Def Blinders If they ever did a film during this period it would have to have time travel, but only showing Kyle & the T-800 being sent back to 1984 at the end setting up the events in Terminator (1984) that started everything and lead us to this point.
@@johnnyringo5777 maybe because the movie takes place not long after the war started in a time where no plasma weapons existed? The machines made those future weapons, all the human had were 1997 era weapons at the latest before scavenging from the machines
I love it because you can see it in his eyes and his face, how he scans left and right, observing without an ounce of emotion. He's just taking in data and formulating a plan how best to counter the enemy, he's a human terminator. I only needed one shot of his face, and his demeanor, and I instantly understood why Skynet would wager so much stake into the last ditch effort of time travel to stop him, BEFORE he was even born, before he had a chance to become what he did.
I did like Christian Bale's John Connor for a younger version of John Connor. John was born in 1985, so by the time of Salvation, the year is 2018 where John is now 33. John wasn't the supreme leader of the Resistance until the end of Salvation, so he still had some gorwing up to do. By the time this iconic scene takes place, John is now 44, giving him that timeless badass hardened look.
Dan Caro you are out of your mind. Imagine for a moment that the technology Peter Jackson used in the Hobbit was available to him during LOTR. It would have been ruined.
I love how the Future War sets the tone. Bleak, grim, and hopeless for humanity. It's always night time probably because the smoke and pollution from Terminator foundries have blotted out the sun with heavy smoke. Soldiers are dying left and right, starvation and famine is everywhere, people have resorted to living in underground tunnels and bunkers, it really feels like humanity is on its last legs and at the brink of extinction. This is what the sequels after Terminator 3 should have been.
Sky’s are dark because of nuclear winter not because of factories and machines. If every single nuke in the world detonated at the same time this would happen
Then the fight against the machines is hopeless because the planet is ravaged and toxic for humans. If the humans destroy Skynet then they will die because of the radiation and pollutions..
"Let's make it more realistic and the Terminators more human like on the big screen with CGI!" "Wait, aren't they supposed to be jerky and janky because they AREN'T human?" "...."
That's the point, they should have made it take place in 2029, that's what everybody was wishing to see, nonetheless I agree, it does beat both of those movies.
***** Definitely, me too, these future scenes with plasma rifles and HK's fascinate me so much, it's pretty much all I wanna see from this franchise after T1 and T2!
Moody, dark and smoky, blended with brilliant purplish blue flashes of violence, whispers of pain and despair and a touch of pity. People crying in the background, children nestling to the warmth of fire inside a smashed television. Gritty and dirty, full of shadows. There is nothing to do but mourn, suffer and die in that world---starving, desperate and hunted. That is why the only scenes that capture the apocalypse are from the original: The Terminator.
The atmosphere in these scenes is absolutely incredible. Especially in Terminator 1, you can really feel the despair, desperation and hopelessness; the humanity is holding on by a thread. The music, the effects, the actors, everything is perfect. Lot's of very talented people worked on these two films.
thats because this films have something that many films lack today, and that's soul, this 2 movies had soul, t3, salvation and genisys dont, they are like glass disposable
+Resterminador Yeah that tends to happen when movies are made with money making attitude, instead of this "hey let's make a movie because we like it"-attitude. Sad.
YouStubid this is why we RUclipsrs need to get off our asses and become the people who make the next Terminator movie. (That previous comment was not meant to offend)
The way future john turns his head, it's stiff and robotic. Always found that a very clever bit of irony. He's so disciplined and calculating that in the end, to beat the machines, he became one of sorts.
+windi1982 Michael Biehn's acting skill is unparalleled. You could look into his eyes and know everything he has been through (Hell essentially) He looks just strong enough to fight but also malnourished enough to be a humbly believable survivor of a Nuclear Apocalypse and its follow up War on Metal.
I've combined all the films into an epic future war final battle. I've lowered the quality of the newer films and replaced Jai Courtney with Michael Biehn as much as possible. You can view the short film here: vimeo.com/201416349
As a grown man, 30+ yo, the atmosphere in the game is terrifying. But they went too far by adding human skeletons in decomposition. Like they should’ve added a filter in the options to toggle off these horrific scenes. Hope our world will never end like this.
I think because of cold war paranoia. At times the world came very close to ending so people's fears were genuine and somehow they captured that fear and put it into cinema. So many good 80s films out there that are timeless.
Sock ThePuppet i was always mad that they never did! I remember watching it as a kid thinking this future war is sick then bam! Back to the past. I would be so confused thinking what happened? Why move away from that kick ass war to the past.
The shots of the backlit Terminator in the bunker, with its eyes glowing, really emphasize the nightmarish atmosphere of the future war sequences. Terminator 1 and 2 nailed the future war scenes. Humanity is starving, struggling to survive and under constant threat of being hunted by the machines.
some of the coolest shots i ever saw. it's sad we will never know what it's going happen to that infiltrator robot (if he wear a torn out uniform , is that because the infiltrator took the clothes of a dead fighter before like the other terminator does? spooky), plus we can see he forced two persons to guide him into the bunker before doing his massacre. i get it the scene ends with the photo burning, to giving us the impression there will be no hope in the future as long the T800 still seek for John's mom in the past, but im still curious . does the infiltrator killed John and the rest of the people bunker before returning to Skynet to report his dead and then the humanity is doomed ? or there will be reinforcements called at the bunker bringing an heavy artillery in order to take down the infiltrator? so many of interpretations
@daegnaxqelil2733 I don't understand why those two people could be 'forced' take him back to the bunker, knowing that no matter what, they're going to be killed. The only difference is if they refuse, just they die, whereas if they take him back, them and however many of their companions the Terminator is able to kill die as well. Another thing that makes no sense is how badly the people guarding the door dropped the ball. The dogs started barking right away before the Terminator had even revealed himself. Kyle springs into action almost instantly. Yet the terminator was able to get the drop on three separate guys who were standing guard near the door.
Rumuel Nathanael well james cameron has always been a radical leftist :/ Promoting veganism and shit and being against trump and climate change human is bad believer... no wonder
Nothing will EVER beat the grittiness or despair for the skynet attack than these ten minutes. Instead they gave us CGI and poorly written lines for actors we neither wanted nor can remember.
This is why T1 and T2 are so revered. Every moment seen in the Future War feels like a desperate struggle for survival. The "sea of skulls", the people hiding under the debris, the ragged sense of desperation all of the people show, how Kyle has become detached by all the death and destruction around him, how the resistance truly feels like a ragtag group of soldiers being held together under the power of one man, said man having a look in his eyes like he's seen some serious shit, etc. Neither Salvation nor Genisys understood this aesthetic. Salvation was especially guilty of just making the Future War a crappy knockoff where most of the war takes place in a drab wasteland.
+crazyrabbits You nailed it. These future war scenes (from T1 especially) are incredible. The amosphere is dark and cold and the people are mentally and physically worn out. Not at all like the clean, stereotypical action movie feeling of Salvation and Genisys.
+crazyrabbits In the Salvation Movie..the events are dated 2018...not 2029..! So The movie is verry accurate..There's no laser rifles or plasma weapons yet !
+zonxo Reversed -- Plasma Rifles and Laser - based weaponry systems. ( In the real life and according to scientific engineers -- Laser based weapons, never ever will be created...Because it not existed technology for creating such laser device, that will be manifested in hand-held gun or rifle-laser based. And then the tube or omitted by such a weapon. The weapon could not be created. However, for plasma-based hand-held weapons, they will be able to be created.
8:23. That shot of the T-800 reaching for his weapon, completely indifferent to his limbs being blown off is terrifying. He doesn't care that he can't move anymore, only his programming drives him. Even with his combat effectiveness at Rock Bottom, he will still attempt to accomplish his objective by any means necessary. Great Visual Storytelling, James.
If you watch some of the Making Of videos, that scene is shown being filmed, and at one point a Resistance soldier picks up the downed T-800's weapon. Sadly, that part seems to have been cut and was never released. Cameron originally planned a much longer Future War scene showing the actual final victory over Skynet and the sending of the Terminators through the TDE, but that was not to be.
To be honest people under extreme pressures dissolve to their basic behaviors including tunnel vision and strive to survive at all cost. So its really not that different at all.
I waited years, decades for a future war movie, and we ended up with the crappy Terminator Salvation with zero tension. And I still kind of liked it, only because I really wanted a future war movie
Salvation was not crappy to me, and besides it is still the best of the films after T2 as it was different and explored the Future War, albeit 11 years before this. Also, it did not have rubbish humor like 3 and Genisys,
And they still could use Linda Hamilton too in the future time-line. What a waste. I am tired of thinking the only true terminators' movie are 1 and 2. 😂
@@GabrieleRiso - Well not really, Sarah Connor died of cancer before Judgement Day, that's why Reese never met her in the future. But I would have totally been down to see a movie where Cameron put his Avatar facial tech to good use and made an entire movie of Kyle Reese starring a cgi de-aged Michael Biehn.
The could’ve had 2 sequels after Terminator 2 Judgement day. One following KYLE Reese until he goes back in time. That ends on a cliff hanger with the T-1000 and the other where they reprogram the T800.
Ashberryvillage10 - They can still do this now what with Dark Fate fucking up the timeline and claiming there's more than one or infinite timelines or whatever bullshit they came up with
Only the lazers are fakeish but they still look like good the way they impact shows them slice thru people and puffs of smoke from the heat its just too good
This is what Genisys should have been. Set in the original timeline or a sequel to Salvation but in the Future War we see from the first 2 movies. Done with the whole Time Travel malarkey.
They tried it allready with Salvation. I bet if they would do it again, plot would suck again. Just leave Terminator franchise alone already. Cameron already ended it in 1991.
@@KeysAndDoorss John Connor becomes the leader of the Resistance in 2015, that is 17 years into the war. The Future War clips in the movies would probably be somewhere in the 2024-2029 timeframe, the late stage of the war. However, the destruction of Skynet wouldn't be the end of the war. Terminator Genesys had it wrong when every Terminator stopped operating when Skynet's mainframe was destroyed. It doesn't make sense, because if that is what would happen, then no Terminator could be sent back in time without becoming inoperable. Also, in a deleted scene from Terminator 2, it's mentioned that the Terminators have Neural Net Processor CPU's "learning computers" that is switched to "read only" when they're sent out alone. To me that would imply that infiltrating units have the learning mode switched off, but that the mass army groups could likely have them switched on, allowing them to learn. So when Skynet is destroyed, the work of wiping humans out could still be carried on, in particular, by the Terminators with active learning computers. I think the only things dependent upon Skynet directly would be resource gathering, research and development, and manufacturing...those would all cease when Skynet is destroyed. Giving humanity a chance to destroy them all before some start figuring out how to manufacture Terminators again or WMD's like nukes or chemical weapons. It would likely be a long mopping up process. Therefore I would view the destruction of Skynet to be more like what the battle of Gettysburg was for the Civil War.
@@Eluzian86 "Sarah Connor Chronicles" had an interesting concept in it, a rogue faction of machines that were independent of Skynet. Future John was actively trying to get them to form an alliance with Tech Com against Skynet (something that many others in the Resistance were against, for obvious reasons). I'd love to see this concept explored more, especially if there is a faction of machines that actually learns to value human life and agrees to fight with the Resistance in exchange for simply being allowed to co-exist.
Franco Columbu (rip) was a non actor and yet he portrayed more menace and malice in that one scene than the sequels (3/4/Dark Fate) combined, he just mettled into the stragglers and just laid waste to that compound was truly terrifying, can you imagine a future with these things walking around...brilliant scene.
Personally, I think Franco Columbu’s Terminator was the most terrifying in all the films. He perfectly embodies the the core concept of the Terminator: a near-unstoppable killing machine who doesn’t hold back and has no emotion.
Franco Columbu's likeness was immortalized by Terminator Resistance in both the Infiltrator Mode and Annihilation Line DLCs respectively, much like how Rutger Hauer was immortalized in the game Observer. It's gonna be painful when Arnold eventually dies, even more so whenever anyone has to see the T-850 get lowered into the molten steel in the ending to Terminator 2...now I feel like I'm gonna cry just by saying that
This is what Salvation should have been.. A dark, gritty, hopeless war. A war where humanity have to hide like rats in the tunnels. My favorite scene in the whole Terminator franchise is Reeses future flashback. It really captures that sense of hopelessness and petrifying fear. You hear the sick crying in agony, you see the children hunting rats for their next meal, and you see the fear, the pain, and the hopelessness on everyones face. One of the best scenes in all of cinema in my opnion. Its horrifying to think that this vision could become a future reality for us as a species.
Sean O'Dea Agreed. We humans are very tenacious when it comes to self preservation. If this does become a reality I know for a fact that the human race wont go out without a fight.
Geoffery MacNeill Hey guess what? Skynet IS now real! But he's just not self awarded so... I think we should be fine... *FOR* now. Plus we're already so close of making Terminator models in real life! Especially the T-600 Model, according to our Robotic technologies so far... We're not that really far! In fact we're getting close! (Or maybe half)
This small scene really could be fleshed out into a whole movie. A cast supporting john, and showing us how they hide and resist against the machines. Maybe there are other human hold out cities. I mean it writes itself.
@@danskyl7279 Look up the (very grounded) theory of technological singularities. It's terrifying that we may end up making something *worse* than Skynet.
Raymond Saint it really goes to show how the machines think of us. Which is nothing more then a bug to be crushed under foot. Not so fun being the bottom of the food chain now is it?
@@JeanLucCaptain It's in LA where there were lots of people roaming the streets and such before the nukes fell. It makes sense that after their bodies burned/rotted away decades ago, their bones were left in what once could have been a busy intersection for example.
What's scary is that it's currently 2023 and the series takes place in 2029! Only 6 years to go, plus Tech companies are against a run away ai, which is what the whole premise of terminator is on
I always loved the scene at 1:33 where Kyle walks through the camp and sees the broken, lost souls in there. The cries of the woman off in the distance as the camera panned across the faces of children huddled together in front of that burned out t.v. is chilling. The man feeding himself scraps of something that looked inedible. It made you ponder what she was crying over, what was going through their young minds, and what it would be like to be so hungry that you would eat anything including the rat that the boy finds and holds up happily. This is what an apocalypse would look and feel like. You don't get films like this anymore, and there's a reason for it. The people who run this world don't want you to think and feel because good art does that, and it can stir people to action. The people who are in charge of cranking out the crap that we have today just want you to consume, be a mindless, happy serf, and think pleasant thoughts while they quietly compel us to usher in a future like this.
The recent Star Trek movies are proof of that. It really must be pissing the government off to realize Americans aren't meekly surrendering their guns like the Europeans did, thus making it much harder to realize this "future".
Kitty McRatSlayer While I see no real benefit they would gain from allowing machines that want to kill them just as much as everyone else to destroy the world, I see your point.
Exactly!!! I remember seing that movie as a child and that particular scene carved me. I still recall the feelings it caused back then. That's what makes a great movie. Hollywood with "Salvation" just sterilized it...
And that's how it should end. But shouldn't be a full time travel movie, hell, the first movie wasn't really a time travel movie. It had time travel bits but it was more of a slasher film. Time Travel was just the vehicle to get the unstoppable future machine to present day. (1984)
+USAgent88 there are 2 timelines. 1 where they stop judgement day in t2. 2 is the timeline where kyle reese came from and where the war happens. we live in timeline 1 where timeline 2 can attack our future
It really should have been 3 movies. The first terminator, Judgement day, and the a movie about the future war where we see Reese sent back in time as well as the other T800 sent back. That's all we really needed and it would have been great.
@Comfortably Dumb Because it is a GRADUAL process to get to where we are in T1 and T2. You clearly have no idea of the concept of PROGRESSION, so you are the real dumbass. They had already experienced major losses at that point but it got WORSE over time. The war with the machines lasted over 32 years. Use some thought for once, fool.
Michael biehn played that role so accurately, that it breaks my heart his character dies. Honestly, nothing can beat the first and second terminator films. The series should've ended by then. I agree with all of you, i wanna see a film in these war scenes, learn more about the origins of kyle reese in the eyes of james cameron, and see how the resistance formed. everything sucked after t3
Terminator: Resistance is everything a Terminator fan wants in a sequel. It’s the Future War but playable and you are the instrument in the downfall of Skynet. It’s the epitome of fan-service.
I bought it not too long ago and just got around to playing it, you're right. I really like how they stuck to the T2 version of the future war. It's a pretty awesome piece of fan service.
SPOLIERS: They also hinted in the game that there is a part where the shelter is destroyed. It is heavily hinted but not shown that the Terminator you see in T1 that attacks the shelter is the same one done in the game thus making the game take place in terms of time lines right between T1 to T2 before any time traveling is done.
Well seems the superpowers are desperately running towards this reality. Just because they feel threaten by poor countries. Seems like people nowadays want so much this to become true. Cameron doesnt depict a real fact in the movie and its when the boys are killing that rat. Seems to me that he envisioned cannibalism as well.
The sound of those future weapons was great! Love it, also I love how T1,T2 and Terminator:Genysis use the blue light whenever they show scenes of the future war, the blue light makes the future bleak (as if there no hope)
John connor surveying the battlefield with zero emotion almost seems like a terminator scanning for targets...considering the only "male" role model he had was a T800 and he's spent years fighting a prolonged war in a nightmarish apocalyptic future...well he'd probably be more of a cold ruthless bad ass rather than a heroic symbol of hope. I don't see this guy giving many uplifting and inspirational speeches...it would have been cool to see an adult version of the character struggling to retain his humanity, after years of having to sacrifice his troops and make difficult almost impossible decisions to ensure the survival of the species...shit like drafts and conscriptions, suicide squads who gets fed and equipped with their limited supplies etc... I imagine a character who displays zero fear or hesitation with relentless conviction and determination...bolstered by the knowledge that they can and eventually do win the war against the machines...whereas to everyone else it seems hopeless and impossible...so early on when he first appears as a leader his personal actions would appear reckless and damn near suicidal to others...but gradually over time as he defeats the terminators, not only surviving but actually winning the battles time and again the survivors eventually rally behind him...as if it was fate or destiny.
Yesterday I saw T2 again and I thought the same when I see the same scene you are talking about. That could be a great argumental arch for the character. I hope some day I have the talent enough to write a sequel in the way of a novel or a screenplay that make justice to this saga.
I will always love my father for taking me to see T2 in theater when it came out. I was in 1st grade. You can only imagine how blown away I was by the opening scene.
I think the scene reaches its climax with the burning telly with its screen being broken. To me it really means "war is no longer being televised, the horror is among us". There is no more screen to shield us from reality. Masterfully executed by Cameron, this is brilliant.
This sequence from T1 showed how Terminators can have more skins than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yet every single sequel only depicts T-800 as his skin, just to force Arnold into the movie, even though he's 70.
Predator? Aliens/Aliens? Jurassic Park? Blade Runner? Star Wars IV, V, VI??? Lot of great sci fi movies. Each fits a certain mold, yet all are amazing.
This is all the info I found so far for resistance Its story is set in post-apocalyptic 2028 Los Angeles and serves as a prequel to James Cameron's Terminator franchise films The Terminator (1984) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991). Players will take on the role of a new character, Jacob Rivers, a soldier in the John Connor-led human resistance against Skynet's robotic killing machines. The game will have multiple possible endings.[1] A sixth film in the Terminator franchise, Terminator: Dark Fate, is being released shortly prior to the game's release, and the game does not appear to have any relation or connection to the sixth film's timeline or characters.[2] Like Dark Fate, however, the game appears to be ignoring all Terminatorfranchise films after Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
Salvation should've been this dystopian future where you can clearly see humanity is not just on the brink, but almost completely outgunned as an underground resistance. It really should've given this David vs. Goliath feel to it. Maybe if they did a sequel to Salvation they could've explored the really dark days of the Resistance.
Except humanity wasn't outgunned they still had 4 billion people left and pushed skynet back albeit it took a long time they were winning, which is why skynet sent back the t 800 in the first place
Humanity had billions of people and advanced military equipment such as vehicles by the time Salvation took place. This here is the late stage of the war where humanity’s military forces had been reduced to a shell of their former selves.
AMEN!!. Producers should take note on how well Cameron Directed this, best of all, 34 years ago!!! They don't make NOTHING like they used to, They put much more heart in their films back in the days, now its all about greens, SAD SAD SAAAAD!!
The plasma beams coming out of the rifles is CGI. Come now, stop it. The first 2 Terminator movies could not have been done with out using some CGI. What makes them great is that they used practical effects in combination with CGI to make it more convincing.
Pepeople only see bad cgi (like in star wars) but if the story is good than people wont notice it and if the cgi is done really well you won’t notice at al just searche good cgi on RUclips .
It always cracks me up how the soldier who got shot goes from groaning in pain and wounded to immediately standing up with a straight face and saluting to John, he just has that influence
The resistance wasn't just winning, they won the war and blew up Skynet. That's why he sent the terminator back in time to 1984. It was Skynet's last attempt to live by rewriting the past.
The Resistance couldn't win a conventional victory in 2029. Which is why when John and Reese smashed Skynet's Defense Grid in an unexpected Surprise Attack. It was merely the Beginning of the end for Skynet as it lost control of nearly 80% of its entire Machine Army (But Skynet itself would feel threatened enough to send 2 Terminators back in time). It would take a few more years until all traces of Skynet were wiped from existence. And even so Humanity would fight among themselves after the wars end over what little resources were left. Or John Connor would lead Humanity through a long brutal recovery using what tech Skynet left behind to rebuild the broken world.
Frozen storm I understood that, but how did he build an army after the war after destroying all infrastructure when all factories require humans to operate.
Salvation was shot with the goal of gritty realism, thus didn't look at fantastical as this did, plus the colours were drained and replaced with a blue that isn't cold like Cameron's filming. It also was set in 2018, after T3, so Judgement Day wasn't so far off compared to 1997-2028 like here (thus there was less time to develop plasma tech and all the different units). Simply put, of course Salvation doesn't measure up, as it simply didn't exist in the same timeline (plus had different direction).
@@m42037 It's not a joke, my friend is a research scientist at MIT, working on human-centered AI, autonomous vehicles, deep learning, deep RL, computer vision, and IT. His work alone can be used as the basis for SkyNet TODAY!
Before he retired in 1980 Navy admiral Hyman Rickover, who built the U.S. nuclear Navy, appeared before a U.S. Senate hearing where one of the senators asked him if humanity would ever destroy itself in a nuclear war, to which the admiral answered: "Yes, one day there will be a global thermonuclear war. It is in our genes to destroy ourselves." I wonder, is he right?
It looks at best like a mediocre movie on same level of terminator salvation. Terminator 3 wasnt that great either but it would be more a guilty pleasure movie if they just made the terminator more like this. Like they literally live more in a hell world in the depiction here. But in the new movies it looks just like an average wasteland. It just is not that believable more or less.
The future war scenes from T1 and T2 always scared me as a kid growing up. It’s the idea of highly superior machines with no feelings (and efficient at killing) that make these scenarios so frightening. It also shows how fragile humans are compared to a fully cybernetic adversary. James Cameron nailed it right on the head with both movies.
Salvation is descent, but Genisys is horrible as far as in the Terminators, they make weird sounds and look very CGI looking, at least in Salvation they used dummies mounted on humans.
They didn’t even have to do a whole lot, yet these scenes are incredibly powerful and emotional. I feel like a lot of movies from back then were like that.
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Enough with the damn time travel, its been done to death. THIS is the Terminator setting that we want.
Def Blinders
If they ever did a film during this period it would have to have time travel, but only showing Kyle & the T-800 being sent back to 1984 at the end setting up the events in Terminator (1984) that started everything and lead us to this point.
Salvation gave us that and was going to be a trilogy leading up to the beginning of the first film, but the studio scrapped it.
@meaturama Terminator: Salvation, and it was quite terrible.
@meaturama ya but it makes no sense because everyone's using normal guns and no lazers
@@johnnyringo5777 maybe because the movie takes place not long after the war started in a time where no plasma weapons existed? The machines made those future weapons, all the human had were 1997 era weapons at the latest before scavenging from the machines
This future version of John Connor never speaks a word, not one word, and yet he's still the most god damn badass of all the iterations.
Best movie by parsecs...all the sequels were about jokes, one liners...bs.the first was lightvyears more real .
I love it because you can see it in his eyes and his face, how he scans left and right, observing without an ounce of emotion. He's just taking in data and formulating a plan how best to counter the enemy, he's a human terminator. I only needed one shot of his face, and his demeanor, and I instantly understood why Skynet would wager so much stake into the last ditch effort of time travel to stop him, BEFORE he was even born, before he had a chance to become what he did.
I did like Christian Bale's John Connor for a younger version of John Connor. John was born in 1985, so by the time of Salvation, the year is 2018 where John is now 33. John wasn't the supreme leader of the Resistance until the end of Salvation, so he still had some gorwing up to do. By the time this iconic scene takes place, John is now 44, giving him that timeless badass hardened look.
RMJ1984 The dumbest fool of them all
@@jordanbachmann49 Oh you hurt my feelings little boy :( haha
The lack of advanced CGI is exactly what makes this look so real and terrifying
That is why I love practical effects. This over CGI era is making everything look plastic.
@@AdrianMDavis CGI is needed for more advanced effects. See Blade Runner 2049 for how CGI is correctly used.
Dan Caro you are out of your mind. Imagine for a moment that the technology Peter Jackson used in the Hobbit was available to him during LOTR. It would have been ruined.
Agree, I was totally impressed with the effect, it was 25 yrs ago
Mmmm yeah it looks like real cheap toys so scary.
I love how the Future War sets the tone. Bleak, grim, and hopeless for humanity. It's always night time probably because the smoke and pollution from Terminator foundries have blotted out the sun with heavy smoke. Soldiers are dying left and right, starvation and famine is everywhere, people have resorted to living in underground tunnels and bunkers, it really feels like humanity is on its last legs and at the brink of extinction. This is what the sequels after Terminator 3 should have been.
No, Reese said they stay down by day and move around at night
Sky’s are dark because of nuclear winter not because of factories and machines. If every single nuke in the world detonated at the same time this would happen
Exactly!!!
Then the fight against the machines is hopeless because the planet is ravaged and toxic for humans. If the humans destroy Skynet then they will die because of the radiation and pollutions..
you mean after T2
The funny part is that these scenes hold well in both in quality and cinematography to this day while the CGI from the newer ones doesn't.
Ayah!
"Let's make it more realistic and the Terminators more human like on the big screen with CGI!"
"Wait, aren't they supposed to be jerky and janky because they AREN'T human?"
"...."
Honestly I think that the battle scenes in Terminator Salvation were very good.
@@22steve5150 Just the throwing John Connor around instead of killing him was silly. But that's an annoying modern cliche of action movies.
People now realized that CGI or the new they so called Ai drawing, requires tons of detail and that is not a cheap work.
...what Salvation should have been.
That's the point, they should have made it take place in 2029, that's what everybody was wishing to see, nonetheless I agree, it does beat both of those movies.
*****
Definitely, me too, these future scenes with plasma rifles and HK's fascinate me so much, it's pretty much all I wanna see from this franchise after T1 and T2!
Shut the hell up kid. These movies were good. You got that durag on tight and gold chain anchor pulling your brain down.
Terminator 1 was excellent.
Terminator Salvation takes place in 2018. 11 years before 2029
Moody, dark and smoky, blended with brilliant purplish blue flashes of violence, whispers of pain and despair and a touch of pity. People crying in the background, children nestling to the warmth of fire inside a smashed television. Gritty and dirty, full of shadows.
There is nothing to do but mourn, suffer and die in that world---starving, desperate and hunted. That is why the only scenes that capture the apocalypse are from the original: The Terminator.
Good observation
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽bravoo
qvc1212 And destroy Skynet.
perfectly said.
You pretty much described the current life that i am living
The fact we never got a prequel movie like this is a sin to this day...
Wouldn't it be a sequel? It hurts my brain thinking about it
A pre-sequel.
We got terminator future shock and terminator resistance. It's as close as well get to this.
I wish
Terminator Resistance is as close as you can get to it
Lots of plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.
+Norm Kid But no UZEE NEIN MEELEEMEDAH!
+Henrik Høyrup lol
+Henrik Høyrup Hey! it's just what you see pal.
+Henrik Høyrup So which shall it be pal?
All!
This is exactly the movie that every one wants
Agreed !
@Ivan Lopez Barrera weird always thought they were leading up to this war
Focused on the Judgment War in the Future, instead going being lead all over by time travel.
Complete with the 80s synth
@@Kolateak_ Probably because it came out in 1984/5
The atmosphere in these scenes is absolutely incredible. Especially in Terminator 1, you can really feel the despair, desperation and hopelessness; the humanity is holding on by a thread. The music, the effects, the actors, everything is perfect. Lot's of very talented people worked on these two films.
thats because this films have something that many films lack today, and that's soul, this 2 movies had soul, t3, salvation and genisys dont, they are like glass disposable
+Resterminador Yeah that tends to happen when movies are made with money making attitude, instead of this "hey let's make a movie because we like it"-attitude. Sad.
YouStubid this is why we RUclipsrs need to get off our asses and become the people who make the next Terminator movie. (That previous comment was not meant to offend)
James Cameron and Steven Spilberg are the kings of movie industry.
give it a couple of decades and this will be reality...
The way future john turns his head, it's stiff and robotic. Always found that a very clever bit of irony. He's so disciplined and calculating that in the end, to beat the machines, he became one of sorts.
Michael Biehn was underrated in the whole franchise!!! By far the best Kyle Reese!
+windi1982 he is the only kyle reese to me. anyone else was shit
I did like the young actor that played the younger Kyle Reese in salvation
+Guyver Zoanoid yeah the actor was good , but he didnt have much to work with.
+windi1982 Michael Biehn's acting skill is unparalleled. You could look into his eyes and know everything he has been through (Hell essentially) He looks just strong enough to fight but also malnourished enough to be a humbly believable survivor of a Nuclear Apocalypse and its follow up War on Metal.
I've combined all the films into an epic future war final battle. I've lowered the quality of the newer films and replaced Jai Courtney with Michael Biehn as much as possible. You can view the short film here: vimeo.com/201416349
The original adult John Connor is the best
He did not even have to say a word and still looks badass.
@@ronlam9999 agreed. Michael Edwards is the actor who plays general John Connor .
i thought christian bale did a pretty good job.
@@plutonium120 yuk!
@@SkemeKOS i want to like your profile pic but... what? 1. christian bale is a total stud. 2. he's a freaking awesome actor.
*Go play "Terminator:Resistance", it's exactly what we've always wanted of a Terminator movie set in the future.*
As a grown man, 30+ yo, the atmosphere in the game is terrifying. But they went too far by adding human skeletons in decomposition. Like they should’ve added a filter in the options to toggle off these horrific scenes. Hope our world will never end like this.
I just wish it had a AAA budget it could have been even better
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey I'm on the final mission right now and yeah it's not bad. Kinda dated gameplay but the Atmosphere and music sell it.
@@mikeyfjune it's still better than t3 salvation genesis and especially dark fate I'm just happy the creators had passion where Hollywood didn't
Yes, it's amazing how low-budget game manage to deliver what Hollywood multi-millions budget fails.
I still remember Jennifer
I'll be honest, that new Terminator game they released actually captures the feeling of these scenes pretty well.
why the 80's movies are always better ?
bullt91 cause they had originality
And a fuckin' soundtrack too ! ;)
I think because of cold war paranoia. At times the world came very close to ending so people's fears were genuine and somehow they captured that fear and put it into cinema. So many good 80s films out there that are timeless.
@Jay Slomine creativity and originality is less appreciated these days
i say lacking cgi forced creativity.
Here's an idea Hollywood....make THIS into a full length movie. James Cameron's original vision, not that garbage you spew out every few years.
Sock ThePuppet use the same effects as these scenes frankly i found these future scenes far more interesting
They did, it was called Terminator Salvation
Sock ThePuppet And use the same style of synthesis music too as the first movie.
Sock ThePuppet i was always mad that they never did! I remember watching it as a kid thinking this future war is sick then bam! Back to the past. I would be so confused thinking what happened? Why move away from that kick ass war to the past.
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The shots of the backlit Terminator in the bunker, with its eyes glowing, really emphasize the nightmarish atmosphere of the future war sequences. Terminator 1 and 2 nailed the future war scenes. Humanity is starving, struggling to survive and under constant threat of being hunted by the machines.
What also sucks is you wouldnt know who to trust
Nowadays they would just throw these people around the battlefield until the victim finds some fabric and kills them.
some of the coolest shots i ever saw. it's sad we will never know what it's going happen to that infiltrator robot (if he wear a torn out uniform , is that because the infiltrator took the clothes of a dead fighter before like the other terminator does? spooky), plus we can see he forced two persons to guide him into the bunker before doing his massacre. i get it the scene ends with the photo burning, to giving us the impression there will be no hope in the future as long the T800 still seek for John's mom in the past, but im still curious . does the infiltrator killed John and the rest of the people bunker before returning to Skynet to report his dead and then the humanity is doomed ? or there will be reinforcements called at the bunker bringing an heavy artillery in order to take down the infiltrator? so many of interpretations
@daegnaxqelil2733 I don't understand why those two people could be 'forced' take him back to the bunker, knowing that no matter what, they're going to be killed. The only difference is if they refuse, just they die, whereas if they take him back, them and however many of their companions the Terminator is able to kill die as well.
Another thing that makes no sense is how badly the people guarding the door dropped the ball. The dogs started barking right away before the Terminator had even revealed himself. Kyle springs into action almost instantly. Yet the terminator was able to get the drop on three separate guys who were standing guard near the door.
@@danieljackson1272 they had to guide it that's all , that's how it worked, the badly gaurded door , well....
Dear James Cameron.
JUST MAKE THIS MOVIE.
Yours, the fans.
Stuart Price im sure after the avatar movies he’ll reboot it and call it that after he’s done. It will be a fat gift honestly
James C: Sorry I'm now siding with feminists and made T Dark Fate. If you are my true fans please consider to watch that shit movie.
Rumuel Nathanael well james cameron has always been a radical leftist :/
Promoting veganism and shit and being against trump and climate change human is bad believer... no wonder
Why not just make it an epic game honestly?
Stuart Price he too busy making those stupid Avatar movies
The desperation in this scene is insane !
Jordan Boyle,This is fast becoming a reality in the real world!😒
Crazy how the soldiers get a couple shots on the t-800 but it counters with a rail of gun fire like it was nothing
@@muhammadislam0000 if AI becomes way too smart, the posibility of a war between human kind and machines could be extremely realistic.
@@muhammadislam0000 Hope it becomes one
Its probably t850 because it can withstand against plasma rifle or weak plasma rifles made to impact humans but not titanium.
Nothing will EVER beat the grittiness or despair for the skynet attack than these ten minutes.
Instead they gave us CGI and poorly written lines for actors we neither wanted nor can remember.
This is why T1 and T2 are so revered. Every moment seen in the Future War feels like a desperate struggle for survival. The "sea of skulls", the people hiding under the debris, the ragged sense of desperation all of the people show, how Kyle has become detached by all the death and destruction around him, how the resistance truly feels like a ragtag group of soldiers being held together under the power of one man, said man having a look in his eyes like he's seen some serious shit, etc.
Neither Salvation nor Genisys understood this aesthetic. Salvation was especially guilty of just making the Future War a crappy knockoff where most of the war takes place in a drab wasteland.
+crazyrabbits You nailed it. These future war scenes (from T1 especially) are incredible. The amosphere is dark and cold and the people are mentally and physically worn out. Not at all like the clean, stereotypical action movie feeling of Salvation and Genisys.
+crazyrabbits In the Salvation Movie..the events are dated 2018...not 2029..! So The movie is verry accurate..There's no laser rifles or plasma weapons yet !
+zonxo Reversed -- Plasma Rifles and Laser - based weaponry systems. ( In the real life and according to scientific engineers -- Laser based weapons, never ever will be created...Because it not existed technology for creating such laser device, that will be manifested in hand-held gun or rifle-laser based. And then the tube or omitted by such a weapon. The weapon could not be created. However, for plasma-based hand-held weapons, they will be able to be created.
+coot ster I'm pretty sure Salvation was set a long time before the battles depicted in T1/T2, as Skynet haven't developed laser weaponry in T:S.
coot ster True, it's little stuff like that that made the film that much worse. That said, I did like some parts of the film.
8:23. That shot of the T-800 reaching for his weapon, completely indifferent to his limbs being blown off is terrifying. He doesn't care that he can't move anymore, only his programming drives him. Even with his combat effectiveness at Rock Bottom, he will still attempt to accomplish his objective by any means necessary.
Great Visual Storytelling, James.
If you watch some of the Making Of videos, that scene is shown being filmed, and at one point a Resistance soldier picks up the downed T-800's weapon. Sadly, that part seems to have been cut and was never released.
Cameron originally planned a much longer Future War scene showing the actual final victory over Skynet and the sending of the Terminators through the TDE, but that was not to be.
Seems to me that you're the real expert, Wommy.
Leave your stupid comments in your pocket
To be honest people under extreme pressures dissolve to their basic behaviors including tunnel vision and strive to survive at all cost.
So its really not that different at all.
I waited years, decades for a future war movie, and we ended up with the crappy Terminator Salvation with zero tension. And I still kind of liked it, only because I really wanted a future war movie
Salvation was not crappy to me, and besides it is still the best of the films after T2 as it was different and explored the Future War, albeit 11 years before this. Also, it did not have rubbish humor like 3 and Genisys,
Cant believe people say Salvation is crap when T3 and Genesys SUCKED BALLS. Salvation is the real third movie for me.
CGI ARE KILLING MOVIES
Salvation isn't that bad it's just not as epic as T1 and 2. But it is not bad.
Salvation 2 should have this battle. Just as they did the 1st one. No humor. No love stories. Just a war for survival.
1980's sci fi was fucking unreal and unrivaled.
Amen!
+Two Random Auzzies are we talking about god? No. Get out of here with that bullshit!
You must be fun at parties..... It's not a dick, don't take it so hard....
Jesus is your savior! 😉😎
+Two Random Auzzies what? He died 1,970 years ago!
Terminator Resistance delivers on this promise.
They should've just made a terminator movie of Kyle Reese's last few days in his present before returning to the past
And they still could use Linda Hamilton too in the future time-line. What a waste. I am tired of thinking the only true terminators' movie are 1 and 2. 😂
@@GabrieleRiso - Well not really, Sarah Connor died of cancer before Judgement Day, that's why Reese never met her in the future. But I would have totally been down to see a movie where Cameron put his Avatar facial tech to good use and made an entire movie of Kyle Reese starring a cgi de-aged Michael Biehn.
The could’ve had 2 sequels after Terminator 2 Judgement day. One following KYLE Reese until he goes back in time. That ends on a cliff hanger with the T-1000 and the other where they reprogram the T800.
Ashberryvillage10 - They can still do this now what with Dark Fate fucking up the timeline and claiming there's more than one or infinite timelines or whatever bullshit they came up with
@@GabrieleRiso sarah conner chronicles is low key up there
It's still respectable today because it's all tangible , no soulless CGI.
Stop hating on CGI for no reason. Either way this stuff isn't real.
at least you can touch it
Only the lazers are fakeish but they still look like good the way they impact shows them slice thru people and puffs of smoke from the heat its just too good
@@metoo3342 except technically they are real
@@mikeperry7335 Except for the future war
This is what Genisys should have been. Set in the original timeline or a sequel to Salvation but in the Future War we see from the first 2 movies. Done with the whole Time Travel malarkey.
The need to make a Terminator movie set in THIS period of the War.
They tried it allready with Salvation. I bet if they would do it again, plot would suck again. Just leave Terminator franchise alone already. Cameron already ended it in 1991.
@@haskapaska No no I mean with the lasers. Not bullets.
Thank You!
yeah!! And they killed John connor in the new movie. WHAT THE HELL MAN!!!!
Идиоты они ,от истерики денни тошнит!!!!
This future looks far more terrifying than what we saw in Salvation.
What we saw in Salvation was an alternate timeline with different rules and characters.
LegendOfLegends19100 or just the early stage of the war
@@KeysAndDoorss True. John Connor had not become the leader of the Resistance yet. He became at the end of the film.
@@KeysAndDoorss John Connor becomes the leader of the Resistance in 2015, that is 17 years into the war. The Future War clips in the movies would probably be somewhere in the 2024-2029 timeframe, the late stage of the war.
However, the destruction of Skynet wouldn't be the end of the war. Terminator Genesys had it wrong when every Terminator stopped operating when Skynet's mainframe was destroyed. It doesn't make sense, because if that is what would happen, then no Terminator could be sent back in time without becoming inoperable.
Also, in a deleted scene from Terminator 2, it's mentioned that the Terminators have Neural Net Processor CPU's "learning computers" that is switched to "read only" when they're sent out alone. To me that would imply that infiltrating units have the learning mode switched off, but that the mass army groups could likely have them switched on, allowing them to learn. So when Skynet is destroyed, the work of wiping humans out could still be carried on, in particular, by the Terminators with active learning computers. I think the only things dependent upon Skynet directly would be resource gathering, research and development, and manufacturing...those would all cease when Skynet is destroyed. Giving humanity a chance to destroy them all before some start figuring out how to manufacture Terminators again or WMD's like nukes or chemical weapons.
It would likely be a long mopping up process. Therefore I would view the destruction of Skynet to be more like what the battle of Gettysburg was for the Civil War.
@@Eluzian86 "Sarah Connor Chronicles" had an interesting concept in it, a rogue faction of machines that were independent of Skynet. Future John was actively trying to get them to form an alliance with Tech Com against Skynet (something that many others in the Resistance were against, for obvious reasons). I'd love to see this concept explored more, especially if there is a faction of machines that actually learns to value human life and agrees to fight with the Resistance in exchange for simply being allowed to co-exist.
Franco Columbu (rip) was a non actor and yet he portrayed more menace and malice in that one scene than the sequels (3/4/Dark Fate) combined, he just mettled into the stragglers and just laid waste to that compound was truly terrifying, can you imagine a future with these things walking around...brilliant scene.
Funny how Skynet seem to use bodybuilders for their template.
Personally, I think Franco Columbu’s Terminator was the most terrifying in all the films. He perfectly embodies the the core concept of the Terminator: a near-unstoppable killing machine who doesn’t hold back and has no emotion.
@@terrorsaur599 totally agree
@@jamiea7815 it's canonically a deliberate choice because it's the only skin that can convincingly hide the big endoskeletons.
Franco Columbu's likeness was immortalized by Terminator Resistance in both the Infiltrator Mode and Annihilation Line DLCs respectively, much like how Rutger Hauer was immortalized in the game Observer.
It's gonna be painful when Arnold eventually dies, even more so whenever anyone has to see the T-850 get lowered into the molten steel in the ending to Terminator 2...now I feel like I'm gonna cry just by saying that
These 9 minutes & a half of footage is better than T3, T4 & T5 combined
Not saying much. trash + trash + trash = landfill
@@ongba5890 - T3 now looks like a damn masterpiece when comparing it to the blasphemy that is Dark Fate...
And now T6
@@_ace786 Hell yeah man, was just re-watching this and thinking the same thing. Tim Miller missed a golden opportunity.
I liked T4 :/
3:42 those eyes man. This whole scene actually got to me, what a massacre. Amazing.
The movie is a masterpiece.
And all this was made in 1984 amazing way ahead it time
So so far ahead of its time, it's actually astonishing.
It aged perfectly. If anything, it should be upscaled to 4K.
Practical mixed with cgi is always better
This is what Salvation should have been.. A dark, gritty, hopeless war. A war where humanity have to hide like rats in the tunnels.
My favorite scene in the whole Terminator franchise is Reeses future flashback. It really captures that sense of hopelessness and petrifying fear. You hear the sick crying in agony, you see the children hunting rats for their next meal, and you see the fear, the pain, and the hopelessness on everyones face.
One of the best scenes in all of cinema in my opnion. Its horrifying to think that this vision could become a future reality for us as a species.
Geoffery MacNeill Even though it was hopeless it was also nice to see the last remains of the military still fighting strong.
Sean O'Dea Agreed. We humans are very tenacious when it comes to self preservation. If this does become a reality I know for a fact that the human race wont go out without a fight.
Geoffery MacNeill Hey guess what? Skynet IS now real! But he's just not self awarded so... I think we should be fine... *FOR* now. Plus we're already so close of making Terminator models in real life! Especially the T-600 Model, according to our Robotic technologies so far... We're not that really far! In fact we're getting close! (Or maybe half)
Salvation was to be the start of a trilogy that would lead up to the original. But that got canned..... :(
This small scene really could be fleshed out into a whole movie. A cast supporting john, and showing us how they hide and resist against the machines. Maybe there are other human hold out cities. I mean it writes itself.
I do not want to live in this future
If we keep up with the technology we're developing, who is to say may be one day A.I might rise against us in the future?
Invader Zim there's always a you in these comment sections
This will eventually happen one day.. Technology takes over and we human are the victims of our own destruction. Its in our nature. But..
@@danskyl7279 Look up the (very grounded) theory of technological singularities. It's terrifying that we may end up making something *worse* than Skynet.
@@danskyl7279 agenda 50 which most people dont know about because it's been removed and scrubbed from us
I love those Hunter Killer Tanks, they look so cool.
Now THIS is the friking war i want in a 2 hour movie! Bring it on already!!
I think the most genuinely terrifying in these scenes is the sound of crushing human bones.
Maybe it's a cheap trick but hey it works. Eww.
Raymond Saint it really goes to show how the machines think of us. Which is nothing more then a bug to be crushed under foot. Not so fun being the bottom of the food chain now is it?
I think it's the first person hit by the laser. She explodes into nothing and just like that shes gone! Just like the new(ish) war of the worlds.
what amazes me is HOW CONVENIENTLY those bones are piled up.
We took eggs, blew out the yolk , & crushed them by hand to make the crunching skulls sound.
@@JeanLucCaptain It's in LA where there were lots of people roaming the streets and such before the nukes fell. It makes sense that after their bodies burned/rotted away decades ago, their bones were left in what once could have been a busy intersection for example.
The effects look way better than today's CGI crap.
What's scary is that it's currently 2023 and the series takes place in 2029! Only 6 years to go, plus Tech companies are against a run away ai, which is what the whole premise of terminator is on
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I always loved the scene at 1:33 where Kyle walks through the camp and sees the broken, lost souls in there. The cries of the woman off in the distance as the camera panned across the faces of children huddled together in front of that burned out t.v. is chilling. The man feeding himself scraps of something that looked inedible. It made you ponder what she was crying over, what was going through their young minds, and what it would be like to be so hungry that you would eat anything including the rat that the boy finds and holds up happily. This is what an apocalypse would look and feel like. You don't get films like this anymore, and there's a reason for it. The people who run this world don't want you to think and feel because good art does that, and it can stir people to action. The people who are in charge of cranking out the crap that we have today just want you to consume, be a mindless, happy serf, and think pleasant thoughts while they quietly compel us to usher in a future like this.
The recent Star Trek movies are proof of that. It really must be pissing the government off to realize Americans aren't meekly surrendering their guns like the Europeans did, thus making it much harder to realize this "future".
+Cool 1100 1010 T That was spot on what I felt.
Kitty McRatSlayer While I see no real benefit they would gain from allowing machines that want to kill them just as much as everyone else to destroy the world, I see your point.
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Exactly!!! I remember seing that movie as a child and that particular scene carved me. I still recall the feelings it caused back then. That's what makes a great movie. Hollywood with "Salvation" just sterilized it...
Why isn't this a full movie, just make the damn future war movie. STOP WITH THE TIME TRAVEL.
+USAgent88 Even if there was a whole future war movie the ending would still be kyle reese going back to 1984 as the ending of the movie.
And that's how it should end.
But shouldn't be a full time travel movie, hell, the first movie wasn't really a time travel movie. It had time travel bits but it was more of a slasher film. Time Travel was just the vehicle to get the unstoppable future machine to present day. (1984)
+USAgent88 there are 2 timelines. 1 where they stop judgement day in t2. 2 is the timeline where kyle reese came from and where the war happens. we live in timeline 1 where timeline 2 can attack our future
just want to see Arnold and T-1000 get sent back.
Exactly. This as stand alone would be awe inspiring.
It really should have been 3 movies. The first terminator, Judgement day, and the a movie about the future war where we see Reese sent back in time as well as the other T800 sent back. That's all we really needed and it would have been great.
If James Cameron was on board for that third film, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
I love how Kyle is still kind to the children even though his life is hell
Well, considering humanity is on the verge of extinction, it's likely every child matters.
And he grew up as a gutter rat like they are, so he's been in their position.
I love how this actually makes it feel like humanity's on the brink of extinction, unlike Salvation.
Salvation was set 11 YEARS before this. So no shit.
@Comfortably Dumb Because it is a GRADUAL process to get to where we are in T1 and T2. You clearly have no idea of the concept of PROGRESSION, so you are the real dumbass. They had already experienced major losses at that point but it got WORSE over time. The war with the machines lasted over 32 years. Use some thought for once, fool.
@@mercenaryknight5419 stfu hes right. salvation fuckin sucked dick
@@AllThingsKen Sthu, u probably have no idea of what there talking about.
@@west-_-brook8582 im a huge terminator fan... none of those sequels were good fuck off.
Eleven years later, and this edit is still fucking amazing.
It fucks much. So amaze.
Michael biehn played that role so accurately, that it breaks my heart his character dies. Honestly, nothing can beat the first and second terminator films. The series should've ended by then. I agree with all of you, i wanna see a film in these war scenes, learn more about the origins of kyle reese in the eyes of james cameron, and see how the resistance formed. everything sucked after t3
ofcourse they did :(
***** yeah 4 sure, jai was annoying
+Niall Hagan I feel he (Yelchin rip) would've portrayed young Reese perfectly since biehn is still alive
alan Tony Anton Yelchin did really well as a young Kyle Reese.
Well said, Octavian, and it makes me wish Salvation had its sequels, each becoming more like this.
“I’m a fren of Sera Cana I was told she was heuh cuud I see huh plees”
@meaturama whatever accent arnold uses
Stolen ass comment bitch
Torld she was here
Make a film that faithfully features Cameron's vision of the Future War and simply title it 'TERMINATORS'.
+DOOMED ! Brilliant!! Same thing i thought. TERMINATORS. just like there was Aliens and Predators movies.
DOOMED ! Fucking genius. I love the title "Terminators".
Funny how you’re so close now-‘Terminator’ in 2019. Hoping Cameron brings it home in style.
Skynet?
Man, this is the best idea for the new title!))
Terminator: Resistance is everything a Terminator fan wants in a sequel. It’s the Future War but playable and you are the instrument in the downfall of Skynet. It’s the epitome of fan-service.
I bought it not too long ago and just got around to playing it, you're right. I really like how they stuck to the T2 version of the future war. It's a pretty awesome piece of fan service.
So sad that the game had such a small budget. If Poles had a little more money - i cant even imagine what a masterpiece this game should be
They released a dlc for it a few weeks ago as well, they're passionate about the game beyond the potential profits
Yes. Resistance, Future Shock and SkyNET
@@ytgc-royalewarex5190 and Tech-com 2029 apparently, but that's a fan made Terminator game and isn't officially licensed.
Terminator Resistance had a glimpse of this scene. Fan service is real.
The resistance shelter is the same one too, down to the detail like the small pipe they step over, and the big "combustion" pipe overhead.
SPOLIERS: They also hinted in the game that there is a part where the shelter is destroyed. It is heavily hinted but not shown that the Terminator you see in T1 that attacks the shelter is the same one done in the game thus making the game take place in terms of time lines right between T1 to T2 before any time traveling is done.
Much respect to mankind and his indomitable fighting spirit. Theses films have so many messages on so many levels.
Yes we never give up
Well seems the superpowers are desperately running towards this reality. Just because they feel threaten by poor countries. Seems like people nowadays want so much this to become true. Cameron doesnt depict a real fact in the movie and its when the boys are killing that rat. Seems to me that he envisioned cannibalism as well.
We need a terminator movie of just war
Hell yea
it's crazy how in T1, Cameron did all that with only 6 million bucks! he is a legend!
He truly is
He "was" a legend, not anymore after Dark Fate
He didn't direct dark fate
I heard it was a $1. Million budget. Maybe T2 did 6 million budget
@@Spector-yj5hk t1 was 6.4 million and t2 was more than 100 million
8:51 when you do nothing and still you are the best representation of adult john connor
Three great scenes from two great movies.
I can not get enough of that quick little shot of them staring at a tv, only to see theyre just staring at fire
It's a 3D TV the fire looks pretty realistic
@@repaleonhalo9754 Lmao
I think the colour pallette adds so much to each scene. It's all black blue and chrome. Very dark, cold and it helps to build a bleak atmosphere.
Rest in Peace_ Franco Columbu (The Future Terminator). August 7th, 1941 - August 30th, 2019. 2:52 - 3:47
The shot at 3:42 to 3:48 is my favorite if the whole franchise. So dark and scary.. yet so badass
The sound of those future weapons was great! Love it, also I love how T1,T2 and Terminator:Genysis use the blue light whenever they show scenes of the future war, the blue light makes the future bleak (as if there no hope)
Adalfuns Dardon Indeed, Cameron was obssesed with blue tones, just look at Avatar, Titanic, The Abyss, T2 was especially blueish...saludos!
+Pau Nuns True Lies too
They changed all T1 gun sounds for remastered versions, I somehow liked original sounds better.
Kingdom of Heaven (forest scene) all blue lol
Gun shot sounds in the GI JOE cartoons
John connor surveying the battlefield with zero emotion almost seems like a terminator scanning for targets...considering the only "male" role model he had was a T800 and he's spent years fighting a prolonged war in a nightmarish apocalyptic future...well he'd probably be more of a cold ruthless bad ass rather than a heroic symbol of hope.
I don't see this guy giving many uplifting and inspirational speeches...it would have been cool to see an adult version of the character struggling to retain his humanity, after years of having to sacrifice his troops and make difficult almost impossible decisions to ensure the survival of the species...shit like drafts and conscriptions, suicide squads who gets fed and equipped with their limited supplies etc...
I imagine a character who displays zero fear or hesitation with relentless conviction and determination...bolstered by the knowledge that they can and eventually do win the war against the machines...whereas to everyone else it seems hopeless and impossible...so early on when he first appears as a leader his personal actions would appear reckless and damn near suicidal to others...but gradually over time as he defeats the terminators, not only surviving but actually winning the battles time and again the survivors eventually rally behind him...as if it was fate or destiny.
Yesterday I saw T2 again and I thought the same when I see the same scene you are talking about. That could be a great argumental arch for the character.
I hope some day I have the talent enough to write a sequel in the way of a novel or a screenplay that make justice to this saga.
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I will always love my father for taking me to see T2 in theater when it came out. I was in 1st grade. You can only imagine how blown away I was by the opening scene.
Hell yeah!
I'm the same age, but I don't think I got to see it until my family rented it at blockbuster after its theater run
Ha ha nice
I think the scene reaches its climax with the burning telly with its screen being broken. To me it really means "war is no longer being televised, the horror is among us". There is no more screen to shield us from reality. Masterfully executed by Cameron, this is brilliant.
This sequence from T1 showed how Terminators can have more skins than Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yet every single sequel only depicts T-800 as his skin, just to force Arnold into the movie, even though he's 70.
The action is awesome, but 8:34 is awesome to see how loyal John's men are, as well as how determined he is with his 1,000 yard stare.
T1 and T2, the best two sci-fi movies ever made (past, present and, I would say, future)
Predator? Aliens/Aliens? Jurassic Park? Blade Runner? Star Wars IV, V, VI??? Lot of great sci fi movies. Each fits a certain mold, yet all are amazing.
Future? Don't know, yet.
2001 A Space Odyssey
Add Aliens to the list. Also James Cameron! And also one of the best!
Who else is here after seeing the trailer for the 2019 Terminator: Resistance game?
Bro link
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This is all the info I found so far for resistance
Its story is set in post-apocalyptic 2028 Los Angeles and serves as a prequel to James Cameron's Terminator franchise films The Terminator (1984) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991). Players will take on the role of a new character, Jacob Rivers, a soldier in the John Connor-led human resistance against Skynet's robotic killing machines. The game will have multiple possible endings.[1]
A sixth film in the Terminator franchise, Terminator: Dark Fate, is being released shortly prior to the game's release, and the game does not appear to have any relation or connection to the sixth film's timeline or characters.[2] Like Dark Fate, however, the game appears to be ignoring all Terminatorfranchise films after Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
Roger's Place didn’t you just say it’s a prequel how is it after the second movie then
Future Shock and Skynet.
🌟 *I miss these types of old school movies.*
Lol then watch some!!
He really looked like what I pictured John Conner to be.. .. I wished they would have kept using him
Yeah that's the point, they were out to cuck John Connor and Kyle Reese in Genysis partially though script and partially through mis-casting
look for the alternative T2 ending which features this Actor as John
@@maxim196 Michael Edwards is the name of this actor . He served Four years in the navy . He was male model and Priscila Presley boyfriend.
Remember growing up and rewatching the intro of T2 over and over again. Never got old and still doesn't get old. Dat plasma rifle sounds.
Salvation should've been this dystopian future where you can clearly see humanity is not just on the brink, but almost completely outgunned as an underground resistance. It really should've given this David vs. Goliath feel to it. Maybe if they did a sequel to Salvation they could've explored the really dark days of the Resistance.
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Except humanity wasn't outgunned they still had 4 billion people left and pushed skynet back albeit it took a long time they were winning, which is why skynet sent back the t 800 in the first place
Humanity had billions of people and advanced military equipment such as vehicles by the time Salvation took place. This here is the late stage of the war where humanity’s military forces had been reduced to a shell of their former selves.
Fk CGI !!! Old school effects were way better
AMEN!!. Producers should take note on how well Cameron Directed this, best of all, 34 years ago!!!
They don't make NOTHING like they used to, They put much more heart in their films back in the days, now its all about greens, SAD SAD SAAAAD!!
The plasma beams coming out of the rifles is CGI. Come now, stop it. The first 2 Terminator movies could not have been done with out using some CGI. What makes them great is that they used practical effects in combination with CGI to make it more convincing.
Pepeople only see bad cgi (like in star wars) but if the story is good than people wont notice it and if the cgi is done really well you won’t notice at al just searche good cgi on RUclips .
@@pikkon899 SHURE... but today they do 100 per cent of terminator movies with CGI or shitty costumes
@@MaelstromExceptions Cameron used blue/green screen in the original Terminator films as well
Any Terminator movie without James Cameron isn't a true Terminator movie
Flop Flip he's back
James Cameron did said Genesis was great and the true sequel to T2.
An Alien movie after Aliens without Cameron isn’t an Alien movie
Even though he did praise Salvation. LOL
Flop Flip I hate to break it to you...
It always cracks me up how the soldier who got shot goes from groaning in pain and wounded to immediately standing up with a straight face and saluting to John, he just has that influence
they said that the resistance was winning,looking at these...i say otherwise :D
This was probably before they stormed the skynrd base.
Ok
why? it looks like they're doing good 2 soldiers alone destroyed that giant robot tank
The resistance wasn't just winning, they won the war and blew up Skynet. That's why he sent the terminator back in time to 1984. It was Skynet's last attempt to live by rewriting the past.
The Resistance couldn't win a conventional victory in 2029. Which is why when John and Reese smashed Skynet's Defense Grid in an unexpected Surprise Attack. It was merely the Beginning of the end for Skynet as it lost control of nearly 80% of its entire Machine Army (But Skynet itself would feel threatened enough to send 2 Terminators back in time). It would take a few more years until all traces of Skynet were wiped from existence. And even so Humanity would fight among themselves after the wars end over what little resources were left. Or John Connor would lead Humanity through a long brutal recovery using what tech Skynet left behind to rebuild the broken world.
Why isn't there a movie like this? Only Salvation tried and that was shit...
Terminator Salvation was an early start to the war when it barely begun which explains why they didn't use the plasma weapons yet
+Rnld Sweginegur I still don't get hoe skynet manage to build terminators seing that their were no automated factories back in 2003
Nathan Guy They built em after the war.
Frozen storm I understood that, but how did he build an army after the war after destroying all infrastructure when all factories require humans to operate.
Nathan Guy Automated factories don't require humans to operate, and keep in mind that Skynet had every resource in the world at its disposal.
Rest in peace, Franconator. You lived a long and good life.
The 80s video game type music is what makes this awesome imo
This is so classic. Thats why I like the new game Terminator Resistance. It revisits this old theme. Every one should play the game.
This is the Kyle Reese we want!
Watching this makes the new Terminator: Dark Fate trailer even more cringy and unbearable
I agree you.
God... The music is unreal. So, so good. 4:22
Ten minutes long, yet ten thousand times better than Salvation was.
Salvation was shot with the goal of gritty realism, thus didn't look at fantastical as this did, plus the colours were drained and replaced with a blue that isn't cold like Cameron's filming. It also was set in 2018, after T3, so Judgement Day wasn't so far off compared to 1997-2028 like here (thus there was less time to develop plasma tech and all the different units). Simply put, of course Salvation doesn't measure up, as it simply didn't exist in the same timeline (plus had different direction).
Harry Underwood 2029 and soon we will see the real robots
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Capodecamper Google funny man. No joke
@@m42037 It's not a joke, my friend is a research scientist at MIT, working on human-centered AI, autonomous vehicles, deep learning, deep RL, computer vision, and IT. His work alone can be used as the basis for SkyNet TODAY!
Before he retired in 1980 Navy admiral Hyman Rickover, who built the U.S. nuclear Navy, appeared before a U.S. Senate hearing where one of the senators asked him if humanity would ever destroy itself in a nuclear war, to which the admiral answered: "Yes, one day there will be a global thermonuclear war. It is in our genes to destroy ourselves." I wonder, is he right?
Spartaculus Jones Only time will tell friend.
+QltrNan Obviously not. Or else it would have happened.
+Kevin Horstmann Don't be so sure. Stupidity can surprise you
+Spartaculus Jones Only through destruction can light come to be.
+Benito Camelas indeed. Obama could push the wrong button and cause Judgement Day
Came back here after the Terminator Dark Fate trailer the trailer was so meh I needed the nostalgia of this masterpiece
Vik Ferreira Barrios Yeah and I hear they are killing john c off in the first 5 mins of film, carn’t belive it, it makes t1/2 pointless
Yeah, the movie suck
It looks at best like a mediocre movie on same level of terminator salvation. Terminator 3 wasnt that great either but it would be more a guilty pleasure movie if they just made the terminator more like this. Like they literally live more in a hell world in the depiction here. But in the new movies it looks just like an average wasteland. It just is not that believable more or less.
The infiltrated terminator of this sequence: Franco Columbu. R.I.P.
YOU TOOK JOHN CONNOR YOU MONSTERS!
I agree with u i don't understand why dark fate took away our edward ㅠㅠ
You have 3 other films to watch with john as the resistance leader. Watch those, and you won't have to complain about dark fate. Problem solved.
The future war scenes from T1 and T2 always scared me as a kid growing up. It’s the idea of highly superior machines with no feelings (and efficient at killing) that make these scenarios so frightening. It also shows how fragile humans are compared to a fully cybernetic adversary. James Cameron nailed it right on the head with both movies.
They should make a Battlefield type of game out of this classic movie frames
My friend , play Terminator Resistance , feel like this short clip , best game ever and exelent history
Could've had this if the Terminator Salvation sequels weren't scrapped.
Actually they planned to make whole different sequel for Salvation but after movie bombed, they scrapped the idea
this makes Salvation look fucking awful
+Paul Revere not that Salvation needed help to be awful let's be real
+Ian Borton At least Genisys got the gloomy night-time theme and purple lasers right.
+Randy M Guy There weren't lasers in Salvation because Skynet hadn't yet developed them at that point in the timeline.
+Randy M Guy The Plasma rifles in 40 Watt range were not invented yet in the year 2017
Salvation is descent, but Genisys is horrible as far as in the Terminators, they make weird sounds and look very CGI looking, at least in Salvation they used dummies mounted on humans.
The fact they are desperately looking for food and resort to rats means more than likely some have turned to cannibalism makes it more terrifying
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Just love the music and laser guns and the machines dominating and then they show the main man.
So many more lasers than the modern future remakes. I like this.
They didn’t even have to do a whole lot, yet these scenes are incredibly powerful and emotional.
I feel like a lot of movies from back then were like that.
Those machines, crushing everything in their path with those massive treads, chills my bones to this day.....