I dont take ibn uthaymeen as a reliable source in any field. He rejects ijma by rejecting the 4 schools and deems everyone a mubtadi and mushrik. Imam ibn abidin deemed ibn abdul wahab a khawaij and we should affirm this. I dont say to do takfir of salafis but we should engage in peaceful talks with them without compromising on the views of the ahlus sunnah.
@@TalkingTalking-zg3gn My sheikh? Call others for help? Pretty sure he calls the dcotor for help when he gets sick. Istigatha isnt a mandatory belief. No one would deem someone out of ahlus sunnah for rejecting istigatha. Salafis are khawarij ie they are extreme literalist and deem everyone misguided even the likes of ibn hajar (rh) and Imam ghazali (rh). Would recommend you to study the books of the earlier scholars yourself instead of relying upon modern day scholars. Its clear who were the majority and who were invented in 1800s. ruclips.net/video/wqJOzmbTfxs/видео.html
@@KASHMIRI_TERRORIST it’s a form of tawassul that is accepted within Sunni Theology because both the sentence structure of tawassul and istighatha is to ask Allah and Allah alone.
@MakingSenseofIslam Thank you for your answer.....The contrast between Salafis and Sufis is unreal. They say it's worse than the kufr of Abu Jahil, and you people say it's accepted..... Subhanallah, I don't know how i can find balance between these two positions
@@Bilal-op6rtyeah here in my country there are bareilly and deoband scholars ....bareilly scholars permits it while deoband scholars don't permit it but don't says that it's shirk
I believe there are some errors in your video Dr. Tarek Shaykh al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: I do not know of anyone who regards the Ash‘aris as kaafirs. End quote from Thamaraat at-Tadween (no. 9) by Dr Ahmad ibn ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan al-Qaadi
@@mouradali8270 Dr Abdul Qadir’s video on this recent episode should make it clear where and how Ibn Uthaymin does takfir of the Azharis. Of course, as I said, not directly but he does attack the Asharis which we as Azharis are a part of. ruclips.net/video/-2jB2nUbTmw/видео.htmlsi=GcJEPjXKn4sgPsZv
I fully agree. I don't fully understand all the fuss about it online. I wonder what exactly sparked it. Is it because he mentioned shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymin rahimahullah made (indirectly) takfir of the Azhariyyin or is it because Ibn 'Uthaymin is not a reference academically (for an Azhari)? I find the responses to his stance a bit childish. If it is the other way around, which happens many times, there is not so much fuss, if at all.
Where does Ibn Uthaymeen make takfir of Ash'aris? There are videos online where he claims that they are from Ahl al-Sunnah in what they agree upon and not from Ahl al-Sunnah in what they differ. Had they been non-Muslims, then the entire question and answer would have been framed differently. Source: ruclips.net/video/wLpS-J4WeZI/видео.htmlsi=swOvuxiwNKY4j_gH
Completely false and supporting falsehood. Ibn Uthaymeen was one of the more lenient Salafi scholars when it came to the Asharis and Maturidis. No one supporting this has brought any evidence that ibn Uthaymeen made Takfir of the Ashaairah and nothing could be further from the truth.
الله يثبتك يا شيخ طارق الجوهري ويسددك وينفع بك
@@TheMercifulAndJust مدد
I dont take ibn uthaymeen as a reliable source in any field. He rejects ijma by rejecting the 4 schools and deems everyone a mubtadi and mushrik. Imam ibn abidin deemed ibn abdul wahab a khawaij and we should affirm this. I dont say to do takfir of salafis but we should engage in peaceful talks with them without compromising on the views of the ahlus sunnah.
Just because he doesn't ignorantly follow your sheikh or call on others for help, then he is not reliable according to you people
@@TalkingTalking-zg3gn My sheikh? Call others for help? Pretty sure he calls the dcotor for help when he gets sick.
Istigatha isnt a mandatory belief. No one would deem someone out of ahlus sunnah for rejecting istigatha. Salafis are khawarij ie they are extreme literalist and deem everyone misguided even the likes of ibn hajar (rh) and Imam ghazali (rh).
Would recommend you to study the books of the earlier scholars yourself instead of relying upon modern day scholars. Its clear who were the majority and who were invented in 1800s.
ruclips.net/video/wqJOzmbTfxs/видео.html
Well Noted Ya Shaykh
As-Salaamu alaiykum wr Shaiykh :).
@@caltreloar9328 Walaykum asalam
Assalamualaikum shaykh. What do you think about Istigatha?
@@KASHMIRI_TERRORIST it’s a form of tawassul that is accepted within Sunni Theology because both the sentence structure of tawassul and istighatha is to ask Allah and Allah alone.
@MakingSenseofIslam Thank you for your answer.....The contrast between Salafis and Sufis is unreal. They say it's worse than the kufr of Abu Jahil, and you people say it's accepted..... Subhanallah, I don't know how i can find balance between these two positions
The balance is not performing istigatha yoursepg while accepting that it is certainly not shirk
@@Bilal-op6rt Is that an accepted position, akhi?!
@@Bilal-op6rtyeah here in my country there are bareilly and deoband scholars ....bareilly scholars permits it while deoband scholars don't permit it but don't says that it's shirk
I believe there are some errors in your video Dr. Tarek
Shaykh al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: I do not know of anyone who regards the Ash‘aris as kaafirs.
End quote from Thamaraat at-Tadween (no. 9) by Dr Ahmad ibn ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan al-Qaadi
We should be fair even to those we differ with ideologically . Dr Usaama Al Azhari is a very learnt scholar , whom I respect.
@@mouradali8270 Dr Abdul Qadir’s video on this recent episode should make it clear where and how Ibn Uthaymin does takfir of the Azharis. Of course, as I said, not directly but he does attack the Asharis which we as Azharis are a part of. ruclips.net/video/-2jB2nUbTmw/видео.htmlsi=GcJEPjXKn4sgPsZv
I fully agree. I don't fully understand all the fuss about it online. I wonder what exactly sparked it. Is it because he mentioned shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymin rahimahullah made (indirectly) takfir of the Azhariyyin or is it because Ibn 'Uthaymin is not a reference academically (for an Azhari)? I find the responses to his stance a bit childish. If it is the other way around, which happens many times,
there is not so much fuss, if at all.
@@harunverstaen4723 I agree. He mentioned both that Ibn Uthaymin does takfir of Azharis and that no Azhari can/should/would cite him as a source.
Where does Ibn Uthaymeen make takfir of Ash'aris? There are videos online where he claims that they are from Ahl al-Sunnah in what they agree upon and not from Ahl al-Sunnah in what they differ.
Had they been non-Muslims, then the entire question and answer would have been framed differently.
Source:
ruclips.net/video/wLpS-J4WeZI/видео.htmlsi=swOvuxiwNKY4j_gH
Completely false and supporting falsehood. Ibn Uthaymeen was one of the more lenient Salafi scholars when it came to the Asharis and Maturidis. No one supporting this has brought any evidence that ibn Uthaymeen made Takfir of the Ashaairah and nothing could be further from the truth.
Ibn Uthaymeen takfir Ash'aahirah, Al-Azhar is Ash'aahirah
@@ogunkoyaoa2860Al Azhar,Al qaraeween,Al zaytuna,Al deoband ect all preaches maturidi and ashari creed