Engine Problem Forces Emergency Landing
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This flight started out normally, until my Exhaust Gas and Cylinder Head temperatures suddenly started spiking for no apparent reason. I finally got that new helmet and headset system from LYNX, so now you guys can hear all the drama as it unfolds. I really like how it records my talking all the time. What I don't like is how when I key up on the mic to transmit, the volume goes way down for some reason. Probably has to do with the mic circuitry. There is no active noise-cancelling in this particular model of headset. The LYNX system costed about $2000 total with all the options. I can make and receive cell phone calls too!
I love your sharky plane
Me too!
They make vauum cleaners too.
where do i buy one?
It's so cool
I had an engine out yesterday so I had to land the glider on the grass next to the runway. 😁😁😁
Wow. Awesome video I found this by mistake and I'm hooked. I'm 62yrs old ok old git but I'm getting into this I love it. I will definitely be taking lessons you my friend have just made me see the light wow yes I'm hooked on flying. Thank you Sir thank you.
Make sure your head gasket does not have a leak that would cause it to seize up or run hot . 2 stroke or 4 ?A 2 stroke I would check the head gasket foe a leak and check the torque on the cylinder heads for correct torque
Just a couple of observations about your fuel line setup.
The pulse pump should be mounted horizontally, presumably to prevent cavitation.
Maybe you're running a fuel pressure gauge which will indicate the the output pressure of the pulse pump constantly. With the electric pump in series you'll see that pressure too when switched on -- eg, the pulse pump indicates 4psi, and when you switch on the electric pump (that model you have produces 8psi), you'll see the bump and 12psi. I've mine regulated to 4psi and indicate 8psi when I switch the electric on.
Love you vids and narrations. Keep up the great work and flying.
that landing was so smoooth :D
Excellent touchdown, smoothest I've ever seen. Been a Commercial Rated Pilot for over 40 years, and have flown many different airplanes. Nice job.
It's easy for people to monday morning quarterback but I think you did a great job! You started looking for alternate landing spots while also trying for the airport. You lowered RPM. You declared an emergency (sort of) and picked the downwind landing knowing that you'd still have plenty of runway (I assume you knew what the winds were). Even though you still had the motor, once you knew you could make the runway you brought it to idle. Very nice. Almost textbook.
Glad your back safe!
great piloting!!great landing!when in doubt, land!dont wait for temps to start maxing out!by then too late...
Did the right thing, does not looking right, put it on the ground and then find out why.......good job !!!!!
Yeah, there's no way I'd fly that thing without a parachute...hopefully it has one.
Dustin Travis I wouldn't let you fly it in the first place. You would surely crash it. Stick to skateboards. Much safer for you.
glassdogangle shots fired
Dustin Travis: I believe that there's a BPS (ballistic parachute system) behind the pilot - That's the large, black item mounted to the back of the seat is.
No BPS. That black thing is the gas tank. I replaced it with an aluminum one about a year ago as you can see in my later videos. I absolutely love the new aluminum tank.
Great landing bro! I hope you figure out the problem and get her fixed quickly. It must be totally AWESOME being up there for real, but also more dangerous. That's one thing I love about FPV, if you crash, you don't die. You're one of the all around best FPV hobbyists I have ever encountered, your plane totally decked and customized beyond belief. I'm just getting started in the 'big time', got my Apprentice s15e modded with Eagle Tree Vector and EZ-UHF with the JR Module in a 9XR Pro for the sticks. Having a blast so far with virtually unlimited range (for me) and looking forward to performing some similar feats as you with the Grumpy Cat and maybe eventually ultralight flight which I also have always dreamed of. You have always been an inspiration to me bro, especially the night flights!
Despite what was going on, you still nailed the landing
I know the is out of date, but it might help someone. Pulse pumps should be mounted in a horizontal position. There is a weep hole on the side of the pump. The pulse line can accumulate condensation and make the pump less effective if mounted so that it will not drain.
Mistitled. This is not an emergency landing, this is a forced landing. VERY different.
Aurelius R wasn't it still an emergency tho?
I wouldn't get drawn into the semantics argument here. Just because oxygen masks didn't drop does not mean it wasn't an emergency.
You are wrong. A forced landing is an emergency landing. A precautionary landing is also in the emergency landing category along with ditching. Before you try to correct actual pilots with your capital letters you should do more research on the internet, which I assume your vast knowledge comes from.
Watching this video really makes you understand how important it is to really know your stuff up there. Especially everything having to do with the engine. Nice landing!
I've said this before but I LOVE your plane. I've never recently bought fsx and some hardware, to give me a bit of practice for WHEN I get my ultralight. Not "if", but "when"...
+WoodWagon 65 That's awesome! Get one! You won't mess with RC or flight sims after you get a real plane, it blows the other hobbies out of the water!
I would be doing FPV before getting fsx or a real plane but it's illegal in England and it sucks. :(
The landing was MONEY bro!
Looks like you saved an expensive motor job as well as your neck, KUDOS, good job.
What an excellent landing though...
Hey thanks!
Yea it was soo smooth... mmmm.. reminds me of something else.....
It was soft, smooth, but most of all a creamy landing.
LOL. Can't argue that.
Very nice landing
Calm and collected, nice landing - best to be safe rather than sorry. On the plus side, soon your plane will be running solely on brand new parts ... plenty of nice flying :)
+Steve Woods Yeah I am slowly coming to realize that I basically spent $5k on just an airframe. I think I will probably even replace the gas tank, since it is fiberglass and I have seen little tiny chunks in the fuel line trapped in the filter.
Your radio surprisingly good sounds good, Can you hear well also with that noisy engine/prop right in front of you? Can you tell me what average hanger rentals are going for in your area.
U r a God. I went up today in a LSA that is a open config go-kart with wings. I got to take over in the air and it was a leisurely fly.
Naw, I am just a minion. I am sure you had lots of fun on your flight though! Congrats!
well, I am in the middle of PPl training. We did landings today. When I get the PPL, the LSA open cockpit can be taken at night for night flying. That is said to be nice, for the air is still and dense then.
Wow, that would be beautiful to fly on a clear night in an open cockpit.
Well done sir! Way to stay calm and use your training!
"He can't go down with three barrels...not with three barrels on he can't!"
Under appreciated comment
Are you keeping a log book of all these parts as you change them so you can keep track of hours these parts are in use? Maybe before the end-of-life of the part to have these critical items swapped out after so many flight hours? Military uses that process. They call it A, B and C phase maintenance. Keep safe my good friend!
+John Smith Yes I did buy an engine log book for $7, however because I am a computer geek and grew up in the computer age, I immediately found it to be extremely inadequate. Instead I use a spreadsheet I designed to keep track of each flight, HOBBS time, maximum RPMs and temps, and I insert a line each time I do engine maintenance or replace a part. It has already become valuable to me, looking back and comparing temps and such.
High EGT means you are running lean mixture. Big Problem, man(A&P at a major airline)
Glad you made it down safely! Great video, thanks for sharing!
anyone know what those super smooth gray fields are?
Holy crap, that's some bad ass airplane !
Nice flyng. Great safety procedures
Wouldn't trust that mess of tubes, zip ties, bailing wire, & hose clamps.
did you see what the brothers from Ohio built and flew in North Carolina and Ohio?
Did you confirm replacing/rebuilding both pumps and replacing the fuel filter resolved the issue? Great landing and strategy by the way!
Yes, this fixed the problem immediately.
Thanks, man! A friend of mine had cleaned every micron of his fuel system (or so he claimed) but after he got us stranded dead in the middle of a lake I A) asked him if he had disassembled his fuel pump yet. He said, "uh.. nope". So.. I got a flathead out of his woefully inadequate tool box in the boat (or was it a swiss army knife I had?) . Aaaannyhooo..I carefully unscrewed the dozen or so cheesehead slotted screws and that *$*@#( fuel pump looked like someone had taken a mallet and packet it FULL of rust flakes. I cleaned it out and wiped out the casting with my t-shirt and presto it ran like a charm ever since. D'oh! D'oh! D'oh!
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So were you running lean? Didn't see an explanation for the cause? Edit,,, sorry,, didn't watch til the end to see the diagnoses. LOL LOve the vids since I can't and probably never will afford to do this great sport. I must live vicariously through you and Bruno Vassel the glider guy.
I don't understand why you landed after saying "Major problem" and then took to the air again without establishing what was wrong! Instead of a lengthy commentary of what the temps were doing, with the potential for trashing the motor, you should have put the thing on the ground for diagnosis.
I suspect from your comment that you didn't watch the video, you just watched a few seconds of it and then posted your comment. Try watching it again, and your confusion will evaporate like the morning dew. Make sure you read all the notes on screen. This is the sequence of events: 1) I took off 2) I discovered the engine temps were 30-40 degrees higher than typical 3) I landed 4) I diagnosed the problem and fixed it.
+glassdogangle Gotcha. I did watch the whole video but missed the "10 mins earlier" bit. Nevertheless you seemed to be aware of abnormal CHT & EGT temps early on. You keep saying "out of nowhere" "not good" "somethings not right" the temps point to lean running which could easily hole a piston so why keep doing mag checks and carry out an engine run up? If the engine is suspect then shut it down to prevent further damage.
Gotta say you kept your head and pulled off a super smooth landing.
Yeah I am always aware of engine temps during all phases of flight, including warm-up. I do everything with as much awareness as possible, including warming up. Also engine warm-up temps vary quite a bit depending on atmospheric conditions, so I am especially watching during warm-up. I did notice they were 10 or 20 degrees higher, but this is not unusual. I don't change jets every time I notice it is running warm, otherwise I would have to change them again the next day. While flying, engine temperature is the instrument I monitor the most. Every time I look down, I check engine temps. Before I fly low over a row of trees, I check engine temps, then fuel flow. I look at those two thing far more than I ever check altitude or airspeed. So if I sounded like I was aware of a potential issue, then that is why. Also, the area that I fly over is like a huge massive parking lot. If you watch the video, you can see nothing but flat landable space. If my temps ever got too bad, I can kill the engine and just land it, and trailer it out with my ultralight trailer. But yeah, better safe than sorry. Next time I have higher temps than normal, I will be checking both pumps right away before taking off.
any landing you walk away from "with out hurting any one else" is a good one. some more pricey then others. PS I am not a pilot! lol
Small aircraft just got a new meaning
Like the new radio traffic set up you have now on your flights, coolio! Hope the replacements didn't break a leg and an arm? Safe flying!
+Jeff Newton No Jeff the replacement fuel pump is $60, and the filter is $3. I think the pulse pump will be around $40 shipped. In fact, I am going to order another one of those now, so the whole fuel delivery system will be new.
+glassdogangle sounds good
Nice to have sounds we understand lol.
I have once replaced a Rotax (for a overhaul) for a Hirt engine, never again !
Beside that the Rotax has less HP, it is a much better engine to have on your plane.
Cheers and fly safe !
+FGDude Yeah I like being able to record. As far as your past experiences you probably got one of the bad Hirth engines? I forget which model it was, but it gave Hirth a bad name. Nothing wrong with Rotax at all, I went with a Hirth mainly because Rotax no longer offers a good replacement for the discontinued 503. The Hirth 3202 is the closest to the old Rotax 503 that I could find. Plus a couple guys at the field recommended it. Keep in mind that if the engine issue was caused by a lean fuel condition, that has nothing to do with the engine! If the problem proves to be a fuel issue, then the Hirth has been performing flawlessly since day 1!
+glassdogangle You could be wright here, it was indeed one of the early Hirt engines from some years ago, but I have never again trusted a Hirt engine sins, when your life is on the line, you go for security and a Hirt engine is not on my list when safety is on the table :o)
Why do you use two (different) fuel pumps on one engine btw?
+FGDude I didn't build the plane. The original builder saw fit to have both an electric pump near the tank, and a pulse pump just before the carbs. Both are flow-through pumps, in case one stops working. It could be because of how high the engine is in relation to the fuel tank.
+glassdogangle Ok, that make sens (sort of) I have build and flown a Rans S12, S5, S6 and a J3 Kitten, never had more than one pulse pump on board so for me it make no sens to have two.
I had a clogged filter once, my engine rpm dropped first to 50% then to 25% on take off, scary moment at the time :-o, it was my new build Rans S5 second pattern run after maiden, I was forgotten to flush my new polyester tank after fitting all the hose fittings, you never forget that again LOL.
+FGDude S12s are nice. I almost wish I had gotten one of those instead. So when you install a new polyester tank you have to flush it first because of the resin remnants? Or was it because of debris left over from installing the fittings? What exactly clogged the filter?
Just want to say I really enjoy your videos, they would be even better if the language was cleaner.
Agree
Wow, 1100 F is nominal for EGT? That is really interesting.
You didn't crash this aircraft, that is the good thing.
glad you got down safe, always good to err on the cautious side.
+Jake Bullit Yeah that's what I love about the field I fly from. Worst case scenario I put down in some corn and break a few parts coming in, but not much risk of dying out here from an engine failure unless it happens during an approach or takeoff from one of the other airports I like to fly to.
Stay safe and keep 'em flying!
Well, Please in advance forgive my ignorance in case that it actually apply but you may have overlook a faulty Fuel Injector or injectors?? I read on the website specs that there is an optional fuel injected engine available...
What kind of plane is this? I know nothing of planes, but I think this one looks neat.
hi gentleman, is it home made version or any reputed manufacturer, which engine it has, single or dual spark plugs it got?
That shark makes you so funny
Great handling of the situation, glad that you landed safely!!! Just wondering, shouldn't you have a callsign since you are operating a radio in the air? Just a recommendation, you should call clear of the runway once you are off the runway.
+Roger J. Ultralights do not have N numbers. It is sufficient to use the term "Ultralight" or in my case "Hurricane" when identifying yourself on the CTAF. I usually use "Hurricane" at our desolate airfield, because everyone there knows I fly a Hurricane Ultralight. If I am at a busier uncontrolled airport, I simply identify myself as "Ultralight". As far as your recommendation to call clear, that is very good advice, and I did just that at 10:15. You might have missed it? If you are talking about announcing upwind after takeoff, that is unnecessary at this field, but at a busy airport there is nothing wrong with that either if you think other aircraft need to know your position.
+glassdogangle Got it. I'm asking about the radio because I wasn't sure about the radio regulations for ultralights. And you are right, I missed the part where you call clear of the runway after you landed. As taking off from uncontrolled aerodrome, I usually call when I'm on the roll, climbing to join crosswind or climbing on runway heading and departure from the circuit or runway heading to wherever. I'm just stating what I usually do at uncontrolled and you are absolutely right, it is unnecessary to say all these stuff at where you fly but there's nothing wrong with more frequent position reports. Anyways, have fun flying and fly safe!! Love your videos!!
+Roger J. Yes you are correct. It is better to be safe than sorry, and announcing upwind, transitioning airspace, altitudes and departure intentions are all perfectly acceptable and recommended for ultralights as well as GA aircraft.
Ben meaning to ask you. I have the same electric pump and pulse pump along with F23. How many hours on the engine when your electric fuel pump went? Did you end up rebuilding pulse pump. By the way love the videos very well done every time.
"How many hours on the engine when your electric fuel pump went?" The pump had already been installed by one of the previous owners, and I have zero idea when that was, or how many hours ago, so when I installed my new Hirth engine, the pump was already old. I did rebuild the pulse pump, but it didn't work very well. You should just buy a new pump for $50 instead of rebuilding it for $25. $50 is cheap insurance.
Cool thanks brother. I would agree $50 is nothing compared to the alternative. The electric fuel pump is relatively cheep as well around $50. Very cool indeed man.
those jubilee clips on your fuel line dont look like they are happy i would find another way of joining fuel lines that your life might depend on
Great video. Did you ever find out what was wrongg?
they run hot. good landing . nice video.
Very informative and great information shared. Thank you
So what did the problem turn out to be?
Glad all is well
I would like to ask the pilot, what are these huge grey fields? It looks like it's just dust. What are people growing in there?
more dust
Do you know whether the "top bar" that goes front to back on your plane is aluminium or steel?
The top bar is aluminum. There is hardly any steel anywhere in this aircraft, except the controls cables, wing cables, all the bolts nuts and washers, and a select few of the engine parts like rings and crankshaft and piston hardware.
What's your emergency?
Yes.
Scary stuff - but nicely handled. I'll just stick to FPV I think :)
+CurryKitten LOL nothing wrong with that!
what's the difference between the runway you took off from and landed on ?
khan khan - I took off from the same Runway that I landed on.
@4:00: "...switching to 122.8 which is Lebanon/Albany frequencies..."
You must be in the Willamette Valley (i.e., Oregon)! ;)
Eric Pretorious - yup!
Reminds me of the time my engine lost power on my Pegasus Q Microlight. I guessed that the engine was starving for fuel. I put the choke and Carb heat on and opened the throttle up full and it gave me just enough power to maintain altitude and i nursed it back to the Runway.
I had the Engine looked at but they couldn't find any faults. The next time i started my takeoff. It happened again but i had enough Runway left to abandon the take off and put it back down. Scared the blazes out of me. I was only a student at the time.
I stripped the Carb and blew out the jets. I happened to suck the emulsifier jet and got a little spit of paper in my mouth. It was causing a blockage. The paper came from the paper cage inside the fuel line filter.
I changed it out for a plastic one and reported it to Pegasus Microlights. They stopped using the paper ones shortly after that, so i suspect i was not the only one who had experienced this problem.
I am definitely going to plastic filters from now on. Other pilots have reported similar things.
Very good pilot
I love the that model, it looks like a go kart with wings, it is nice though
CRAZY!!!! This is exactly why I wouldn't fly one of these things, too 'automotive', I like a quality Continental or Lycoming to sit behind, 38 yrs driving planes & am still here with not a single eng issue & many thousands of hrs.
Mixture automatically leaning out for some reason.
Did you work it out?
Did you consider contacting Houston Mission Control for assistance and advice?
+hothothotmale I called Houston, they simply told me to hang on and ride it out.
how much did this craft cost
If the feul is low, why did u take off?
Can't you change the mixture in flight? Why didn't you run it rich when it got hot?
No mixture control on this aircraft.
Its a Hirth thats why
So, do you need a glider pilots license for this or pilot
thermocouples do go bad and when they do, they go nuts!!!
Was this is oregon by any chance?
Real world, nice video and post analysis of problem. Let us know what happened after replacement of these items. Ah, unless you have already done that in a video I have not seen yet.
On a side note we are looking for a place up and that area. I am a private pilot with 1000's of hours and looking to start flying ultralight aircraft, how is the Danielson airport there toward sport flying and ultralights? If you know CT at all we use to do a lot of flying out of the old Madison Airport before it closed at end of 2006. I keep my plane at SNC (cherokee) but looking at buying a place upstate Ny thinking I would put in an airstrip.
I live on the West Coast. Daniels Field is in OR. Almost everyone at Daniel's flies ultralight experimental or sport.
oh, bummer I am on northeast usa. All the fun is out there, years ago lived in Santee Calif. and loved flying out to desert and landing, spend the night in tent etc.... learn to hang glide out at little black then moved on to big black mountain. Miss those days in late 70's early 80's. lol
Carburetor adjustment would have fixed it . But definitely not an emergency.
Beautiful plane !
How much does a plane like this cost? It's amazing!
how did i find myself on this video, i know nothing about planes
and this is why when I build mine I'll be going electric. No issues with fuel pumps and only one moving part
and, when your batteries die, every landing is an emergency landing. I like a more Prius design in aircraft... high efficiency engine for starting, electric motor, with battery backup.. this would be my personal style aircraft.
much shorter flight-time.. and shit can still go wrong.. and one should allways fly in such a manner that emergency landings are allways possible in gliding distance.. i'm not sure about lipo batteries though.. if and when they go, its allways a very hot and burning experience, even if its the esc or motors, you are not in a position to disconnect in a jiffy.. but if a two or more stroke engine dies, it just stops
IT'S A GLIDER
You sir are a boss!
Glassdogangle: Is that a Weedhopper that you're flying?
No it is a Hy-Tek Hurricane 103.
What ended up being the prob?
your gonna end up in the hudson!
What kind of ultra-light is that it looks awesome.
It is hy tek Hurricane 103
I was thinking fuel filter or dirty jets.
Time to upgrade to a Shamu
Good God. A hundred thousand views for this? Let me guess....a loose belt? Try a Beech 18 in freezing rain, night, IFR, 300 & 1/2 at Midway.
Ware do you fly?
Nice landing
The problem is a two cycle engine. It's why
certified aircraft don't use them
The problem is certified aircraft. They are 30 times more expensive to fly and maintain than these fun little 2 stroke ultralights. Plus the view from an open cockpit ultralight is far superior to the tin-can view of any twin. Have you ever seen the expression on a cows face as you fly by in your twin, or smelled a field of spring flowers at 20 AGL as you float around the countryside? I have. Semi-trucks have a purpose, yes, but motorcycles give you a feeling that doesn't compare.
+glassdogangle I would put a 4 cycle diesel on it.
I have had a 8 hour "silent" flight in a hang glider and buzzed along in numerous ultralights as well. I sold my airplane and now fly sailplanes. So it's all good... especially the new electric motors :)
Ultra lights seem to attract sketchy types with defensive attitudes towards their marginal “aircraft”. Watched your “omelette” video...flight to Independence. Would not fly with you on a bet. Hope you are never near anyone in Texas airspace. Accident waiting to happen.
Good job!
that definatly sounds like lean fuel symtoms
+leandro5999 It probably was. My pulse pump probably was experiencing a little known condition called "hydro-lock". It happens when fuel condensation runs down through the pulse line and weakens the pumps ability to pump fuel. There is an easy fix, I just need to drill a 1/64th inch hole in a strategic spot on the pump, that way any fluid will hopefully be expelled as it builds up. The downside is that I will lose a bit of pressure, but having a pump operating at 90% all the time is better than one operating at 80, then 70, then 60, etc.
Butter
i was thinking all the way through the video it was running lean
Can someone tell me what kind of plane that is?
It's a Hy-Tek Hurricane 103.
+glassdogangle I love the paint
I had a engine failure at 7,000ft and 202kts
Thats a high normal cht temp. damn
Oh ya great video work too.