Cold Wars, Cruise Ships, and the Northwest Passage
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- There are a few communities, up in northern Canada, with a dark history and a worrying future. Resolute is one of them, sat at the east of the once-legendary Northwest Passage. In a few years, it might be a tourist destination. Here's why. [Pull down the description!]
Context and history:
Broken Promises, the stories of those moved: • BROKEN PROMISES - TRAILER
The Canadian government's apology, years later: www.rcaanc-cir...
Thanks to Kataisee Attagutsiak (ᑲᑕᐃᓯ ᐊᑕᒍᑦᓯᐊᖅ) for proofreading this script: I hope I've provided enough context there.
Over on the Park Bench, I'm telling more stories from behind-the-scenes, and there's a brilliant final one coming up soon: • Tales From The Arctic ...
I'm here because of Chris Hadfield's Generator Arctic - go check out everyone else who was on the trip, and have a look at tickets for their show at Massey Hall, Toronto, on November 12th! generatorevent.com
Also on the voyage:
Ben Brown - / benbrown100 - who's been putting out daily vlogs of his experiences!
TimToTheWild, who's putting together beautiful footage: / timtothewild
Elmo Keep is writing about the people we met:
/ elmo_keep
Norm and Joey from Tested, who'll put together videos from inside the ship! / testedcom
PLUS: These folks took incredible photos:
Vivienne Gucwa: / travelinglens
Paul Colangelo: / paulcolangelo
Simone Bramante: / brahmino
AND: writing an album on board, singer-songwriter Danny Michel: / dannymichel
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I like how it ends with Chris Hadfield going into the water and saying "Hey, its not so bad."
To be fair, he was wearing a dry suit. Other folks went in just their swimwear. I've been in frozen water accidentally before -- I wasn't going to do it deliberately!
You'd hope he'd ask Tom's name before filming ;)
Considering Col. Hadfield was Tom's roommate on the ship, I'm pretty sure he knew his name by then. :) I'm guessing he was expecting a "Hi I'm XXX" "and I'm YYY" kind of intro to the video.
Would have been funny if he'd called him 'Tim' :)
Did you take your protein pills?
Thank you for taking part in our Arctic expedition, Tom. Looking forward to seeing you again in Toronto for the stage show.
oh snap its chris hadfield.
Hey Chris, thanks for being awesome. That's all.
This expedition looked absolutely incredible. Ben Brown's vlogs were probably my favorite. I now have a new bucket list item. Sadly with the state of climate change, I might not have much time. Cheers, Commander.
Thanks for inviting me along! See you then :)
I like your moustache..
I'm impressed by your presentation skills. Not only did you talk for almost four and a half minutes without stuttering or fumbling your lines; it was done in one fluid, continuous shot. Not as easy as it looks.
He's the GOAT at this :D
He has a degree in linguistics.
@@Boo..... always thought he's an IT guy
And then the video ends.
And suddenly out of nowhere, Major Tom steps in.
Thanks for mentioning that dark part of Canada's history. We've got a piss poor track record with native relations and have treated them poorly in the past and present. It's an important story to be told.
That's it! That's the last video from the Arctic. Over on the Park Bench, there's one more story to tell this weekend, so go subscribe over there if you haven't already. Next week: a brand new location, and - hopefully - the footage from Citation Needed Live!
hi
How was this comment posted 1 hour ago, when the video is just minutes old?
It could have been sitting unlisted for hours.
Did you have a lot of editing to do for Citation Needed Live, Tom?
I wonder why that was....
I've really enjoyed these! I look forward to the last Arctic park bench episode. They have been very interesting, thank you!
Thank you for talking about our dark history which still haunts our present. We have so many issues with neglect for indigenous peoples, and they have been treated terribly (dozens of uninvestigated murders, families being torn apart, no clean water, etc.). More people should be aware of this.
***** Every group has gone through some sort of struggle, my grandparents suffered under a repressive soviet regime, that sought( and often succeeded) to wipe their people from the face of the earth. And yet my Grandparents overcame their challenges and built successful lives. This is the story of many people from around the world. The issue is the government continues to coddle the natives. If you give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach him to fish he will eat forever.
***** Well I think genocide beats discrimination. What is worse, getting forced to go to a school to educate the Indian out of you, or getting sent to concentration camp where they purposely worked you to death, then dumped the bodies into a ditch.
***** My point is that every group has gone through difficulties, no reason other then our government keeping out funding their laziness for their troubles.
***** How so?
How is affermative action not racism? Racism is when you treat someone different based on their race. So by giving preference to Natives in education, by lowering the grades needed to get in, to hiring Natives specifically it is racism.
Sure it might be hard, but as the proverb goes, "Give a man to fish, he eats for a day. Teach him to fish he eats for life." It is time we end special treatment for Natives, treat them like every other Canadian.
Dude, your respect for other people's history is incredible. Just the fact you didn't want to explain history that isn't very relevant to you... humbling. I sit and watch your videos with my Son often. My main focus in life is to feed him with as much knowledge as possible, and he loves it! And you make that very easy!
Thanks for all you do Tom!
I love that you consider that your main focus in life. I'm an older sibling, not a parent, but one of my favourite things in the entire world is sharing a cool new learning experience with my younger brothers.
i just recently discovered this channel and bro I'm going to rewatch everything in this channel once my son starts to understand these things. He's just 17 days old now haha
4 years later and I spent part of my summer at this exact location researching the oil contamination for the exact reasons Tom mentions in this video for my MSc.
glad you got Chris Hadfield on camera in the end.
Terrific series of videos. Thank you.
I spent a few hours late last night reading about Grise Fjord and Resolute. The history of both places is so intensely grim. I like that you brought up the massive cruise ship as well. It's something that I have been thinking about quite a bit since we got back from this voyage. So many complexities of ethics and international issues in the history, present and future of this (important) area of the world. Great video Tom.
Your dedication to being interesting and eye-opening is one of the reasons I'm constantly in slight awe of you.
i am subscrided to all youtubers you mentioned and i disagree. what tom does is incite curiocity with his videos. i believe its upto individual to further dig into the matter covered.
Veritasium produces about one video per month on average; Tom more like one per week. From my own limited experience of creating "researched and produced" videos I know it takes a lot of effort, and four minutes a week is not unrealistic.
+Jango Bobafett
Yeah but they take soooooo long to upload; only once a month or longer. At least Tom uploads almost weekly.
*****
Quick question: Have you seen the channel "Kurzgesagt"? If not i highly recommend it.
Oh man, it's already over? :( I wish there was more. I know I'm greedy like that. :)
Thanks for this great voyage, Tom and letting us share some of your fun.
At least there's one more Park Bench still :-)
Oh man, Evan Hadfield, love what you (and your dad) have been doing for Canada!
good video, the prospect of Canada's ownership of territory being ignored and used without jurisdiction is a scary one.
I love Chris Hadfield, such a great guy.
Didnt go into the water with only a red t-shirt. Unsubbed
Tom fell through a frozen lake In Estonia wearing a red t-shirt and the old grey hoodie. Does that count?
There are photos, the video's called Tom Fell Through A Frozen Lake In Estonia. And it's on the channel Matt and Tom.
"hey it's not so bad" Chris Hadfield is hilarious
Canada unfortunately has a long history of poor treatment of its native peoples, both by the government and private (mainly religious) organizations. I say this as a Canadian.
I think that you will find that any country with aboriginals treats them poorly.
You seem to miss remember the fact they didn't voluntarily move themselves. The didn't just pick up and say the fishing will be better up north. They were moved to a place where it's almost impossible to continue life the way they knee it. You complain about them surviving on benefits and subsidizes, but you don't put them where it's possible to maintain their way of life. They lived where they did, even though harsh, it was sustainable. That far north it's just not.
We (Canada) also have a bad asbestos habit that we really need to quit. Damage has already been done. Sorry India! :/
and Gord D, with respect to his next solo album, gave us Courage to face our misdeeds - and in retrospect:
There's no simple
Explanation
For anything important
Any of us do
And, yeah, the human
Tragedy
Consists in
The necessity
Of living with
The consequences
Under pressure...
Is it just me or did Chris Hadfield forget Tom's name for a second?
#SoHomo?
They were roommates for about 2 weeks, you don't forget the name of your roommate, ever.
@Evan Hadfield Are you related to him?
hes chris hadfields son
This video was incredibly informative, Tom. Thanks so much for everything you bring to us, and thanks to Chris Hadfield for bringing Tom with him on this incredible journey.
The problem with the Northern Passage is that it is technically within Canada's borders. A country had full rights to anything within the economic zone of their waters (212 nautical miles). But let's say we rule that out. Most islands are within 12 nautical miles of each other, some have military bases, national parks, and military training grounds on them. They are in use, the Northwest passage is even constantly patrolled by the Canadian Coast Guard.
I applaud Tom for being so informative and full of knowledge whilst being genuinely unbiased. I enjoy watching all his content for this reason. Looking forward to some kind of upload in the near future hopefully! Cheers, Tom
A really thoughtful, fascinating, heartbreaking rollercoaster of a video, and only a few minutes of a single take long. Very impressive.
Oh, also, Chris Hadfield is an absolute hero of mine, so seeing Major Tom and Captain* Tom together at the end was really rather special. Y'all are excellent humans.
*That is, captain of an icebreaker, not... the other one.
Question; how does Tom get to do all these things? I mean, are half of his 600k subs scientists?
he mentioned in a park bench video that Chris Hadfield was asked to go on the boat for money and he said 'Can I have 12 places on the boat instead?' and he invited other people, Tom included
I love the chaos in the outro. "Okay, you don't know what we're saying but we're gonna go run into the arctic sea now!"
These videos are amazing! So glad to see them!
Thanks for sharing all the fun and knowledge you've acquired in the Arctic with us Tom! :)
Interesting watching this in 2021. This winter, the northern ice never fully formed. The northwest passage is now open year round. :/
@0:12; "Alright! One take, without being interrupted by a Polar Bear!"
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing this expedition with us Tom! :) Love from Australia.
Man I love Chris Hadfield, what an inspiration.
I like the fact that you recorded this in one take
Hi Tom!
I live in Bielefeld Germany and I love to watch your videos! And I have watched many of them.
But every time I ask myself, what your real job is. Because in one video you're a programmer, in the other one you teach about numbers ore you talk about history... That is so much knowledge in one person!
"I live in Bielefeld Germany". Yeah, right. ;-)
or maybe Not?
That I know of, Tom's official university training was in linguistics, he made a living for years programming (self-taught) & other computer stuff, did RUclips on the side for fun until his RUclips really caught on, and now he makes his living doing this! :)
My dad worked in Alert, which is in Nunavut.
His job in the navy was surveillance of Russian airport communications. It was a very secretive job since he was working during the cold war.
I enjoy this video; for it not only talks about this town's dark past, but also it's future as well as how it is relevant to everybody else. For one of my classes I need to do a 4000 word essay, so if there's enough information I very well may do it on this.
I was wondering what was wrong with the encoding quality, then I remembered it's the snow. Tom, you answer my questions before I even know I have them :D
Tom I love you! You're so smart, I'm addicted to your Chanel!!! (Esp the language stuff!)
Love your channel, so glad I've found it!
Tom has such a nice presentation manner. Very professional.
This series was so cool. I'm gonna miss the arctic expedition team. Sure, I follow most of them individually, but it's not the same.
Thanks for your videos! (looking forward to the last tales video :D )
I very much like the Canadian you've found there! 😊 you are lucky
🇨🇦 ❤❤
I dont know who Im more envious of... Tom Scott because he got to meet Chris Hadfield or Chris Hadfield because he got to meet Tom Scott
This was my favorite arc on all of youtube
Canadian apology now goes to a 404 page stating ''we're sorry you ended up here.''
How you are able to do these in one shot amazes me. Great content.
Amazing video, Tom. Not just that but all in one take as well!
Congrats on 600k subs, you deserve every one of them
Your trip looked very exciting ! Nice video, as always ! :)
Thanks Tom another good video. I'm glad you got to go that far North, I only got to Yellowknife, NWT. I hope you've got more time on your Visa to explore more of the North. (If you end up in Yellowknife try the Black Knight Pub, a few familiar British Beers if you fancy a tipple from home and try the Bison Burger !) Pretty sure you'll find plenty of interesting historical facts to do with Yellowknife and NWT.
thanks tom for the video. your Arctic videos are great.
Thanks to this channel I'm getting smarter everyday
Hey Tom. One day, you should do a video based on how you choose topics, research them, and prepare one of your shows. I think it can really help people learn how to do short video essays like you do, a lot better than they currently are. Thanks.
I agree
Another great vid Tom :) Can't wait to see what youupload in the near future :)
Well he's a bundle of joy today.
If anybody deserves the title of all round legend it Chris Hadfield.
incredible video mate, real unsettling stuff
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
I saw the phrase North West Passage and thought back to the old Tech Dif Podcast - which [for those who don't know] they played a bit of at the end of the London show (very pleasingly)
Glad to know they took a Northwest Passage, if only for just one time, ah.
(song lyrics based pun)
Thank you for that. I wonder how Chris does with Stan's songs. He would know them.
Sean Boyd Yeah i think I saw he said on twitter he would be strumming a few on his guitar, don't know if he did in the end though
So nice to see two of my heroes together!
It's good to hear people talking about the forced relocation of the natives, just now or schools are finally teaching us about the natives people and colonisation.
Chris Hadfield and Tom Scott.
My day has been made.
Finding Evan Hadfield here long before Rare Earth is a pleasant surprise.
Come on Tom, say missiles, not missuls!
In all seriousness though, your channel is one of the best.
That's where Top Gear started their polar expedition, right?
the northwest passage is internal Canadian waters
As a Canadian maybe we should tax ships going through the northwest passage, maybe discourage use of it, except for vital things. Im sure you all can wait for your 3000 "150 inch LCD TVs and iphones" for 2-3 weeks more, no sense in destroying our north and the arctic for some plastic and silicon and oil.
it's not like taxing it will stop that. it'll just increase the cost of the plastic and silicon and oil
if the taxes are high enough that it's significantly cheaper to take the old route, it would probably work.
***** nope. you'd just end up with more stuff being shipped at once to offset the cost. 4000km is a lot of fuel.
4000km is a lot of fuel, but like I said, if the taxes heavily outweigh the fuel costs, most people will just use the old route.
***** there's no way trudeau would do that, come on.
the northwest passage is part of Canada despite what anyone says.
As with all history, money or the biggest army wins.... Canada has neither
Jhawk2tall That is very far from the truth. A lot of rich and powerful countries have fought against inferior ones and have ended up losing big time. Plus, Canada is one of the richest countries in the world, and we have many good allies that would fight alongside us. Check your facts before making a smart ass comment
Ya? Name one country. The USA is bigger, stronger, and has more influence. Prove those facts wrong. Last time I checked, USAs wealth is 62 trillion and Canada is only 6 trillion....I think I can find a few US states that are stronger then Canada.
The USA also has about 21 trillion dollars in debt. Canada has 1.4 trillion which is still alot, but when you consider both countries total GDP, the US needs to pay off 33 percent of its GDP, while Canada only has to pay of 23 percent. Again, neither are great, but the numbers dont lie. And because most Americans like Canada, and most Canadians like America, the idea of a war between us would be a bad one. Plus, if the US is so rich, they shouldint have a problem with paying a fee to go through the north west passage, if we even decide to do that.
Romania best military
You don't stand a chance
Very interesting video. thanks a lot!
Probably really random compared to other comments you get but I associate you very strongly with soup. Every time I eat soup I think, "Hmm. Time to watch Tom Scott!". I don't know what it is but it's even there with ramen. It's almost as if I _only_ watch you while eating soup. At this point, my brain just goes into autopilot and as soon as the soup bowl touches my desk I go search for this channel. Thank you for bringing me entertainment while I eat soup.
"Hey, It's not so bad". Well yea, for someone who experienced serveral G's at liftoff, the harshness of space and reentry, the freezing waters of the Arctic must feel like a cozy pool :D
Congrats on 600k subs!
Around 0:26, there was a bird flying up to a mast.
Nice video. Thank you
i like these videos so much!
I'm strangely obsessed with tom's videos
awesome video!
Excellent video!
This needs an update in light of recent events, I guess.
Im studying the cold was in history pretty hype!
In Soviet Russia, you do not inhabit the ice. The ice inhabits you.
Only just noticed the fact that Tom added motion graphics following Chris Hadfield's hand to the link at the end
Hi Tom. Just a quick comment on a fact you had on your vid:
I think you meant the quickest route from a major American city/military base to a major Russian city is over the north pole. The quickest route between America and Russia is from Russia's North East Coast to Alaska's North West Coast.
Sorry!
Vladivostok, Habarovsk, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy. But it depends on what you call "major".
***** Population is not the only thing that makes city major, especially in such big country as Russia. Vladivostok gets much, MUCH mroe attention and money from government than, for example, Novosibirsk, 3rd city in Russia.
Nilguiri he is not wrong. Do you realise that Alaska is just 55 miles away from Russia and taht Alaska is part of USA?
Nilguiri bit.ly/2dwKN5v cheers buddy
When Fallout predicts wars for the Arctic
Chris Hadfield is an absolute legend!
they should tax or receive a toll for anything going through since if anything were to go wrong, like an oil spill, it would fall on Canadians to pay to fix it. Also any profits earn could be used to maintain the passage with ice breakers and stuff.
there's also the Alert station which is a Canadian Forces base still active to this day.
Tom collabed with an astronaut? Chris Hadfield is awesome. He seems like a really down to earth guy. I loved seeing Chris doing stuff on the ISS.
So I did a search, and the cruise ship in question did do the trip but only that one, why? Quote from article: The northern voyage of the Serenity, although a success, was not without backlash. Many experts pointed out that rescuing passengers on such a ship would cost millions, not to mention the impact such a ship, with more than a 1,000 people on it, would have on the delicate environment, and of course the impacts on communities in the region. It would also be remiss not to mention the impacts that an oil spill from such a ship would have in remote northern waters, where clean-up would not only be costly but drawn out.
Yay, a new video!
How do you find these stories? They're always so good.
Even more impressive, I think he did most of the research and scripting before the trip.
I agree, it's quite often that they were about something I had not known, while some (now-not-so) interesting facts are being repeted over and over again across internet and media in general.
That's a pretty cool outro to just slip in there...
The High Arctic Relocation reminds me of how survivalist Tom McClean lived on the tiny islet of Rockall for 40 days in 1985 to affirm the UK's claim to its Exclusive Economic Zone.
Given that the people who moved their presumably weren't huge fans of the Canadian state, I'm not sure that them being there should give Canada a stronger claim to the islands than if they were uninhabited.
Wearing something but a red t-shirt?
I am disappointed.
Sergeant Fidelis he'll freeze
Sebastian Gielens WELL TOO BAD BUDDY BUT YOU GOTTA STAY AUTHENTIC
he is wearing it... just underneath all his coats
Sergeant Fidelis scrub
He's wearing a red Toque, though...
Awesome outro !
This is so cool 😍
The cold war is over but viewing this video it still cold. Extremely cold...
Chris hadfield: Takes a dip into freezing artic waters
also chris hadfield: "Its not so bad"
proud to be canadian!
Newfoundland is going to make soo much money when the north west passage really starts up