Got good feedback in the last top 10 - thought I'd throw another one together for you....enjoy! Also, the channel just hit 300k subscribers this weekend - are we beating BfA? I'd like to announce my next video series called "Madseason expeditions", where if you watch the entire 20 minute video, you have a .00001% chance of obtaining something cool! Catch me live at www.twitch.tv/madseasonshow
Just curious to your opinion, if Blizzard were to put in new content into Classic WoW after the final patch, would you want them to actually give you a way to purify the corrupted Ashbringer?
I love your videos mate, but i will have to correct you on the Dark Portal facts that you stated in the video. In the book " The wow Diary, A Journal of Computer Game Development " is stated by the developers that the Dark Portal placements in Pre Alpha/Alpha WoW were just random places that the developers were experimenting on puttin the actual Dark Portal at , before actually being settled down in the Blasted Lands.
The portal in the login screen is the one in hellfire peninsula and shows azeroth how it was told to be a "lush world ripe for the taking" as medivh told gul'dan. In reality the other end that lead to azeroth was located in a swamp
The world of Warcraft is actually a story through the eyes of the horde and starts with us going through the dark portal (this comment is a joke btw) so yeah alliance is just a side storyline created from our (horde) discovering you
That's not as insane as it sounds, WoW came out in 2004 and the biggest loot based RPG Blizzard had then was Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 you have special items called charms which only have an effect if they're in your inventory.
Lol, and i though that was only my idea and only few my guildies hear about it from me - and that's why it is not on this list. Obviously, i was wrong...
in regards to the Emerald Dream, i was watching Mark Kern talk about some old dev stories when Classic first came out. it was originally planned to be where you went when you died. it would be like a mirror world of azeroth and you still had to go to where you died if you wanted to respawn. or you could just stay in the ED version of azeroth and quest/adventure there instead. sounds ludicrously ambitious to me, but they had a lot of crazy (awesome) ideas back then.
That sounds like a very strange idea. Why would a druid exclusive place be the place where our hero's soul resides? What would happen if we die there? It sounds like a very interesting idea, but not detailed enough.
@@hunlepto2239 Its because world of warcraft is also a lovecraft story and one of his quotes is "That which may eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die" Which has been shown to be a reference to the old gods not dying but simply going to sleep and that death and sleep are interchangeable. Therefore id think that; *Possible spoilers* 1 of 3 things is happening; Azeroth is corrupted already, Azeroth is the titan of Void/Death The old gods are our actual creators not azeroth.
@@DJ_Treu Interesting outlook on that. That way, Emerald Dream would have given us alot more questions (and maybe answers inside) about Azeroth itself than what we currently have.
Saaaaaaaaame! The intro cinematic with a tauren wielding a totem weapon was what made me roll a tauren. I realized later ofc it was just a reference to the tauren wielding Totems in WC3
I played through Beta. I remember grouping with someone in ashenvale and both of us dying. As we both died, we hit release, zoned back to the graveyard and fell through the world. We fell for a short time and eventually zoned into... You guessed it, The Emerald Dream. Being a ghost and not knowing at the time how to turn off the ghost effect we both ran around this zone for a while, trying to find a way to get rezzed. At this point, we were basically stuck and had to open a ticket to a GM. I remember the GM scolding us for being in the zone until I explained to them what happened. All I remember from the zone was that it had very large trees but other than that, it was basically flat. Always thought they were going to release that zone eventually. Anyway, cool little memory I have from playing in the beta.
"Why have the dark portal on the log in screen?" That's a line that hits close to the old MMO days. The early MMOs weren't 'just a game' you played into. It was like 'walking into a new world.' There weren't all those game guides where everyone knew everything. It was a foreign new world with mystery at every corner! The dark portal on the loading screen was like your portal from your computer going into Azeroth. A portal between the real world and Azeroth. That's why the portal is on the loading screen, lol.
A strong rumor/myth back in the day, was that if you leveld up engineering, you'd get to craft and pilot your very own shredder, if you went goblin engineering of course. And there even was a quest where you had to collect some manual pages of a shredder pilot guide.
It's funny how most of those things actually came out in Legion (Emerald Dream, wieldable uncorrupted Ashbringer, warglaives...), like the devs had stumbled upon an old roadmap that was scrapped when they were working on TBC XD
@@neji275 I liked the begining of Cata much more than i liked Legon, that's for sure. The end of Cata sucked about as much as the end of Legion though.
@self replicating whatnot. my issue is that with legion we had a pretty inane grind...for just about everything. And then for some weird reason...oh lets make it all ground based because...uh er uh reasons? oO. The legendaries were fantastic in some cases, and then lame in others. The real issue I had was the mis-use of the quest board. A ton of quests hit a arbituary wall for example, or just stopped. It'd build up to this potentially really neet thing . Just to send a followers on it. That said: man finally being able to have the option to have that was totes.lol. Their was Cata? oO :P
I remember a colleague telling me how he went to the Badlands as a lowbie. He made a mad dash for the Dark Portal, thinking he would go through before the aggroed monsters would murder him. Only he went through it and he didn't go anywhere but behind it. And then the monsters sent him back to the graveyard.
that was true tho. The first expansion was originally south seas with pandarens as alliance race (probably goblins for horde but that's just my guess). but there was some technical limitation that made it impossible, and they already had alot of outland related stuff ready for 1.13 patch, so they did outland instead. Of course pandarens didn't fit that expansion so they came up with draenei.
I was a Horde player on Daggerspine when Kuroma was active. I do not believe that the account was played by only one person, as the character was on seemingly 24/7. You could ALWAYS find Kuroma in Alterac Valley, usually hanging around the alliance graveyard in the middle, and always in cat form. He would basically never shift out of cat form, not even when it would easily save his life. Really lazy, and pathetic in a 1v1, he was there ONLY to farm honor. I'm pretty sure that the alliance hated him more than we did, since he kept a lot of other people from reaching rank 14.
I kept thinking about the first rumors of GM island and how there was certainly a way to get there by natural means. Also being able to unlock a way into old iron-forge. Great video and solid top 10 I remember just about all of these happening at the time. Freaking classic times for sure.
The Dark Portal myth was actually solved with the release of "The World of Warcraft Diary" by John Staats. In the book, he explains that the reason the Dark Portal could be found all over the place was because... they weren't sure where they wanted to have the portal. Yes, even though it's supposed to have a fixed position in the lore.
I saw another interview where they stated that it was a placeholder for dungeon entrances until they could design an actual dungeon exterior. That was their explanation for the one underwater in azshara
there is non insignificant amount of 'magic' that we have lost in video games, from how much information we have access to these days. prior to the internet having all the answers, the myths, the legends, the stories we shared.... they added wonder to our experience. all of these are things modern players will not experience, and thats a shame.
I feel it depends more on the person. I personally thought it would be fun to try wow classic, but after a while I just didn't enjoy it as much as retail
Thanks for mentioning my channel! Really cool video; I have always enjoyed exploring pre-Cataclysm world and wondering about the purpose or origins of some unusual locations. I am also so glad that the Emerald Dream was finally sort of added in Legion, it was a favourite place of mine.
Yikes this was so awesome! I still remember many of those myths and how we spent countless hours searching for them. The tiger cave was new to me though! Ahh, those were the days when fishing for the Ashbringer. Thanks for this and all of your videos man!
What i love about your channel is that, you will launch video of something i never thought or asked for, and enjoy every second of it, and this is another one, wasn't thinking about such theme, but hey, here is a new video, and man it's worth the time :) Great video mate.
Quit wow like 5 years ago, but I always come back to your videos. New ones, and rewatching old ones. Amazing to watch and listen while I do other stuff like chores, or taking a walk etc. Dunno if you'll ever see this comment but wish you the best. Happy New year!
it’s really cool to think jeff kaplan was working on a game my parents were playing when i was like 3 to now working on overwatch, a game i’ve been playing for a few years.
8:15 While you couldn't enter Karazhan in vanilla, you could enter its basement! You had to have a mage sheep you in a duel and then you would clip through a portcullis while in sheep form. Sometimes took a few tries. This entry was removed when they revamped Karazhan, but you get into a very similar place for the Lucid Nightmare quest now.
About entering the Dark Portal before TBC: If you watch the Behind the Scenes videos that were on the dvd, which came with Vanilla Collector's Edition, one of the Blizz employees are literally saying, that players will have to find a way to open the Dark Portal. While a bit vague, that certainly did not help quell the quest to enter the portal.
All the stuff that never made it into the game ... this is why I eventually want a Classic+ server, with all the stuff that was planned but never made it into the game because of time constraints.
I hear everywhere I turn that it's going to be like that. Like oldschool runescape and how they keep adding new content in an old format... tbh I can see the point, why have 4 different games of different versions of the game when you can have 2 really good ones with big communities instead of a handful of small ones
As much as part of me worries that the current team in charge of WoW wouldn't have what it takes to pull it off, I still can't deny how much I would pay to see this. So many incomplete ideas, so much lost potential - Hyjal, various dungeons that never came to be realized, and of course everything that was touched on in this video - and we have a unique opportunity to go back and see it all fleshed out now with the advent of Classic, if only Blizz would feel up to the task. However, I think we all know it's never going to happen of course - most likely thing is they'll just release a new set of a servers for those interested in TBC and call it a day.
@Kid Icarus Exactly.. It'll be the same thing when they reverse the pruning in retail for the next xpac. They will just trickle a few old abilities back without creating the next evolution of class design and go "That's what you wanted, right?". They have no faith in themselves.
I remember a friend of mine finding the tiger cave, and parking an alt there. He logged on daily at various intervals for months in hopes of the vendor spawning. Good times. I love myths like this. It really compounds a game's sense of scale and mystery.
The stat line about Kuroma is awesome. Daggerspine was my home for all of vanilla and through wrath. I did many battlegrounds alongside Kuroma and his always present priest healer Angehoul (sp?) I want to say it was 9 months total he held GM...pretty frustrating for the rest of the people grinding. He also almost never spoke in chat which led to people spreading rumors he was a bot, which led him to start speaking in all 1’s and 0’s from time to time just to mess with people.
I found his chanel when i had a two weeks of for learning for the finals, in every break i watched one vid from him until ive seen every video and then i saw his last one it hit me like a truck.. Even toda when i hear his music i got sad he was the man and i will never forget him RIP BROTHER
@@benjijagermeister2956 Yeah, i do understand that. I found his channell long ago and liked it a lot. The amount of work and love he was puting into making of his videos was amazing, incredible. I watched all the new and old videos, few was still missing to watch and i saw the last thumbnail. The music together with the message in video description is incredible chilling even today. Few videos before he was talking about how everything is going nicely ... and suddenly he is gone. And those videos was made almost one after another. His intro music is almost hauntig now for me, such a sadness.
I found his channel on one of the first few wow videos he made when he had a small amount of subscribers. I watched his channel for so long, and was so happy for him when he started getting subscribers. When he got sick it was really sad, but I had hope he would pull through. His last video was devastating to me.
How I had always thought the login portal is that we are in a dreary world, and then we see the portal to azeroth, and we go into the world of warcraft.
I still remember to this day people talking about it in chat and ventrilo on different ways to purify it. Loved that mystery feeling back then when things were soo unknown.
your videos and especially your intro are really calming somehow. I have quit wow a long time ago but from time to time I like to pick up on whats new and how it develops. Your videos give great insight and somewhat bring back some memories.
Its really cool to think that back then people actually thought the devs would have made an entire zone that was almost impossible to access but all but the most determined players, like an in game hunt for a kind of holy grail or lost ark.
How about this: Make #ClassicWoWPlus , in which they would add/continue ALL that was planned from the beginning of vanilla ! Including, but not limited to most of the myths found in this video and all the incomplete quest lines / incomplete locations. EDIT: If there are concerns with overlapping content of other expansions, we *could* consider this "the PLUS timeline".
The raid loot was reviled during BC on the community forums. If I recall correctly, it was randomly generated the moment the raid instance was created with the millisecond to a power being the variable that controlled random nature.
man, dopefish brings back old memories. I remember getting behind the instance portal of karazhan back in the day and there was a big smiley face under the building in the terrain.
As a Mage u can Enter Karazan! I know because I did in classic jsut last week. You can Blink inside but there isnt anything to do there. You can chill behind the bars and thats it and if you are unlucky you fall through the map and respawn after a Crash right in front of the bars of Karazan
I'm working on a game for my internship. And I have to focus on what I'm doing. But I can have a small floating player in the corner of one of my screens. But most videos are just way too distracting. I can't focus on what I'm doing. I can only watch your videos and actually hear what you're telling. And focus on the work I'm doing. I think your voice is really relaxing. And the jokes told really monotone. It's perfect. We call it 'dry humor' in dutch. And it's the best kind of humor.
Biggest myth not listed: Everquest 2, Vanguard, LotRO, Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Darkfall, Tabula Rasa, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars Old Republic, Black Desert, Final Fantasy 14, Runescape Update, All Points Bulletin, etc, were all going to kill WoW. 😂
I love how when u talk about classic, it was all about players trying what works, hoping and just grinding. Not like now when WOTLK came out again people have internet for everysingle thing in the game... I wish i played back then.
Not gonna lie the Glaive thing still bothers me to this day, they're *the* iconic Night Elf unit used by their main frontline unit in Warcraft 3 and the Warden Hero unit used a circular glaive-type weapon, how it took all the way til BFA for anything like the three bladed glaive to come into the game boggles my mind. And even then they fucked it up by making it demonhunter exclusive. It should have been a one handed weapon option from the beginning darnit
I was the guild luck token in vanilla/BC. Regular raid member was arrested in Vanilla and left a spot open. I was only 60 online who in guild who wasn't already in the raid (and attuned). So My Boomkin got the invite. They didn't know what to do, since the guy I was replacing was normally who zoned in first and I wasn't aware of this. I showed up and said sorry for making everyone wait on me, and ran into portal. Ended up getting better loot than they normally did (the boomkin buff was also apreciated by everyone) and I ended up becoming the new luck token going forward.
so banned for exploiting something they wouldnt have had if GM hadnt screwed up... was the GM reprimanded or was the player the only one who saw punishment?
Why should the GM be punished? It was an exceedingly small chance of happening honest mistake that they probably didn't even realize until it was too late. The player who had the GM item knew what the effect did and willingly chose to exploit it over and over, so they're the ones who get punished.
Always some people defending exploiting because "it's not their fault that it's possible". Just like the people who find something on a street and are very surprised that they face theft charges if they keep it. "It's not my fault. They shouldn't have lost it!" Or all these people "accidentally" getting their whole account worth of cash from the ATM with swapped notes by mistake. "But that's not my fault, they should have fixed it. I didn't even know anything is wrong. I just happened to withdraw 1000$, then put 2000 back into my account and withdraw them again. Pretty normal. What do you mean to pay it back. No. It's mine now. No, that's not stealing, officer, it's not my fault, it's their fault. Why should I be reprimanded for their mistakes?!"
Back in Classic, I heard a rumor that druids could change their aquatic form into a shark through a quest in Theramore. I was devastated upon realizing it was false.
@@varadigabor7812 I look back at how I played back then and I was complete utter trash at the game compared to now and I didn't even think the raids were that hard back then.
The best one is number one LOL, the fact that they actually made u do all the things people tried over the years for the pure version just to obtain the new alternate corrupted version, that is so sick lol.
The tiger dropped in original Zul Gurub, super low chance but there was an actual tiger, also there is a spectral tiger gained from the playing cards sets. Karazhan, in Wrath the devs started building the undercroft which in originality was as large below ground as it was above ground with tricks and traps and some pretty creepy furniture. You used to get a mage to sheep you through the doorway, was pretty cool.
It's not like raids had timing requirements for loot i mean it would be crazy if a mount was not lootable because player's actions were so slow. It would be un"bear"able.
Got good feedback in the last top 10 - thought I'd throw another one together for you....enjoy! Also, the channel just hit 300k subscribers this weekend - are we beating BfA? I'd like to announce my next video series called "Madseason expeditions", where if you watch the entire 20 minute video, you have a .00001% chance of obtaining something cool! Catch me live at www.twitch.tv/madseasonshow
you got real happy over that combined Twin blades of Azzinoth :P
Thought the secret cow level would of made the list.
Atleast youre honest
Just curious to your opinion, if Blizzard were to put in new content into Classic WoW after the final patch, would you want them to actually give you a way to purify the corrupted Ashbringer?
I love your videos mate, but i will have to correct you on the Dark Portal facts that you stated in the video. In the book " The wow Diary, A Journal of Computer Game Development " is stated by the developers that the Dark Portal placements in Pre Alpha/Alpha WoW were just random places that the developers were experimenting on puttin the actual Dark Portal at , before actually being settled down in the Blasted Lands.
I always thought the Dark Portal login screen was something like us taking the portal from our world to the game world.
Same, I always saw it as us entering the world of warcraft or like us being transported into it
The portal in the login screen is the one in hellfire peninsula and shows azeroth how it was told to be a "lush world ripe for the taking" as medivh told gul'dan. In reality the other end that lead to azeroth was located in a swamp
The world of Warcraft is actually a story through the eyes of the horde and starts with us going through the dark portal (this comment is a joke btw) so yeah alliance is just a side storyline created from our (horde) discovering you
Yeah me too, it worked wonders in my 11 y ear old mind
I love that. Now I'm going to start telling myself that's what it is.
sacrificing the right amount of gnomes is what determines the loot drops. everyone knows that
Thats why we have **** drops. We cleared MC without wipe. Next time i will try less healing to gnomes :D
sacrificing the right ammount of gnomes... so that means every last one of them right?
@@googoofeesmithersmits4536 Yeah, but you need to leave some alive for when the next raid unlocks.
I'm from Final Fantasy XIV, so I have to ask: why is the reputation of the Gnomes of Azeroth and the Llalafell of Hydaelyn so similiar?
@@normanellis8204 oh yeah I guess so, if not then there won't be any left for other raids :P
I can't believe that "carrying a rabbits foot in your inventory increases your loot chances" didn't make it in the list.
Only myths here bruh.
@@peterbach1126 LOL
@@peterbach1126 It's a myth, it's even a purple item in Wotlk
That's not as insane as it sounds, WoW came out in 2004 and the biggest loot based RPG Blizzard had then was Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 you have special items called charms which only have an effect if they're in your inventory.
Lol, and i though that was only my idea and only few my guildies hear about it from me - and that's why it is not on this list. Obviously, i was wrong...
in regards to the Emerald Dream, i was watching Mark Kern talk about some old dev stories when Classic first came out. it was originally planned to be where you went when you died. it would be like a mirror world of azeroth and you still had to go to where you died if you wanted to respawn. or you could just stay in the ED version of azeroth and quest/adventure there instead.
sounds ludicrously ambitious to me, but they had a lot of crazy (awesome) ideas back then.
That sounds quite awesome xD
That sounds like a very strange idea. Why would a druid exclusive place be the place where our hero's soul resides? What would happen if we die there? It sounds like a very interesting idea, but not detailed enough.
STOP WITH THE SPOILERS FOR NEXT EXPAC ON LIVE!
@@hunlepto2239 Its because world of warcraft is also a lovecraft story and one of his quotes is "That which may eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die" Which has been shown to be a reference to the old gods not dying but simply going to sleep and that death and sleep are interchangeable.
Therefore id think that; *Possible spoilers* 1 of 3 things is happening;
Azeroth is corrupted already,
Azeroth is the titan of Void/Death
The old gods are our actual creators not azeroth.
@@DJ_Treu Interesting outlook on that. That way, Emerald Dream would have given us alot more questions (and maybe answers inside) about Azeroth itself than what we currently have.
"like happiness existing"
big true
it does! Ofcourse, if you are in a depression it´s hard to believe that. Don´t project your own negative views as facts.
when i started with wow i thought hunter could raise his pet and use it as his mount.
#somechanges
Lol
when I played around tbc, my brother told me you got a saddle item
me not that kind of tiger
@@goldencommon2266 Lmao
I remember everyone talking about Tauren Totem weapons, being a Tauren warrior. I spent a long time hoping one would drop
Ooh yes!
Saaaaaaaaame! The intro cinematic with a tauren wielding a totem weapon was what made me roll a tauren.
I realized later ofc it was just a reference to the tauren wielding Totems in WC3
I played through Beta. I remember grouping with someone in ashenvale and both of us dying. As we both died, we hit release, zoned back to the graveyard and fell through the world. We fell for a short time and eventually zoned into... You guessed it, The Emerald Dream. Being a ghost and not knowing at the time how to turn off the ghost effect we both ran around this zone for a while, trying to find a way to get rezzed. At this point, we were basically stuck and had to open a ticket to a GM. I remember the GM scolding us for being in the zone until I explained to them what happened.
All I remember from the zone was that it had very large trees but other than that, it was basically flat. Always thought they were going to release that zone eventually. Anyway, cool little memory I have from playing in the beta.
Too bad there’s no footage of this. It sounds pretty cool
@@BullFrogFace cap
“Outlandish theories”
=]
Classy :D
Also, pretty much lost it at xxlegolaszxx =)))
"Why have the dark portal on the log in screen?"
That's a line that hits close to the old MMO days. The early MMOs weren't 'just a game' you played into. It was like 'walking into a new world.' There weren't all those game guides where everyone knew everything. It was a foreign new world with mystery at every corner!
The dark portal on the loading screen was like your portal from your computer going into Azeroth. A portal between the real world and Azeroth. That's why the portal is on the loading screen, lol.
That tavern music in the beginning gets me every single time
its Final Fantasy music xD
A strong rumor/myth back in the day, was that if you leveld up engineering, you'd get to craft and pilot your very own shredder, if you went goblin engineering of course. And there even was a quest where you had to collect some manual pages of a shredder pilot guide.
The biggest myth: thinking you were prepared
In the vein of the Emerald Dream and having "finished" the Eranikus questline, I'd love to see a "Best Classic questlines that were abandoned," next!
It's funny how most of those things actually came out in Legion (Emerald Dream, wieldable uncorrupted Ashbringer, warglaives...), like the devs had stumbled upon an old roadmap that was scrapped when they were working on TBC XD
And it all sucked because by the time Legion came out blizzard completely lost their mojo.
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Legion was awesome, idk what you're talking about
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Dude Legion was pretty damn good. let me guess you liked Cata LUL
@@neji275 I liked the begining of Cata much more than i liked Legon, that's for sure. The end of Cata sucked about as much as the end of Legion though.
@self replicating whatnot. my issue is that with legion we had a pretty inane grind...for just about everything. And then for some weird reason...oh lets make it all ground based because...uh er uh reasons? oO. The legendaries were fantastic in some cases, and then lame in others. The real issue I had was the mis-use of the quest board. A ton of quests hit a arbituary wall for example, or just stopped. It'd build up to this potentially really neet thing . Just to send a followers on it.
That said: man finally being able to have the option to have that was totes.lol.
Their was Cata? oO :P
Congrats on 300k brother!
I remember a colleague telling me how he went to the Badlands as a lowbie. He made a mad dash for the Dark Portal, thinking he would go through before the aggroed monsters would murder him. Only he went through it and he didn't go anywhere but behind it. And then the monsters sent him back to the graveyard.
I heard they are gonna make Pandaren a playable race in the Burning Crusade
What..? That's stupid! Blizzard would never do something stupid like that!
@@cherrywaveess but... but they did bfa
I like panda.
Even though its GAY.
I am so embarrassed I like the race
@@Nico-pl6yf that is 100% false... they did it like 3 expansions before bfa.
that was true tho. The first expansion was originally south seas with pandarens as alliance race (probably goblins for horde but that's just my guess). but there was some technical limitation that made it impossible, and they already had alot of outland related stuff ready for 1.13 patch, so they did outland instead. Of course pandarens didn't fit that expansion so they came up with draenei.
I was a Horde player on Daggerspine when Kuroma was active. I do not believe that the account was played by only one person, as the character was on seemingly 24/7. You could ALWAYS find Kuroma in Alterac Valley, usually hanging around the alliance graveyard in the middle, and always in cat form. He would basically never shift out of cat form, not even when it would easily save his life. Really lazy, and pathetic in a 1v1, he was there ONLY to farm honor.
I'm pretty sure that the alliance hated him more than we did, since he kept a lot of other people from reaching rank 14.
Wouldn’t be too hard to write a program to enter a queue turn into cat and run to a point
I kept thinking about the first rumors of GM island and how there was certainly a way to get there by natural means. Also being able to unlock a way into old iron-forge.
Great video and solid top 10 I remember just about all of these happening at the time. Freaking classic times for sure.
"Going back to the days of the loch ness monster... big foot... happiness existing..." LOL TRUE
The Dark Portal myth was actually solved with the release of "The World of Warcraft Diary" by John Staats.
In the book, he explains that the reason the Dark Portal could be found all over the place was because... they weren't sure where they wanted to have the portal. Yes, even though it's supposed to have a fixed position in the lore.
I saw another interview where they stated that it was a placeholder for dungeon entrances until they could design an actual dungeon exterior. That was their explanation for the one underwater in azshara
Do whatever is best for the game and then adapt the story around it
there is non insignificant amount of 'magic' that we have lost in video games, from how much information we have access to these days. prior to the internet having all the answers, the myths, the legends, the stories we shared.... they added wonder to our experience. all of these are things modern players will not experience, and thats a shame.
the biggest myth: you think you do, but you don't
This is definitely the biggest myth, and the greatest irony.
You believing this is the most ironic thing
@@ericmartinez8344 and yet they dont even reach the sub numbers of bfa start...big deal...
I feel it depends more on the person. I personally thought it would be fun to try wow classic, but after a while I just didn't enjoy it as much as retail
second biggest: layering won't come back
Thanks for mentioning my channel! Really cool video; I have always enjoyed exploring pre-Cataclysm world and wondering about the purpose or origins of some unusual locations. I am also so glad that the Emerald Dream was finally sort of added in Legion, it was a favourite place of mine.
Yikes this was so awesome! I still remember many of those myths and how we spent countless hours searching for them. The tiger cave was new to me though! Ahh, those were the days when fishing for the Ashbringer. Thanks for this and all of your videos man!
What i love about your channel is that, you will launch video of something i never thought or asked for, and enjoy every second of it, and this is another one, wasn't thinking about such theme, but hey, here is a new video, and man it's worth the time :)
Great video mate.
Now that I had a long week I’m rewarded with a mad season video on a nice Saturday afternoon
Quit wow like 5 years ago, but I always come back to your videos. New ones, and rewatching old ones. Amazing to watch and listen while I do other stuff like chores, or taking a walk etc. Dunno if you'll ever see this comment but wish you the best. Happy New year!
3:48 I still use this noise to this day when talking about juicy stats. Such epicness.
it’s really cool to think jeff kaplan was working on a game my parents were playing when i was like 3 to now working on overwatch, a game i’ve been playing for a few years.
8:15 While you couldn't enter Karazhan in vanilla, you could enter its basement! You had to have a mage sheep you in a duel and then you would clip through a portcullis while in sheep form. Sometimes took a few tries. This entry was removed when they revamped Karazhan, but you get into a very similar place for the Lucid Nightmare quest now.
Yeah, the crypts
About entering the Dark Portal before TBC: If you watch the Behind the Scenes videos that were on the dvd, which came with Vanilla Collector's Edition, one of the Blizz employees are literally saying, that players will have to find a way to open the Dark Portal. While a bit vague, that certainly did not help quell the quest to enter the portal.
All the stuff that never made it into the game ... this is why I eventually want a Classic+ server, with all the stuff that was planned but never made it into the game because of time constraints.
I hear everywhere I turn that it's going to be like that. Like oldschool runescape and how they keep adding new content in an old format... tbh I can see the point, why have 4 different games of different versions of the game when you can have 2 really good ones with big communities instead of a handful of small ones
They need to do something with the Emerald portals
As much as part of me worries that the current team in charge of WoW wouldn't have what it takes to pull it off, I still can't deny how much I would pay to see this. So many incomplete ideas, so much lost potential - Hyjal, various dungeons that never came to be realized, and of course everything that was touched on in this video - and we have a unique opportunity to go back and see it all fleshed out now with the advent of Classic, if only Blizz would feel up to the task.
However, I think we all know it's never going to happen of course - most likely thing is they'll just release a new set of a servers for those interested in TBC and call it a day.
@Kid Icarus Exactly.. It'll be the same thing when they reverse the pruning in retail for the next xpac. They will just trickle a few old abilities back without creating the next evolution of class design and go "That's what you wanted, right?". They have no faith in themselves.
Id rather have this than re releasing expansions as well
I remember a friend of mine finding the tiger cave, and parking an alt there. He logged on daily at various intervals for months in hopes of the vendor spawning. Good times.
I love myths like this. It really compounds a game's sense of scale and mystery.
The stat line about Kuroma is awesome. Daggerspine was my home for all of vanilla and through wrath. I did many battlegrounds alongside Kuroma and his always present priest healer Angehoul (sp?) I want to say it was 9 months total he held GM...pretty frustrating for the rest of the people grinding. He also almost never spoke in chat which led to people spreading rumors he was a bot, which led him to start speaking in all 1’s and 0’s from time to time just to mess with people.
There’s a player currently that has the bengal tiger mount, it’s rumored to be make a wish
Do you have an armory link
www.wowhead.com/news/story-of-the-reins-of-the-bengal-tiger-special-make-a-wish-mount-unavailable-to-319136
Hayven Games, one of the best WoW youtubers ever. His videos are made with such love for WoW. I really miss youtube recommendation for his new videos.
R.I.P to a real one
I found his chanel when i had a two weeks of for learning for the finals, in every break i watched one vid from him until ive seen every video and then i saw his last one it hit me like a truck..
Even toda when i hear his music i got sad he was the man and i will never forget him
RIP BROTHER
@@benjijagermeister2956 Yeah, i do understand that. I found his channell long ago and liked it a lot. The amount of work and love he was puting into making of his videos was amazing, incredible. I watched all the new and old videos, few was still missing to watch and i saw the last thumbnail. The music together with the message in video description is incredible chilling even today. Few videos before he was talking about how everything is going nicely ... and suddenly he is gone. And those videos was made almost one after another. His intro music is almost hauntig now for me, such a sadness.
Setnja92 can‘t hold back teats when i see the thumbnail and hear the music.
Feel you bro
I found his channel on one of the first few wow videos he made when he had a small amount of subscribers. I watched his channel for so long, and was so happy for him when he started getting subscribers. When he got sick it was really sad, but I had hope he would pull through. His last video was devastating to me.
'Maybe if I try to go through the portal on a naked gnome with nothing but a banana in my inventory'
The classic Moon Guard strat.
Greetings from Norway! love your vids man! keep up the good work!
That 007 Goldeneye music though :D !!!
wooooo!
I thought I was hearing goldeneye music.
How I had always thought the login portal is that we are in a dreary world, and then we see the portal to azeroth, and we go into the world of warcraft.
I still remember to this day people talking about it in chat and ventrilo on different ways to purify it. Loved that mystery feeling back then when things were soo unknown.
7:00 Is that...a song from the nintendo 64 007 original soundtrack?? Or am I going crazy lol
N64*
your videos and especially your intro are really calming somehow. I have quit wow a long time ago but from time to time I like to pick up on whats new and how it develops. Your videos give great insight and somewhat bring back some memories.
The biggest myth of WoW is that you have to min/max to get anywhere ;)
What?
@@flip_shifty basically referring to people always saying you need this armour/build etc to do pvp/raids etc which is for the most part false.
What Kylu said ^^
Since classic came out, I realized that I was suffering reverse nostalgia. I remembered it as much harder and more aggravating that it really was.
Sadly
One of the weirder rumours I heard (more than once) was the the simultaneous death of all world bosses in vanilla would do 'something'
I remember joining raid group with my guild to explore areas full of elite mobs. Good times when some areas were a secret.
Its really cool to think that back then people actually thought the devs would have made an entire zone that was almost impossible to access but all but the most determined players, like an in game hunt for a kind of holy grail or lost ark.
How about this:
Make #ClassicWoWPlus , in which they would add/continue ALL that was planned from the beginning of vanilla !
Including, but not limited to most of the myths found in this video and all the incomplete quest lines / incomplete locations.
EDIT: If there are concerns with overlapping content of other expansions, we *could* consider this "the PLUS timeline".
Or just add it to current wow
14:42 nice one madseason
Wasn't the Bengal tiger added to the game recently for one player on the Make a Wish thing?
yep www.wowhead.com/news=295347/the-mystery-of-the-reins-of-the-bengal-tiger-mount-in-patch-8-2-5
Yeh, if it follows the same path as pepes whistle, it might become available to all players.
I started playing WoW around 3 months ago. Now binge watching your videos - so much to learn! :D
The Bengal tiger mount was a make-a-wish reward, I just saw a post about it on reddit a few days ago?
The raid loot was reviled during BC on the community forums. If I recall correctly, it was randomly generated the moment the raid instance was created with the millisecond to a power being the variable that controlled random nature.
The phrase "born again hardcore" comes from the movie Full Metal Jacket.
I don’t play. I do other games, but your coverage of this games culture is vastly enjoyable and I thank you for your time investment and sharing.
Hey what's up video guys here back with another MadSeason for you
man, dopefish brings back old memories.
I remember getting behind the instance portal of karazhan back in the day and there was a big smiley face under the building in the terrain.
"The wowiest wow wow that ever wow wowed" - Wowington Wow Wow
Wow.
I love the old Nintendo game music choices you use for your videos.
I wish rank 15 existed, so then I could be called “Deathlord of the Undercity”
As a Mage u can Enter Karazan! I know because I did in classic jsut last week. You can Blink inside but there isnt anything to do there. You can chill behind the bars and thats it and if you are unlucky you fall through the map and respawn after a Crash right in front of the bars of Karazan
Now gotta wait for the baldman to watch this^
Ew
I'm working on a game for my internship. And I have to focus on what I'm doing. But I can have a small floating player in the corner of one of my screens. But most videos are just way too distracting. I can't focus on what I'm doing. I can only watch your videos and actually hear what you're telling. And focus on the work I'm doing. I think your voice is really relaxing. And the jokes told really monotone. It's perfect. We call it 'dry humor' in dutch. And it's the best kind of humor.
Biggest myth not listed: Everquest 2, Vanguard, LotRO, Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Darkfall, Tabula Rasa, Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars Old Republic, Black Desert, Final Fantasy 14, Runescape Update, All Points Bulletin, etc, were all going to kill WoW. 😂
I love how when u talk about classic, it was all about players trying what works, hoping and just grinding. Not like now when WOTLK came out again people have internet for everysingle thing in the game... I wish i played back then.
Not gonna lie the Glaive thing still bothers me to this day, they're *the* iconic Night Elf unit used by their main frontline unit in Warcraft 3 and the Warden Hero unit used a circular glaive-type weapon, how it took all the way til BFA for anything like the three bladed glaive to come into the game boggles my mind.
And even then they fucked it up by making it demonhunter exclusive. It should have been a one handed weapon option from the beginning darnit
What an awesome video, congras on 300K!
Guys I found a mysterious dark portal in the blasted lands. Anyone have an idea what it is? Blizz might be planning something I’m so excited.
These days, just planning in sucking up to the Chinese government lol
Super Mario Sunshine in the end. Great memories!
And another great video! :)
14:43 "...Outlandish theories"
I see what you did there
I was the guild luck token in vanilla/BC. Regular raid member was arrested in Vanilla and left a spot open. I was only 60 online who in guild who wasn't already in the raid (and attuned). So My Boomkin got the invite. They didn't know what to do, since the guy I was replacing was normally who zoned in first and I wasn't aware of this.
I showed up and said sorry for making everyone wait on me, and ran into portal. Ended up getting better loot than they normally did (the boomkin buff was also apreciated by everyone) and I ended up becoming the new luck token going forward.
I tried to figure out that nude code for Tomb Raider so diligently....
In a way, I still am....
I still am.
Amazing and very funny detail!!
Well done Madseason
I haven't even seen the video, I automatically press like
Love how you used the Goldeneye Dam OST. Worked so well
so banned for exploiting something they wouldnt have had if GM hadnt screwed up... was the GM reprimanded or was the player the only one who saw punishment?
Why should the GM be punished? It was an exceedingly small chance of happening honest mistake that they probably didn't even realize until it was too late. The player who had the GM item knew what the effect did and willingly chose to exploit it over and over, so they're the ones who get punished.
Always some people defending exploiting because "it's not their fault that it's possible".
Just like the people who find something on a street and are very surprised that they face theft charges if they keep it. "It's not my fault. They shouldn't have lost it!"
Or all these people "accidentally" getting their whole account worth of cash from the ATM with swapped notes by mistake. "But that's not my fault, they should have fixed it. I didn't even know anything is wrong. I just happened to withdraw 1000$, then put 2000 back into my account and withdraw them again. Pretty normal. What do you mean to pay it back. No. It's mine now. No, that's not stealing, officer, it's not my fault, it's their fault. Why should I be reprimanded for their mistakes?!"
How did the GM screw up though?
Back in Classic, I heard a rumor that druids could change their aquatic form into a shark through a quest in Theramore. I was devastated upon realizing it was false.
Biggest myth of them all. That endgame content was harder then retail.
@@TheMagache there are poeple who still believe this...
@@varadigabor7812 I look back at how I played back then and I was complete utter trash at the game compared to now and I didn't even think the raids were that hard back then.
The best one is number one LOL, the fact that they actually made u do all the things people tried over the years for the pure version just to obtain the new alternate corrupted version, that is so sick lol.
The Evolution of World of Warcraft Episode 3 anytime soon? :D
That’s some impressive Perfect Dark music! Wow appreciate the content man.
Waiting for the" Asmongold reacts to Top 10 Myths of World of Warcraft" in....Three...Two....One.....
believer1980 i have my balls full of this Asmonbald reaction
waiting for the same fucking original comment in every wow video in Three...
oh , nevermind.
i'm waiting for "Asmongold reacts to the self realisation that he is a sad dislikeable prick", Wont happen though as he has no self awareness.
@@JudgeFish Considering his viewership numbers, you're probably in the minority.
Another interesting and well-crafted video as always. Congrats on 300k!
I don't care what people say, I like your voice. You're like the white Morgan Freeman.
Wow great video man. Brings back fond memories. Love this stuff thanks
"[...] or happiness existing" that hurt
Amazing video as always! Keep it up MadSeason :)
Someone has showed up online with the Bengal tiger.
make a wish kid mount
@@sixfootgiant14 That's shit man.
@@sixfootgiant14 not make a wish, but that kids not gonna make it.
Just know his lifespan has been severely reduced due to the grind.
sit back, crack a breew, its a new madseasonshow videeo
I would love if blizzard added all the myth stuff to "Classic" wow, that would be so great!
Then it wouldn’t be classic
Nothing like lying down on the couch, sipping hot tea and listening to the intro of this channel.
Not notification squad but still here because I don't have a life
Same
I relate
The tiger dropped in original Zul Gurub, super low chance but there was an actual tiger, also there is a spectral tiger gained from the playing cards sets. Karazhan, in Wrath the devs started building the undercroft which in originality was as large below ground as it was above ground with tricks and traps and some pretty creepy furniture. You used to get a mage to sheep you through the doorway, was pretty cool.
"Outlandish" theories. Hahaha. Classic.
I love your content man. You’ve became one if my fav youtubers good job man!
Spoiler: player actions have no effect on loot tables.
I’ll have you know my favorite sports team wouldn’t have won if I didn’t stand on one leg and cluck like a chicken
I mean. Killing the boss will affect whether or not he drops loot :P
It's not like raids had timing requirements for loot i mean it would be crazy if a mount was not lootable because player's actions were so slow. It would be un"bear"able.
Awesome work my friend !!! keep it up