I actually did this after seeing your recent John Mayall video. I played 6 songs of his on my radio show last Wednesday. "Someday ..." was one of them. Something clicked and I thought, "Why not do that one?" So thank you for the inspiration brother!
I wouldn't say underrated. At least not in Europe. I was totally blown away by his seemingly endless sustain on The Supernatural when the Mayall album was first released. I followed him through his period of early Fleetwood Mac. And even bought some of his jam based early seventies albums. If you want an underrated guitarist check out Peter Greens running mate in Fleetwood Mac: Danny Kirwan. He played the other guitar on Albatross and his parts are often mistaken for being mr Greens. They were like two pieces of a puzzle. Complementing each other perfectly. ✌✌
Underrated is a trigger word, purposely used. Having said that, you'd be surprised how many people I run into who say, "Peter Who?" and then don't think his play is anything. He certainly wasn't a "fiery" or instantly-impressive player. But then, that's not what he was about.
I don't care about "best guitarist" lists. In my personal list of *favourite* guitarists to listen to, Peter Green is way up there. He played the blues so sweetly. A sublime combination of, as you mentioned, tone, phrasing, dynamics, choice of notes/scales, and more. He had it all. A little of the magic was in the accidentally out of phase pickup on his LP. Most of the magic came from his soul. Essential listening: Need Your Love So Bad, Jumping At Shadows, Fool No More, I've Got A Good mind To Give Up Living, and of course, Black Magic Woman (sooo much more raw and heartfelt than Santana's slick and smooth cover version). The Supernatural, an instrumental, echoes the feel of Black Magic Woman, in an eerie slow manner. Not to forget Albatross, another instrumental, where PG lays down a gorgeous framework for Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer to solo over. (In case you hadn't guessed, I've been a rabid PG fan since about '69.)
Thanks for your insightful comment. I don't care about "best guitarist" lists either (but I know some people do), so I use words like "perhaps" (which many people ignore) and move on. PG should be better known and the guitar world would benefit from more guitarists listening to him. I do happen to be a fan of Eric (and Coco and Walter and Jesse Ed ...), but I'm saddened when I hear guitarist say, "Peter Who?". BTW, that was me for a long time. Then I bought "A Hard Road" ... then BMW, "Oh Well", "Jumping at Shadows", "A Man of the World", NYLSB, etc. He grows on you. Something so compelling in his echo-ey, nasal guitar tone and the way he plays. It's very haunting. That out-of-phase pickup may have been accidental, but the way he learned to use it wasn't. One of a kind. Makes my eyes tear up just thinking about it.
One of the most soulful guitarists ever. His soul was connected to his playing. Him and Slowhand were the best guitarists the great John Mayall ever had.
Hi Mark, Thanks for the nice reflection on Peter Green. And thank you for all the free gifts you continue to give us, like the triad chart in today's video. It's been saved for future use like some others of yours. You see, I haven't been able to pick up a guitar for almost a year now. Trigger fingers on both hands needed to be surgically repaired. When my stitches come out of my left hand next week, the docs will set me up to do Carpal Tunnel surgery on my right hand. After all of that I may need further surgery on my right hand to repair some tendons. Heaven knows how long it will be till I'm back in the playing mode. I just want to pass on to folks: Never take your playing time for granted. You never know what may happen to take that time away. It could be a job, an injury, an illness, or the Lord forbid; an accident. Keep at it and share your talents with others at every opportunity. Much Peace!
Thanks for the excellent lesson, Mark! I've just begun seeking and finding triads all over to use in rhythm playing and now this connects it to lead playing. Couldn't have been better timing to find this lesson!
I mentioned how you made me think of the Peter Green era of Fleetwood Mac in a recent video and you came right back with this song - "Someday After a While". And here we are today. I'm going to enjoy this.
Just embarked on your Visualize the fretboard lessons. Really opened door to understanding. I can get what you are laying out here PG is a hero of mine. Thanks for this lesson and hopefully more to come ...
As you said John Mayall and the bluesbreakers was a real nurseryscholl for guitar players in the sixties, Peter Green had a very gentle and beautiful way of playing. I remember the instrumental Albatross, don't know if you can call that blues but it was a great piece of music. Thank's for your lessons.
@@MarkZabel - You're correct. As far as I remember Gary had an injury on tour in the 2000s which meant he couldn't complete a tour. Unfortunately his contract stipulated that he must cover the expenses for the tour cancellation and as a result he had to sell off some of his gear to meet the debt. Peter's guitar was among the collection he sold because of the high value attached to it. Terrible situation for the man.
PG is hands down one the best guitar players ever. Fleetwood Mac and BMW! Insane. His playing opens you up to a whole new style of music! That sweet blues sound. It was actually through your YT channel I found PG!
Fleetwood Mac's Live In Boston 1970 shows where Peter was heading musically, until he went to Munich. Having started out on Bass Peter obviously learnt the importance of the Rhythm section, his playing fits the music as he was responding to what he was playing along with, musically not mathematically. Good video
Thanks. Yes, that fateful Munich incident. Such a loss for everyone. Seeing Peter interviewed later on in his life can be so painful to watch ... painful and tear-jerking.
What about Albatross! I wax about four years old when I heard this, and it has always stayed with me. Beautiful etherial sound! The only shame is there are five guitars playing on it, but only three guitarists in the band.😊
His dynamics, touch and timing were peerless. The coda to Jumping at Shadows on Live in Boston part 1 encapsulates it all. The suspension before the final note and then when it resolves its emotional timbre. Interestingly there’s another version on part 3 to compare to which shows that none of his phrasing and note selection is by rote but the feel at the moment as he rides the tone and volume controls. Of course Eric was there first and his blistering Stormy Monday solo with Mayall live at the Flamingo is perhaps the acme of British blues soloing in the 60s and Mick’s progressive work on Mayall’s Bare Wires album and on from that I love but for me neither of them expressed the high wire emotionality of Peter.
You'd be surprised how many people I run into who say, "Peter Who?" and then don't think his play is anything at all. In Europe it may be a different story among people 60+. I hear a lot of people who say "Rory who?" as well.
Just to offer a bit of constructive criticism, try asking the edge of your picking hand if you deep dive into P/G,s playing it came from the gut morphing into a light touch , no offence ok
That means he's underrated, no? Clapton became one of the biggest names in music over here. The most common answer I get to, "What do you think about Peter Green" is "Peter who?"
Utmost respectfully... If you think Peter Green was mayhall's greatest guitarist you are f****** high!!!! Clapton Beano era. .. PERIOD. MICK TAYLOR! End all the guitarists of that are improvised. Other than initial arrangements Cream never rehearsed!
C'mon. Listen again. I used the word "perhaps." I could argue for either Eric or Peter as far as Mayall's guitarists go. Heck, Coco Montoya and even Jesse Ed Davis and Harvey Mandel have their cases to be made. No doubt Clapton (and then Mick Taylor) are the most famous to have played with Mayall. But back in those late 60s both Eric and Peter were fantastic. Unfortunately, they both lost the plot. Peter with LSD and subsequent schizophrenia and Eric with all sorts of things. Peter never sounded the same again after that IMHO.
Peter’s version of “Need Your Love so Bad” is as simple as it is beautiful. One of my favorite songs to play….
Agree..Peter Green is mint
Lovely song for sure.
Peter Green is my hero .'rest in peace. Thank you for doing this . We often talk about Peter and Fleetwood Mac on our channel. ❤
I actually did this after seeing your recent John Mayall video. I played 6 songs of his on my radio show last Wednesday. "Someday ..." was one of them. Something clicked and I thought, "Why not do that one?" So thank you for the inspiration brother!
@@MarkZabel you are incredible!
What a compliment from B.B King. Cheers Mark, hope you’re having a good weekend and thanks for another excellent lesson.
Thanks so much!
I wouldn't say underrated.
At least not in Europe.
I was totally blown away by his
seemingly endless sustain on The Supernatural
when the Mayall album was first released.
I followed him through his period of early Fleetwood Mac.
And even bought some of his
jam based early seventies albums.
If you want an underrated guitarist
check out Peter Greens running mate
in Fleetwood Mac: Danny Kirwan.
He played the other guitar on Albatross
and his parts are often mistaken for being mr Greens.
They were like two pieces of a puzzle.
Complementing each other perfectly.
✌✌
Underrated is a trigger word, purposely used. Having said that, you'd be surprised how many people I run into who say, "Peter Who?" and then don't think his play is anything. He certainly wasn't a "fiery" or instantly-impressive player. But then, that's not what he was about.
@@MarkZabel Yeah, one of my all time favourites.
Thank you for spreading the word.
I don't care about "best guitarist" lists. In my personal list of *favourite* guitarists to listen to, Peter Green is way up there. He played the blues so sweetly. A sublime combination of, as you mentioned, tone, phrasing, dynamics, choice of notes/scales, and more. He had it all. A little of the magic was in the accidentally out of phase pickup on his LP. Most of the magic came from his soul. Essential listening: Need Your Love So Bad, Jumping At Shadows, Fool No More, I've Got A Good mind To Give Up Living, and of course, Black Magic Woman (sooo much more raw and heartfelt than Santana's slick and smooth cover version). The Supernatural, an instrumental, echoes the feel of Black Magic Woman, in an eerie slow manner. Not to forget Albatross, another instrumental, where PG lays down a gorgeous framework for Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer to solo over. (In case you hadn't guessed, I've been a rabid PG fan since about '69.)
Thanks for your insightful comment.
I don't care about "best guitarist" lists either (but I know some people do), so I use words like "perhaps" (which many people ignore) and move on. PG should be better known and the guitar world would benefit from more guitarists listening to him. I do happen to be a fan of Eric (and Coco and Walter and Jesse Ed ...), but I'm saddened when I hear guitarist say, "Peter Who?".
BTW, that was me for a long time. Then I bought "A Hard Road" ... then BMW, "Oh Well", "Jumping at Shadows", "A Man of the World", NYLSB, etc. He grows on you. Something so compelling in his echo-ey, nasal guitar tone and the way he plays. It's very haunting. That out-of-phase pickup may have been accidental, but the way he learned to use it wasn't. One of a kind. Makes my eyes tear up just thinking about it.
One of the most soulful guitarists ever. His soul was connected to his playing. Him and Slowhand were the best guitarists the great John Mayall ever had.
Amen. (Although I'm partial to Coco Montoya as well.)
Great history lesson and lesson. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the nice reflection on Peter Green. And thank you for all the free gifts you continue to give us, like the triad chart in today's video. It's been saved for future use like some others of yours.
You see, I haven't been able to pick up a guitar for almost a year now. Trigger fingers on both hands needed to be surgically repaired. When my stitches come out of my left hand next week, the docs will set me up to do Carpal Tunnel surgery on my right hand. After all of that I may need further surgery on my right hand to repair some tendons. Heaven knows how long it will be till I'm back in the playing mode.
I just want to pass on to folks: Never take your playing time for granted. You never know what may happen to take that time away. It could be a job, an injury, an illness, or the Lord forbid; an accident. Keep at it and share your talents with others at every opportunity. Much Peace!
Thanks so much Pete, and so sorry to hear about your condition. You are so right about cherishing your time! Thanks for sharing your story brother!
@@petegdula4749 Speedy recovery Pete. Looking forward to hearing you’re back on the axe.
Thanks for the excellent lesson, Mark! I've just begun seeking and finding triads all over to use in rhythm playing and now this connects it to lead playing. Couldn't have been better timing to find this lesson!
My pleasure! Triads make the world go around! LOL! They sure do make things easier once you're through the initial breaking-in period.
Great analysis Mark!
Thank you so much!
RIP John and Peter
I watch all your videos and shorts. You have really opened up playing pentatonic to me again!
Great!
I mentioned how you made me think of the Peter Green era of Fleetwood Mac in a recent video and you came right back with this song - "Someday After a While". And here we are today.
I'm going to enjoy this.
Awesome!
Just embarked on your Visualize the fretboard lessons. Really opened door to understanding. I can get what you are laying out here
PG is a hero of mine. Thanks for this lesson and hopefully more to come
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Awesome, thanks so much! Glad you liked this video.
As you said John Mayall and the bluesbreakers was a real nurseryscholl for guitar players in the sixties, Peter Green had a very gentle and beautiful way of playing. I remember the instrumental Albatross, don't know if you can call that blues but it was a great piece of music. Thank's for your lessons.
You're very welcome. I like that description of his play - gentle and beautiful.
I got into Peter Green through Gary Moore after Gary took his blues turn in the late 80s.
Thanks for the lesson.
Great work as always.
Thanks! I think Gary owned "Greenie" (Peter's Les Paul) for a while too. I believe Kirk Hammett owns it now.
@@MarkZabel - You're correct. As far as I remember Gary had an injury on tour in the 2000s which meant he couldn't complete a tour. Unfortunately his contract stipulated that he must cover the expenses for the tour cancellation and as a result he had to sell off some of his gear to meet the debt. Peter's guitar was among the collection he sold because of the high value attached to it. Terrible situation for the man.
PG is hands down one the best guitar players ever. Fleetwood Mac and BMW! Insane. His playing opens you up to a whole new style of music! That sweet blues sound. It was actually through your YT channel I found PG!
Wow. Now THAT makes me happy!
Always good well explained lessons
Glad you like them!
RIP John 🌹 very nice tribute Mark, beautiful tone! 👋🖤🦋🖤
Thank you Kris!
🎉what a little fantastic video have a wonderful weekend mark also RIP to John mayall also Peter green ❤😊
Thank you! You too!
Peter Green is one of my favorites! Great blues player!
Mine too!
Fleetwood Mac's Live In Boston 1970 shows where Peter was heading musically, until he went to Munich. Having started out on Bass Peter obviously learnt the importance of the Rhythm section, his playing fits the music as he was responding to what he was playing along with, musically not mathematically. Good video
Thanks. Yes, that fateful Munich incident. Such a loss for everyone. Seeing Peter interviewed later on in his life can be so painful to watch ... painful and tear-jerking.
What about Albatross! I wax about four years old when I heard this, and it has always stayed with me. Beautiful etherial sound! The only shame is there are five guitars playing on it, but only three guitarists in the band.😊
His dynamics, touch and timing were peerless. The coda to Jumping at Shadows on Live in Boston part 1 encapsulates it all. The suspension before the final note and then when it resolves its emotional timbre. Interestingly there’s another version on part 3 to compare to which shows that none of his phrasing and note selection is by rote but the feel at the moment as he rides the tone and volume controls. Of course Eric was there first and his blistering Stormy Monday solo with Mayall live at the Flamingo is perhaps the acme of British blues soloing in the 60s and Mick’s progressive work on Mayall’s Bare Wires album and on from that I love but for me neither of them expressed the high wire emotionality of Peter.
I feel the same about Peter. That out-of-phase sound (not just what it was, but HOW he used it) was astounding. Great player in those early years.
Peter Green was everything a guitarist should be.
Yes.
Heys Mark, been watching your videos for a while now. Totally weird, your RUclips bell had a slash through it when I came to watch this video.
Thanks. Hmmm. That's interesting about the bell. No idea what it means.
Always loved Peter Green , but not quite as much as Danny Kirwan.
Danny was very good. Danny and Peter worked well together - musically. Another sad, sad life story.
🔥🔥🔥
Peter Green unknown and underrated? What?
You'd be surprised how many people I run into who say, "Peter Who?" and then don't think his play is anything at all. In Europe it may be a different story among people 60+. I hear a lot of people who say "Rory who?" as well.
Éxcelente
Just to offer a bit of constructive criticism, try asking the edge of your picking hand if you deep dive into P/G,s playing it came from the gut morphing into a light touch , no offence ok
Peter might have been underrated in the States but here in the UK he wasn't.
That means he's underrated, no? Clapton became one of the biggest names in music over here. The most common answer I get to, "What do you think about Peter Green" is "Peter who?"
John mayalll only had great guitar players! Mick Taylor, Walter trout, Clapton, green,etc, etc. He had more great guitar players than Ozzy!🤣
Utmost respectfully... If you think Peter Green was mayhall's greatest guitarist you are f****** high!!!! Clapton Beano era. .. PERIOD. MICK TAYLOR!
End all the guitarists of that are improvised.
Other than initial arrangements Cream never rehearsed!
Listen to Supernatural and tell me Green wasn’t the best guitar player in the Bluesbreakers with a straight face.
C'mon. Listen again. I used the word "perhaps." I could argue for either Eric or Peter as far as Mayall's guitarists go. Heck, Coco Montoya and even Jesse Ed Davis and Harvey Mandel have their cases to be made. No doubt Clapton (and then Mick Taylor) are the most famous to have played with Mayall. But back in those late 60s both Eric and Peter were fantastic.
Unfortunately, they both lost the plot. Peter with LSD and subsequent schizophrenia and Eric with all sorts of things. Peter never sounded the same again after that IMHO.