I tried using Duolingo a couple years back when I started learning French, then switched to other traditional methods (classroom study, playing video games in French, reading, RUclips etc.). Now that I got to B1/B2, I tried it again, and had the same issues as jeelmin. It's just not good pedagogically. 1) It fails you on trivial things - typos and misspellings, incorrect gender (I don't think it really matters at B1/B2 whether you say "un marrais" or "une marrais", or whatever) etc. OK, suppose you WANT to memorize genders. But instead of drilling on your gaps in knowledge, you'll just waste time answering questions you already answered before correctly, thus wasting your time. Just use flashcards with words that are difficult! 2) It doesn't allow you to practice relevant skills in general. Instead of thinking which word to put in the sentence about "une presse libre", just read an article from Le Parisien. Because in real world you might need to read an article, or a book, and not think about which word from the list of 5 to put in the empty space in a sentence. It doesn't train your listening abilities (AI voices are awful). It doesn't train your speech. And neither writing - despite having exercises where you write sentences, it fails you on nonsense like in the video, and doesn't provide a feedback (but I actually think ChatGPT is good when it comes to reviewing and grading your essays). It is frustrating, it wastes your time, it barely teaches you a language - I don't understand why it is so popular. And I heard mobile app is even worse. And they removed the discussion sections where you could ask your questions about grammar.
I failed to do it on my own native language Romanian, but I got it from first try in my second language English. So I think Duolingo doesn't really translate that well for the other languages as is does for English, and it did had some weird ways of saying things in Romanian.
2:59 that's a confusing thing if you do multiple language on duolingo-- the smaller courses will only be checking your grammer on those exercises, so you can rush through, but now a few of the bigger courses like french are also testing your understanding of the sentences. So the habits you pick up and reinforce in dutch and romanian courses (or doing duolingo french a few years ago) will nowadays loose you hearts in courses like french
Merci ça fait plaisir en tout cas. J'pense que le fait d'avoir voyagé en Australie plus jeune m'a beaucoup aidé et surtout le fait de parler anglais avec des natifs régulièrement
Thx for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video I think one of the best ways would be to speak with native French people, watch online courses (RUclips, etc.) and practice every day, watch French movies (in French of course haha) and TV shows and if you do all this regularly, you will improve very quickly. I hope that'll help. 😉
I tried using Duolingo a couple years back when I started learning French, then switched to other traditional methods (classroom study, playing video games in French, reading, RUclips etc.). Now that I got to B1/B2, I tried it again, and had the same issues as jeelmin. It's just not good pedagogically.
1) It fails you on trivial things - typos and misspellings, incorrect gender (I don't think it really matters at B1/B2 whether you say "un marrais" or "une marrais", or whatever) etc. OK, suppose you WANT to memorize genders. But instead of drilling on your gaps in knowledge, you'll just waste time answering questions you already answered before correctly, thus wasting your time. Just use flashcards with words that are difficult!
2) It doesn't allow you to practice relevant skills in general. Instead of thinking which word to put in the sentence about "une presse libre", just read an article from Le Parisien. Because in real world you might need to read an article, or a book, and not think about which word from the list of 5 to put in the empty space in a sentence. It doesn't train your listening abilities (AI voices are awful). It doesn't train your speech. And neither writing - despite having exercises where you write sentences, it fails you on nonsense like in the video, and doesn't provide a feedback (but I actually think ChatGPT is good when it comes to reviewing and grading your essays).
It is frustrating, it wastes your time, it barely teaches you a language - I don't understand why it is so popular. And I heard mobile app is even worse. And they removed the discussion sections where you could ask your questions about grammar.
I failed to do it on my own native language Romanian, but I got it from first try in my second language English. So I think Duolingo doesn't really translate that well for the other languages as is does for English, and it did had some weird ways of saying things in Romanian.
I totally agree with you!
Same thing happened to me when I'm duolingoing my native language Indonesian, it really speaks like a robot
Duolingo is more permissive and has much more data in English, so that would explain why sentences make more sense in other languages
2:59 that's a confusing thing if you do multiple language on duolingo-- the smaller courses will only be checking your grammer on those exercises, so you can rush through, but now a few of the bigger courses like french are also testing your understanding of the sentences. So the habits you pick up and reinforce in dutch and romanian courses (or doing duolingo french a few years ago) will nowadays loose you hearts in courses like french
Thanks for your comment! 😊 You’re right, Duolingo’s approach can vary between languages.
Very fun video 😂😂
Thank you very much I’m glad you think so!
Did you autotune your audio? Seems very artifact-y
Yeah, I used Adobe Enhance but maybe I didn't need it 😅
Comment as-tu travaillé ton accent, honnêtement sans le titre j'aurais jamais deviné que tu sois un francophone natif.
Merci ça fait plaisir en tout cas. J'pense que le fait d'avoir voyagé en Australie plus jeune m'a beaucoup aidé et surtout le fait de parler anglais avec des natifs régulièrement
Jeelmin this video was very funny! But what is your recommendation for other tools someone can use to learn ‘native’ French?
Thx for your comment. I'm glad you liked the video
I think one of the best ways would be to speak with native French people, watch online courses (RUclips, etc.) and practice every day, watch French movies (in French of course haha) and TV shows and if you do all this regularly, you will improve very quickly.
I hope that'll help. 😉
I'm fluent in Esperanto
Nice 😊
Hello! 😀
Hello! 😊
Why does the voice sound AI-translated?
No idea, but it shouldn't happen anymore in the future :)