I love cycling content, but for the last couple of years it’s all the same and I can’t sit and watch a full video anymore. This “couch to hero” is FANTASTIC content. So good to get the insight from an all time hitter in such a casual fun way. Watched both videos end to end easily. Good work Horners
@@ChrisHornerCyclingfor sure Chris. Keep it coming. So many video topics are majoring in the minors. The minutia that won’t move the needle for the average guy. Being reminded of the things that can really help, in a practical easy to implement way is gold.
Really like seeing these progression videos. Maximize this opportunity, Garrett, you're one lucky man. You're a great dad, Chris. Love seeing that solid father/son thing flourish. 👍
I'm happy for Garrett and it's awesome seeing his comments on here that he seems to have an appreciation for how lucky he is to have such a great relationship with his dad. Yes, it's cool that he can bond with Chris through cycling, which is what most of us cycling fans here can only dream of, but it seems like they found things to do together before Garrett started getting more into cycling and it's great that Chris never pushed him into it. Props to both of you!
Chris, I don’t think just anyone could do this. Garrett has a natural cyclist body, and most certainly has inherited superior genes from you. Bravo, boys! 🦋👊
That could be a possibility. Maybe one day in future I will get a non Horner newbie that really wants to get fast quickly and then we can test it again 😂👊
I was going to make the same comment. I'm doubtful if this massive amount of mileage build up would work for an average person. Garret has the physique of a distance runner and the genetics of a world class cyclist.
San Diego is a magical place. Great ride love all your videos and your opinions are perfect I look forward to the show and am exited for 2025 Butterfly and all other shows. Great job guys. Love seeing the tube patch there are a few of us believers that use em and save em. Two thumbs up, Mr. Horner.
Cool video. Good to see you Boys back. I noticed you both use the older style Fizik saddles. Do you prefer those to a saddle with a cutout? Always great content.
Great to see the route on Strava!!! Going out to San Diego for my annual snowbirding vacation. Great to see some new routes...and that I always ride by your friends place! We always stay right off Carmel Mountain Road.
Great video. I carry Ridenow tpu tubes as spares because 3 pack into the space that one butyl tube takes. And on Amazon they're close to $7-10 each. They can also be patched.
Just wild to think about being a new young strong rider with all the knowledge available now on nutrition, rest, etc. All the stupid mistakes we all made back in the 80's, thinking they were helping us get faster. These guys can jump right past that and begin fueling like Pogi.
Chris, I remember going to the tour Dupont in early 90's. You were riding for low budget Nutrafig. I saw you and your team sitting around a ragged team van and u guys were sitting in beach lounge chairs. This was years before you went to Europe with LFDJ and long before you would win a Vuelta.
Does Garrett know he’s the apprentice or does he think the comments are just a bit of fun 😂? Horners corner producing some top content. Hope we get to see Garrett do more training and who knows compete in a race with the channel covering it. Like to see what cyclists do to prevent muscle cramps and soreness after these long rides too.
If you are on the couch watching this now don't get frustrated if you don't progress as fast. G has youth, genes and weight on his side. And a frickin grand tour winner on the front... But you will get there!
Love the new videos Chris, congrats Garrett 100 is a great accomplishment. Chris love you’re putting your rides on Strava now, gives me motivation living in RB.. You guys come do Pendleton next year for a little fun 🤙
Hey I have that same exact Cannondale synapse, same color, but with ultegra 11s. It’s a comfortable fun bike to ride in Brazil. Also, kudos for you guys . My son is only a baby now but I hope to do something similar with him in the future (possibly in the Alps or just anywhere actually! )😅 cheers
Excellent content presented in a very friendly way. Equipment question: would Gatorskin tires have helped prevent the flats without being too heavy for this ride?
All this lacked was some John Tesh Tour de France music as Chris and Garrett climbed the Alps of Southern California en route to a glorious stage victory. 😀
Way to go Garrett! 👍 Way to calmly handle the flats. Think about glueless Park Tool patches. Have used them for decades and they work on latex or butyl. Have run tubes with 3 before replacing.
LOOKS great ! I never need a tool to bring up a tire on a rim....just working with a 1,5m rope. What is the diffrence in drinking and food of the old men and the young boy how much more does the "old" guy need ;-) ?? Wonderful Landscape !!! And cool weather
I believe it’s pretty even still between us when counting calories thru out a training day. But I enjoy eating whereas Garrett is less enthusiastic about it so I eat more off the bike then he does. 🤔👍
Are road bike tires so susceptible to flats?I bought a cross bike a year ago and never had a flat. Was thinking about putting some road tires on, but 😅
I started after my military career at 24 years old. The career included one or two mrathon and a month long 300 miles or more. It was called Paddies March. It stared 17 June 1977 in Normady France in memory of the British/American invasion of France to fight the German/Axis army. I tried running long distance, but at 6 feet 165 lbs I found a much better choice of bicycling. When I was 30-35 years of age I started long distance bicycle at my best solo pace. I thought I too old and with 4 children and 1 wife and ajob to learn pack riding.
I’m curious about something regarding structuring this kind of training. In the first video Chris said a few times that this was just riding without intervals or hard efforts…but those climbs looked non-trivial! How do you delineate what’s “hard riding” from significant climbs?
Dad is more qualified to give an explanation, but during this ride we just went off of how I felt the whole day. I kept feeling better the more we rode and when we were on the climbs we just kept the pace steady and went my speed. Never spent any time FULLY in the "red" during the day, didn't do any big accelerations, and most importantly dad kept me from forgetting to eat or drink water so I never bonked or cramped. There were definitely some "hard efforts", during this ride and all my other ones, we just always made sure that I had time to recover from them on the ride or that they were close enough to home that I could recover on the couch. Some days had more hard efforts than others (the group ride days, for example), but we were careful for the first 100 mile day.
Hard riding would be an effort made during the ride so big that you would need time at a much slower pace to recover from that effort before returning to your steady pedaling pace that you can hold for most of the day. Put very simply Garrett was never at his max except when we were very very close to home. 🤔👊
They never do their your job and seal the tithe flat on light road tires, ok sometimes they do but rarely. Plus they always make a mess everywhere after failing me. 😬👍
Chris you need to invest in puncture proof tires. They are bit slower but you don't need to change. In 5 years I punctured only once and my weight is probably sum of you two. 😅
We can’t run the weigh tires because we are doing the group rides (which are too fast for heavy tires) each weekend while we were on vacation. When I’m back home up in Bend Oregon I use the heavy tires often during the winter time. 👊👊
I probably bought my second bike there. But I visited so often Wess Drum gave me a job offer and said that I would get a discount on all my future cycling purchases. How could I say no. 😂👊👍🚴
Do you have enough miles in your legs that you can go from zero miles to 400 and be “fine” after it? Same for a century, can you just go and do it whenever you want? Just curious how that lifetime fitness thing goes when you have pro miles in you.
It normally takes me about three weeks of light training and then I can tick off some good training days. But not like in my younger days at 41 years of age. 😂👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Rim brakes and tubes, love it Chris! If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my retro grouch response to some of the new "technologies".
Horner is about as good a guide as you're going to get but the answer will always start the same: consistency, consistency, consistency, then go further.
I don’t have one that I can recommend but depending on your available time the most important thing you can do to get fitter is as lorent and big above have said already and that is to increase your time on the bike. I am assuming of course that you are 100% healthy and at an age capable of handling more time on the bike. 🤔👊🚴
One of the advantages of dad being so much stronger than me is that I can still do the watts I'd do by myself on his wheel, we're just going a lot faster than I would by myself. Just finished an almost 80 mile solo ride today at ~20mph avg speed and 165 watts, and I still feel fresh after (would have liked to ride 100 but it was 31 degrees out 🥶). The effort felt about the same as it did on dad's wheel during this video because he's so strong he could drop me whenever he wants 😂 The freshness comes from doing whatever training and eating dad tells me to do because he's a world-class coach and rider! But yes I agree if I were riding on the wheel of someone closer to my ability, the mileage would be a LOT easier than by myself in the wind 👍
Garrett is correct about the power difference between us which shows that he could have completed a 100 miles with or without me. I just saved him 30-45 mins. The video was originally made to show that a new rider could go and do a Grand Fondo type event with a short window of training before it or finish a 100 miles on his own at his pace. If you look at Garrett’s Strava record you can see that Garrett had been training about 80 miles solo already before this day. 🤔👊👊🚴
I have almost zero idea of where you rode!! San Diego has thousands of miles of rural or protected bike lanes from Mexican border and throughout areas North,! Chris Horner used to train in East County.. so many many miles of challenging mountain rides and all connections between North and East county.. start in Alpine.. and much of the central corridor is completely covered in bike paths..if you follow San Diego cycling scene, hundreds of capable, quality racers from all ages and gender.. and cross people are everywhere so gravel, mountain bike and triathletes are everywhere.. And if want to not see any cars East county offers up hours of riding on rural roads.
@@randycallow3736 I rode Mt Palomar and around Pacific beach to UCSD and around. My friends who live there seem to repeat the same routes. The Palomar approach was hell. The climb itself was very cool. Yes Limited sample size but Chris' video is mostly highways too. And friends here in norcal who ride there said the same thing
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Chris blocks the wind and changes flats, sign me up for that ride🤣
Yup I'm a lucky guy 😜
Hehehe. I cleaned the bike also. 😂👊
I love cycling content, but for the last couple of years it’s all the same and I can’t sit and watch a full video anymore. This “couch to hero” is FANTASTIC content. So good to get the insight from an all time hitter in such a casual fun way. Watched both videos end to end easily. Good work Horners
Glad you're liking it! Definitely keeps me motivated to hear it 👊😁
Happy to hear you enjoyed the videos Alex. 👊👊
@@alexswan7255 totally agree!
Absolutely flipping awesome content lads ...... Keep this sort of stuff coming ..... Well done young fella
@@ChrisHornerCyclingfor sure Chris. Keep it coming. So many video topics are majoring in the minors. The minutia that won’t move the needle for the average guy. Being reminded of the things that can really help, in a practical easy to implement way is gold.
My kid is only 3 and I cant wait for the day he wants to ride a 100 with me🙏 Lucky man CH! Well done Garrett
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Chris, you have raised a super nice man in Garret - bravo to you! Good job Garret!
Thanks, Robert!! 🫶
Thanks for the comment 👊👊
Proud father
And an appreciative son
This is so beautiful ❤
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Really like seeing these progression videos. Maximize this opportunity, Garrett, you're one lucky man. You're a great dad, Chris. Love seeing that solid father/son thing flourish. 👍
That's the plan! Having a lot of fun with it 👊👊
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You’re killing it, G!…Keep the rubber side down!
Snickers and coke for the win! Getting that latter out of traffic was a good move, probably saved a life, excellent job.
That ladder was seriously in a bad place. 😬👍
Thanks for sharing this Video !! Garret Killed it!
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Great ride Garrett! You have a pretty amazing dad!! Chris, you must be a very proud papa right now!
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Nice work you two 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I'm happy for Garrett and it's awesome seeing his comments on here that he seems to have an appreciation for how lucky he is to have such a great relationship with his dad. Yes, it's cool that he can bond with Chris through cycling, which is what most of us cycling fans here can only dream of, but it seems like they found things to do together before Garrett started getting more into cycling and it's great that Chris never pushed him into it. Props to both of you!
This Boy's a natural. Plus came in young & lean.
Being lean helped a ton. 👍👊💪
These vids are very nice to watch!!
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Hahah. Kid dancing up the mountain. Those are Horner genes. Great job Garrett - 19mi/hr avg is awesome for 100mi.
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Great stuff! Congrat's Garrett on your first Century!
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Congratulations Chris and Garrett
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Piece of cake ,Garrett! Well done! The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.
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The intro to this video reminds me a bit of the Californians of SNL. Thanks Chris nice video. Congrats Garret
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Hi Chris, you passed by me in Del Mar on a Saturday Ride in December. I ride with SDBC D-1 route.
SDBC. My old racing club. 👊👊
Super cool riding with the Horners…they were very welcoming! Awesome video Garrett!
Really good and informative video, love the father and son interaction and on the fly flat fixin and road cleanup
Chris, I don’t think just anyone could do this. Garrett has a natural cyclist body, and most certainly has inherited superior genes from you. Bravo, boys! 🦋👊
That could be a possibility. Maybe one day in future I will get a non Horner newbie that really wants to get fast quickly and then we can test it again 😂👊
I was going to make the same comment. I'm doubtful if this massive amount of mileage build up would work for an average person. Garret has the physique of a distance runner and the genetics of a world class cyclist.
Great video guys! Love seeing father and son doing this!
San Diego is a magical place. Great ride love all your videos and your opinions are perfect I look forward to the show and am exited for 2025 Butterfly and all other shows. Great job guys. Love seeing the tube patch there are a few of us believers that use em and save em. Two thumbs up, Mr. Horner.
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Ah the video years ago about emergency tire repair out on the road 🤗. Garrett is the man 😊
well done team Horner you both crushed it❤
Chris. Great video and Garrett was riding great. Have fun
Cool video. Good to see you Boys back. I noticed you both use the older style Fizik saddles. Do you prefer those to a saddle with a cutout? Always great content.
Love this! Way to go Garrett!
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Garrett, nicely done. Coaches don’t come much better than the boss, CH. 👊🏻
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Great videos lately. Great to see y’all rolling on mechanical groupos and you with rim brakes🤙. I love it.
Great to see the route on Strava!!! Going out to San Diego for my annual snowbirding vacation. Great to see some new routes...and that I always ride by your friends place! We always stay right off Carmel Mountain Road.
Yep. That bike trail is a blessing. 👊👊
Excellent video and nice one Garrett
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Great video. I carry Ridenow tpu tubes as spares because 3 pack into the space that one butyl tube takes. And on Amazon they're close to $7-10 each. They can also be patched.
Thanks for that info. 👊👊
Just wild to think about being a new young strong rider with all the knowledge available now on nutrition, rest, etc. All the stupid mistakes we all made back in the 80's, thinking they were helping us get faster. These guys can jump right past that and begin fueling like Pogi.
Exactly. The internet has changed it all while we had to learn the hard way. 😂👊
Chris, I remember going to the tour Dupont in early 90's. You were riding for low budget Nutrafig. I saw you and your team sitting around a ragged team van and u guys were sitting in beach lounge chairs. This was years before you went to Europe with LFDJ and long before you would win a Vuelta.
Love this Chris… 😎🙌🏽
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19 mph average for 100 miles is awesome!
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Does Garrett know he’s the apprentice or does he think the comments are just a bit of fun 😂? Horners corner producing some top content. Hope we get to see Garrett do more training and who knows compete in a race with the channel covering it. Like to see what cyclists do to prevent muscle cramps and soreness after these long rides too.
Hehehe. 😂👍👊
Eesh that ladder, that could've ended badly for someone, nice job
Great job Garret! ❤ Boooya! He laughs like you Chris! 😂
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So wholesome! Happy for both of you. Hopefully next ride will be flat free.
It was. 😂👊👍🚴
If you are on the couch watching this now don't get frustrated if you don't progress as fast. G has youth, genes and weight on his side. And a frickin grand tour winner on the front... But you will get there!
Good job, guys.
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tubes?? Surprised no tubeless!
I hate tubeless with race tires on the road bike. On the gravel or MTB bike I’m good with it. 👊👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling por que? I (knock wood) just plug and go - if needed. many punctures just seal.
Love this series. Keep them coming!
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you two are motivating me to finally get out and ride myself!
Go get it!! Thanks for watching 👊
Good luck and enjoy 👊👊
Great video! How is it possible to achieve 5 hours with nearly 200 watts after completing several rides? 😮
Great job Garret! ❤ Boooya!
Booya ❤️👊
Love the new videos Chris, congrats Garrett 100 is a great accomplishment. Chris love you’re putting your rides on Strava now, gives me motivation living in RB.. You guys come do Pendleton next year for a little fun 🤙
Thanks! I kept hearing about the Pendleton group ride while we were down there. Gotta check it out next time we're in town 👊
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Good work guys! I see a proud dad in the video! Looking forward to more content.
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6:31 Some old school patching here....still works great
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Chris you should stick around for tomorrow’s ride. SDBC ride tomorrow in La Jolla they have some elite riders there.
I was on SDBC way back in the day. I know them well. 🤔👊
Rock that hair while you can boy, looking at your dad you know whats coming.
Known for a few years now 😂 I got some to lose still before I go aero 😜
You get your hair from your Mom _ Congrats! 🙌
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Imma go give Garrett some kudos on Strava ´COS KUDOS IS ALL THAT MATTERS
Hey I have that same exact Cannondale synapse, same color, but with ultegra 11s. It’s a comfortable fun bike to ride in Brazil. Also, kudos for you guys . My son is only a baby now but I hope to do something similar with him in the future (possibly in the Alps or just anywhere actually! )😅 cheers
Excellent content presented in a very friendly way. Equipment question: would Gatorskin tires have helped prevent the flats without being too heavy for this ride?
All this lacked was some John Tesh Tour de France music as Chris and Garrett climbed the Alps of Southern California en route to a glorious stage victory. 😀
Love Coozer....... great ride.
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Way to go Garrett! 👍 Way to calmly handle the flats.
Think about glueless Park Tool patches. Have used them for decades and they work on latex or butyl. Have run tubes with 3 before replacing.
I have tried them and had good out comes also. 👍
Love this video.
i wish i had a dad like you
LOOKS great ! I never need a tool to bring up a tire on a rim....just working with a 1,5m rope. What is the diffrence in drinking and food of the old men and the young boy how much more does the "old" guy need ;-) ?? Wonderful Landscape !!! And cool weather
I believe it’s pretty even still between us when counting calories thru out a training day. But I enjoy eating whereas Garrett is less enthusiastic about it so I eat more off the bike then he does. 🤔👍
Are road bike tires so susceptible to flats?I bought a cross bike a year ago and never had a flat. Was thinking about putting some road tires on, but 😅
Racks. Then you can take the treasures home. Maybe not a stepladder, though!
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Definitely some good genes 🧬
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Good job Garrett
Jonny 👊👊
Chapeau!
.Coke and Snickers should be sponsoring you Chris......kudos to Garret
Did Rich Meeker teach you the quick change or vice versa?
I started after my military career at 24 years old. The career included one or two mrathon and a month long 300 miles or more. It was called Paddies March. It stared 17 June 1977 in Normady France in memory of the British/American invasion of France to fight the German/Axis army. I tried running long distance, but at 6 feet 165 lbs I found a much better choice of bicycling. When I was 30-35 years of age I started long distance bicycle at my best solo pace. I thought I too old and with 4 children and 1 wife and ajob to learn pack riding.
Never to old. Almost never anyways. 👊👊
How do you not notice your ladder fell off your truck or car!! Nice work there!
I thought the same thing. 🤔😬👍
Awesome!
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I’m curious about something regarding structuring this kind of training. In the first video Chris said a few times that this was just riding without intervals or hard efforts…but those climbs looked non-trivial! How do you delineate what’s “hard riding” from significant climbs?
Dad is more qualified to give an explanation, but during this ride we just went off of how I felt the whole day. I kept feeling better the more we rode and when we were on the climbs we just kept the pace steady and went my speed. Never spent any time FULLY in the "red" during the day, didn't do any big accelerations, and most importantly dad kept me from forgetting to eat or drink water so I never bonked or cramped.
There were definitely some "hard efforts", during this ride and all my other ones, we just always made sure that I had time to recover from them on the ride or that they were close enough to home that I could recover on the couch. Some days had more hard efforts than others (the group ride days, for example), but we were careful for the first 100 mile day.
Hard riding would be an effort made during the ride so big that you would need time at a much slower pace to recover from that effort before returning to your steady pedaling pace that you can hold for most of the day.
Put very simply Garrett was never at his max except when we were very very close to home. 🤔👊
I love these videos
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Astana ladder?
Why not ride tubless?
They never do their your job and seal the tithe flat on light road tires, ok sometimes they do but rarely. Plus they always make a mess everywhere after failing me. 😬👍
What is your boy? A climber, sprinter, rolleur, or an all rounder? I am a specialist at eating Cheetos, watching TV and sleeping.
Chris you need to invest in puncture proof tires. They are bit slower but you don't need to change. In 5 years I punctured only once and my weight is probably sum of you two. 😅
We can’t run the weigh tires because we are doing the group rides (which are too fast for heavy tires) each weekend while we were on vacation. When I’m back home up in Bend Oregon I use the heavy tires often during the winter time. 👊👊
@ChrisHornerCycling do light tires make really so much difference?
Bought my first bike at Hal's
I probably bought my second bike there. But I visited so often Wess Drum gave me a job offer and said that I would get a discount on all my future cycling purchases. How could I say no. 😂👊👍🚴
Couser Canyon, sleeper climb👊
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My brother said there’s a fire near his house in Bonita.
Rim brakes. Nice.
Wouldn't mind drafting a Vuelta winner... 😀
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Do you have enough miles in your legs that you can go from zero miles to 400 and be “fine” after it? Same for a century, can you just go and do it whenever you want? Just curious how that lifetime fitness thing goes when you have pro miles in you.
It normally takes me about three weeks of light training and then I can tick off some good training days. But not like in my younger days at 41 years of age. 😂👊
Inner tubes😂😂😂😂
I don’t like tubeless still. 🐝👊👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Rim brakes and tubes, love it Chris! If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my retro grouch response to some of the new "technologies".
Is there a good training guide you would recommend? I'm currently riding 10 miles 3-4 times a week and would love to improve!
simply ride a lot more, no structure necessary
Horner is about as good a guide as you're going to get but the answer will always start the same: consistency, consistency, consistency, then go further.
Choose a GT winner as a parent.
I don’t have one that I can recommend but depending on your available time the most important thing you can do to get fitter is as lorent and big above have said already and that is to increase your time on the bike. I am assuming of course that you are 100% healthy and at an age capable of handling more time on the bike. 🤔👊🚴
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Anybody would be fresh at the finish if someone else changed all the flats. 🤣
Gotta set up tubeless
I hate tubeless on the road with race tires. Really hate them. 😬👍
The number of extra tubes carried = 3. 😆 Ladders = 0.
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fresh because he was behind people. mileage is completely different if you break your own wind
One of the advantages of dad being so much stronger than me is that I can still do the watts I'd do by myself on his wheel, we're just going a lot faster than I would by myself.
Just finished an almost 80 mile solo ride today at ~20mph avg speed and 165 watts, and I still feel fresh after (would have liked to ride 100 but it was 31 degrees out 🥶). The effort felt about the same as it did on dad's wheel during this video because he's so strong he could drop me whenever he wants 😂
The freshness comes from doing whatever training and eating dad tells me to do because he's a world-class coach and rider!
But yes I agree if I were riding on the wheel of someone closer to my ability, the mileage would be a LOT easier than by myself in the wind 👍
Garrett is correct about the power difference between us which shows that he could have completed a 100 miles with or without me. I just saved him 30-45 mins. The video was originally made to show that a new rider could go and do a Grand Fondo type event with a short window of training before it or finish a 100 miles on his own at his pace. If you look at Garrett’s Strava record you can see that Garrett had been training about 80 miles solo already before this day. 🤔👊👊🚴
3:08 European highway.
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That's not your son it's your twin, plus some hair😉
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TPU... tougher less flats
I like my tires light and fast. 👊👊
I think San Diego is overrated, it's all highways, which is super stressful and dangerous, not conducive to relaxing bike rides
Yeah- and Newscum really blows.
I did bwr a few years ago..... Totally different feeling.... As in amazing..... But gravel. Otherwise you're probably right about SD.
I have almost zero idea of where you rode!! San Diego has thousands of miles of rural or protected bike lanes from Mexican border and throughout areas North,! Chris Horner used to train in East County.. so many many miles of challenging mountain rides and all connections between North and East county.. start in Alpine.. and much of the central corridor is completely covered in bike paths..if you follow San Diego cycling scene, hundreds of capable, quality racers from all ages and gender.. and cross people are everywhere so gravel, mountain bike and triathletes are everywhere.. And if want to not see any cars East county offers up hours of riding on rural roads.
@@randycallow3736 I rode Mt Palomar and around Pacific beach to UCSD and around. My friends who live there seem to repeat the same routes. The Palomar approach was hell. The climb itself was very cool. Yes Limited sample size but Chris' video is mostly highways too. And friends here in norcal who ride there said the same thing
Gaimon's videos are the absolute worst with cars flying by at 60 mph all day. Yes that is LA, not SD. You can barely hear Gaimon speaking into the mic