Three years ago I read The Crow for the first time while in the hospital, very injured. Your profound art has brought me great comfort in a time where I had none. Thank you for creating.
Thank you sir. This movie holds a special place in my heart and created a total vibe that is yet unmatched. Just looking at the covers of the comic make me feel some type of way. Great work.
There is probably an entire book to be written about the goth zeitgeist of late 80s culture and the overlapping of music and how Souixie Sue and The Cure inspired the "look" from that era and obviously inspired The Crow and Sandman. This is a stellar video, guys! Thank you for putting this together.
Along with Iggy Pop, he modeled Eric after Peter Murphy from Bauhaus. Lots of weird little Easter eggs, from titles of songs or lyrics. It IS super goth. Great video guys, still have the original first issue after all these years. If you're gonna do a deep dive on Caliber, you gotta give us the hook up on Vincent Locke and Dead World. 5 Stars guys!
@@Untitled_Coffee_Art Morpheus wasn't actually modelled on Peter Murphy. (He, like Lucifer, was modelled on Bowie) But when Mike Dringenberg, the inker for the first Sandman book was presented with Morpheus, he commented that Dream looks like Murphy. Gaiman was at the time completely unfamiliar with the goth seen and went to track down some Bauhaus tapes and watched them.
Incredible as always guys. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it all. The Crow (1989) James O’Barr Bands & Visual Influences Iggy Pop (1977) Live Lust for Life - Iggy is from Detroit (The Crow) Bauhaus (1978-1983 Northampton England) Peter Murphy -vocals Daniel Ash - guitar David J. - Bass Kevin Haskins - drums (Peter & Daniel - LOOK for The Crow) “Dark Entries”1982: ruclips.net/video/K0bLCILyVRk/видео.html (Dance & Comedy/Tragedy Masks) “Ziggy Stardust” cover ruclips.net/video/rhJZrRV5YKo/видео.html (Dance & Look) Love and Rockets (1985-1999) Daniel Ash - Guitars and Vocals, David J. - Bass and Vocals, Kevin Haskins - drums “Yin and Yang (The Flowerpot Man)” 1986 ruclips.net/video/zwtE8O-LLjI/видео.html (Stark Black & Whites) Killing Joke (1978-1996) Singer Jaz Coleman in Joker-esque makeup 1983: ruclips.net/video/mTPXl3ipyi0/видео.html The Adicts (1975-) Singer in Joker-esque make-up “Joker in the Pack” 1982 ruclips.net/video/Tcqyzn8LBdA/видео.html (See also) Samurai #7 1986 (Peter Murphy of Bauhaus Cover) Night’s Children #1 2006 (Peter Murphy of Bauhaus Cover) Killing Joke 1988 Love & Rockets 1983 Alan Moore & David J. of Bauhaus/Love & Rockets performing live and in comics as “The Moon and Serpent Grand Theatre of Marvels” The Hunger (1983) Movie by dir. Tony Scott brother of Ridley Scott. Intro w/ Bauhaus performing “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”
I got into art and doing my own book because of James. I found the crow in 1990 when my family moved to the states.. long island, I was in 8-th 9th grade something like that. His art is amazing. Brilliant book. I met him a few times, He's really a dark dude but really cool, really nice but there's this Aura around him thats creative and dark. Good review mates👍🏻
i think what impresses me the most in this is that the creator seems to have a completely solid idea of what his story is and why. everything about it is EXACTLY what he wants/needs it to be.
Only book I ever bought on eBay, O'Barr also let me have coffee and fanboy all over him at both cons I saw him at. Friendly, and crass at the same time. The movie and Ninja Turtles are my gateways to larger comics, even before Batman. It's pretty much an obsession.
Jim, me too. Don't feel too bad. Take it from me, there's almost nothing sadder than a chubby, curly haired Hispanic kid dressed as the Crow circa 2003...
This is the video I've been waiting for! This book and the movie are such huge influences on me in so many ways. Hopefully you guys can get a shoot interview with James O'Barr eventually. Anyways, Thanks guys.
1:13:43 FWIW that's actually a photo of a painting: Caspar David Friedrich's "Monastery Graveyard in the Snow." It's the visual analogue to all those uncredited literary references that O'Barr folds into the story ... www.1st-art-gallery.com/Caspar-David-Friedrich/Monastery-Graveyard-In-The-Snow.html
20 minutes in, digging the vid, and realize that the influence of music, and I would speculate that is was very much exactly the Joy Division comfort and company in distress sort of music, might have been accidentally overlooked in your base assessment of influences. The revenent, hell bent on revenge is on display, and can't help but wonder if Sam Keith and Neil weren't visually captived by that 1st robed panel in the tpb. Ol Morpheus might also have a Halloween stint as the crow in his closet as well, Jim.🙃
The version of The Crow I highly recommend to read is The Crow Special Edition by Gallery Books. It's a book I've had on my shelf that's easily accessible to grab so I can reread annually. There's also new additions as well a redrawn pages by J. O'Barr and its just so beautiful. I highly recommend anyone to read it, not only for its story but also for the art improvements that happen over each issue. It's helped me immensely to assess and improve my art style.
My favorite JD ref was the approach to the graphic design of the end piece: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer_(Joy_Division_album)#/media/File:Joy_Division_Closer.jpg
I don't remember seeing it anywhere in interviews but I think that whole dream sequence with the horse is lifted from a song called the Other Window by Wire from 1979 He took his seat on the foreign train He thought it pleasant to travel again Mindful of the journey's end He read again the letter from his friend Time passed as it often does The seat was hard, the carriage fetid He was dressed for summer, but still he sweat ed It was better than being home Feeling the cold, and living alone Time passed slowly Around him people spoke in French Despite schooldays it made no sense Occasional stares caught his eye He was tempted to smile, but Being shy, time passed When he looked through the window For the thousandth time He saw a black horse fighting for its life In a barbed wire fence Fatally tangled The more it struggled The more it was strangled Time sped up He turned away There was nothing he could do The other window Had a nicer view Time passed painfully
Yo Sting started to grow his hair out because of the damage to his hair from bleaching it. The idea for the crow gimmick came from scott hall who suggested it in the locker room. You can track that down on the stone cold steve austin podcast where he was interviewed.
I was buying the Crow in real time, from Caliber Presents #1 (which I later got signed by Vigil, I can't remember if I ever met O'Barr to get him to sign it. I've got to dig that issue out to check.) Definitely one of my favorite independents from that era. I miss those days.
New sub, gentlemen..fantastic critique. Took me back to when and why I took up a career in art..to staunchly follow O’Barr’s example. My art class before my art school. To use this medium specifically to tell my own dark, gritty, but honest stories. Crow fan for 30 years now, and if not for that particular book, I’d have probably ended up like my own father, turning wrenches until the day he died. Thanks for this video. Cheers from Washington DC
Sting was the original wrestler who was pitched the idea to turn heel and be revealed as the third member if the nWo but he passed and Hogan went for it. Bad guys and tweeners were all the rave, so Sting wanted to reinvent himself and Scott Hall suggested the Crow movie, just as he had taken cues frim Scarface for his Razor Ramon.
Yep, the way O'Barr draws faces and eyes owes a lot to Bode. He's always been pretty open about Bode's influence, he's one of the few artists mentioned in the introduction to the Kitchen Sink TPB.
I resonate with every aspect of this story. I was that same kid reading Youngblood, drawing in black & white and one day got slapped with The Crow out of nowhere and was forever changed. 😂 🙏🏾
Great job on this. I see a bunch of Eisner influence in the early issues, then more manga as the series progressed. Not sure if you guys got that vibe also.
wanna talk about religious imagery? James O'Barr's name is J.O.B. or JOB from the bible. "Job is presented as a good and prosperous family man who is suddenly beset with horrendous disasters that take away all he holds dear-a scenario intended to test Job's faith in God. Struggling mightily to understand this situation, Job reflects on his despair but consistently remains devout"-wikipedia
According to Wiki, O'Barr is from Detroit at 34:00, in a DVD extra O'Barr says he based Gideon on Jon Polito and was overjoyed that they were able to cast him for Gideon in the movie.
Sting the wrestler was given the Crow idea by Scott Hall of nWo. It played into Sting being the silent mysterious avenger of WCW feuding against the invading group of nWo.
If anyone's looking for a deeper dive on the history of Caliber, its founder, the late Gary Reed, did a series of posts on his blog. These two posts cover a lot of ground: reedgary.blogspot.com/2011/06/caliber-part-4-decision.html reedgary.blogspot.com/2011/06/caliber-part-5-launch.html
I do believe that the scar across Eric's face was from the impact of the bullet hitting the inside of his skull and rupturing through the sphenoid bone breaking the infraorbital bone, and causing the tear in the skin on his face and bleaching out the color of his left eye.
Jim's words ring true. I bought the issue of Comic Scene for the youngblood info, and then got exposed and seduced to the Crow. And from there, the music of Joy Division.
Very fun-- It feels like Jim's recollections of this are dead-on with my early experience with this book. The one thing I really remember about this collection that I didn't catch you guys mentioning was that my book had a very strong odor to it -from the copious amounts of black ink I assume.
You guys should do berserk if you really want to see what one man can do over 30 years. Kentaro Miura made a masterpiece and if you look at the panels about midway through the series where they're still hand drawn and not digitally drawn like they did for the last few chapters. They look amazing. Just remember anything after chapter 365 is the new artist since sadly Miura died and the series was unfinished
@@CartoonistKayfabe I do see your point and I know Miura had 5 assistants by the time he started Duranki in 2019, called studio gaga and they would so some shading and building touch ups towards the end he let them do ground work too, but thats why i also tell you to look at the middle chapters of berserk. I don't think he had any in the early years or through most of golden age which was 10 years by itself and he started in college around 1987. It started out rougher and then polished up, but the story, paneling, illustration was all him to the point that if you look at the chapters released after his death the visuals and tone are all off. It would be like if obarr died during the crow how would you recreate a single person's work? Now both the crow hold a special place in my heart and both men devoted countless years too thier works. No one can deny the tragedy and sadness that obarr poured into his comic, using it as a form of work therapy and punishment at the same time. I can't image pouring your real life stories into a comic and drawing someone you lost everyday for 10 years. That being said berserk is more of a philosophical story that is one of the deepest stories I've ever read and my personal favorite. And I think even if he had a few assistants in the later years if obarr spent 9 years making the crow and Miura spent 33 years making berserk. One is drop in a hat by comparison. Berserk truly was kentaro miuras life work he started and ended his career on one comic, health neglected to the point of an undiagnosed heart condition. And if he spent 10 years on goldenage with no help that's only 1 out of 5 arcs of berserk not including the 8 chapter blackswordsman arc. I'm not trying to persuade you and thanks for the discussion :^)
The crow isn't a comic, it's a legit book. The only other book I can compare it to is Count of Monte Cristo It's a thing cause I had a fiance that passed in a plane crash. I've never had a healthy relationship since and I've tried to kill myself 2 times I hear third time's a charm
Why does everyone call Eric Draven "The Crow"? He is not The Crow. The Crow is The Crow. Eric Draven is not a super hero. He is merely himself and never hides that fact. He never hides his identity to be anything other than himself. The people calling Eric, "The Crow" are missing the entire point of The Crow. The Crow is the true hero. Not Eric. The first time the Wraith was mistaken as "The Crow" is in The Crow: City of Angels. The guy called himself "The Crow" no less. It always made me cringe when he called himself "The Crow". That was the first of the films to miss the point. Eric is a Wraith.
Thank you guys. ---James O'Barr
Three years ago I read The Crow for the first time while in the hospital, very injured. Your profound art has brought me great comfort in a time where I had none. Thank you for creating.
Thank you sir. This movie holds a special place in my heart and created a total vibe that is yet unmatched. Just looking at the covers of the comic make me feel some type of way. Great work.
The Crow's cat is hardcore, not even flinching as the house explodes behind them. One-of-a-kind kitty.
His name is Gabriel
Don't ever speak about an animal without the respect enough to remember their name
Fictional or not
SMH
I sent James O'Barr this video!
Connect us with him through email Cartoonist.kayfabe@gmail.com . We gotta try to arrange a shoot interview with the man.
@@CartoonistKayfabe I will send him your email!
@@therealkentarozero086 I live in Dallas/ Fort Worth. I am also a local artist here and have known James for a while. Why do you want to contact him?
Are you the same Terry Parr who was in the Amateur Creator's Union in the mid-90s? instagram.com/p/CCUd-iohKfn/
The Sting change was proposed by Scott Hall (as legend has it) He based it off of the movie. Not sure if Sting or Hall had any knowledge of the comic.
There is probably an entire book to be written about the goth zeitgeist of late 80s culture and the overlapping of music and how Souixie Sue and The Cure inspired the "look" from that era and obviously inspired The Crow and Sandman. This is a stellar video, guys! Thank you for putting this together.
Along with Iggy Pop, he modeled Eric after Peter Murphy from Bauhaus. Lots of weird little Easter eggs, from titles of songs or lyrics. It IS super goth. Great video guys, still have the original first issue after all these years. If you're gonna do a deep dive on Caliber, you gotta give us the hook up on Vincent Locke and Dead World. 5 Stars guys!
second the dead World
oh wow, I read (forever ago) they modeled Morpheus after Peter Murphy. The "Cut you up" music video really illustrated that to me.
I learned about Joy Division too because of him
Modeled after those two guys + ancient Greek statues
@@Untitled_Coffee_Art Morpheus wasn't actually modelled on Peter Murphy. (He, like Lucifer, was modelled on Bowie) But when Mike Dringenberg, the inker for the first Sandman book was presented with Morpheus, he commented that Dream looks like Murphy. Gaiman was at the time completely unfamiliar with the goth seen and went to track down some Bauhaus tapes and watched them.
The Dutch angle. Good for creating a sense of things being off or weird. O'Barr really has a strong flair for cinematic imagery
This was probably the book that really got me into comics. I love it so much.
The book that made me want to do comics. thanks for putting this up!
Incredible as always guys. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it all.
The Crow (1989) James O’Barr
Bands & Visual Influences
Iggy Pop (1977) Live Lust for Life - Iggy is from Detroit (The Crow)
Bauhaus (1978-1983 Northampton England) Peter Murphy -vocals Daniel Ash - guitar David J. - Bass Kevin Haskins - drums (Peter & Daniel - LOOK for The Crow)
“Dark Entries”1982:
ruclips.net/video/K0bLCILyVRk/видео.html (Dance & Comedy/Tragedy Masks)
“Ziggy Stardust” cover
ruclips.net/video/rhJZrRV5YKo/видео.html (Dance & Look)
Love and Rockets (1985-1999) Daniel Ash - Guitars and Vocals, David J. - Bass and Vocals, Kevin Haskins - drums
“Yin and Yang (The Flowerpot Man)” 1986
ruclips.net/video/zwtE8O-LLjI/видео.html (Stark Black & Whites)
Killing Joke (1978-1996) Singer Jaz Coleman in Joker-esque makeup
1983:
ruclips.net/video/mTPXl3ipyi0/видео.html
The Adicts (1975-) Singer in Joker-esque make-up
“Joker in the Pack” 1982
ruclips.net/video/Tcqyzn8LBdA/видео.html
(See also)
Samurai #7 1986 (Peter Murphy of Bauhaus Cover)
Night’s Children #1 2006 (Peter Murphy of Bauhaus Cover)
Killing Joke 1988
Love & Rockets 1983
Alan Moore & David J. of Bauhaus/Love & Rockets performing live and in comics as “The Moon and Serpent Grand Theatre of Marvels”
The Hunger (1983) Movie by dir. Tony Scott brother of Ridley Scott. Intro w/ Bauhaus performing “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”
ruclips.net/video/8fXKpmW9H8U/видео.html
this stuff came as a disc with a hard cover tpb in the 90s. john bergin & james playing with the synths
Awesome that you decided to make a video on The Crow by James O'Barr because I just pulled the graphic novel out to read earlier today.
I got into art and doing my own book because of James. I found the crow in 1990 when my family moved to the states.. long island, I was in 8-th 9th grade something like that. His art is amazing. Brilliant book. I met him a few times, He's really a dark dude but really cool, really nice but there's this Aura around him thats creative and dark. Good review mates👍🏻
i think what impresses me the most in this is that the creator seems to have a completely solid idea of what his story is and why. everything about it is EXACTLY what he wants/needs it to be.
Only book I ever bought on eBay, O'Barr also let me have coffee and fanboy all over him at both cons I saw him at. Friendly, and crass at the same time. The movie and Ninja Turtles are my gateways to larger comics, even before Batman. It's pretty much an obsession.
Jim, me too. Don't feel too bad. Take it from me, there's almost nothing sadder than a chubby, curly haired Hispanic kid dressed as the Crow circa 2003...
This is the video I've been waiting for! This book and the movie are such huge influences on me in so many ways. Hopefully you guys can get a shoot interview with James O'Barr eventually. Anyways, Thanks guys.
The soundtrack to this film was number one in my goth/industrial cd rotation. How bout the song ghost rider by Rollins band? It’s hilarious but great
1:13:43 FWIW that's actually a photo of a painting: Caspar David Friedrich's "Monastery Graveyard in the Snow." It's the visual analogue to all those uncredited literary references that O'Barr folds into the story ...
www.1st-art-gallery.com/Caspar-David-Friedrich/Monastery-Graveyard-In-The-Snow.html
I had that exact book... omg what a stroll down memory lane... the art blew my mind when I found it
New Dawn Fades is a Joy Division reference(as is Shadowplay). There are a lot of musical nods in The Crow, mostly to The Cure and Joy Division.
20 minutes in, digging the vid, and realize that the influence of music, and I would speculate that is was very much exactly the Joy Division comfort and company in distress sort of music, might have been accidentally overlooked in your base assessment of influences.
The revenent, hell bent on revenge is on display, and can't help but wonder if Sam Keith and Neil weren't visually captived by that 1st robed panel in the tpb. Ol Morpheus might also have a Halloween stint as the crow in his closet as well, Jim.🙃
O'Barr even said that Eric is drawn like Ian Curtis with a body of Iggy Pop.
The version of The Crow I highly recommend to read is The Crow Special Edition by Gallery Books. It's a book I've had on my shelf that's easily accessible to grab so I can reread annually. There's also new additions as well a redrawn pages by J. O'Barr and its just so beautiful. I highly recommend anyone to read it, not only for its story but also for the art improvements that happen over each issue. It's helped me immensely to assess and improve my art style.
I've been waiting for this one! Thanks guys!
My favorite JD ref was the approach to the graphic design of the end piece:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closer_(Joy_Division_album)#/media/File:Joy_Division_Closer.jpg
I really really enjoyed this video, thanks guys. I hope you do get to talk to James O'barr, the guy is legend.
I hope you can interview James O'barr
I don't remember seeing it anywhere in interviews but I think that whole dream sequence with the horse is lifted from a song called the Other Window by Wire from 1979
He took his seat on the foreign train
He thought it pleasant to travel again
Mindful of the journey's end
He read again the letter from his friend
Time passed as it often does
The seat was hard, the carriage fetid
He was dressed for summer, but still he sweat ed
It was better than being home
Feeling the cold, and living alone
Time passed slowly
Around him people spoke in French
Despite schooldays it made no sense
Occasional stares caught his eye
He was tempted to smile, but
Being shy, time passed
When he looked through the window
For the thousandth time
He saw a black horse fighting for its life
In a barbed wire fence
Fatally tangled
The more it struggled
The more it was strangled
Time sped up
He turned away
There was nothing he could do
The other window
Had a nicer view
Time passed painfully
Love this! Crow and the Caliber comics line had a massive influence on me back then. Hope you do an in-depth coverage of Caliber!
Yo Sting started to grow his hair out because of the damage to his hair from bleaching it. The idea for the crow gimmick came from scott hall who suggested it in the locker room. You can track that down on the stone cold steve austin podcast where he was interviewed.
30:00 Not sure The Crows meaning but The Joker danced just like that after a kill in the movie.
I was buying the Crow in real time, from Caliber Presents #1 (which I later got signed by Vigil, I can't remember if I ever met O'Barr to get him to sign it. I've got to dig that issue out to check.) Definitely one of my favorite independents from that era. I miss those days.
This was a treat man, thanks guys.
New sub, gentlemen..fantastic critique. Took me back to when and why I took up a career in art..to staunchly follow O’Barr’s example. My art class before my art school. To use this medium specifically to tell my own dark, gritty, but honest stories. Crow fan for 30 years now, and if not for that particular book, I’d have probably ended up like my own father, turning wrenches until the day he died. Thanks for this video. Cheers from Washington DC
Does he name drop Taxi Driver? Because that seems like a touchstone for this.
30:15 The dancing kinda reminds me of Clockwork Orange, during the "Singing in the Rain" scene, right before the ultraviolence begins.
Sting was the original wrestler who was pitched the idea to turn heel and be revealed as the third member if the nWo but he passed and Hogan went for it. Bad guys and tweeners were all the rave, so Sting wanted to reinvent himself and Scott Hall suggested the Crow movie, just as he had taken cues frim Scarface for his Razor Ramon.
I got a strong Vaughn Bode influence but channeled through a Joy Division goth fueled filter.
Yep, the way O'Barr draws faces and eyes owes a lot to Bode. He's always been pretty open about Bode's influence, he's one of the few artists mentioned in the introduction to the Kitchen Sink TPB.
O'Barr talks a bunch about Bode here: www.nerdteam30.com/creator-conversations/an-interview-with-indie-comics-icon-james-obarr
Bought this book when it came out. Saw the movie the day it opened. Stuff of legend.
You asked what a James O'Barr Daredevil would look like? You can purchase an example here: www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=642647
He’s a beast
The wrestler Scott Hall talks about how he came up with the idea for sting to adopt the crow look. It’s on RUclips somewhere
I’m not big on reading superhero/villain poetry. Though this has intrigued me to expand my intellect. Cheers! Thanks for the video.
This coverage was really great!! A James O'Barr shoot interview would be fuckin amazing!!
I resonate with every aspect of this story. I was that same kid reading Youngblood, drawing in black & white and one day got slapped with The Crow out of nowhere and was forever changed. 😂 🙏🏾
Great job on this. I see a bunch of Eisner influence in the early issues, then more manga as the series progressed. Not sure if you guys got that vibe also.
That sword becomes a cross on top; The job is done, joke's over.)
You guys continue to pull awesome stuff. I remember this from my younger days at Atomic Comic.
wanna talk about religious imagery? James O'Barr's name is J.O.B. or JOB from the bible.
"Job is presented as a good and prosperous family man who is suddenly beset with horrendous disasters that take away all he holds dear-a scenario intended to test Job's faith in God. Struggling mightily to understand this situation, Job reflects on his despair but consistently remains devout"-wikipedia
Dude, I loved going to Century III Mall. Miss that place.
Great vid, one of my favorite books and I'm seeing it in new light
43:00 She did rock a skateboard in the movie though. XD
According to Wiki, O'Barr is from Detroit
at 34:00, in a DVD extra O'Barr says he based Gideon on Jon Polito and was overjoyed that they were able to cast him for Gideon in the movie.
Sting the wrestler was given the Crow idea by Scott Hall of nWo.
It played into Sting being the silent mysterious avenger of WCW feuding against the invading group of nWo.
Great examination of The Crow!
Thank you guys for the amazing review!:) I have a question for you: what does, in your opinion, the shape in the page "END" represent?
If anyone's looking for a deeper dive on the history of Caliber, its founder, the late Gary Reed, did a series of posts on his blog. These two posts cover a lot of ground:
reedgary.blogspot.com/2011/06/caliber-part-4-decision.html
reedgary.blogspot.com/2011/06/caliber-part-5-launch.html
30:24 reminds me of the joker. Just a descent into madness
gothic art (christian art) - - - goth art (eyeliner), the world evolves in some strange ways.
Stings make-up is based on Marilyn Manson and the crow
I own that book. I purchased it in 1996 and I am very careful with it. Its my prized possession.
33:30 i think thats him turning the light back on
I do believe that the scar across Eric's face was from the impact of the bullet hitting the inside of his skull and rupturing through the sphenoid bone breaking the infraorbital bone, and causing the tear in the skin on his face and bleaching out the color of his left eye.
Thanks to the homies Ed and Jim for this one!!!
Fantastic review. This is why the underground scene can never be gatekept
I have this very same edition!
Jim's words ring true. I bought the issue of Comic Scene for the youngblood info, and then got exposed and seduced to the Crow. And from there, the music of Joy Division.
Very fun-- It feels like Jim's recollections of this are dead-on with my early experience with this book.
The one thing I really remember about this collection that I didn't catch you guys mentioning was that my book had a very strong odor to it -from the copious amounts of black ink I assume.
We didn't mention it because neither of our books stink.
You guys should do berserk if you really want to see what one man can do over 30 years. Kentaro Miura made a masterpiece and if you look at the panels about midway through the series where they're still hand drawn and not digitally drawn like they did for the last few chapters. They look amazing. Just remember anything after chapter 365 is the new artist since sadly Miura died and the series was unfinished
Mangaka have many nameless assistants. James O'Barr made his comic all by himself.
@@CartoonistKayfabe I do see your point and I know Miura had 5 assistants by the time he started Duranki in 2019, called studio gaga and they would so some shading and building touch ups towards the end he let them do ground work too, but thats why i also tell you to look at the middle chapters of berserk. I don't think he had any in the early years or through most of golden age which was 10 years by itself and he started in college around 1987. It started out rougher and then polished up, but the story, paneling, illustration was all him to the point that if you look at the chapters released after his death the visuals and tone are all off. It would be like if obarr died during the crow how would you recreate a single person's work?
Now both the crow hold a special place in my heart and both men devoted countless years too thier works. No one can deny the tragedy and sadness that obarr poured into his comic, using it as a form of work therapy and punishment at the same time. I can't image pouring your real life stories into a comic and drawing someone you lost everyday for 10 years.
That being said berserk is more of a philosophical story that is one of the deepest stories I've ever read and my personal favorite. And I think even if he had a few assistants in the later years if obarr spent 9 years making the crow and Miura spent 33 years making berserk. One is drop in a hat by comparison.
Berserk truly was kentaro miuras life work he started and ended his career on one comic, health neglected to the point of an undiagnosed heart condition. And if he spent 10 years on goldenage with no help that's only 1 out of 5 arcs of berserk not including the 8 chapter blackswordsman arc.
I'm not trying to persuade you and thanks for the discussion :^)
Your copy is in about as good a shape as mine.
Don't know how I missed this one
nice video
Iggy Pop!
The crow isn't a comic, it's a legit book. The only other book I can compare it to is Count of Monte Cristo
It's a thing cause I had a fiance that passed in a plane crash. I've never had a healthy relationship since and I've tried to kill myself 2 times
I hear third time's a charm
Why does everyone call Eric Draven "The Crow"? He is not The Crow. The Crow is The Crow. Eric Draven is not a super hero. He is merely himself and never hides that fact. He never hides his identity to be anything other than himself. The people calling Eric, "The Crow" are missing the entire point of The Crow. The Crow is the true hero. Not Eric. The first time the Wraith was mistaken as "The Crow" is in The Crow: City of Angels. The guy called himself "The Crow" no less. It always made me cringe when he called himself "The Crow". That was the first of the films to miss the point. Eric is a Wraith.