were more mature
This ridiculous what is inappropriate about hair being taken down😂😂😂
They're at school to learn not play in a cheap lazy man's hair
This man is too weird to be around anybody’s children🤨
But no one said nothing about the white principal who let the kids bedazzle his head in his office. Yall so sensitive
It does cross a line.
The cohosts need to recognize that grooming is occurring whether the teacher knows it or not. Not just hsir grooming. Boundaries need to be exercised for a reason. Its problematic that you all and many of the parents don't seem to be aware. They were probably single parents. Also, students are not personal servsnts. Just dumb that this teacher is unaware.
Its not right what he did. Its not about race. Am black but i dont suppotr what he did. There should boundaries.
If it was inappropriate then speak to him but he shouldn't of lost his job.
WE NOT SENDING KIDS TO SCHOOL TO FEEL COOL AND HAVE FUN --- YOU ARE THERE LEARN!
I agree with y’all on this.
Oooh I thought it was one student it was several. Yea an apology and warning
How did you think that if you saw the video?
I would love for you guys to bring him on your show. He shouldn’t have gotten fired teachers like him are the ones that inspire entire generation. I grew up with old school teachers in my school in Connecticut and it made me drop out because it felt like I had no one at home to talk to, and no one at school. One day at school I was absent when I returned the next day. My teacher told me that her day was better because I didn’t show up .a man like him being my teacher would’ve made me a better person in life.
Armon hit the nail on the head with his commentary
I don’t think he should’ve been fired.
Shouldn’t have filmed it
My teacher braided my hair all the time
I have a daughter in high school. There is no way I would approve of her doing this. Way inappropriate!!
what was the reason for firing him.