You hit all the reasons I got a RR Woz: -Even though the gameplay doesn't suck me in as much, I thought of my wife, family/friends that visit, and 2 year old that will be playing in the future would really enjoy this pin. Universal appeal. -I justified the cost with how packed and nice the game is. JJP said they would spare no expense and they spent years making it. You won't see as nice a game again at that price point.
Thanks for the review guys it was great but I think the witch laughs would drive me crazy after 20 minutes but your in depth commentary is always refreshing. Thanks again 👍
Every time I look at this machine I'm like man that playfield is loaded with stuff going on, looks fun. Never played one myself though. The theme I don't know it's an all time classic movie but not really one of my favorites, I haven't watched it in so long.
Looking at this review and seeing the list of scores, I'd definitely be up for a follow-up video where you discuss your opinions on these machines and whether or not your score would change if you were to grade them now. Stern SW stands out for example. You guys seem to love that pin now, but graded it pretty hard at the time. The old score can stand as a reminder of how good or bad it was at release, but since these games can change so much after a year or more code updates, it would be interesting to see the results from SDTM
I really want a WOZ! But I'm also obsessed with Keefer games. I want a journey in the home environment. I guess my biggest gripe with the game is that there is only one ramp. Maybe another ramp to the castle off the upper right flipper would have been good?
So do you guys still have Star Wars rated as low as you show on the chart at the end of this video? Just asking because you were both speaking highly of it the other day.
Weird that a pin with such an accessible theme has gameplay that is so inaccessible. Unless you just want to bang the ball around, most players trying this for the first few times have no idea what to shoot at.
Awesome hope you guys do! Recently obtained an LE and its brilliant. Shame people jumped on the "It's a Turd bandwagon" without even trying to understand it! Their loss!
True enough. Thanks! I'm getting my first machine today actually. I'm a poor artist, so it will always be older machines, but I love old machines, so it works out perfect. I'm picking up a High Speed this afternoon and I'm thrilled to death haha. Your show is fantastic guys. I've watched every episode.
Great video and review guys. WOZ looks beautiful, and it's a great theme for a pin. We almost bought a used one a few years back. Sounds bad, but I just couldn't get passed the ruby red slipper flippers going in our mancave. Didn't seem like it would fit the theme of Rocky, Rambo, the Terminator, Chuck Norris & Army of Darkness? Beautiful pin though!
Mancave Movie Madness ha ha I can understand that! I get weird about stuff like that too. I think themes mean more to people then most give credit to! (Greg)
My wife always wants this to be our next pin, but I can't see the game getting much use. It is the absolutely best looking pinball machine of all time, but it's too focused on ticking all of the bells and whistles boxes and not being a game. I think it's worth mentioning that if you actually are good enough to get deep into this game the JJP flipper fade usually fights you as much as the gameplay does! I would love to own one, but they need to get a bunch cheaper for me to pull the trigger!
Good video as always. I almost never agree with your ratings, but I love the format of the show and you guys do a nice overview of many different categories. This game actually really just sucks. Cool that it's different, agree that it's loaded. Don't agree that it looks that good, rules are unnecessarily confusing, and putting the layout at a "C and a B" is a joke. This could really be an "F". Total package is a "C-". It's a novelty pin at best.
Do you actually play games Zach? It appears you spend most of your time swapping. Even games you give great reviews to, you flip the next day. Maybe at one point you can play a game and show that you actually know how to play pinball. My guess is that day will never come and we will be left with these corny videos where we get your "expert" opinions.
ruclips.net/video/Dhcj6BcoGbE/видео.html I hate to defend Zach but he’s a pretty solid player. He doesn’t keep any thing long no matter how good. We normally won’t review a pin if we don’t have a good amount of time on it. (Greg)
You hit all the reasons I got a RR Woz:
-Even though the gameplay doesn't suck me in as much, I thought of my wife, family/friends that visit, and 2 year old that will be playing in the future would really enjoy this pin. Universal appeal.
-I justified the cost with how packed and nice the game is. JJP said they would spare no expense and they spent years making it. You won't see as nice a game again at that price point.
Thanks for the review guys it was great but I think the witch laughs would drive me crazy after 20 minutes but your in depth commentary is always refreshing. Thanks again 👍
mark hayes you know I don’t have a ton of time on there but it’s never really stood out to me as being bothersome. (Greg$
Every time I look at this machine I'm like man that playfield is loaded with stuff going on, looks fun. Never played one myself though. The theme I don't know it's an all time classic movie but not really one of my favorites, I haven't watched it in so long.
I like everything about WOZ but the gameplay...
That’s a bummer. Gameplay is the whole purpose of a game !
Chris WhiteY yep that’s my take away. Unless you like toys and art as a collector
Your review is on point, well reviewed and well put together...thanks guys
orson baker thank you OB
Looking at this review and seeing the list of scores, I'd definitely be up for a follow-up video where you discuss your opinions on these machines and whether or not your score would change if you were to grade them now. Stern SW stands out for example. You guys seem to love that pin now, but graded it pretty hard at the time. The old score can stand as a reminder of how good or bad it was at release, but since these games can change so much after a year or more code updates, it would be interesting to see the results from SDTM
I'm also thinking one day i would like this machine in my collection, and again guys great show!!
Rod Chartrand thanks RC!
No 'Dark Side of the Moon' jokes or references? You could at least make this video 42:49 ;)
It's a great family game. My wife even plays it and that never happened before with other pins.
I really want a WOZ! But I'm also obsessed with Keefer games. I want a journey in the home environment. I guess my biggest gripe with the game is that there is only one ramp. Maybe another ramp to the castle off the upper right flipper would have been good?
turbografx7 ooh I kinda like that. But then would we have TSPP 2.0?
So do you guys still have Star Wars rated as low as you show on the chart at the end of this video? Just asking because you were both speaking highly of it the other day.
it still has setbacks that drop the ranking, but both of us are really enjoying more than some pins ranked above it
Great video guys, also got the star wars pin premium ... oh my what a pin!
kirby695 ahhhh man congrats!!!! Glad you like it! I don’t think mine will be leaving for a while
hello, greg and zack just subbed, was looking thru your vids do you have a stern kiss review/ did not see one . Awesome show!!
Weird that a pin with such an accessible theme has gameplay that is so inaccessible. Unless you just want to bang the ball around, most players trying this for the first few times have no idea what to shoot at.
Real Men play WofOz Pinball!
have you guys got a Star Wars premium or LE review?
Krs Dee not really we kinda lumped it into our original review. However, we both love the pin and Greg has been wanting to go back and review it again
Awesome hope you guys do! Recently obtained an LE and its brilliant. Shame people jumped on the "It's a Turd bandwagon" without even trying to understand it! Their loss!
I agree, the gameplay isn't very good, but it looks amazing.
San Kroepoek I still want to own one just because of how beautiful it is! And it’s still a decent pin! (Greg)
Don’t agree with this review. Shots/Layout gets a C? Drain monster ? Ehh!
Feck this is the best game made!
You sure are ready for your next pinball machine Zach. Give me a fucking break!
Cory Westfahl ?
"I've owned it twice" LOL. Is this a Zach thing or common among pinballers? I'm new to the hobby.
supersnappahead there’s all different types of collecting. Welcome to the hobby and thanks for watching the episode
True enough. Thanks! I'm getting my first machine today actually. I'm a poor artist, so it will always be older machines, but I love old machines, so it works out perfect. I'm picking up a High Speed this afternoon and I'm thrilled to death haha. Your show is fantastic guys. I've watched every episode.
supersnappahead that’s freaking exciting. Congrats!
Thanks. I've waited a long time, so it's really exciting stuff. And thank you for the show.
Demo man leaving Greg’s lineup! Say it isn’t so!
Great video and review guys. WOZ looks beautiful, and it's a great theme for a pin. We almost bought a used one a few years back. Sounds bad, but I just couldn't get passed the ruby red slipper flippers going in our mancave. Didn't seem like it would fit the theme of Rocky, Rambo, the Terminator, Chuck Norris & Army of Darkness? Beautiful pin though!
Mancave Movie Madness ha ha I can understand that! I get weird about stuff like that too. I think themes mean more to people then most give credit to! (Greg)
My wife always wants this to be our next pin, but I can't see the game getting much use. It is the absolutely best looking pinball machine of all time, but it's too focused on ticking all of the bells and whistles boxes and not being a game. I think it's worth mentioning that if you actually are good enough to get deep into this game the JJP flipper fade usually fights you as much as the gameplay does! I would love to own one, but they need to get a bunch cheaper for me to pull the trigger!
rask4p all very good points. Thanks rask4p!
Hide ya kids hide ya wife they subscribin everybody out here
Travis Lancaster hahahaha damn strait
Good video as always. I almost never agree with your ratings, but I love the format of the show and you guys do a nice overview of many different categories. This game actually really just sucks. Cool that it's different, agree that it's loaded. Don't agree that it looks that good, rules are unnecessarily confusing, and putting the layout at a "C and a B" is a joke. This could really be an "F". Total package is a "C-". It's a novelty pin at best.
Alan Robertson that’s fair. Always love hearing your opinion.
3 minutes in and I'm already bored.
Do you actually play games Zach? It appears you spend most of your time swapping. Even games you give great reviews to, you flip the next day. Maybe at one point you can play a game and show that you actually know how to play pinball. My guess is that day will never come and we will be left with these corny videos where we get your "expert" opinions.
Josh Tippett much appreciated
ruclips.net/video/Dhcj6BcoGbE/видео.html
I hate to defend Zach but he’s a pretty solid player.
He doesn’t keep any thing long no matter how good. We normally won’t review a pin if we don’t have a good amount of time on it. (Greg)