Tyler Herro’s Future Is Not Looking Good
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
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The Miami Heat have a big decision to make with Tyler Herro. The guard is up for an extension but do they really want to keep him around? If not, a trade could be coming and there is one team that makes a lot of sense for his future.
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"Tyler Herro chose to be a celebrity" fits so well.
Tyler Manziel
Him and Ben Simmons, two of the goofiest dudes in the nba
Is this 2k23 and I’m playing as Tyler ?
i cant believe he impregnated a girl who has banged half the nba
I don’t really understand this. The guy got drafted in the lottery to the Miami Heat and seemingly leaned in to the “South Beach, cool guy who knows other famous ppl and lives that sort of lifestyle” kind of image once he started to have some success. It’s smart to build a brand these days if you can, and he probably hired some ppl who help you do so once he started getting a lot of social media followers and started being recognized a lot. That’d be my guess.
I wish I could remember the interview now SO BADLY, but it was with an athlete. It popped in to my head while writing this, it was Kuzma. He did an interview with Draymond. Kuzma was drafted mad late in the 1st round, but obviously to LAL. He realized right away that even tho he was a later pick, he got drafted to a big market, and was a 4yr college guy not many ppl had heard of. He had that underdog appeal.
Being a late FRP on a team that went 26-56 the year prior, there weren’t much expectations. He didn’t start his first 8 or so games, and they started 3-5, but he had a few solid games and started the next 11g. He averaged like 18/7.5 on good efficiency and sort of leaned in to it. Had a 30/10 game, couple 20/10’s, etc.
He said something in the interview about selling merch really early on. I’m not gonna go back and watch bc it was long, but he made idk, maybe a couple to few hundred grand off that little merch pretty fast. His first year salary was about $1.4M. Take out taxes, (mad extra for being in CA) an agent, somewhere to live, all that stuff and it doesn’t go far. Once he saw he could make that kinda money his rookie year being basically a nobody, he realized how powerful branding is…and then investing etc.
Idk Kuzma’s story rly. I think he’s from Flint which isn’t that far from where I live and it’s not somewhere you wanna live. Idk Herro’s story at all. I’m sure it’s way different than Kuzma’s obviously. Kuzma played 4yrs at Utah, only had a cpl D1 offers I think. Herro was a one and done at Kentucky, drafted 13th to a team that was immediately good. He played real well his rookie year including in the playoffs, especially for a rookie. Up until the finals he was playing starter mins off the bench (33.2) and put up 16.5/5.5/4, and shot 37.8% 3P on 6.5att and 89.5% FT on 2.5att.
In the finals he started 5/6 games, 34.6MPG, and while his stats dipped (and of course his defense was trash) he still put up 14.7/4.2/3 and shot 36.7% 3P on 5att & 81.3% FT on 2.7att. Went to 6 games in the finals his rookie year and started 5, was def a huge contributor that whole season. Way more than anyone would expect for a rookie.
Idk when he was in that music video and all that, but he leaned in to the image, and after one of the longest seasons ever he seemingly partied it up, and got kinda “famous.” He had a strong brand. Super young dude. His year 2 regular season wasn’t as bad as ppl make it out to be. People expected a huge leap, but he mostly kinda stayed stagnant. Got a bit better in some areas, and it was the shortest off season blah blah. He laid an egg in the playoffs though for sure. Kind of a weird first two years for a rookie. The bubble, then the weird next season, all the off court stuff. But it seems like he’s learned from a lot of that stuff. Obviously he just had a terrible playoffs, but he continues to get better offensively and become more efficient.
Maybe that’s all he’ll ever be in the NBA is a really good high volume 3P shooter who can create a bit for himself and others, get to the rim a bit, the line, and put up points in bunches. He’s like what, 22yo? And just won 6MOTY. I don’t think anyone expected him to be a good defender when he was drafted. You’d hope by now he’d learn to be a bit better getting to the right spots, and navigating screens…but often times MIA uses a zone to hide him anyway.
An ideal outcome for him would to become a starting PG. Ideally being the smallest guy in the lineup, and continue to become a better creator for others. You’d like to see other people in the lineup who can pass well too so he can play some off ball, and maybe lead the second unit.
Regardless, having a strong brand is really good if you back it up on the court. In the playoffs the last cpl years he hasn’t, but in the regular season he can really fill it up and is a very good shooter at all 3 levels, mostly 3 ball and at the rim tho. Hopefully he can become more efficient and cut out some of those bad midrange jumpers, and at least slightly improve on defense. Barring injury though he’s going to be in the league for a very long time and make 100’s of millions of dollars. His brand definitely helps the earning potential.
Maybe he’s not an ideal fit for MIA. They have a guy in Lowry who’s really old at this point, injury prone, and is nowhere near the guy he was on defense anymore at all. Butler plays better with the ball in his hands, and essentially refuses to help space the floor. I love Jimmy. Awesome defender, can get to the rim, the line, his spot in the midrange, set other people up, etc. But if he was someone who could just take a few C&S 3s a game when he’s off ball, he’d go from perennial All-Star to perennial All-NBA. It really hurts to have both him and Bam not be able to space the floor. I’m not saying it has to be both, but it being neither is TOUGH.
Anyway that’s enough of a tangent. I don’t even rly like Herro lol. I’m not a MIA fan at all. I just think there’s nothing wrong with buying in to the off the court stuff. Kuzma did it and is making way more $ for himself. It took him a long time to realize what his role is on the court. It’s only been 4yrs of ball for Herro including NCAA. Kuzma played 4 at college. You still see him wearing that weird pink sweater and stuff. Hopefully Herro will find his place in the league…but saying he “chose fame” over something better life in the NBA is a joke. Do you really think he’d be some superstar two way player right now if he didn’t post on IG and do whatever it is that he does?
That’s what I don’t get.
Tyler Herro has everything to prove this season and he knows it. After Miami keeping him besides various rumour trades, if he gets to show off his full potential will be especial to see
hehe “especial”
@@spaghettisauce445 That's a big if tbh
He needs to leave that organization ASAP and bet on himself like James Harden did when he was in okc.. I don't think he'll ever get a starting role in Miami and will be pigeon-holed as a six man
Facts
doesnt matter if he has a lot to prove...he's still a terrible defender. BBQ chicken in the playoffs.
They screwed up by overpaying Duncan Robinson. Once teams figured him out he became unplayable. Now Herro will demand for a contract greater than his and he wouldn’t be wrong to compare
They dont overpay him. They paid his hardwork. Remember tyler johnson. Thats how they attract undrafted rookies. They work hard and they will get their pay.
@@chowchowdeoro2885 I understand that but in hindsight relative to market value it was an overpay. I ain’t mad he took the bag but the Heat crippled themselves financially by doing that. Good for him though he worked hard as an undrafted player for this.
@@chowchowdeoro2885 doesnt change the fact they severely overpaid them, miami will never win a ring until robinsons contract expires
@@mangobananana This is really silly. Miami may not win a ring in the next 4 seasons, but it’s not necessarily bc they overpaid Duncan Robinson by like $6M a year or something. He makes like $18M. If he made $12M, he’d be a totally fine guy to have off your bench that can shoot like 40% on extremely high volume from 3. Especially with the cap continuing to rise at a significant level.
If they don’t win a ring it’ll be because Bam didn’t progress enough, Lowry is too old, and they lost important role players like PJ Tucker.
A lot of championship winning teams have had overpaid players on their books. Tristan Thompson sure as hell wasn’t worth whatever he was making back then. There’s a difference between having someone overpaid that’s making like…12% of your payroll, and someone that’s making damn near 30% of it or whatever Russ is making.
Obviously it wasn’t a good contract. I’m not sure why they gave it out, especially when they’ve always been so good at finding guys like Max Strus, Caleb Martin, etc. i guess they underrated how big of an impact his bad defense would have in toughest rounds in the playoffs.
Also if they really need to get off of his contract in a couple years, they’ll be able to. It’s not like he has to be on the roster for 4yrs. His final year is like $19.888M or something like that with only $9.888M gtd. So they could waive and stretch him before his final year and instead of 9.888 on their books that year, it’d be 1/3 of that for the next 3.
Also since the last year is only half gtd or so, it makes it easier to trade than if it was fully gtd. If in two years they want to make a trade involving like Duncan and two 1sts for a solid player, that’ll definitely be an option.
GSW just won a ring. Wiseman is overpaid like crazy. He’s making like $10M or something and he doesn’t even play, but they still won a ring! Crazy!
It was less that he was unplayable and more that they found a guy who does everything he does and more. The problem is that teams viewed him as having something wrong with him after that so his trade value tanked. In an offensive minded league thst loves 3s he should be worth something of value.
Herro wasn’t holding back the Mitchell trade, we didn’t have enough draft picks
Possibly. The draft picks don’t solely have to come from your team. Trading Herro(+) to a 3rd team for a higher value pick or 2, is an easy scenario to get Trader Danny what he really wants.
Pat Riley knows how to make 3 & 4 team trades work for everyone.
@@cjwrench07 if Hero wasn't going to the Jazz what players were you providing? The Jazz wanted picks plus players. Lowry is too old and Robinson is not even worth his contract.
False, Danny ainge and pat riley have a 20+ year beef going on lol Danny ainge was never going to do business with the heat lol why the fuck would he give Pat Riley a star player for a discount? lol the heat was never a possibility.
@@almac9203 When Robinson is shooting well he is so important to a championship team. A few players like him on perimeter are essential to winning chips.
@@AtlanticCanadianAstronomy Robinsons only value is his shooting because he offers nothing else to a team. His shooting last season wasn't good thus his value to a team is very limited. Robinson is not worth his contract because his shooting doesn't justify the money he is owed. He is the Heat's version of David Bertans. Shooters need to hit their shots to justify their salary and Robinson didn't do that.
A handful of high profile players has a lot to prove next season:
-Kyrie
-Westbrook
-Herro
-Simmons
-Zion
I'm a nets fan and Idk why people still have expectations of Kyrie to do anything.
He never made the playoffs before LeBron returned to Cleveland, and since he joined Boston everything till present has just been disappointing.
Let's face it. My team isn't a contender. We're pre-tenders. I still can't believe we have a rookie no experience coach as our head coach 🤦🤦
@@ColdHoops Because next season, Kyrie’s legacy and basketball career is on the line. His reputation is dead, even Nets fans don’t believe in him, as expected of Nets fans. Teams won’t pay him the max.
Kyrie will be on his best behavior and heavily incentivized to play the best basketball of his life next season. It is the only way Kyrie will be able to mend his reputation and get paid.
Zion just has to play enough games & he'll dominate... everyone else has something to prove on the floor
Keldon Johnson
@@demetriuscolburn252 and that's huge. Zion has to prove that he could actually be on the floor🤣
I like the idea that Herro plays this season without an extension to prove he's worth the money. It's a win win for everyone if he performs in the playoffs.
Performing is one thing.
How far Miami advance is another thing.
@@ColdHoops I say to third round
That's what I thought the Knicks should've done with RJ too. Should've had him prove he was worth a big contract then resign next off season when the contracts up.
@@Dnero518 cant blame them they got no stars to pay their cash so they just give it to rj
@@Dnero518 absolitelynot, they got RJ locked up for wayyyy under the max, he gave them a hell of a deal in terms of actual market value, what he could have held out for, and with where the nba salary cap is too g to explode during his contract. The second RJ would willingly and without complaint take significantly less than the max and not even have to fight him over it! The knicks absolutely had to lock that down. I’m not a big rj fan and def not a knicks fan, but that deal was a no brainer. Now if he was being colon sexton last summer and publicly fighting for the rookie max and offering very little wiggle room, then nope see ya next summer
How many players older than him choked in the playoffs?? The criticism by Heat fans is exactly why they are the worst flaky fan base. Hope he goes somewhere he’ll be appreciated.
That's exactly what they're asking for This is also the same bum ass fan base that hyped up justice Winslow and Josh Richardson
As a Heat fan I tell you, I don't understand why Herro is so criticized.. He is a 20 plus shooting guard in a team who play for the title.... What haters fans want I don't know...
He just signed for 4yrs 130 that’s an amazing future 😭😭
Overpayed as Poole
Poole has a ring though
This is true! I live in Miami and I loved the quiet workhorse kid who came into the NBA 3 years ago. Now he’s more interested in the Miami aura than the Miami basketball team…
Tyler has been miami’s 2nd best offensive player these past two years…actually was the best and coming off the bench for a big portion for this season
No wonder why they can't make it to the finals
He's gonna be there best scorer this year as well. Butler had a good playoffs but if Herro isn't playing they can't score enough. He's a bucket.
@@Lo-64937 and if Herro is in the court, the best scorer is always in the other team
@@WalterModel45 nobody plays defense in the NBA or cares that's why they score 120 a game and you're talking about being a defender that's hilarious.
He’s only 22, y’all need to relax 😂
Time flies quick.
Only 3 years ago, Tatum was 19 now he's 25 🤷♂️
Miami is a win now team not “wait till he’s older”
oh so he was a bubble fraud then as tautm kindly put it
@@ColdHoops wtf
@@sorinn7894 Miami ain’t winning shit regardless so why rush the rebuild?
This last playoffs he got injured. It's really not fair to judge last year.
He was ass before he got hurt.
@@Kosher93 He was on the injury report for legit the whole playoffs. Left ankle, hip then groin
@@JulberPajares4 Herro was not on the injury report going into the ECF. Even in the second round he was only listed questionable in game 1 because of a late illness and had 2 solid games v the Sixers then Doc basically said they were gonna focus more on him and he did nothing the rest of the series. In the first round he’s not listed on any injury report. Bam Morris Caleb Jimmy Lowry Gabe and PJ are all listed in multiple games in round one.
Love your vids Casey, but stop saying Miami didn't want to trade Herro for Spida, a Spida trade to Miami was never in the cards the moment Danny Ainge took over in Utah. Ainge and Pat Riley absolutely despise each other, and there was no way they'd ever do a deal with one another in good faith.
My point was that Heat fans were upset…so Tyler tweeted “keep the same energy”
@@AMHoops they didn’t have the picks for mitchell or james harden, neither had anything to do with herro not being included. also, you said herro was acting like a rockstar after the bubble, how? by dating a girl he was dating… before the bubble? where’s the integrity? you mentioned herro’s horrible 2021 against milwaukee… would you say jimmy butler and the entire heat team thought they were rockstars too? or did they get outplayed? cut the narrative and pay attention for yourself.
@@AMHoops "Keep the same Energy", Is about as tame a reply to people wanting you traded as you can get. It's actually a compliment to people who wanted him sold out of there.
Whats his name in New York gives fingers to the fans, this guy is saying bring the same energy cause we gonna give you something you do want.(rather that's true or not is a different story)
@@kaleb324 Lemme start by saying I’m not a MIA fan. I’m a DET fan so I have no bias in this particular situation. I unsubbed from this guy a while ago bc he simply makes poor content. Clickbait-y titles, basically yells every video at the mic, and presents whatever narrative he chooses for whatever reason, and ignores all context to the contrary in presenting that narrative.
It’s a really corny way to make videos. It is what it is. There are SO many good NBA content creators on YT. I wish he’d stop showing up on my feed tho. Eventually his fanbase will get sick of him, or he’ll end up like the YT less extreme version of Skip Bayless or something.
There are too many to name, but shout out to guys like KOT4Q, Thinking Basketball, Sam Vecenie, Nate Duncan, Danny Leroux, AFunkyDiabetic, Dom2K, FlemLo Raps, Secret Base, GETLIKECOOP, Rusty Buckets, Clique, JxmyHighroller, BBALLBREAKDOWN and SOOO many more I wish I could remember them off the top of my head.
@@BOnYTB cade’s gonna ball out this year, i like the rookie you guys got too.
video aged well...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Goated channel keep uploading!
Tyler has great playoff potential and if the heat resign him then I think he will reach that potential
didn’t show much playoff potential last year?
What has he done in the playoffs to give you the impression he has playoff potential? Lol
Signing him won't magically make him reach that potential. If you mean he might reach it during his new contract, then thats quite a risk to bet on a player that wants to be a celebrity
Nah he only performed with no fans and hasnt with fans. therefore he isnt
His “playoff potential” is to be: Joe Harris (Lite) A horrible defensive liability, who shoots worse the deeper the run.
He’s 22 averaging 20 5 and 4. They found a diamond in the ruff and they would be dumb to trade him.
that's the regular season mane, He needs to step it up big time in post season
He was trash in playoffs
@@topalovicbih1582 idk what game you be watchin lol
@@Asterisks12 ?
reply wasn't for you
@@topalovicbih1582 oh sorry mane, im drunk lol
Herro was banged up this off-season and the trend is going up. The heat need to trade for Myles Turner using picks to help in interior defense.
Love the vids keep it up
Contract season..Perfect time for him to show up.
Haters, the man has improved his game every year. What more does he need to do ? Remember 22 yrs old
How did he improve? He went from 37% to 31%, to 22% from 3 in the playoffs, *and* somehow his defense has also gotten worse year on year too (opposite of most young players).
Herro basically has the same defensive stats as old WestBrook. That’s good enough for a small market like OKC/Minn/NOLA, but not a team trying to be a real contender.
I disagree look up his stats every year more point, more minutes played, more assist, more rebound, can he improve his defense I think he can. Look at where Tatum was at at 22 vs Herro. Weather he stay or goes he is going to get paid. Pat Riley and Spo will make the best decision for the team. Look up his stats, you will see. Better than RJ since RJ has been in the NBA he’ll yeah. Would the Heat have been # 1 seed last year without him? No. Jimmy was hurt Lowry was hurt Bam was hurt. Herro got them to the playoffs. Could have done better but they were through more looks in transitions on him. He will have a big year and if the Heat does not sign him. I would go someone that leadership could value a good player. Time will tell.
@@cjwrench07 you’d throw up if you looked up playoff numbers vs reg season on a year to year basis of players who arent legit superstars. have some perspective.
@@kaleb324 basic year on year stats are meaningless except for superstars. For everyone else the advanced metrics are what to look at.
It’s like looking at Klay’s playoff performance during the Durant years. Basic numbers look like KD was worth more to the team. *But* the advanced stats show him as more efficient than KD on offence, and way more valuable 1v1 & help defence.
Then you look at this past playoffs advanced statistics where Wiggins, Porter, and *especially* Payton Jr were all more efficient & productive per/minute & per 100 possessions than Klay.
Then you can also look at Nerlens Noel, he’s been in the same defensive categories as “great prospect” Jarret Allen for the past 2yrs. Yet, Nerlens Noel is a barely 9mil/yr Center, who doesn’t pout when plays are not run for him on offence; and more specifically opposing players shoot *10%* lower when he’s defending them 1v1 or is the help defender.. That’s like going from LeBron’s +50% at the rim, to Westbrook & Herro’s ~40% at the rim.
Love your videos! :)
Dude definitely has All-Star potential, Riley just needs to start him. If not, then he needs to find a team that will start him.
He is too inconsistent, folds in the playoffs shooting bricks. Trade him while he still has some value.
@@bbginc694 The guy was injured in the playoffs. He averaged 21/5/4 on 45/40/87 when he was healthy in the regular season...
@@bbal9678 regular season
@@dleoner1 so why is Tyler held to this playoff standard but not other young players like rj barrett?
@@dleoner1 We gonna act like he didn't dominate the 2020 playoffs?
We know Tyler is your little brother and your worried but he’ll be ok
Its crazy how they forget how good he is and I despise him
Tbh don’t be surprised if duncan has a bounce back year. He was elite for two years and had one down year
Duncan’s a bum at best
@@whaleking6445 👀
@@whaleking6445 define bum
This take wasn't even close to being correct.
Please do a most underrated video 😭😭
I don’t know what Kyle Lowry starting at PG has to do with interfering with Tyler wanting to start. Tyler plays the 2, he would be starting alongside Lowry...I think Herro’s major competition for that starting 2 spot is Oladipo not Max. It’s stupid to call the Heat stupid for “overvaluing” Tyler...he alone was not getting that Mitchell or Harden trade done. It’s obvious Morey and Ainge wanted way more for those players than the Heat had to offer. Of course the Heat would’ve traded Tyler for them, don’t be dumb. They just didn’t want to gut their entire roster for them and/or didn’t have the trade capital/picks to pull of the deals.
As a Miami Heat fan, I would never be a Herro hater, but I did lost a bit of hope in him after 3 years , I will keep the same energy and want to trade him. Duncan's contract is scary, nobody wants him, I hope we don't get stuck with another bad contract.We didn't close on Donavan because we didn't have enough picks, and they didn't want Herro, and we don't want Harden, he sucks, he got exposed by Max Strus 😂please, we had already a version of him on Kyle why we would want another.
Herro has too much drama with his baby mama, and too invested in IG post instead for the past 3 years work on his atrocious defense. Miami thought the future was here, Bam and Herro, and this past post season they realized that Jimmy is still top dog, and whoever fits best with him ( Bam, Strus, Martin, Kyle/ Gabe) are the most successful line up. Herro might start the season and as soon as they loose a couple games they will start Oladipo or Max again.
Like the upload bro it’s interesting situation with hero and the Miami heat. But like what team would you think would most likely sign him.
That's why NBA OGs have been telling all these young dudes to just focus on 🏀
Miami wasted all its money trading for Lowry and giving Duncan Robinson a bad deal. The problem with Herro is his consistency and usually, players don't reach their most productive season until like year 7, which is too late for Jimmy Butler if they want to win now. I think Miami should just offer him a decent contract for him to stay because there aren't that many players available in the market.
They signed Lowry as a fa
@@dkarmusic5424 still wasted their money.
5:58 why did you show a clip of oladipo when mentioning bam? Couldn’t find a clip of bam?
great video!
We’re not winning now not with Giannis in his Prime Luka rising, GSW three headed hydra still intact. Herro is our best asset because he is in the same timeline with Bam he is hardworking,confident, and consistent losing him would cost another rebuild
The Miami Heat ARE in win-now mode. You guys were a Jimmy Butler missed 3-pointer away from basically making it to another NBA Finals. Make no mistake about it, Pat Riley wants to win now.
@@vexotimmer2675 if they went to the finals they would have lost …HORRIBLY might i Add
I got to see (in person) Tyler score 30+ on the suns in Arizona last season and let me tell you, he put on a show. I believe in Tyler
I’m sure there is another team willing to pay the full extension and have him start. He is definitely good or he would not be at the top in trades for Durant and Mitchell. Play now or someone else will. To be the second highest scorer coming off the bench speaks for itself. Trade some of the kids that make 28m or 18m a season averaging 14 points or less a game.
I'm surprised we're not talking about Duncan Robinson. He wasn't really hurt at all but because of his defense he couldn't get into the rotation. I wonder if Robinson can get back to being an impact player for the heat
Yo A.M. Hoops, I appreciate the way you analyze the game, the teams, and the players. You just earned yourself a new subscriber 👍 From Guam, USA 🇺🇸
Nice!! Thanks Nam!
I have a strong feeling hero not leaving Miami in the next 2 to 3 years and I still think he is really talented just needs a future rebuilding team like Sacramento kings or magic
Why does the thumbnail look like a GTA V loading screen? 😂
Well season is over now. He averaged over 20 a game again. 22 years old. He is a millionaire and not done getting paid yet. Wish my future was looking just as bad!!!
W vid as usual casey
Excellent excerpt from ira winderman, he knows the heat like No one else
I don't think Duncan Robinson was a fluke, he demoralized the hawks in the playoffs, he got no play time in the celtics series because they wanted defensive guys out there, dunc still has one of the highest shooting % in the league and fastest to land that many 3's even sooner than steph
One of the highest shooting % in the league? He shot 37% last year. 36 is league average.
He can only do one thing, was barely above average at it, and is bad at everything else. He would’ve played himself completely out of the rotation if the Heat didn’t want to avoid tanking his trade value so they could dump his contract in the off-season. He never turned it around and finally gave the job to Struss much later than deserved.
And he didn’t kill Atlanta. He had a single ridiculous game 1 where he went 9/10. Obviously very impressive. But he was 2/10 the rest of the series.
Duncan absolutely has elite shooting talent but he’s always been short on confidence, so I guess it’s not impossible he turns it around. His first season he was incredible at almost 45% on high volume. But he has declined by a full 4% each of the past two years.
Last year’s version of Duncan should be nowhere near a NBA rotation.
@@abarkins I agree he has seen some challenges as of late, and maybe the big contract he got messed with his mental a bit, but knowing what he can do If he gets in the lab with Jimmy learning to get his defense to be elite, he can be lite version of klay Thompson, the potential is there but I think just needs a slight confidence boost, any team would pick him up because of how valuable 3's are. But I agree his game is 1 dimensional and limits what he can do at the moment keep in mind the kid is really really young into his nba career.
@@losttyrant7482 His percentage dropped to 40.8% his 2nd year before he ever got that contract. There’s tons of role players that can shoot that while actually doing other things. It was his 44.6% first year that was special, and his 3 point proficiency that year more than made up for his limitations.
The Heat gave him the contract hoping he was closer to year 1 Duncan, but he actually ended up being much worse than year 2.
And he can’t just lab up being a good defender bc Jimmy is his teammate when he has none of the physical tools. He doesn’t have good lateral mobility, strength, or athleticism in general.
He’s 28 now. He’s only young into his NBA career bc of how old he was as a rookie. But he’s very far from “really really young.” If he was going to make any significant improvement on D where comparing him to a (non injury riddled) Klay wasn’t ridiculous, it would’ve already happened. Klay def wasn’t the most athletic guy in the world but he had a foundation that Duncan could only dream of.
We actually have seen Duncan improve on defense every year. He obviously works on it, but the improvements have been incremental and there won’t be any significant jump at this point. What you’ve seen is essentially what you’ll get.
I can assure Duncan will always be a negative defender. The path to him resurrecting his career is getting his 3 point shot back into the 42-45% range. That’s his bread and butter and the only reason he ever had a career.
Shooting a percentage like he did his first season created gravity towards him that stressed defenses and made them always have to pay attention to him at all times.
But if he’s just another 40% 3 point shooter, he’s a less well rounded poor man’s Max Struss.
@@abarkins agreed, but again he can have some explosive bursts like he did against Charlotte last year in double OT and like he did against the Hawks in the playoffs, I think he's worth keeping for now and let him get his confidence back, he'll be torching defenses again soon
@@abarkins BRO!!!!!
"Only 3s matter"; sod EVERYTHING ELSE basketball involves!!
I swear every time a player becomes the star of a new season of 2K, they suddenly get shit in reality.
I think there is a correlation between him broadcasting an image.. and his inability to perform under high pressure.. both show an overly large concern for what people think and not enough attention to perfecting your trade
Bro herro played from my state Kentucky so I loved him from the start and the heats is my favorite team and them trading would probably make my actually cry
We are so close to start of the season
Great Video
Tyler Herro will be fine... He may not be a heat soon, but he will be fine
Imma sub
This is why I never take videos Ike this serious
The white Ben Simmons with a shot...
I think he needs to be healthy in the play offs, Jimmy had basically no help given that kyle got hurt and Tyler was hurt
Heat fan here, I was really hoping 2 years ago that we would flip Herro for Bradley Beal (right after the bubble hype), but now we can't really do that because of his contract. then I really wanted to get Mitchell for him, but obviously we lost that too. so now I really have no idea what the team will do with him, they're obviously not going to pay him what he wants, but who is even on the trade market outside of maybe Turner that fits what the Heat do. Maybe there will be a surprise player available in January or something, but right now, it looks like we'll be riding out the year with him.
"They're obviously not going to pay him what he wants"
@@boxbarry8061 It's not a max, you don't think he wanted the max?
Well, this didn't age well
The hate that Herro is getting after being in the league for just 3yrs. He’s not the reason they lost, he had bad series but he was injured. Where was Lowry and Duncan?? I’ll take Herro over those 2 guys any day. His upside Is too high to pass up.
He’s not a superstar but he can be one of the best role player in the league. Miami fans who wanna get rid of him instead of Duncan and Lowry are crazy!
Y do I feel like the same thing that happened to Wiggins is going to happen to Herro…he’ll end up in GS and flourish.
GSW already have Jordan Poole who is the same player.
No
@@almac9203 and warriors have more young guys
Nah, he’s a role player at best. Man’s overrated asf
@@whaleking6445 how?
Pat knows what he’s doing 🔥🤷♂️
Nice vid
There are just certain players newbies shouldn't be compared to ... Kobe is DEFINITELY one of those players. Herro has some offensive power, but I don't see him as a number 1 or 2 option on the team truly competing for the chip. He's a number 3, at best. In comparison to the current champ's 2nd (Wiggins), 3rd (Klay) and 4th (Poole) best offensive players, I'd take ANY of the GSW players before Herro. Herro is overvaluing his stock.
I think the tyler situation is very complicated yes tyler didn't preform as well as expected but you can't just ignore the improvement from him in the regular season. I don't blame anyone who said that they should of traded tyler for spida but still it's not that simple there's still a good chance that Utah wouldn't have accepted the trade since new York and the cavs had picks which was utah was looking for and the heat didn't have any to give. Even if the heat got spida you keep the same problem if you have tyler which is very bad defense we saw spida get targeted by the mavs in the playoffs expect with spida you get wayyy better offense. The problem with the heat in the playoffs was injures and failing to meet expectations. Miami's x factor was that anyone could pop off Whether that be jimmy, tyler, bam or people on the bench they all popped off in the regular season but when they met Boston in the playoffs no one really did besides jimmy and bam sometimes. Jimmy Kyle and tyler were all hurt, and I'm not making excuses for kyle and Tyler's bad play but at least with tyler there were games where did decent but in general he didn't live to expectations that playoffs. It's still not over for tyler at all he is a hard worker, to me there are three options for tyler either get good defense, get consistently good at offense against any type of defense both good and bad. Or he could improve both. This year is the year that tyler proves if he's a superstar or just a good option off the bench
Lets go Heat 🔥
He still young and mostly importantly he gets along with others, they have good chemistry on and off court, if Harden came to Miami, the lockerroom is fucked
It seemed like everyone played great in the bubble without fans. Tyler was just one of the many. 😂
Remember tj warren scored like 100 points
Herro along with bam needed to step up especially on the offense side of the basketball as well.😁
Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro just signed a four-year, $130 million contract extension
Tyler Herro look a like making a video about Tyler Herro is some hero shit 😂😂😂
Bro he just signed a four year deal for $130 million I don’t think anything is in jeopardy
this guy is going to be another Chandler Parsons, 15 minutes of fame.
Tyler Herro, Jordan Poo... they like to shine & the swag when they basically haven't even become winning players
Man you make a lot of theories about Herro and Miami and I can't remember a time when you've been right lol
Miami should just let him sit and wait for him to get offers from other teams. They have the option to match if they want. He's definitely not a max player.
That's disrespectful but you do you
It’s disrespectful to wait to offer? Or to not offer the max?
@@skddgsshootawahmyn8mewhtha865 dude i didn't even mention the terrible D. Herro gets killed by 16 year old chinese kids lile their steph curry or somethinge 😆
@@williamwong3379 he's like 22 years old but he's already an All-Star level player. I can't sit here and throw laugh emojis and laugh with you when Michael Porter Jr is on a Max and John Collins is getting 30 million dollars a year. Tyler has to bet on himself like James Harden did and leave before he gets pigeonholed as only a six man. You have a servitude to whoever gets paid and you justify it from there, like most NBA fans do… it's the reason everyone is clowning cam reddish now. But if Tyler goes to another team and is given the keys he will be an All-Star at the least and a potential top 10 player
He is playing pretty good this year! dont know what all the fuzz is about. Ima Celtic fan so still remember the 2020 bubble when he smoked us so definitely don't get the hate, he is a young player let him developer into a consistent player.
Too early to tell . Tyler herro a special talent . Period
Mitchell would be a bad fit and I don't think Hardens work ethic and Jimmy Butler would work.they need a big and Herro and who to get a good fit 4 is the question.
Yeah Mitchell is to ball dominant and butler can't play off ball.
@@nathanbrown3069 jimmy is one of the best offball players in the league… wtf lmao
At the end my man says how the East is getting so much more competitive and mentions Mitchell to the Cavs, Murray to the Hawks and Durant back to the Nets but didn’t mention the one guy who’s had the biggest impact. Jalen Brunson has had the biggest impact on the eastern conference landscape having led the Knicks to the second round tho losing to Miami in 5 or 6 games.
All this pressure that the media puts on these players doesn't exist for the actual players. They already made it to the league and are making bank. It's all an illusion for the media to talk about
Tyler got his award in the bubble which is an empty shell because it's in the bubble. Miami shouldn't keep Tyler, but let him improve and put him in a good trade situation for this season.
James Harden also had a hamstring injury which slowed him down and his team also lost in the playoffs because wasn't there. The Sixers have paid a lot to acquire J Harden. Now is also his season to shine and bring his team to the next tier
Harden is a proven playoff choker.
Herro played the majority of his minutes alongside the starters. No way they let him walk for nothing, herro will prove himself this year and he’ll be just fine. He was our second scoring option all year and it wasn’t even all that close.
Imma be honest, for as much as I hear about how great of a GM Pat Riley is, and how great the culture is, I think it’s hella overrated. Fucking everybody is constantly washing Pat Riley’s balls, but he’s signed a horrible Duncan Robinson contract, he way overvalued Tyler Hero, and the Heat aren’t as big a destination as people think. Also, the team is comprised of Jimmy carrying everyone, Bam giving good defense and some offense, maybe Hero or Lowry or Oladipo get hot, and just a bunch of guys. Besides Jimmy, the Heat haven’t attract any big free agents since Lebron was there. I hear that every great player is going there, I’ve see photoshops Giannis, Luka, KD, Harden, Dame, etc. in Heat jerseys, yet none of them came. Their big free agent signing is an over the hill Kyle Lowry. Riley drafts very well, I’ll give him that and Spo can develop young talent. However, it’s clear that Pat values his home grown talent too much.
I hear people talking about the Heat culture like it’s the Warriors culture and they are nothing alike. The Warriors have built young stars and attracted big free agents and won titles. Winning with Lebron doesn’t mean anything to me about how good your team culture is. Lebron won with Dan Gilbert and Jeanie Buss as owners in 2 different clown show organizations. For me to believe your culture is that great, I gotta see a non Lebron title. And yes I know they won in 06, but I want something more recent.
Herro just became the villain 😂 like a a petty theft kind ROFL
i mean herro or not everyone gets hated on. not surprised to see videos like these
Bruh was injured in the playoffs and he’s only 22 lol
Tyler Herro is the Goat just watch💪
Remember how thw old media was reporting opinions based on assumptions? Same energy in this video...
The bubble is a weird time 😂😂😂
I think if Herro is good enough to get the starting 2 spot, I think I'd give him a 4 year, $104M contract. Not quite the 4 year max, but I think that's what his true market value would be.
It's probably even generous for his most recent production but hey, the market is crazy. Rj getting a 100m deal was eye popping!
@@yanncourtel8538 curious, what did u think Rj would get?
The Raptors are not an option. Guaranteed. They don’t acquire players who aren’t plus defenders. So that leaves Herro out.
This aged so well now he is averging 20+ ppg and he has a 4 year contract extension from what I know.
They don't call it the 6th man award for no reason 😭😂😭
I would like to see a comparison between Hero and Jordan Clarkson
The man can shoot and score thats for sure
i cant believe Tyler Herro was able to host and narrate a video ABOUT Tyler Herro. yes, A.M. Hoops looks like Tyler Herro mixed with MGK. Alight thats I have tonight guys, see you at the laugh factory in LA March 14th for my Birthday
Wow no one wished me a happy birthday. Not even 6th man Herro. Bro you don’t start. You have plenty of time to wish me a happy birthday. YOU DIDNT EVEN PLAY TONIGHT! Y’all dead to me. M’out
Tyler is doomed just because he is enjoying his youth in off season? Come on....
Miami didn't get Mitchell, but Thank God they didn't trade him for Harden
He's ben Simmons little brother 🤣