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  • @ThundahPrime
    @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +18

    Quick Correction: Her ult does NOT heal teamwide. In it's initial description it did not specify, but since the wording was similar to that of Xianyun I assumed it did. Sorry!
    But I would like to say that this is not a massive dealbreaker. In most traditional teams this is going to be fine. In a Navia team for example, she will be used quite early on in the rotation, allowing most characters to be healed anyway for extra fanfare generation. The only exception is Furina herself, but if you change the rotation a bit to
    Furina Q > Xilonen E N2 Q > Furina E
    that way everyone still gets healed and you have a very front-loaded fanfare generation

  • @schopenhauer5427
    @schopenhauer5427 15 дней назад +27

    Quick correction, she's a not a team wide healer, she only heals the active character

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +8

      My mistake, on hakushin her ult's description was recently changed to reflect this which I did not catch. I'll make a note about it in the pinned comment.

  • @eps-dt7jp
    @eps-dt7jp 15 дней назад +29

    "Xilonen is a first hybrid character"
    Noelle: am I joke to you 😭😭😭

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +1

      @@eps-dt7jp the fact I forget that she exists should tell you enough

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 15 дней назад

      Noelle, Furina, Neuvillette

    • @eps-dt7jp
      @eps-dt7jp 15 дней назад +3

      @@ThundahPrime she is completely viable, the only Problem is you need Premium Team for her: gorou c6, furina c0, chiori c1 and ittos signature. Noelle is Main dps in this Team and furina enabler.
      I have many "Premium" teams including mostly 5* partially with 5* signatures so this noelle team performs very good in comparison.

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад

      @@nyes4596 how is Furina a DPS and how is Neuv a support

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 15 дней назад

      @@ThundahPrime C6 Furina, and Amber Neuvillette makes you not having to use a healer in team so you can use full support

  • @viralm06
    @viralm06 14 дней назад +11

    She is not k*lling kazu, it's just furina yelan/xingqiu situation

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  14 дней назад +3

      @@viralm06 if you watched the video you would have gotten to the part where I compare the two, concluding that they each had their own benefits

  • @Demiurgoss
    @Demiurgoss 15 дней назад +4

    Great video man, I enjoyed the team speculation segment. Not many leak videos discuss these things in depth and it helps me appraise whether I want her on my account. I also appreciate the human voice over

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +3

      No problem. I know a lot of leak channels are soulless AI slop that just read out the abilities and don't go in depth, but as a theorycrafter I like to actively think about what effect a character will have on the current metagame. Hope to see you on my othe videos as well!

  • @omgitsnathan
    @omgitsnathan 15 дней назад +9

    The people calling her a powercreep really tick me off for some reason lmao. Not just for Xilonen, but for each new character coming out, I just hate people directly puling out the word powercreep without even trying it in practice. She honestly just does seem like a sidegrade, which i REALLY appreciate that you mentioned that.

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +1

      @@omgitsnathan It really frustrates me too. Sure, in some situations I can see it, but Kazuha and Xilonen are very equal. Xilonen offers healing, Geo buffing and more uptime, with Kazuha having Elemental application, Grouping and stronger buffs. They really are equals to me

    • @NavoSharif
      @NavoSharif 14 дней назад

      @@ThundahPrimehow does kazuha have stronger buffs

    • @NavoSharif
      @NavoSharif 14 дней назад

      Cc isn’t needed anymore tbh and her personal damage output is higher

    • @NavoSharif
      @NavoSharif 14 дней назад

      She is more comfy too . The only team that I see Kazuha doing better is mono pyro

    • @omgitsnathan
      @omgitsnathan 14 дней назад +2

      ​@@NavoSharif VV providing more res shred and his EM scaling buff typically exceeding 40%. Less uptime but it's more than enough with proper rotations.
      CC is content and team dependent. Maybe not prevalent now, but the meta always changes with the abyss content. For example, International and Freeze really benefit from CC when grouping mobs. Kazuha will always be better if you need grouping or elemental application, while Xilonen works more if you dont need grouping or want a more comfy support.
      I dont see the point of arguing who is objectively better. You can use both interchangeably, and they are better in their own situations and teams. Otherwise, they are pretty much equal. The whole point of her being so good is that she's pretty much a 2nd kazuha. Slap them one on each side of the abyss.

  • @user-vj4cu6sb7m
    @user-vj4cu6sb7m 14 дней назад +4

    mualani mains eating with xilonen

  • @goomby4018
    @goomby4018 15 дней назад +6

    also she probably very good with mualani

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +2

      @@goomby4018 It'll be awkward to fit her into the team, but 90% of mualani's teammates are the exact same so I'll have to look into the possibility

  • @Hotaru_Rinarie
    @Hotaru_Rinarie 15 дней назад +2

    Ain't it too early for assumptions
    Lets wait for a bit to see if there change's coming

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +3

      @@Hotaru_Rinarie This video functions as a sort of guideline to how she works and who she will work with. This is less affected by a change in numbers. My guide will come out during Beta V3, which is where the number changes will be addressed

    • @Hotaru_Rinarie
      @Hotaru_Rinarie 15 дней назад +1

      @@ThundahPrime welp I think she's pretty good Geo has been lackin in some spots for years adding her in the geo family is a breath of fresh air, Plus her being able to buff other elements is quite interesting since most Geo characters (aside from Navia and Zhong li) has never tried any way of interaction with the other elements
      But I am curious since you mentioned about Neuvi's potential dmg increase, so will this effect Mualani too?
      They are both natlan characters which lowers the cd of Nightsoul burst thingy and she has a longer buff duration which combats VV 8s window.
      I just wanna know if its worth getting her for Mualani or to just save for Mavuika and Furina

    • @irezan
      @irezan 3 дня назад

      @@Hotaru_Rinarie we dont even know how mavuika functions so its just a gamble and furina might works with xilonen cause of her healing but im not so sure about that. either way she is top tier and probably considered as must pull character with the way how universally functional she is and even have longer buff duration than kazuha. just pull what u want anyway

    • @Hotaru_Rinarie
      @Hotaru_Rinarie 3 дня назад

      @@irezan All right imma pull then
      Since I really hate using Anemo on Mualani
      Cause of the Duration

  • @MrAndresversalles
    @MrAndresversalles 15 дней назад +2

    As always, great video! Have you considered changing the micro? You sound a little bit robotic in my opinion, and you could get way more enjoyable that way. Just a recommendation, feel free to ignore me😂

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +1

      I have considered it, but youtube is not giving me enough money to where I can afford a sizeable upgrade for my mircophone, especially with school starting back up soon, leaving me with less time to work.

    • @MrAndresversalles
      @MrAndresversalles 15 дней назад

      @@ThundahPrime completely understandable, let's see im the future. Good luck!

  • @iyxon
    @iyxon 15 дней назад +2

    about to cook with my c1 chiori, i'm about to use chiori+xilonen forever

  • @ruxyruxandra4673
    @ruxyruxandra4673 14 дней назад +2

    if you use neuvi furina kazuha xilonen then she wont be able to heal with her burst because you will only have 1 hydro thing and 2 geo ones

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  14 дней назад +4

      @@ruxyruxandra4673 It would be 2 Hydro 1 Geo, as you are able of having multiple crystals with the same element

    • @ruxyruxandra4673
      @ruxyruxandra4673 14 дней назад +2

      @@ThundahPrime oh i thought you can only have 1 crystal of the each element not 2 of the same one

  • @thetigle6288
    @thetigle6288 13 дней назад

    Xilonen isn’t a team wide healer, it only heals active character, that’s why not happy about her much.

  • @gianlucabrambilla9665
    @gianlucabrambilla9665 15 дней назад +3

    Honestly i hate how she buffs her teammates but not herself. I really want to make her work as a dps but she doesnt buff herself that much. Like dors her c2 work on her? Because i dont think "all nearby party members" includes herself

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +1

      @@gianlucabrambilla9665 Yes her C2 works on her!

  • @luckasneo2089
    @luckasneo2089 14 дней назад

    dont ignore noelle who got better due to xilonen too

  • @loft90
    @loft90 10 дней назад

    Xilonen does not heal the whple team. You are wrong. her Q only heals the aczive characzer

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  10 дней назад

      considering the fact you are in the comment section you could have taken the time to read my pinned comment

  • @sunny-9246
    @sunny-9246 14 дней назад

    WHAT IS THAT NAVIA WEAPON? How does she do all that damage with the default

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  14 дней назад +1

      I have C6 and felt obligated to nerf her

  • @binsh2399
    @binsh2399 15 дней назад +1

    she's not a team wide healer right?

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад +1

      My mistake, on hakushin her ult's description was recently changed to reflect this which I did not catch. I'll make a note about it in the pinned comment.

  • @fakeidentitychenxuan7628
    @fakeidentitychenxuan7628 14 дней назад

    Having decided to pull on Mualani, im sitting at 21 pulls, should I prioritse saving for Mavuika instead?

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  14 дней назад

      @@fakeidentitychenxuan7628 Mavuika will be coming out in the 5.3 update rsther than 5.2, so it really depends on the reruns and if you want to pull for them. Mavuika and Xilonen will both be good Mualani teammates, so it's up to you. I think with explorstion, anniversary and general saving combined, you may be able to get both

    • @fakeidentitychenxuan7628
      @fakeidentitychenxuan7628 14 дней назад

      @@ThundahPrime I see, Im not sure if its the correct thought but since one of my abyss team is geo (lacks a 5 star support for the longest time, been going itto, benett, gorou and a suport/sub dps depending on abyss), so perhaps Xilonen could be of great use

    • @fakeidentitychenxuan7628
      @fakeidentitychenxuan7628 14 дней назад

      Might wait for reviews, best to be more patient as a f2p :")

  • @nomnomkirby
    @nomnomkirby 15 дней назад

    -800 views, tgs posted first

  • @hj-yj5yo
    @hj-yj5yo 15 дней назад

    tbh my navia is fine with my wack albedo or now kachina. i dont struggle in abyss and my builds arent even that good.
    i think this is a skip for me. im much more in need of an off field pyro for my mualani

    • @schopenhauer5427
      @schopenhauer5427 14 дней назад

      @@hj-yj5yo isn't Xiangling free?

    • @hj-yj5yo
      @hj-yj5yo 14 дней назад

      @@schopenhauer5427 i do use her rn but she needs lots of er and theres not much room for dps. characters like hutao have xingqiu and yelan.
      hopefully the archon is a solid off field pyro dps and buffer for mualani

  • @kkobayashi9882
    @kkobayashi9882 11 дней назад +1

    enough with the clickbait titles gawd

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  11 дней назад

      @@kkobayashi9882 clearly it worked tho

  • @chadchampion3700
    @chadchampion3700 15 дней назад

    She is not a teamwide healer.

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад

      My mistake, on hakushin her ult's description was recently changed to reflect this which I did not catch. I'll make a note about it in the pinned comment.

  • @CRANEREVIEWS
    @CRANEREVIEWS 15 дней назад +5

    Chiori antisynergy with Navia? Wut? Don't cook again

    • @tactician3023
      @tactician3023 15 дней назад +3

      True tho

    • @CRANEREVIEWS
      @CRANEREVIEWS 15 дней назад

      @@tactician3023 true what? That you and the author of the video need to buy a dictionary? True, indeed

    • @moritz4026
      @moritz4026 15 дней назад +10

      ​@@CRANEREVIEWS hes just talking about how navia leaves chiori with only like two thirds of her kit, even if shes been a really good geo for navia. and about the fact that neither zhong nor chiori nor anyone else have had a very impactful kit for navia outside of just being geo. they all arent actually good geos for navia, there just hasnt been one who suits her well. why are you going out of your way to pretend you dont understand what they mean just to flame people

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 15 дней назад

      R u dum

    • @Escultronic
      @Escultronic 15 дней назад +2

      ​​@@CRANEREVIEWSChiori needs a construct to use the 2 dolls which Navia doesn't have and if its for the crystalize then Kachina, Albedo or even Goro are way better for that. What Navia needed was a Geo healer to play comfortably Furina on her team and have the Geo resonance at the same time. Now that Xilonen gives exactly that and a lot of buffs including Critical Rate thats exactly what Navia needed!

  • @Red_behelit9
    @Red_behelit9 15 дней назад +1

    Her healing is single target as I remember

    • @xiangzihua
      @xiangzihua 15 дней назад +1

      it's teamwide now

    • @somastrijder500
      @somastrijder500 15 дней назад

      @@xiangzihuaheck yeah

    • @schopenhauer5427
      @schopenhauer5427 15 дней назад

      ​@@xiangzihuasince when? All sources I read say it's "nearby active characters"

    • @nyes4596
      @nyes4596 15 дней назад

      ​@@xiangzihuamisinformation

    • @ThundahPrime
      @ThundahPrime  15 дней назад

      @@schopenhauer5427 My mistake, on hakushin her ult's description was recently changed to reflect this which I did not catch. I made a note about it in the pinned comment.

  • @yassintitto8693
    @yassintitto8693 12 дней назад

    Kazuha or xilonen for mualani?

  • @MDRGAMER
    @MDRGAMER 15 дней назад

    yooooo