I tried using Duolingo a couple years back when I started learning French, then switched to other traditional methods (classroom study, playing video games in French, reading, RUclips etc.). Now that I got to B1/B2, I tried it again, and had the same issues as jeelmin. It's just not good pedagogically. 1) It fails you on trivial things - typos and misspellings, incorrect gender (I don't think it really matters at B1/B2 whether you say "un marrais" or "une marrais", or whatever) etc. OK, suppose you WANT to memorize genders. But instead of drilling on your gaps in knowledge, you'll just waste time answering questions you already answered before correctly, thus wasting your time. Just use flashcards with words that are difficult! 2) It doesn't allow you to practice relevant skills in general. Instead of thinking which word to put in the sentence about "une presse libre", just read an article from Le Parisien. Because in real world you might need to read an article, or a book, and not think about which word from the list of 5 to put in the empty space in a sentence. It doesn't train your listening abilities (AI voices are awful). It doesn't train your speech. And neither writing - despite having exercises where you write sentences, it fails you on nonsense like in the video, and doesn't provide a feedback (but I actually think ChatGPT is good when it comes to reviewing and grading your essays). It is frustrating, it wastes your time, it barely teaches you a language - I don't understand why it is so popular. And I heard mobile app is even worse. And they removed the discussion sections where you could ask your questions about grammar.
@@letmedoit8095 So, I agree with most of what you wrote, but still think it's not a waste of time. It's actually a nice tool for the first few weeks. The most important thing though is that the streak really helps people that enjoy keeping it running. It's only thanks to the streak that some of those people keep going until they finally switch to helpful learning materials. 😀
I failed to do it on my own native language Romanian, but I got it from first try in my second language English. So I think Duolingo doesn't really translate that well for the other languages as is does for English, and it did had some weird ways of saying things in Romanian.
2:59 that's a confusing thing if you do multiple language on duolingo-- the smaller courses will only be checking your grammer on those exercises, so you can rush through, but now a few of the bigger courses like french are also testing your understanding of the sentences. So the habits you pick up and reinforce in dutch and romanian courses (or doing duolingo french a few years ago) will nowadays loose you hearts in courses like french
Merci ça fait plaisir en tout cas. J'pense que le fait d'avoir voyagé en Australie plus jeune m'a beaucoup aidé et surtout le fait de parler anglais avec des natifs régulièrement
@@Jeelmin Je suis anglaise mais je réponds en français pour pratiquer car j'apprends le français. Je savais que tu étais français quand j'ai entendu ton accent, mais je sais que c'est plus difficile d' identifier un accent pour les francophones. Néanmoins, tu parles bien l'anglais et tout le monde a une sorte d'accent de toute façon. (Je suis désolée s'il y a des erreurs dans mon commentaire)
Thx for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video I think one of the best ways would be to speak with native French people, watch online courses (RUclips, etc.) and practice every day, watch French movies (in French of course haha) and TV shows and if you do all this regularly, you will improve very quickly. I hope that'll help. 😉
@@Jeelmin Je ne sais pas je n'arrive pas à le définir clairement. Je suis en revanche sûr d'une chose, c'est que ce n'est pas un accent de France métropolitaine 😄
I tried using Duolingo a couple years back when I started learning French, then switched to other traditional methods (classroom study, playing video games in French, reading, RUclips etc.). Now that I got to B1/B2, I tried it again, and had the same issues as jeelmin. It's just not good pedagogically.
1) It fails you on trivial things - typos and misspellings, incorrect gender (I don't think it really matters at B1/B2 whether you say "un marrais" or "une marrais", or whatever) etc. OK, suppose you WANT to memorize genders. But instead of drilling on your gaps in knowledge, you'll just waste time answering questions you already answered before correctly, thus wasting your time. Just use flashcards with words that are difficult!
2) It doesn't allow you to practice relevant skills in general. Instead of thinking which word to put in the sentence about "une presse libre", just read an article from Le Parisien. Because in real world you might need to read an article, or a book, and not think about which word from the list of 5 to put in the empty space in a sentence. It doesn't train your listening abilities (AI voices are awful). It doesn't train your speech. And neither writing - despite having exercises where you write sentences, it fails you on nonsense like in the video, and doesn't provide a feedback (but I actually think ChatGPT is good when it comes to reviewing and grading your essays).
It is frustrating, it wastes your time, it barely teaches you a language - I don't understand why it is so popular. And I heard mobile app is even worse. And they removed the discussion sections where you could ask your questions about grammar.
@@letmedoit8095 So, I agree with most of what you wrote, but still think it's not a waste of time.
It's actually a nice tool for the first few weeks.
The most important thing though is that the streak really helps people that enjoy keeping it running. It's only thanks to the streak that some of those people keep going until they finally switch to helpful learning materials. 😀
I failed to do it on my own native language Romanian, but I got it from first try in my second language English. So I think Duolingo doesn't really translate that well for the other languages as is does for English, and it did had some weird ways of saying things in Romanian.
I totally agree with you!
Same thing happened to me when I'm duolingoing my native language Indonesian, it really speaks like a robot
Duolingo is more permissive and has much more data in English, so that would explain why sentences make more sense in other languages
2:59 that's a confusing thing if you do multiple language on duolingo-- the smaller courses will only be checking your grammer on those exercises, so you can rush through, but now a few of the bigger courses like french are also testing your understanding of the sentences. So the habits you pick up and reinforce in dutch and romanian courses (or doing duolingo french a few years ago) will nowadays loose you hearts in courses like french
Thanks for your comment! 😊 You’re right, Duolingo’s approach can vary between languages.
Comment as-tu travaillé ton accent, honnêtement sans le titre j'aurais jamais deviné que tu sois un francophone natif.
Merci ça fait plaisir en tout cas. J'pense que le fait d'avoir voyagé en Australie plus jeune m'a beaucoup aidé et surtout le fait de parler anglais avec des natifs régulièrement
@@Jeelmin Je suis anglaise mais je réponds en français pour pratiquer car j'apprends le français. Je savais que tu étais français quand j'ai entendu ton accent, mais je sais que c'est plus difficile d' identifier un accent pour les francophones. Néanmoins, tu parles bien l'anglais et tout le monde a une sorte d'accent de toute façon.
(Je suis désolée s'il y a des erreurs dans mon commentaire)
Jeelmin this video was very funny! But what is your recommendation for other tools someone can use to learn ‘native’ French?
Thx for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video
I think one of the best ways would be to speak with native French people, watch online courses (RUclips, etc.) and practice every day, watch French movies (in French of course haha) and TV shows and if you do all this regularly, you will improve very quickly.
I hope that'll help. 😉
Did you autotune your audio? Seems very artifact-y
Yeah, I used Adobe Enhance but maybe I didn't need it 😅
@@Jeelmin just throw compressor on your voice and that's it, maybe a little bit of de-esser right after
7:15
- Los simpsons en español de latam: Uhlala, el garage, señor francés. Ay sí, cómo no
- Homero: ¿ Y cómo se dice entonces?
- Moe: Parqueadero
I'm fluent in Esperanto
Nice 😊
Very fun video 😂😂
Thank you very much I’m glad you think so!
Hello, tu es canadien ? Parce que j'ai eu un doute sur ton accent :P
Do I have have a Canadian accent?
@@Jeelmin Je ne sais pas je n'arrive pas à le définir clairement. Je suis en revanche sûr d'une chose, c'est que ce n'est pas un accent de France métropolitaine 😄
Jellmin còme manazàs
Why does the voice sound AI-translated?
No idea, but it shouldn't happen anymore in the future :)
Report answers you're a native
I am
Hello! 😀
Hello! 😊