Rutger Bregman: ‘Geert Wilders is the most successful utopian thinker’ ► www.theguardian.com/global/video/2017/mar/09/rutger-bregman-geert-wilders-is-the-most-successful-utopian-thinker-video Or a longer version here ► ruclips.net/video/LsutNKH7KiE/видео.html
slow down with the ouragey clickbait and give this another title because this makes him seem like a supporter of that and you know thtat people will think that at first glance.
Good man! Give him a medal! "1,500 jets have flown in here to hear David Attenborough speak about how we're wrecking the planet". The quote of the year so far!
Even better is the dude who stands up next and basically begs to talk about anything other than taxes. This is a high water mark for dark finance based comedy that may never be matched again.
Bimhuis Workshop Improvisation But i do! that’s why i can value his thinking, and that of many others. I find him enrichening and I am grateful for that. how about you? just thinking on your own? that must be quite boring.
We know tax avoidance is the most important issue. Every rich guy knows how to avoid taxes. Philantrophy is just one of them, tax heavens are almost everywhere. Banks promote this all the time to its rich customers. Bussiness as usual. That is why rich people looking for answers to inequality is a joke. Almost every rich guy there avoids taxes, through philantrophy, tax heavens, accounting schemes.
@@GarrusN7 Ireland has lower corporate taxes but it's not our main cash flow by any means and it's also available for Irish companies (that ridiculous loophole apple used is gone) but we're perfecfly entitled to tax companies less than other countries our social issues are down to terrible govermenf admin not tax. They offer 1000s of people employment which helps our economy even further. Our main industry by a distance is still agriculture. The reality is that if we taxed as much the MNCs would be fine because our other costs (transport, rent, employment) is so much higher than elsewhere. We've a right to be tax competitive. Tax becomes an issue when you have individuals just inheriting huge sums with little or no tax
@@jeffrey89095 Why do you have te right to be tax comparative? Specifically when talking about tax avoidance. Why do nations have the right to bring in some money by allowing companies to exist in that nation on paper, costing it other nations billions of dollers?
@@YraxZovaldo why do different countries have different wages allowing companies to have lower wage costs? What about taxes on fuel impacting Transport costs? Essentially every cost in Ireland is higher than elsewhere so it's offset with tax deductions which makes us higely competitive, there are of course companies that exist as shells but the big names you always hear of have huge offices and huge staff.
You are kidding !? right ? Holland is THE tax heaven of EU ! + Luxemburg / all under the toghtfull eye of the ,,specialist" of the matter : J-C Juncker and his DUTCH henchmen ! And don't bring Ireland as an argument , since is the product of the same thinking ; and ,at least, they have the alibi of 2009 crisis .
I seldom kid on Utube... They got movies for that... But back to point you're failing to make... Just because our politicians mess up as bad as all the others doesn't mean this guy isn't right.
Sorry ! As an adult : teach me ,please ! Your politicians don't represent you? It is not a democratic representative sistem in Nederland ? lt is not ,,the point " to act in accord to the theory / also ,since all those movies are that well known and in the same time old and actual ?
i am proud too. i have been following him for a while and thinkers like him give me hope, especially for the future of my grandchild. we do not need those manipulative smallminded politicians, but realistic thinkers. ga zo door knul!
"The dignity of a job" is what they like to talk about forgetting that they are the reason why a lot of jobs are not dignified. If there's so much dignity in a job, then why do rich folks not have one?
The dignity of a job. Hahahahaha! “I’m working 2 minimum wage jobs; I live paycheck to paycheck; never travel and hardly ever go out; but thank god for my boring and meaningless job where my soul and dreams get crushed on a daily basis!” What people actually want is a job that pays well; not just enough to get by and preferably a meaningful one. But yeah ... what do I even expect from Mr. Let’s-Not-Talk-About-Taxes ...
TheImpetus Are you thick? If a person works two jobs and still doesn’t get by; what are they supposed to do? Quit one or both those jobs? Lots of free time now but no money for the education or food or anything. Use non-existent savings? Basic living costs have increased MUCH more than wages have in the last 50 years. Maybe taking a third job would be a nice option to you? Work them to death so all their problems disappear. Eureka! How empathic and thoughtful!
@Janusha Makes sense. Lots of the many people there who vote against their own economic interest probably don't regard themselves as poor or struggling. They're just temporarily not rich. "Just gotta keep working hard and ANY DAY NOW money's going to trickle down from the top. "
@TheImpetus If you're actually addressing me and not poor people in general: I've got a relatively well paying and very stable job and my life is definitely not screwed up, but thanks for worrying about my well-being. More people should be like that. ;) I'll agree with you there, though: If you're hardly able to support yourself: definitely don't have kids! But here's the thing: poverty, being under-educated & breeding like rabbits are three things that go hand in hand. Eradicate one and it's only a matter of time that the rest follows. It's gonna be near impossible to stop poor and under-educated people from having unprotected sex. It's also going to be near impossible for them to get good education if they don't have the free time and resources to pay for that education. Also: sometimes people already have kids when an unforeseen stroke of bad luck completely bankrupts them. Should they and their kids just suck it up and be content to be stuck in a cycle that's almost impossible to escape?
You're twisting her words though. What you're saying is not that different from what she was saying here, if you have seen the full clip. The dignity of a job means that one shouldn't have to work 80 hours a week in inhumane conditions just to be one medical bill away from sleeping on the street.
@TheImpetus Will you pay the education so he can upgrade his skill ? Will you also pay for the lost of much-needed money since part of his work-hours goes into learning now ?
Yahoo's former CEO, a great example of another out of touch elitist...Him and Michael Dell should have a debate with Rutger Bregman. Davos should title it "How out of touch are we?"
There's not much dignity in having a job that doesn't pay enough to feed a family and keep a roof over their house. And that's on top of issues like the one mentioned here where workers aren't allowed the dignity of a freaking toilet break.
this... The Associated Press September 27, 2012 BIG PAY BUMP: Yahoo's new chief financial officer, Ken Goldman, is starting off with a $600,000 salary and a bonus of up to $540,000. That's a significant raise from the $327,818 salary and maximum bonus of roughly $200,000 that he received as CFO at security software specialist Fortinet Inc. LONG-TERM INCENTIVES: Goldman, 63, also is getting restricted stock-base awards valued at a total of $12 million. They will vest gradually over the next three to four years.
If you are familiar with Dutch politics you would also know we have a rather large number of parties from the Left to the Right side of the political spectrum. Truly democratic but it also means that the people who make up my gouvernment are not always my personal choice. Not all Americans like Trump... Not all Russians like Putin. Same here but with more flavors... meaning they do not always represent my believes even tho they're chosen by the majority.
"What people really want is the dignity of a job". No. We really want the wealth of the planet, equally distributed among every single human, such that all our basic wants of food, water, shelter and safety are taken care of. We'll figure out the rest ourselves, thanks very much.
Wealth of the planet equally distributed to everybody? lmao sure you just need to erase all the borders and establish a new world order first and that'll be easy to do. Back in reality though a lot of issues can be fixed in some, not all, countries if the ultra rich actually paid their fair share and stopped raking their employees over the coals all the time.
If we forced wealth to be distributed equally across all people, regardless of how much they contributed to society, what would be the incentive to work hard? You will always be stuck at the same level, even if you distinguish yourself.
My college professor informed us that 38 percent of the tax budget in the States goes to the military ... over 1.000 billion dollars per year goes to military budget globally, and his idea is: how about we re-invest that in peace and solving global warming for starters... you rich people who have al the power to make change, wouldn't have to cry about loosing a bit of money.
I believe the rich know that there HAS to be significant reforms. And fast. This guy wasn't invited by accident. Come on now. Just think about it for a minute.
Listen to the rich guy say " I know what people want" And he has those people in front of him. And they are telling him they want to talk about taxes. lol
ACCOUNTING COMPANIES NEED TO BE REGULATED, just like BANKS. They explicitly provide services to help companies minimize their tax bill by transferring profits via complex company structures to the lowest possible tax domicile.
Rutger Bregman: rich people need to pay their share of taxes Rich people: No, we don't want to. Come up with a different way to lift people out of poverty. We want to keep our money... even though some of it comes from government subsidies that should be used for programs that benefit the people instead of multinational companies that won't pay their share. And how does a person worth that much money know what people really want? I don't want a job as such, I want to be a lyricist or a writer of some sort. Not the easiest thing to become when you're working 40-60 hours a week to survive.
In my opinion the phrase "at a firefighters conference, and no one is allowed to speak about water . . . " is expressing it mildly. I would rather say "no one likes to talk about how to extinguish a fire, at a gathering of arsonists".
Just taxing the rich more is not a solution- it's a transfer of wealth from the rich to the poor (via the government). The government generally cannot spend the money as well as the private sector (if you didn't earn the money in the first place, you really have little care how it's spent). In 2019, the top 1% of taxpayers paid about 40% of total taxes in the US. And the top 50% of taxpayers paid almost 100% of total taxes. So about half the American population pay close to zero taxes. The question is how to make these people more productive- and a transfer of wealth doesn't provide the incentive. I think a conspicuous consumption tax on the rich is fairer.
They’re talking about tax avoidance because of how much of a problem it is, and how much it would solve if it was fixed. To focus on other issues would be a disservice to all but the rich.
Brilliant and simple solutions - pay your taxes and stop your exploitation! There is still hope for humanity, at least if we can break up the transnational monopolies and billionaires hold on power and information.
I can never hear anything on this topic without seeing George Osborn's sicking little smirk whenever a situation called for him to pretend that tax wasn't just for the little people.
Aaaaaaand he was never invited there again xD Question: If the "Great Reset", would bring about a "global government".... does that mean we will finally have "global tax" for all the mega rich companies with the tax havens? 🤔
Everybody in the comment section is congratulating the Dutch historian for apparently saying a great truth about tax avoidance of wealthy people. I think many are just missing the real issue here. The real issue is how governments manage hence spend the money collected through taxes. It's totally nonsense to talk about taxes if then people don't talk about how the money collected from it is spent.
The fact that he is part of a group of rich people making policies for the rest of society should tell you how bad this is! We dont need these people! Actually if these people would get their nose out of our business we can sole the worlds problems
Richard Ralph Roehl they are already eating us. Only reason vast majority of the wealthy have any wealth is because workers give up big part of the financial gain of their labor. If that principle is right or wrong can be debated. But it is a big problem today when 5 people in america own as much as the bottom 50%. And 1 in 5 children starve, and people don’t have access to healthcare and so on. Even in a country like sweden it differs 18 years in life expectancy between wealthy and poor people. These people aren’t innovators and jobb creators, they are parasites that living in super excess, and the majority is paying for it. Why should 1000 families have trouble giving their children the basics like education, healthcare, good quality food and some fun in life, and have a paid vacation to hang out with their children. Just so one family will be able to afford private planes, yachts, multiple homes and not need to ever work for multiple generations? It is not even about paying their fair share. It is about paying back what never belonged to them in the first place.
You make a huge assumption that giving money to the government is a better route. Why should the government make decisions on what to do with people's money?
Video is misleading. I agree with Bregman, and his overall point, but the video is sliced and spliced and generated to get a certain point across. It's either poor editing or its vituperative journalism, and being that this is the Guardian, I would say the latter.
I watched the full video - it isn't misleading.The parts removed were where Ken Goldman acted like a manchild throwing a tantrum because the 1st speaker used a swear word and he disapproved. Some of the examples given by the final speaker were not shown like the 3 taxi drivers sleeping in 1 room in shifts because though they all had full time jobs, they still couldn't afford rent. There was condensation but no twisting of ideas.
Es asi, este mundo se esta volviendo injusto y la gente no se da cuenta. Y admira a líderes como Elon Musk o Bill Gates que lo que hacen es acumular riqueza a costa de los demás. Un desastre.
I can't blame an individual or company for doing whatever they can do to minimise their legal tax burden. It's up to politicians and regulators to close the loopholes.
@@ampthilluk Actually I don't want to sound pesimistic. This AOC tax idea is really good, I was thinking maybe to put a limit on the gap between the poor and the rich, but it's kind of difficult. AOC got a better idea.
What was at first funny is now too painful to hear Rut in what amounts to stand-up comedy act - against an audience - as Rut's got the nerve to speak out against tax avoidance while he's paid by 'Bloomsbury-ir' using the very same tax evasion he cries he's so against. Rut won't expand any utopian ideas of David Graeber whom he's all too often merely copied and rehashed. No continuation / further development / new idea. It's but Rut: Find quotes; Collate 'em; Print it; Give talk$. Alas, if Rutger wrote with an honorable intention, or if deep down he was descent, not purely selfish, at the very least his books would be free to download.
we really need more than ever to unite the world in a single country and one government: the only way to stop people from avoiding taxes is to eliminate the loopholes that allow them to do it. Everywhere on the planet. They're not able to take responsibility by them self if they did they wouldn't be so rich.
Some say he won't be invited back, but I ask you this: Bill Gates invited me to his house and when I am in, I start telling him why he should pay more taxes because others are starving. Would you blame Bill Gates for NEVER inviting me back?
if you are ignorant enough to believe that tax avoidance is the main issue of the day, you need to read some facts. the bottom 50% in u.s pay no federal tax. the top 10% pay more than 50% on income tax. if the tax rate on the top 20% were to be 100%, it wouldn't pay the deficit.
"Taxation is theft" If you can guarantee you won't EVER use any infrastructure, police, fire department and what not, sure. But that's just not a thing, especially in the US.
I credit Rutger Bregman for his clarity on the issue of tax evasion; but he's dead wrong on his view of Geert Wilders. Geert Wilders is a champion of European secularism and freedom. He spoke out on Islam's troubling extremist tendencies and unchecked immigration from Morocco and the middle east. He called Islam out for its problems with integration long before anyone else had the courage to, even at risk to his own life. The guy has to live in fear of assasination for speaking out in defense of liberalism, something the cowardly, supposedly liberal left-wingers were too cowardly to do Don't believe me. What did we just see happened in Morrocco just before Christmas 2018? Yeah that's right … another gruesome double decapitation of two Scandinavian girls at the hands of Islamist/Extremist fanatics. So again Rutger, great job in bringing tax avoidance into the spotlight. But go ahead and just shut up and leave Geert Wilders (the true hero of Holland) alone.
Tax the rich sounds nice. But the rich can move their jurisdiction and avoid if the government ask too much taxes. 10% of the rich pay over 70% of all taxes, do you want more? You cannot. The only way is to destroy the economy itself because you have anger for having less then others. It is shameful for Westerners who are so well off compared with history and non Westerners to complain about the rich. It is all envy that arises now because the middle class in the West have to give up some UNEARNED wealth to the 500 million people who came out of poverty mainly in Asia (thanks to capitalism, not government policy). Did Bill Gates or Steve Jobs steal anything from the poor? No they added wealth to the total economy. Wealth inequality is not the real problem (it's is the result). It's the scapegoat of the Left Migration is not the real problem (it's the result). It's the scapegoat of the Right. Please address the real problem: Resentment of the middle class all over the world is caused by the decline of wealth of the West per worked hour since 1988 and the rapid change of the cultural environment due to globalisation. This is caused by Technology, Globalisation, Opening up of Asian economies to become productive. We cannot remove these factors without giving up on our wealth so we have to deal with them in a way that we avoid havoc.
@@G94-u4c There are a lot more people who wanna evade taxes than just the rich alone. This excludes people who only care about money because most just do it to be able to live in a normal way. Why do you think the black market is b(l)ooming?
Dan TheMan really? I think you are missing the point. Majority rules and minority rights, same ideology was used to rationalize inequality, if you don’t like it go elsewhere. You can not effectively bargain without equal footing, most Americans work for others, and government has to step in to protect their rights.
Optional? That depends upon to a large extent about the various local, regional, and even national job markets. It depends even more upon if someone can afford to move from an area with few jobs to one with many.
Rutger Bregman: ‘Geert Wilders is the most successful utopian thinker’ ► www.theguardian.com/global/video/2017/mar/09/rutger-bregman-geert-wilders-is-the-most-successful-utopian-thinker-video
Or a longer version here ► ruclips.net/video/LsutNKH7KiE/видео.html
slow down with the ouragey clickbait and give this another title because this makes him seem like a supporter of that and you know thtat people will think that at first glance.
I second what the other guy said
You should quote him full ... this looks like he sopports Wilders. Far from it.
I second what the other said too
Guardian News ¿¿¿ En Español ??
Good man! Give him a medal! "1,500 jets have flown in here to hear David Attenborough speak about how we're wrecking the planet". The quote of the year so far!
Amen! Can I quote you? :-)
Sure can, but more to the point - quote Rutger Bregman. @@surfraptor
Even better is the dude who stands up next and basically begs to talk about anything other than taxes. This is a high water mark for dark finance based comedy that may never be matched again.
Still actual:)
I guess he wont be invited back...
lmao
who cares, he said what he had to say. i love this guy. i advise everyone to read his books.
Bimhuis Workshop Improvisation But i do! that’s why i can value his thinking, and that of many others. I find him enrichening and I am grateful for that.
how about you? just thinking on your own? that must be quite boring.
@Bimhuis Workshop Improvisation with that attitude mankind would still be living in caves.
I think i gonna read his books.
HAHA!! He unmasked those hypocrites by simply telling it as it is!!!
We know tax avoidance is the most important issue. Every rich guy knows how to avoid taxes. Philantrophy is just one of them, tax heavens are almost everywhere. Banks promote this all the time to its rich customers. Bussiness as usual. That is why rich people looking for answers to inequality is a joke. Almost every rich guy there avoids taxes, through philantrophy, tax heavens, accounting schemes.
Pretty sure Switzerland and Ireland run 100% on just being tax havens.
The only reason why Tax Heavens exists is because Tax Hells existed in the first place.
@@GarrusN7 Ireland has lower corporate taxes but it's not our main cash flow by any means and it's also available for Irish companies (that ridiculous loophole apple used is gone) but we're perfecfly entitled to tax companies less than other countries our social issues are down to terrible govermenf admin not tax. They offer 1000s of people employment which helps our economy even further. Our main industry by a distance is still agriculture. The reality is that if we taxed as much the MNCs would be fine because our other costs (transport, rent, employment) is so much higher than elsewhere. We've a right to be tax competitive. Tax becomes an issue when you have individuals just inheriting huge sums with little or no tax
@@jeffrey89095 Why do you have te right to be tax comparative? Specifically when talking about tax avoidance. Why do nations have the right to bring in some money by allowing companies to exist in that nation on paper, costing it other nations billions of dollers?
@@YraxZovaldo why do different countries have different wages allowing companies to have lower wage costs? What about taxes on fuel impacting Transport costs? Essentially every cost in Ireland is higher than elsewhere so it's offset with tax deductions which makes us higely competitive, there are of course companies that exist as shells but the big names you always hear of have huge offices and huge staff.
My hero of the day. Proud to be Dutch on days like these. Goed gedaan jochie!!!
You are kidding !? right ? Holland is THE tax heaven of EU ! + Luxemburg / all under the toghtfull eye of the ,,specialist" of the matter : J-C Juncker and his DUTCH henchmen ! And don't bring Ireland as an argument , since is the product of the same thinking ; and ,at least, they have the alibi of 2009 crisis .
I seldom kid on Utube... They got movies for that... But back to point you're failing to make... Just because our politicians mess up as bad as all the others doesn't mean this guy isn't right.
Sorry ! As an adult : teach me ,please ! Your politicians don't represent you? It is not a democratic representative sistem in Nederland ? lt is not ,,the point " to act in accord to the theory / also ,since all those movies are that well known and in the same time old and actual ?
Only exceptions to the rule.
i am proud too. i have been following him for a while and thinkers like him give me hope, especially for the future of my grandchild. we do not need those manipulative smallminded politicians, but realistic thinkers. ga zo door knul!
"The dignity of a job" is what they like to talk about forgetting that they are the reason why a lot of jobs are not dignified. If there's so much dignity in a job, then why do rich folks not have one?
He was absolutely right. He was asking all the right questions. Truth is uncomfortable for some to hear.
The dignity of a job. Hahahahaha!
“I’m working 2 minimum wage jobs; I live paycheck to paycheck; never travel and hardly ever go out; but thank god for my boring and meaningless job where my soul and dreams get crushed on a daily basis!”
What people actually want is a job that pays well; not just enough to get by and preferably a meaningful one.
But yeah ... what do I even expect from Mr. Let’s-Not-Talk-About-Taxes ...
TheImpetus Are you thick? If a person works two jobs and still doesn’t get by; what are they supposed to do?
Quit one or both those jobs? Lots of free time now but no money for the education or food or anything.
Use non-existent savings? Basic living costs have increased MUCH more than wages have in the last 50 years.
Maybe taking a third job would be a nice option to you? Work them to death so all their problems disappear. Eureka! How empathic and thoughtful!
@Janusha Makes sense.
Lots of the many people there who vote against their own economic interest probably don't regard themselves as poor or struggling. They're just temporarily not rich. "Just gotta keep working hard and ANY DAY NOW money's going to trickle down from the top. "
@TheImpetus If you're actually addressing me and not poor people in general: I've got a relatively well paying and very stable job and my life is definitely not screwed up, but thanks for worrying about my well-being. More people should be like that. ;)
I'll agree with you there, though: If you're hardly able to support yourself: definitely don't have kids!
But here's the thing: poverty, being under-educated & breeding like rabbits are three things that go hand in hand. Eradicate one and it's only a matter of time that the rest follows.
It's gonna be near impossible to stop poor and under-educated people from having unprotected sex. It's also going to be near impossible for them to get good education if they don't have the free time and resources to pay for that education.
Also: sometimes people already have kids when an unforeseen stroke of bad luck completely bankrupts them. Should they and their kids just suck it up and be content to be stuck in a cycle that's almost impossible to escape?
You're twisting her words though. What you're saying is not that different from what she was saying here, if you have seen the full clip. The dignity of a job means that one shouldn't have to work 80 hours a week in inhumane conditions just to be one medical bill away from sleeping on the street.
@TheImpetus Will you pay the education so he can upgrade his skill ? Will you also pay for the lost of much-needed money since part of his work-hours goes into learning now ?
Yahoo's former CEO, a great example of another out of touch elitist...Him and Michael Dell should have a debate with Rutger Bregman. Davos should title it "How out of touch are we?"
There's not much dignity in having a job that doesn't pay enough to feed a family and keep a roof over their house. And that's on top of issues like the one mentioned here where workers aren't allowed the dignity of a freaking toilet break.
Amen!
I wonder why Bono didn't have enough courage to say this. Bono is a hypocrit.
Bono has / had a shell company in Amsterdam to avoid paying taxes using the Dutch Sandwich, ironically. ;-)
Hipocracy is not one of the 7 deadly sins but it should be. It's the ultimate sin.
more fundamentally, he is a narcissist
The "Dignity of a JOB"????? Where the hell do you dignity from enslavement for sustenance?
this... The Associated Press
September 27, 2012
BIG PAY BUMP: Yahoo's new chief financial officer, Ken Goldman, is starting off with a $600,000 salary and a bonus of up to $540,000. That's a significant raise from the $327,818 salary and maximum bonus of roughly $200,000 that he received as CFO at security software specialist Fortinet Inc.
LONG-TERM INCENTIVES: Goldman, 63, also is getting restricted stock-base awards valued at a total of $12 million. They will vest gradually over the next three to four years.
My new hero
If you are familiar with Dutch politics you would also know we have a rather large number of parties from the Left to the Right side of the political spectrum. Truly democratic but it also means that the people who make up my gouvernment are not always my personal choice. Not all Americans like Trump... Not all Russians like Putin. Same here but with more flavors... meaning they do not always represent my believes even tho they're chosen by the majority.
"What people really want is the dignity of a job". No. We really want the wealth of the planet, equally distributed among every single human, such that all our basic wants of food, water, shelter and safety are taken care of. We'll figure out the rest ourselves, thanks very much.
Wealth of the planet equally distributed to everybody? lmao sure you just need to erase all the borders and establish a new world order first and that'll be easy to do.
Back in reality though a lot of issues can be fixed in some, not all, countries if the ultra rich actually paid their fair share and stopped raking their employees over the coals all the time.
If we forced wealth to be distributed equally across all people, regardless of how much they contributed to society, what would be the incentive to work hard? You will always be stuck at the same level, even if you distinguish yourself.
Jon Carter ah so you will be the one who makes communism work ?
My college professor informed us that 38 percent of the tax budget in the States goes to the military ... over 1.000 billion dollars per year goes to military budget globally, and his idea is: how about we re-invest that in peace and solving global warming for starters... you rich people who have al the power to make change, wouldn't have to cry about loosing a bit of money.
I believe the rich know that there HAS to be significant reforms. And fast. This guy wasn't invited by accident. Come on now. Just think about it for a minute.
Listen to the rich guy say " I know what people want" And he has those people in front of him. And they are telling him they want to talk about taxes. lol
He gets so uncomfortable man!
ACCOUNTING COMPANIES NEED TO BE REGULATED, just like BANKS. They explicitly provide services to help companies minimize their tax bill by transferring profits via complex company structures to the lowest possible tax domicile.
Wow. powerful stuff. went here for Mr Rutger but Ms Winnie is amazing!
*total awkward silence when he was speaking*
Ken goldman doesn't want to talk about taxes. Why would that be.. 😂
You can see how uncomfortable he gets
@@akshatkhurana8952Goldmans voice was shaking. He was internally writhing with rage at the word taxes 😂
TAX TAX TAX #2020
And nothing will change.
Rutger Bregman: rich people need to pay their share of taxes
Rich people: No, we don't want to. Come up with a different way to lift people out of poverty. We want to keep our money... even though some of it comes from government subsidies that should be used for programs that benefit the people instead of multinational companies that won't pay their share.
And how does a person worth that much money know what people really want?
I don't want a job as such, I want to be a lyricist or a writer of some sort. Not the easiest thing to become when you're working 40-60 hours a week to survive.
What's the name of the African speaker?
Winnie Byanyima
Winnie Byanyima
FM yea she’s was amazing as well as the European guy socialism is a great thing
Still nothing changed. Tax avoidance are called philanthropist 🤦♂️
Most ballsy speech at Davos since Erdogan called Shimon Peres a mass murderer on stage. Rutger Bregman, you're the man.
Ofc the former Yahoo CFO doesn't want to talk about taxes
Oh my. You don't realise just how hungry you are to hear truth talking to power until you hear it so clearly and honestly spoken
He is a hero thats not getting enough attention.
TRUE COURAGE is not really our best trait... but HE SYMBOLIZES IT
In my opinion the phrase "at a firefighters conference, and no one is allowed to speak about water . . . " is expressing it mildly.
I would rather say "no one likes to talk about how to extinguish a fire, at a gathering of arsonists".
This guy is fantastic!!!!!!
Just so you know, no one talked about taxes.
Yes pay your taxes and again the Dutch say things the way it is.
Taxes don’t solve inequality. They’re wholly unrelated.
That was a bunch of nonsense.
Just taxing the rich more is not a solution- it's a transfer of wealth from the rich to the poor (via the government). The government generally cannot spend the money as well as the private sector (if you didn't earn the money in the first place, you really have little care how it's spent). In 2019, the top 1% of taxpayers paid about 40% of total taxes in the US. And the top 50% of taxpayers paid almost 100% of total taxes. So about half the American population pay close to zero taxes. The question is how to make these people more productive- and a transfer of wealth doesn't provide the incentive. I think a conspicuous consumption tax on the rich is fairer.
Davos fixed this - he is no longer invited
A million freaking thumbs up!
Imagine that another rich CFO of Yahoo thinks 'dignity of work' is good enough for slaves.
They’re talking about tax avoidance because of how much of a problem it is, and how much it would solve if it was fixed. To focus on other issues would be a disservice to all but the rich.
That man is rude, out of place and too passional......I Love It!!!!
Brilliant and simple solutions - pay your taxes and stop your exploitation!
There is still hope for humanity, at least if we can break up the transnational monopolies and billionaires hold on power and information.
Where at a firefighter convention and nobody is talking about water
Boomer was sure we shouldn't be talking about taxes.
Perfect!
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eat the rich
what we need is a existence maximum. a upper limit of assets for all. all money over this limit needs to be taxed to 100%
I can never hear anything on this topic without seeing George Osborn's sicking little smirk whenever a situation called for him to pretend that tax wasn't just for the little people.
2 years later and we're in even far worse shape
Aaaaaaand he was never invited there again xD
Question: If the "Great Reset", would bring about a "global government".... does that mean we will finally have "global tax" for all the mega rich companies with the tax havens? 🤔
Everybody in the comment section is congratulating the Dutch historian for apparently saying a great truth about tax avoidance of wealthy people. I think many are just missing the real issue here. The real issue is how governments manage hence spend the money collected through taxes. It's totally nonsense to talk about taxes if then people don't talk about how the money collected from it is spent.
And 5 years later, people in the United States voted a couple of billionaires in to office. SMH
When biologist says flying a space shuttle is easy.
dutch royals are paying taxes????
The fact that he is part of a group of rich people making policies for the rest of society should tell you how bad this is! We dont need these people! Actually if these people would get their nose out of our business we can sole the worlds problems
amazing!!!!!! finally!!!! the truth
Let’s invite Bono again...
Ken Goldman & Co.: The hunt is on.
Tax the rich, then eat the rich.
@Richard Ralph Roehl Unless they've already been eaten...
Richard Ralph Roehl they are already eating us. Only reason vast majority of the wealthy have any wealth is because workers give up big part of the financial gain of their labor. If that principle is right or wrong can be debated. But it is a big problem today when 5 people in america own as much as the bottom 50%. And 1 in 5 children starve, and people don’t have access to healthcare and so on. Even in a country like sweden it differs 18 years in life expectancy between wealthy and poor people. These people aren’t innovators and jobb creators, they are parasites that living in super excess, and the majority is paying for it. Why should 1000 families have trouble giving their children the basics like education, healthcare, good quality food and some fun in life, and have a paid vacation to hang out with their children. Just so one family will be able to afford private planes, yachts, multiple homes and not need to ever work for multiple generations?
It is not even about paying their fair share. It is about paying back what never belonged to them in the first place.
Rutger Bregman didn't kill himself.... oh wait that is yet to happen.
Taxes is the price we pay for civilization
Is that claim from you? :-) Sounds like a qoute from a philosopher...
Why the heck do they subtitles? Their English is fine.
Too many people wanting a lifestyle built on non-sustainability.
What is the woman's name at the end of this clip?
You make a huge assumption that giving money to the government is a better route. Why should the government make decisions on what to do with people's money?
That might be the single greatest opening line I've ever heard. And I thought Scandinavians didn't have a sense of humour.
Dutch people arent scandinavians...
@@robinwestermann6348 true. But they aren't funny either so my point still stands.
Aye gowon Rutger..... raise the rates and lower the takes.
Whose the woman? Why not put her name in the title.
Bernie Sanders !
Facts.
I'm down with people critising the ultra rich. Thats fair. Then I see he's for open borders and I therefore could never support him.
I don't know if she herd America is 40 trillion in debt who's rich
lol @ the Yahoo founder calling the panel one sided just cause he doesn't like the content.
Video is misleading. I agree with Bregman, and his overall point, but the video is sliced and spliced and generated to get a certain point across. It's either poor editing or its vituperative journalism, and being that this is the Guardian, I would say the latter.
I watched the full video - it isn't misleading.The parts removed were where Ken Goldman acted like a manchild throwing a tantrum because the 1st speaker used a swear word and he disapproved. Some of the examples given by the final speaker were not shown like the 3 taxi drivers sleeping in 1 room in shifts because though they all had full time jobs, they still couldn't afford rent. There was condensation but no twisting of ideas.
As Rishi Sunak flys into COP the past few days. Just a healthy reminder his billionaire family claims non dom status. So nothing changes.
Really? Not allowed toilet breaks? Show some proof
Es asi, este mundo se esta volviendo injusto y la gente no se da cuenta. Y admira a líderes como Elon Musk o Bill Gates que lo que hacen es acumular riqueza a costa de los demás.
Un desastre.
I can't blame an individual or company for doing whatever they can do to minimise their legal tax burden. It's up to politicians and regulators to close the loopholes.
Politicians and regulators are bought and paid by the donnor class. You have no option.
@@pippoespera8902 yes you're right. That's why we are stuck.
@@ampthilluk Actually I don't want to sound pesimistic. This AOC tax idea is really good, I was thinking maybe to put a limit on the gap between the poor and the rich, but it's kind of difficult. AOC got a better idea.
Why the Guardian News has manipulated the video?
What was at first funny is now too painful to hear Rut
in what amounts to stand-up comedy act - against an
audience - as Rut's got the nerve to speak out against
tax avoidance while he's paid by 'Bloomsbury-ir' using
the very same tax evasion he cries he's so against.
Rut won't expand any utopian ideas of David Graeber
whom he's all too often merely copied and rehashed.
No continuation / further development / new idea. It's
but Rut: Find quotes; Collate 'em; Print it; Give talk$.
Alas, if Rutger wrote with an honorable intention,
or if deep down he was descent, not purely selfish, at
the very least his books would be free to download.
we really need more than ever to unite the world in a single country and one government: the only way to stop people from avoiding taxes is to eliminate the loopholes that allow them to do it. Everywhere on the planet. They're not able to take responsibility by them self if they did they wouldn't be so rich.
you want the one world government NWO?
what have you been smoking?
would work if the government work for the people.
Some say he won't be invited back, but I ask you this:
Bill Gates invited me to his house and when I am in, I start telling him why he should pay more taxes because others are starving. Would you blame Bill Gates for NEVER inviting me back?
If he invited you over for a chat about why the mechanisms which are supposed to stop people starving are not working they yes.
"Rich people don't pay their fair share"...now, who decides what the "fair share" is?...
if you are ignorant enough to believe that tax avoidance is the main issue of the day, you need to read some facts. the bottom 50% in u.s pay no federal tax. the top 10% pay more than 50% on income tax. if the tax rate on the top 20% were to be 100%, it wouldn't pay the deficit.
Taxation is theft. Doesnt matter if you tax someone with 20 000 income or 2 million income.
Exploiting your labour is also theft, just saying. :)
"Taxation is theft"
If you can guarantee you won't EVER use any infrastructure, police, fire department and what not, sure. But that's just not a thing, especially in the US.
I credit Rutger Bregman for his clarity on the issue of tax evasion; but he's dead wrong on his view of Geert Wilders. Geert Wilders is a champion of European secularism and freedom. He spoke out on Islam's troubling extremist tendencies and unchecked immigration from Morocco and the middle east. He called Islam out for its problems with integration long before anyone else had the courage to, even at risk to his own life. The guy has to live in fear of assasination for speaking out in defense of liberalism, something the cowardly, supposedly liberal left-wingers were too cowardly to do Don't believe me. What did we just see happened in Morrocco just before Christmas 2018? Yeah that's right … another gruesome double decapitation of two Scandinavian girls at the hands of Islamist/Extremist fanatics. So again Rutger, great job in bringing tax avoidance into the spotlight. But go ahead and just shut up and leave Geert Wilders (the true hero of Holland) alone.
Tax the rich sounds nice. But the rich can move their jurisdiction and avoid if the government ask too much taxes.
10% of the rich pay over 70% of all taxes, do you want more? You cannot.
The only way is to destroy the economy itself because you have anger for having less then others.
It is shameful for Westerners who are so well off compared with history and non Westerners to complain about the rich. It is all envy that arises now because the middle class in the West have to give up some UNEARNED wealth to the 500 million people who came out of poverty mainly in Asia (thanks to capitalism, not government policy).
Did Bill Gates or Steve Jobs steal anything from the poor? No they added wealth to the total economy.
Wealth inequality is not the real problem (it's is the result).
It's the scapegoat of the Left
Migration is not the real problem (it's the result).
It's the scapegoat of the Right.
Please address the real problem:
Resentment of the middle class all over the world is caused by the decline of wealth of the West per worked hour since 1988 and the rapid change of the cultural environment due to globalisation.
This is caused by Technology, Globalisation, Opening up of Asian economies to become productive.
We cannot remove these factors without giving up on our wealth so we have to deal with them in a way that we avoid havoc.
This is not about the middle class at all. 10% of the rich pay over 70%? Even if so, that should be a 100% of the rich paying 70%.
we can just tax the assets they leave behind then. who would want people who only care about money living in their country.
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Who else do you wanna exclude? The mentally ill, the handicap or the ones who follow a religion you don't like?
@@ForOdinAndAsgard no just people who don't like to pay the tax rate set by the government. bye bye.
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There are a lot more people who wanna evade taxes than just the rich alone. This excludes people who only care about money because most just do it to be able to live in a normal way. Why do you think the black market is b(l)ooming?
the african lady is missing the point, each job is optional. at least americans have that luxury ma'am.
Dan TheMan really? I think you are missing the point. Majority rules and minority rights, same ideology was used to rationalize inequality, if you don’t like it go elsewhere. You can not effectively bargain without equal footing, most Americans work for others, and government has to step in to protect their rights.
Each job is optional yet if they don't work they can't pay for food, housing, bills etc etc, basically they can't live, but it is optional....
Optional? That depends upon to a large extent about the various local, regional, and even national job markets. It depends even more upon if someone can afford to move from an area with few jobs to one with many.