From the trailer alone, to people saying it’s inaccurate consider this: The events themselves are probably not. However, the portrayal of Sissi’s emotions, how she must’ve felt in each moment, probably the most spot on. It’s not a documentary in the sense of the events and timeline being accurate. This portrayal is an emotional documentary, it’s art. Appreciate it for what it is.
totally agree - I think the empress is just a vehicle to make a movie about the wider experience of being a woman throughout history. There are little nods to modernity (her tattoos, neon lighting, modern doors, I even spotted plastic mopping bucket!) that make me think she isn't just a singular character, rather a timeless one. I could be totally off, though!
I fell in love with Krieps when I first saw her in PHANTOM THREAD, which she should have swept up awards for. Really can't wait to watch this. Definitely renting it tonight for my mom and I to watch. The costumes, cinematography, sets, alone are enough to keep me riveted .
If by any chance you are weird like me and you like watching non-mainstream films about mentally ill women with lesbian tendencies 🥲, then definitely check out Das Zimmermädchen Lynn (Chambermaid Lynn), Vicky Krieps was so good in that one
Germans got 1 last year, 2 this year, 1 next year. That's enough for at least 2 decades I hope. 2021 - Sisi (Series) on RTL 2022 - Corsage (Film) by Marie Kreutzer 2022 - The Empress (Series) on Netflix 2023 - Sisi & I (Film) by Frauke Finsterwalder
@@giovannirastrelli9821 🙏 to this day the musical version is one of the most realistic and at the same time one of the most original depictions of her, fight me
The movie was Perfect, it shows her longing for love and romance that dwindled long time ago, she seeks comfort with other men who would not touch her despite of her beauty, due to her status. The adoration, vanity and as proclaimed as one of the most beautiful Monarch took a toll on her. In the end, she has everything and completely has nothing at all at the same time. How tragically beautiful. 😢❤
what a brilliant movie with inner insight into woman who wanted freedom through death. Absolutely loved music; it was its own character. I want to keep watching Vicky’s character on loop. Best to see it in theather for more immersive experience. It will hypnotize you. ❤
Just got out of seeing this. God it was so much better than I expected I absolutely love Vicky! Loved how real and honest she portrayed Elisabeth and her reaction to everything around her. Also was shot quite beautifully I could've honestly watched it for another 2 hours
A fictional account of one year in the life of Empress Elisabeth of Austria. On Christmas Eve 1877, Elisabeth, once idolized for her beauty, turns 40 and is officially deemed an old woman; she starts trying to maintain her public image.
Well, that's the part that made me never wanting to never watch this movie. I'm sorry I even watched the trailer. I mean, seriously, any movie about any empire should be banned, not awarded!
The Empress in this movie comes across as a hysterical mechanical doll, obsessed with her beauty. But in reality Elisabeth was more than that. "Under thr Spell of a Myth" is a new book I recommend if you want to experience her from a real private side, eg while she travels with her young readers.
Yeah but the issue is that movies that brand themselves as historical but contain a lot of false information end up spreading a lot of misinformation because most people are not going to look into what is real and what is not. The blending of fact and fiction can be dangerous. Also these were real people that lived, to me it is somewhat disrespectful to falsely represent their lives. Edit: the majority of people that watch this movie will tale what is shows at face value.
@@najah7781 I understand your point but honestly, I’m an archaeologist and if I should worry about accuracy, I couldn’t even leave the house anymore. Even if things are accurate someone else will say something else on the internet and they’d rather believe that
@@najah7781 Dear Naja, Marie Kreutzer never pretend her movie is historical. On the contrary. Art is not "reality" or "truth". Who goes to see "Henry V" by Shakespeare searching for historical truth ? No one. Lots of comments here give Marie Kreutzer intentions she never had. It is not her fault.
They were actually very accurate with most of the costumes in this one. When they weren't then to make a statement of sorts but they did a lot of research for this film
Well yes - but these seem accurate for the most part. Period accurate clothing is very expensive and often needs to be made by hand. One the reasons The Favourite had very stylised costumes is because they didn’t have the budget for period accurate.
Elizabeth of Austria was an intelligent and complex woman, but also utterly selfish. She wanted to have all the advantages of her high position, but didn't want to give anything back to people. She just wanted to live isolated and travel all the time with her race horses.
It is written that Elisabeth became physically ill when living under the constraints of the Habsburg household and a domineering mother-in-law, who removed each of her first 3 children from her after they were born, not allowing her to be a mother to them. Doctors recommended that she lived elsewhere to improve her health, and apparently, her health did improve when she was away from the palace. It was common for those who could afford it, to travel to warmer climates to recuperate. In today's terms, it would seem that Sissi may have had what we now know to be an eating disorder, which as we know brings all kinds of health issues with it. She stopped eating after the death of her 2 yr old daughter and became depressed, never to recover, the depression and melancholy was compounded by a string of personal losses that included the murder-suicide of her son and his partner, the suicide of her cousin and her sister burning to death in a fire. Both of Franz's brothers died, young Karl died after drinking infected water and Max was shot by a firing squad, his wife Carlotta lost her mind. There doesn't appear to be anything written to substantiate that Elisabeth was selfish, but she was shy which can sometimes be mistaken for being distant, so I am unsure what information you are using to determine this evaluation. From all accounts, it seems that she was simply doing her best to survive what life had put in front of her. It is documented that she had a kind and altruistic nature, influencing her husband to be merciful. It is also documented that she was one of the most charitable queens, as a young girl she was known for visiting peasants, and as Empress, she took time to care for battle-wounded soldiers, amongst other reports of benevolence. None of what I have read about this person indicates that she was in any way selfish.
It was very angsty and odd, yet I wasn’t sorry to see this fictional interpretation. The lead performer was great, though she doesn’t look much like the real empress. At least she did do a bit of gymnastics, plus fencing and piano, aside from horse riding. There are some clever lines in it, also. The music was unique and unexpected. Rating: Three out of five stars. Added: Favourite clothes were Sisi’s candied violets dress and white portrait dress, as well as Valerie’s macaron-coloured styling.
@@massimilianomencacci2510 We don't agree about "truth" in art and movie (considering the other discussion we had) but on this matter, I totally agree : a lot of people dream about Elisabeth of Austria as "a great lady", a wonderful woman full of love, of sentiments, of high morality, etc, etc… whereas she was a narcissistic, a selfish, a cold-hearted (except for herself) and self-centered woman. Of course she was an unhappy woman, and her death was tragic, but the way she treated her children, her husband, her relatives was far from being loving and caring 🙂 She once depicted in a letter her daughter Gisèle as "a dried out sow" : what a loving mother ! Not mentioning her jealousy towards beautiful women… I think we both agree on that. It is surprising how so many people want to see Elisabeth of Austria as some kind of saint…
She visited Ireland to stay with another keen horse woman, the Countrss of Fingal. Also, there's a plaque in Ventnor on IOW that commemorates her vist to a now defunct castle or estate. She wasn't happy with rigid court etiquette and escaped whenever she could. She NEVER cut her hair. I understand the symbolism of cutting it off, but ....
@@raysomeusc People have to remember that much of the evidence we have for Victorian etiquette comes from women's fashion magazines, and work instructions So a lot of period dramas interpreted it like the women's fashion magazines were an honest and accurate indication of how people behaved. Others see those articles as social commentary and would be very surprised if it was actually the behavior. With regards to what comes out of a work book. Well.... they are manuals for work. It's outlining the way people are expected to act in a professional environment. Not really how people actually were. I find it hard to believe that the famous Victorian Etiquette was anything other than social commentary from the times. Not actually documentation of everyone's behavior. The way it's written makes it sound like it. I feel the 1950s was more strict, and probably a bit nicer, than this era.
If I recall correctly she came to an unfortunate end, attacked by a nationalist artisan as she boarded a ship. With grace and composure, seemingly unharmed and her assailant arrested, she made it to her cabin where, to the horror of her maid, she collapsed and died. Unseen, in the affray, a knife had penetrated her heart - whoops spoiler? Must see this film.
Luigi Lucheni wasn’t a nationalist. He was a common thug “play acting” as an anarchist. He must’ve felt like such a heroic stud for stabbing to death a tiny defenseless woman.
@@giovannirastrelli9821 actually he felt really bad after because he found she actually espoused liberal causes. She wasn't even his first choice. He wanted to kill the Duke of Orleans but his schedule changed.
Grace and composure? 😆 She didn't notice his attack, because they were running to catch a ship and because she was obsessed with her figure, she had her corset so tight she couldn't tell she was stabbed. Plus, she was addicted to cocain. That paints you a picture of grace?
For those of us who are deeply familiar with the history of Sissi, this film is extremely disappointing. I only share the actress's physical resemblance to the historical character. Otherwise, it seems to me a complete lack of respect for her memory.
So is this movie good or not?? I don’t care too much about historical accuracy, more about how interesting this thing is to watch and how good is the cinematography
This movie isn't even trying to show Elisabeth the way she was thinking and perceived as. They could have even used any other fictional character. I warmly recommend the new book "UNDER THE SPELL OF A MYTH: Empress Sisi in Greece", which describes her from a private and more human point of view.
After watching this I read about Empress Elisabeth of Austria, her life was tragic 😢 And the actor who played her husband, Florian Teichtmeister... WTF
Not to dis the actress I just don't think she looks anything like the real like empress. She had the mother in law from hell and her husband was a moma's boy. He loved her but she was 15 and a free spirit and never loved him. Sad life. She was forced to marry him because he was an emporer. Can't turn down one of those.
and Franz Joseph 1st was much much in love with her that we can see in this movie.... He was absolutly not indifferent to her .... He really loved her !
They always try to link her to Andrássy, but they never spent a second alone together. The Habsburg etiquette didn't allow it. And one of the ladies present to their meetings was his own wife.
@@innerlight4601 Empress Sissi story has been immortalized in the Romy Schneider trilogy of films but even those have some historical inaccuracies. I think Corsage is a postmodern film about the life of Sissi. There are the clear inaccuracies but also the Empress Sissi a boards a modern ship. It's clear that it's postmodern. Mixing several genres and building a new perspective in the film.
Inaccurate, dear Kristina, because it is a movie. Not a documentary. Nor a biography. A movie, a work of art has nothing to do with reality or truth. It is not its purpose. And Marie Kreutzer, the director, never said she filmed a "true" story about the Empress of Austria.
@@heliedecastanet1882 Why so condescending? Using the name of a real person and then shooting a story that changes the core of the character of this real person is not an art. That's movie version of a clickbait. Baiting people that are interested in Sissi and then giving them an unrelated story that could be just as well about anyone else. If they want to make up the main character, why not shoot the movie and straight up make her a fictional empress?
The creators of GoT didn't invent it...but it's famously linked to Tywin Lannister now. Which makes it a bad quote for a trailer, imo. Coming from an empress here, it really invites a direct comparison between the characters. And although this trailer does look promising, imo... that's huge footsteps to try to fill.
How far is that from Romy Schneider's depiction of Sissi, huh? (should actually be spelt with a single 's', as stated in historical documents) Where has that post-war princess Charming gone? Half Cinderella, half Sleeping Beauty of the 50s rather turned into an evil witch, didn't she?
The Sissi movies were never known for their historical accuracy. Even Romy Schneider subsequently gave a much darker portrayal of Elisabeth in 1973’s “Ludwig.”
She never cut her hair and I am pretty sure that as a bavarian she did not speak with an german accent, neither did Franz Josef who was Austrian. This movie is another one of „those“ films…
@Gudrun W: Have you seen it yet? Vicky Kreips blazing talent, given a blazing epic movie...finally! I honestly don’t think that many people will be put off by inaccuracies, & young audiences might not have even heard of ‘Sisi’ ...is there another telling of the tale, titled ‘The Empress’ coming soon, maybe online? I’m hoping to enjoy both, as I love Costume Drama...even when I find that I’m just sitting back & ‘viewing’, without feeling really involved... I can still appreciate the artistry of the makers, so I guess that it’s ‘let’s see!’ 🙏🏻💔🙏🏽
vu hier soir sur Arte ... qui me laisse dubitative.. beaucoup d,invraisemblance.. L,imperatrice SISSI n,était pas tout a fait comme on la voit dans ce film .. excentrique ,certes égocentrique oui ,, mais solitaire souvent ...elle aimait son cousin Louis II de Baviére ,comme un frère je n,imagine pas qu,elle ait pû nager nue avec lui dans le lac de Stranberg , en outre je ne crois pas que le chauffage centrale était installé dans les palais impériaux ni que l,empereur Franz portait des pulls a colle roulé . cependant la musique du générique de fin est super
Looks cool! But it looks like they where right lacing Wich even in the time period was know. To be unhealthy. If worn properly (not tight lacing) it’s more supportive and comfy. But other than that looks like a good film. Corsets are not the devil though. It’s a tired trope at this point. Anti corset sentiment I heard came from the patriarchy? Just thought I’d mention. There are people much more knowledgeable than me who talk about this.
How to do active disinformation. Depicturing fake history should not be allowed unless it's clearly declared, becouse most people know nothing about history and end up believing that what they see in dramas is true.
The trailer does not make me want to go see the film in the slightest. I'll pass. I may be missing out, but that's their fault for not making a better trailer.
Very sad movie. The woman screams for help to everyone around her but because it's 1877 and she's an "Empress" the people around her only suffocate her more with formality. Oddly enough - only her husband seems to really understand her.
This is unfortunately not a good movie. Unlikeable lead character. Riddled with anachronisms. Meandering plot with no meaningful arcs, themes, or interactions between the characters. Arrogant. Far exceeds the runtime that it earns. Uninspired writing and filmmaking. The movie wants you to feel sympathy for a mildly-inconvenienced privileged member of royalty who behaves like garbage. Vicky does well with the material that’s there, but its surprisingly light on quantity and quality of dialogue for a character study piece. 4/10.
the movie is very nice, but it's outrageous how the empress is portrayed as some kind of drug addict and takes heroin ... is there any historical information about such a thing ....
Even the trailer shows how wrong that awful woman was, but history paints her a caring person. Trust me: historians like me, living close to Austria, certainly don't. She was all we don't wanna be today. A Champagne pretend socialist of the worst kind.
@@N0N4M30 Truth hurts, I know. I never said that you couldn't love that horrible person, of course you can! Ask her son how she was as a mother. Oh, right, he killed himself.......
For real? You don't like Sissi? Why don't you think she cared? Plus as for her son, she wasn't allowed to raise her children herself and was separated from them. Not even her husband stopped the situation, and she was still young when they got taken from her, so I don't think she was a bad mother. She just wasn't allowed to be there for her children as much as she wanted. It affected her and them; that's what I read. I think you should be angry at the mother-in-law, not Sissi.
@@greatminds1017 See, you believe in the movies. Over time, the empress became so self-centered, that she slapped her maids when they combed her and a single hair was lost. No one of her status was allowed to raise their children 24/7, but she was rather cold to the first two. Her mother in law wasn't that beast she described. We know that from letters. She loved to torture her older ladies in waiting by running so fast, that the older women couldn't keep up and sometimes collapsed. Her beauty cult was expensive, she refused to do the one job she was supposed to, ran away to fancy holidays whenever she felt like it (faking illness) and tried to come off as a republican while being entitled as fuck. Rudolph cried at christmas day 1888 and wanted to talk to her, but she refused and told him to man up. He shot himself a month later. And she was a horrible in-law to Stephanie of Belgium, bc she hated every woman that was younger than her. No human is entirely good or bad, but Sisi wasn't the romantic royal rebel, she was a deeply flawed woman who loved her status, but refused all duties that came with it. She wrote rather dull poems about freedom and now everybody thinks she was a prisoner, yet she was not. Romy Schneider played Sis one more time in the seventies for the movie about Louis II. of Bavaria with Helmut Berger and her depiction of a cynical vain woman, gossipping and laughing about others is far more accurate this time. You can find the clips here on RUclips.
Ich sah den Film auf arte. Nicht nur unklar langweilig, zudem auch unklare undeutliche geflüsterte Dialoge . Leider nicht Sehens ( Hörens-) wert !!!!!!
I'm over these priveleged, under-whelming depictions of high society. Woe is me white woman struggles flaunting tight corsets and flamboyant extravagance. Who cares!
From the trailer alone, to people saying it’s inaccurate consider this:
The events themselves are probably not.
However, the portrayal of Sissi’s emotions, how she must’ve felt in each moment, probably the most spot on.
It’s not a documentary in the sense of the events and timeline being accurate.
This portrayal is an emotional documentary, it’s art. Appreciate it for what it is.
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totally agree - I think the empress is just a vehicle to make a movie about the wider experience of being a woman throughout history. There are little nods to modernity (her tattoos, neon lighting, modern doors, I even spotted plastic mopping bucket!) that make me think she isn't just a singular character, rather a timeless one. I could be totally off, though!
She is one of the best actresses ever
Alma)) she's simpatic
I fell in love with Krieps when I first saw her in PHANTOM THREAD, which she should have swept up awards for. Really can't wait to watch this. Definitely renting it tonight for my mom and I to watch. The costumes, cinematography, sets, alone are enough to keep me riveted
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Where you watched IT ?
Omg, me too! I loved her in Phantom Thread. Such a classy movie.
She is also wonderful in Bergman Island by Mia Hansen-Love, a very good film
If by any chance you are weird like me and you like watching non-mainstream films about mentally ill women with lesbian tendencies 🥲, then definitely check out Das Zimmermädchen Lynn (Chambermaid Lynn), Vicky Krieps was so good in that one
love that we get 2 sisi adaptations in one year 😍
Germans got 1 last year, 2 this year, 1 next year. That's enough for at least 2 decades I hope.
2021 - Sisi (Series) on RTL
2022 - Corsage (Film) by Marie Kreutzer
2022 - The Empress (Series) on Netflix
2023 - Sisi & I (Film) by Frauke Finsterwalder
@@pb.j.1753 Don’t forget a concert revival of Elisabeth the Musical that aired on television in Austria this past summer.
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@@giovannirastrelli9821 🙏 to this day the musical version is one of the most realistic and at the same time one of the most original depictions of her, fight me
@@marinameilenstein Well except for the whole physical manifestation of death thing…
Don't eat anything Vicky Krieps gives you.
Mushroom Omelette, anyone?
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@@Cristobels-Green-Boots Yes please! 😂🍄
@@ShinyWay1990 🙏🏻🌹🙏🏽
But she will "take care" of you afterwards tho 😏
@@melonthetrue6160:
She’s really an Angel - of Death!
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The movie was Perfect, it shows her longing for love and romance that dwindled long time ago, she seeks comfort with other men who would not touch her despite of her beauty, due to her status. The adoration, vanity and as proclaimed as one of the most beautiful Monarch took a toll on her. In the end, she has everything and completely has nothing at all at the same time. How tragically beautiful. 😢❤
The trailer doesn't show it but this movie is also hilarious. Amazing film.
what a brilliant movie with inner insight into woman who wanted freedom through death. Absolutely loved music; it was its own character. I want to keep watching Vicky’s character on loop. Best to see it in theather for more immersive experience. It will hypnotize you. ❤
Just got out of seeing this. God it was so much better than I expected I absolutely love Vicky! Loved how real and honest she portrayed Elisabeth and her reaction to everything around her. Also was shot quite beautifully I could've honestly watched it for another 2 hours
Same here!!
Comme actrice il n y a pas plus moche 😂
She's sympathic
A fictional account of one year in the life of Empress Elisabeth of Austria. On Christmas Eve 1877, Elisabeth, once idolized for her beauty, turns 40 and is officially deemed an old woman; she starts trying to maintain her public image.
Malheureusement un laideron la représente dans ce film 😂🤣
Amazing🇭🇺👏🏼❤️ loved the parts where she spoke in hungarian
Well, that's the part that made me never wanting to never watch this movie. I'm sorry I even watched the trailer. I mean, seriously, any movie about any empire should be banned, not awarded!
Igen, ez tökeletes...ö beszėlt magyaru! Micsoda szerelem, megtanúlni magyaru...hat❤️🥂🍾
@@silviuc.5551 ??????
Okay.. so is anyone going to address the elephant in the room..... so when exactly was Empress Elisabeth educated by Tywin Lannister??
I have only one thing to say.
COLIN MORGAN!!
Okay, but he doesn't even look like he's in it much.
@@organboi Don't underestimate the draw of Colin Morgan.
Colin Morgan is in it - it will be good. I have yet to find a project he was in that wasn't highly engaging in some way. Looks fantastic.
Side note...did he get more handsome?
@@cyde1345 I mean, I wouldn't have thought it was necessarily possible, but evidence abounds.
Agree! I am completely obsessed with Colin Morgan. His acting abilities are incredible. Everything he has been in I have enjoyed tremendously as well.
@@easjer lol, agree completely. The man gets more and more gorgeous as he ages.
I had to freeze the video and do a double take haha. Love Colin since Merlin!
The Empress in this movie comes across as a hysterical mechanical doll, obsessed with her beauty. But in reality Elisabeth was more than that. "Under thr Spell of a Myth" is a new book I recommend if you want to experience her from a real private side, eg while she travels with her young readers.
??? I have watched this film twice. She is not the one obsessed with her beauty.
ah thank you for recommending ‘Under the Spell of a Myth’! I’ve just finished a bio of Sissi by Brigitte Hamann. a great book in my opinion :)
@@rlbs welcome! Hamann did well, but her research wasn't complete. Under the Spell of a Myth offers new interesting details.
Sissi est rerésentée par un laideron dans ce film 👎🏻👎🏻
@@citoyenne1320She is 40 here so......
I just saw this film and it was Marvelous!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️
Somebody’s finally made a movie about Empress Sissi.
finally? There are others out there
There are literally hundreds of plays, musicals, movies, cartoons, and tv series about her.
@@giovannirastrelli9821 but they aren’t accurate.
@@carlenslaguerre Neither is this film.
I thought I recognized Colin Morgan. He was great in Merlin and I just saw him in Belfast. :)
I see so many people complaining about historical accuracy. It’s a movie not a documentary. And it looks fantastic!
Yeah but the issue is that movies that brand themselves as historical but contain a lot of false information end up spreading a lot of misinformation because most people are not going to look into what is real and what is not. The blending of fact and fiction can be dangerous. Also these were real people that lived, to me it is somewhat disrespectful to falsely represent their lives. Edit: the majority of people that watch this movie will tale what is shows at face value.
@@najah7781 I understand your point but honestly, I’m an archaeologist and if I should worry about accuracy, I couldn’t even leave the house anymore. Even if things are accurate someone else will say something else on the internet and they’d rather believe that
@@diekje8728 your job is cool! Be happy that your subjects have been deceased for so long haha.
@@najah7781 Dear Naja, Marie Kreutzer never pretend her movie is historical. On the contrary. Art is not "reality" or "truth". Who goes to see "Henry V" by Shakespeare searching for historical truth ? No one. Lots of comments here give Marie Kreutzer intentions she never had. It is not her fault.
A film that claims to tell the story of a historical figure MUST be based on the story, not on the director's personal whims.
What do directors have against period accurate costumes?! Is it cheaper?
They were actually very accurate with most of the costumes in this one. When they weren't then to make a statement of sorts but they did a lot of research for this film
Well yes - but these seem accurate for the most part. Period accurate clothing is very expensive and often needs to be made by hand. One the reasons The Favourite had very stylised costumes is because they didn’t have the budget for period accurate.
@@yasminhexe A lot of research?
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Dear Ronkyort0dox, what is not accurate for you ?
Who gives a damn? It’s a movie not a documentary..
Of course there had to be a lace-me-tighter- scene. I like that they show bust pads though, very accurate.
Well yeah since sissi was obsessed with having a tight waist
She was a bad corset wearer though..so accare to her
Vicky or Sissi?
But it is more than likely in real life she had an eating disorder or body image issues. At least it makes sense for her character.
what's the song in the trailer?
Elizabeth of Austria was an intelligent and complex woman, but also utterly selfish. She wanted to have all the advantages of her high position, but didn't want to give anything back to people. She just wanted to live isolated and travel all the time with her race horses.
It is written that Elisabeth became physically ill when living under the constraints of the Habsburg household and a domineering mother-in-law, who removed each of her first 3 children from her after they were born, not allowing her to be a mother to them. Doctors recommended that she lived elsewhere to improve her health, and apparently, her health did improve when she was away from the palace. It was common for those who could afford it, to travel to warmer climates to recuperate.
In today's terms, it would seem that Sissi may have had what we now know to be an eating disorder, which as we know brings all kinds of health issues with it. She stopped eating after the death of her 2 yr old daughter and became depressed, never to recover, the depression and melancholy was compounded by a string of personal losses that included the murder-suicide of her son and his partner, the suicide of her cousin and her sister burning to death in a fire. Both of Franz's brothers died, young Karl died after drinking infected water and Max was shot by a firing squad, his wife Carlotta lost her mind.
There doesn't appear to be anything written to substantiate that Elisabeth was selfish, but she was shy which can sometimes be mistaken for being distant, so I am unsure what information you are using to determine this evaluation.
From all accounts, it seems that she was simply doing her best to survive what life had put in front of her. It is documented that she had a kind and altruistic nature, influencing her husband to be merciful. It is also documented that she was one of the most charitable queens, as a young girl she was known for visiting peasants, and as Empress, she took time to care for battle-wounded soldiers, amongst other reports of benevolence. None of what I have read about this person indicates that she was in any way selfish.
@@jflo2023
Bravo, well said...
I love when people who make ignorant comments get schooled 💕🫶
Sounds just like most bourgeois westerners I know.
She was like the i wanna travel to australia to find myself women nowaday
And I would say that she has a fantastic taste 😈😈
Obsessed with this film. Extraordinary from acting to cinematography. It’s not meant to be accurate. Such a work of art
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It was very angsty and odd, yet I wasn’t sorry to see this fictional interpretation. The lead performer was great, though she doesn’t look much like the real empress. At least she did do a bit of gymnastics, plus fencing and piano, aside from horse riding. There are some clever lines in it, also. The music was unique and unexpected. Rating: Three out of five stars.
Added: Favourite clothes were Sisi’s candied violets dress and white portrait dress, as well as Valerie’s macaron-coloured styling.
Finally!! This seems to be the most accurate depiction of sisi thus far. Hope they do her story justice
It’s not especially accurate, they even changed how she died.
@@giovannirastrelli9821 Oh wow... I had such hope this would be amazing, but now?
Based on the trailer, it is wildly inaccurate sadly.
Please recognize that this is fiction. Forget accuracy and enjoy the ride.
@@pb.j.1753 If its fiction they can use fictional characters.
A most interesting lady and very sad what happened to her. She preferred to be in the company of average people and not the aristocracy.
Nonsense.
Elizabeth, if you read the historical documents of the time, despised aristocrats and commoners at the same time.
@@massimilianomencacci2510 We don't agree about "truth" in art and movie (considering the other discussion we had) but on this matter, I totally agree : a lot of people dream about Elisabeth of Austria as "a great lady", a wonderful woman full of love, of sentiments, of high morality, etc, etc… whereas she was a narcissistic, a selfish, a cold-hearted (except for herself) and self-centered woman. Of course she was an unhappy woman, and her death was tragic, but the way she treated her children, her husband, her relatives was far from being loving and caring 🙂 She once depicted in a letter her daughter Gisèle as "a dried out sow" : what a loving mother ! Not mentioning her jealousy towards beautiful women… I think we both agree on that. It is surprising how so many people want to see Elisabeth of Austria as some kind of saint…
Been waiting for an unhinged Sissi movie.
She visited Ireland to stay with another keen horse woman, the Countrss of Fingal. Also, there's a plaque in Ventnor on IOW that commemorates her vist to a now defunct castle or estate. She wasn't happy with rigid court etiquette and escaped whenever she could. She NEVER cut her hair. I understand the symbolism of cutting it off, but ....
Vicky is the new Meryl!
Bin ich froh, dass dieser unmögliche Film nicht für einen Oscar nominiert worden ist!
Es gibt wichtigere Dinge als ego-Prinzesschen wie die Kreuzer.
Heuchlerin
Did she just quoted Twyin Lannister?
Finally! Well done!
Dear me, what is it with these underwater tub scenes in all movies? Don't they know any other way to express distress?
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Dove si può vedere?????grazie
How can watch free online when it comes
What are the songs in this trailer!
Camille- she was
DANKE, dass dieser Film KEINE Oscar-Nominierung erhalten hat 🙏
Where can I watch this movie?Seems very interesting.
It hasn’t gone into wide release yet.
There are a lot of TV series & movies about sisi in the last 2 years. What's up with that?
She's from Phantom thread!!
Yes, love her on that film!
Vicky is the new Isabelle Huppert
People flipped people the bird back then? I don't think so. Seems like a red flag right there.
Apparently, that gesture has been around since Roman times
@@raysomeusc People have to remember that much of the evidence we have for Victorian etiquette comes from women's fashion magazines, and work instructions
So a lot of period dramas interpreted it like the women's fashion magazines were an honest and accurate indication of how people behaved.
Others see those articles as social commentary and would be very surprised if it was actually the behavior.
With regards to what comes out of a work book. Well.... they are manuals for work. It's outlining the way people are expected to act in a professional environment. Not really how people actually were.
I find it hard to believe that the famous Victorian Etiquette was anything other than social commentary from the times. Not actually documentation of everyone's behavior. The way it's written makes it sound like it. I feel the 1950s was more strict, and probably a bit nicer, than this era.
the choir 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What choir?
@@organboi Vienna boys choir at the beginning singing the anthem
If I recall correctly she came to an unfortunate end, attacked by a nationalist artisan as she boarded a ship. With grace and composure, seemingly unharmed and her assailant arrested, she made it to her cabin where, to the horror of her maid, she collapsed and died. Unseen, in the affray, a knife had penetrated her heart - whoops spoiler? Must see this film.
Luigi Lucheni wasn’t a nationalist. He was a common thug “play acting” as an anarchist. He must’ve felt like such a heroic stud for stabbing to death a tiny defenseless woman.
@@giovannirastrelli9821 actually he felt really bad after because he found she actually espoused liberal causes. She wasn't even his first choice. He wanted to kill the Duke of Orleans but his schedule changed.
@@MadameChristie That’s not true at all. He was proud of it and thought it made him a hero for the anarchist cause.
Grace and composure? 😆 She didn't notice his attack, because they were running to catch a ship and because she was obsessed with her figure, she had her corset so tight she couldn't tell she was stabbed. Plus, she was addicted to cocain. That paints you a picture of grace?
@@tsevca Cocaine was considered a mild sedative and pain reliever at the time.
Vicki Krieps is a wonderful actress! But they should explain that this is not a Historical film, but rather a Historical Fiction
What is this impressive version of the song : camille-she was? Ochestral one
For those of us who are deeply familiar with the history of Sissi, this film is extremely disappointing. I only share the actress's physical resemblance to the historical character. Otherwise, it seems to me a complete lack of respect for her memory.
Art has nothing to do with respect.
So is this movie good or not?? I don’t care too much about historical accuracy, more about how interesting this thing is to watch and how good is the cinematography
its amazing
A spirited woman in a time where independent women were ostracized. She refused to be suffocated by plodding, unimaginative people who had no vision.
Did Sissi quote Tiwyn Lannister?
This was so good!
Excellent.
Very intriguing
This movie isn't even trying to show Elisabeth the way she was thinking and perceived as. They could have even used any other fictional character. I warmly recommend the new book "UNDER THE SPELL OF A MYTH: Empress Sisi in Greece", which describes her from a private and more human point of view.
Labai geras filmas‼️♥️
Liked her in The Survivor. This looks like a good showcase.
After watching this I read about Empress Elisabeth of Austria, her life was tragic 😢
And the actor who played her husband, Florian Teichtmeister... WTF
Not to dis the actress I just don't think she looks anything like the real like empress. She had the mother in law from hell and her husband was a moma's boy. He loved her but she was 15 and a free spirit and never loved him. Sad life. She was forced to marry him because he was an emporer. Can't turn down one of those.
A TV series and a film?
Two films, two tv series, and a televised concert production of the musical.
I am there!
Can confirm I was the horse
She never cut her hair, she never had extramarital affairs.
She could barely stand having sex with her husband. Elisabeth was frigid and despised sexual intimacy.
yup but edgy is en vogue over historicity these days
@@iv4135 Is that a word?
and Franz Joseph 1st was much much in love with her that we can see in this movie.... He was absolutly not indifferent to her .... He really loved her !
Was she in love with him... This is another story !!! She considered her wedding night as a rape and further she was better it was for her....
Historically inaccurate. Sissi never had any extramarital affairs as she couldn't stomach s**ual relationship on it's own (mainly bc of her sister)
They always try to link her to Andrássy, but they never spent a second alone together. The Habsburg etiquette didn't allow it. And one of the ladies present to their meetings was his own wife.
Unfortunately no marital affair means no sale in box office....
@@innerlight4601 Empress Sissi story has been immortalized in the Romy Schneider trilogy of films but even those have some historical inaccuracies. I think Corsage is a postmodern film about the life of Sissi. There are the clear inaccuracies but also the Empress Sissi a boards a modern ship. It's clear that it's postmodern. Mixing several genres and building a new perspective in the film.
Inaccurate, dear Kristina, because it is a movie. Not a documentary. Nor a biography. A movie, a work of art has nothing to do with reality or truth. It is not its purpose. And Marie Kreutzer, the director, never said she filmed a "true" story about the Empress of Austria.
@@heliedecastanet1882 Why so condescending? Using the name of a real person and then shooting a story that changes the core of the character of this real person is not an art. That's movie version of a clickbait. Baiting people that are interested in Sissi and then giving them an unrelated story that could be just as well about anyone else. If they want to make up the main character, why not shoot the movie and straight up make her a fictional empress?
Isnt that saying from Game of Thrones or did Game of Thrones got it from a famous saying? Looks visually stunning.
It’s a famous proverb.😊
The creators of GoT didn't invent it...but it's famously linked to Tywin Lannister now. Which makes it a bad quote for a trailer, imo. Coming from an empress here, it really invites a direct comparison between the characters.
And although this trailer does look promising, imo... that's huge footsteps to try to fill.
Bom dia
How far is that from Romy Schneider's depiction of Sissi, huh? (should actually be spelt with a single 's', as stated in historical documents) Where has that post-war princess Charming gone? Half Cinderella, half Sleeping Beauty of the 50s rather turned into an evil witch, didn't she?
The Sissi movies were never known for their historical accuracy. Even Romy Schneider subsequently gave a much darker portrayal of Elisabeth in 1973’s “Ludwig.”
How is that relevant huh?
Romy Schneiders portrayal is so overrated I can't.
She never cut her hair and I am pretty sure that as a bavarian she did not speak with an german accent, neither did Franz Josef who was Austrian. This movie is another one of „those“ films…
@Gudrun W: Have you seen it yet?
Vicky Kreips blazing talent, given a blazing epic movie...finally!
I honestly don’t think that many people will be put off by inaccuracies, & young audiences might not have even heard of ‘Sisi’
...is there another telling of the tale, titled ‘The Empress’ coming soon,
maybe online?
I’m hoping to enjoy both, as I love Costume Drama...even when I find that I’m just sitting back & ‘viewing’, without feeling really involved... I can still appreciate the artistry of the makers, so I guess that it’s ‘let’s see!’
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Who's she again? I forgot my Tea History Lessons With Lindsay
The Wikipedia article of this movie is a journey
Grand.
They should cut out Teichtmeister
Is she the new Meryl ?
vu hier soir sur Arte ... qui me laisse dubitative.. beaucoup d,invraisemblance.. L,imperatrice SISSI n,était pas tout a fait comme on la voit dans ce film .. excentrique ,certes égocentrique oui ,, mais solitaire souvent ...elle aimait son cousin Louis II de Baviére ,comme un frère je n,imagine pas qu,elle ait pû nager nue avec lui dans le lac de Stranberg , en outre je ne crois pas que le chauffage centrale était installé dans les palais impériaux ni que l,empereur Franz portait des pulls a colle roulé . cependant la musique du générique de fin est super
Movies like this make you love Adam Sandler. (Dot)
Oh this looks like a good one. Not a fan of the Romy Schneider version. Fantastic
VICKY KRIEPS!
UM, EXCUSE ME . . . WHY ISN'T THE ENTIRE CAST BLACK?
This was the worst movie ever I have seen about the Empress Elisabeth. Having the POC Teichtmeister in it didn’t help any either!!!
People, you have to read the biography about Sisi written by the great Brigitte Hamann: you will understand the Beauty and Poetry of this film 😘
A lot of films about Sissi lately
Looks cool! But it looks like they where right lacing Wich even in the time period was know. To be unhealthy. If worn properly (not tight lacing) it’s more supportive and comfy. But other than that looks like a good film. Corsets are not the devil though. It’s a tired trope at this point. Anti corset sentiment I heard came from the patriarchy? Just thought I’d mention. There are people much more knowledgeable than me who talk about this.
How to do active disinformation. Depicturing fake history should not be allowed unless it's clearly declared, becouse most people know nothing about history and end up believing that what they see in dramas is true.
The film never claimed to he a documentary. The filmmakers are not responsible for dumb people who believe everything they see.
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a truly brilliant movie ... must see. Forget all the Hollywood crap ... Vicky Krieps is simply fantastic. But btw. the Heroin is historically wrong
Breaking news: The actor starring Franz Joseph is facing two years in prison...
Social engineering for Dystopian Ideal of World Economic Forum.
The trailer does not make me want to go see the film in the slightest. I'll pass. I may be missing out, but that's their fault for not making a better trailer.
Very sad movie. The woman screams for help to everyone around her but because it's 1877 and she's an "Empress" the people around her only suffocate her more with formality. Oddly enough - only her husband seems to really understand her.
Kostimi su katastrofa.
This is Sissi...
Tywyn Lannister
This is unfortunately not a good movie. Unlikeable lead character. Riddled with anachronisms. Meandering plot with no meaningful arcs, themes, or interactions between the characters. Arrogant. Far exceeds the runtime that it earns. Uninspired writing and filmmaking. The movie wants you to feel sympathy for a mildly-inconvenienced privileged member of royalty who behaves like garbage. Vicky does well with the material that’s there, but its surprisingly light on quantity and quality of dialogue for a character study piece. 4/10.
the movie is very nice, but it's outrageous how the empress is portrayed as some kind of drug addict and takes heroin ... is there any historical information about such a thing ....
I have seen this movie yesterday. And I want my money and time back. Totally unproductive to have been there
Even the trailer shows how wrong that awful woman was, but history paints her a caring person. Trust me: historians like me, living close to Austria, certainly don't. She was all we don't wanna be today. A Champagne pretend socialist of the worst kind.
The trailer is a disgrace just like your comment we adore our empress 🇦🇹
@@N0N4M30 Truth hurts, I know. I never said that you couldn't love that horrible person, of course you can! Ask her son how she was as a mother. Oh, right, he killed himself.......
Applause.
For real? You don't like Sissi? Why don't you think she cared? Plus as for her son, she wasn't allowed to raise her children herself and was separated from them. Not even her husband stopped the situation, and she was still young when they got taken from her, so I don't think she was a bad mother. She just wasn't allowed to be there for her children as much as she wanted. It affected her and them; that's what I read. I think you should be angry at the mother-in-law, not Sissi.
@@greatminds1017 See, you believe in the movies.
Over time, the empress became so self-centered, that she slapped her maids when they combed her and a single hair was lost.
No one of her status was allowed to raise their children 24/7, but she was rather cold to the first two.
Her mother in law wasn't that beast she described. We know that from letters.
She loved to torture her older ladies in waiting by running so fast, that the older women couldn't keep up and sometimes collapsed. Her beauty cult was expensive, she refused to do the one job she was supposed to, ran away to fancy holidays whenever she felt like it (faking illness) and tried to come off as a republican while being entitled as fuck.
Rudolph cried at christmas day 1888 and wanted to talk to her, but she refused and told him to man up. He shot himself a month later. And she was a horrible in-law to Stephanie of Belgium, bc she hated every woman that was younger than her.
No human is entirely good or bad, but Sisi wasn't the romantic royal rebel, she was a deeply flawed woman who loved her status, but refused all duties that came with it.
She wrote rather dull poems about freedom and now everybody thinks she was a prisoner, yet she was not.
Romy Schneider played Sis one more time in the seventies for the movie about Louis II. of Bavaria with Helmut Berger and her depiction of a cynical vain woman, gossipping and laughing about others is far more accurate this time. You can find the clips here on RUclips.
Looks classy delicious.
Ich sah den Film auf arte. Nicht nur unklar langweilig, zudem auch unklare undeutliche geflüsterte Dialoge . Leider nicht Sehens ( Hörens-) wert !!!!!!
In German
The film is on one site interesting, at the other a bit boring...🌿🍂
I'm over these priveleged, under-whelming depictions of high society. Woe is me white woman struggles flaunting tight corsets and flamboyant extravagance. Who cares!
Its more nuanced than that