Why You Will FAIL In A Cyber Security Career!
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- Why will you fail in a Cyber Security career?
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Don’t become a statistic of why people fail in Cyber Security careers! Throughout my career in Cyber Security I have been able to identify five consistent reasons why people are simply not cut out for the field. Believe it or not, none of the reasons why people are unsuccessful have anything to do with mental capacity or not being “smart enough.” We need more people to be successful in helping secure companies so it’s important that you know what’s required for a beneficial career.
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Can you talk about starting this career from scratch at ur 40s ! What do you think ? I subscribed & liked ! u own me an answer bro
@@Bronx-NY same here man I'm in my 40s . Id like to say I've never fully succeeded in anything . There are flash in my life toward this path .
@@Bronx-NY you can do it and you will succeed , this like Bruce Lee path where he train in dojo and while other students finish their day and go to rest he go back home and master what he learned and add couple moves of his own. After some tears picture start getting clear and you will find yourself in it and what exactly your good at.
Doing it for the money. And it interests me.
Both of those are great reasons. Remember the money will come in this field so don't suffer through areas you don't enjoy.
You obviously need to be curious and want to learn the subject that you're getting into. Majority of everything people study requires you to learn on your own time, like basicly everything.
There is definitely a difference between passive curiosity and active curiosity. Just like any field, sometimes people go into it for the wrong reasons and end up disappointed. Cyber Security is different from a lot of fields in that things change daily versus many other career fields that might do things the same way for decades. This means people have to be willing to continuously learn if they want to be successful.
@@JonGoodCyber other than constant learning is there something else that makes it different from other fields? im a 9th grader and i've done a lot of research on this most ppl say its not that bad and its worth it cuz they make a lot of money. but i haven't really heard a lot of ppl say anything bad abt it. can you tell me some of the disadvantages?
Money really shouldn't be your primary factor on a specific job because eventually the enjoyment of getting paid a certain amount will fade and you'll be in a job you hate. Documentation is something that a lot of people don't enjoy and also sometimes people assume that they won't deal with people but you will deal with users frequently in most technology jobs.
@@JonGoodCyber im not intrested cuz they make a lot of money. i mean yea they do make a lot but i always wanted to work with the law enforcement in some way get down the bad guys and stuff. that's why im kind of interested in this field. I don't think i'll mind dealing with ppl that much. Thank you for explaining tho!
Your Camera Autofocus thinks that your mike is more improtant than your face
Thank you for the feedback I will make sure that is fixed.
Mike Sudol thanks Mic
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It took me five years of trying before I finally found a role as a SOC analyst. Basically, in addition to lots of self study and getting a security+ cert and learning some basic red hat skills, years of fruitless applications to soc roles, I found a service desk role at a managed services company. I went in as a service desk tech and after about two years later I was promoted to SOC analyst.
Excellent! Getting into a SOC can definitely be one of the more challenging areas to break into since it typically requires a decent amount of technical skills and knowledge. How did you like working for an MSSP?
@@JonGoodCyber I enjoyed it. I learned a lot. Since it was the night shift, It had enough of a work load to give me lots of experience with Active Directory and Azure .
I could take this a lot more seriously if he was in focus at all
Thank you for the feedback!
Started as help desk. Now I help the cybersecurity person to ensure systems are compliant. I also help with the other soft skills. I am not there yet. I know I will be soon. I plan on taking CISSP this year.
Awesome sounds like solid experience. Good luck working towards the CISSP! Let me know how it goes.
Hi, what skills or experience did you require to get a job at a help desk?
@@jonjon2645 I had security plus and can do attitude
This video has been very helpful, thank you. As someone debating a career path in this field, this video helps give some more input on the idea
I'm glad that I could help and you're welcome!
Thank you! I Start my classes in a few weeks! This video was very informative!
You're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's always an exciting time.
the reason i was thinking about it because this seems like the future of warfare. and it seems like it’ll be a valuable asset in the future in general
Cyber Security definitely impacts nearly all companies and sectors and the need is growing by the day.
Looking at getting into the industry and really just researching if it is for me or not.
Glad to have you and thank you for viewing!
Same
The reason why I wanted to get into cyber security is because I love learning and understanding how things work and following up with my passion to IT and technology I believe this would be the right path for me. I also love helping people out and working with people to solve problems. I hope those qualities let me expand in the cyber security section
Awesome and thank you for sharing!
I just like the pay checks.
Long Video so I made a list for everyone intersted in a video break-down and I also gave my opinion.
Reason #1: People don't really understand what Cyber Security is.
Reason #2: People are not putting time to self-study. Which is a major mistake as you never stop learning even though you might have a degree, apprenticeship, internship or experience. This is not just Cyber Security focused because every job requires extra learning and self-improvement during your career.
Reason #3: Thinking out of the box. A lot of people don't do that and the hackers do.
Reason #4: Unable to work with co-workers. Intersting and understandable point of view since people might not want to work with every department.
Reason #5: People cannot accept failure. Agreed, failure is part of the journey.
I'll drop a comment with #CYBER because you gave away some good points and your video needs more views. Great video Jon, keep up the work.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Honestly I was being really indecisive on what I wanted to pursue as a degree and a fellow cyber security and IT crew at my place of work egged me on and now I'm started my classes in cyber in a couple of weeks. But the senior is also an engineer and he said if I joined the program he would go out of his way to help me and take me under his wing. And so here I am, I just found your channel and I like how you don't sugar coat it like a lot of them do. Thanks for the good content! 👍
That's definitely an advantage to have a mentor so early on in your journey! I'm glad that you enjoy the content and honestly I just want to be transparent with people so they know the truth. That way they aren't surprised by the good or the bad.
Awesome content. Thank you so much. All the best!!
Glad you liked it!
Hi Jon, I'm doing IBM CySA Intermediate then CompTIA because I wanna make businesses safer and I'm tired of being unemployed. Thanks for support.
You'll have to let me know how that goes. It's interesting that IBM is adding CySA+ to their requirement because that is definitely not normal for certification vendors.
Currently, working as a support analyst for over 10-years and a bachelors degree in computer information systems. Went back to college to pursue a dual-major in information security and assurance, and cybersecurity. Given that security is vital within an organization, I went back to college to gain more knowledge and needed a challenge with a rewarding career and great prospects. Cheers!
Awesome stuff! What are you working on next? Certifications?
Jon Good - Starting with the CompTIA certs: Network+ and Security+, leading to CCNA and CISSP.
Good stuff and good luck on your journey!
Jon Good - Thanks, I am excited to start the semester next week. If it was not for Covid-19, I would not have gone back to school better myself.
@@jlprescott7243 No if it wasn't...…
You are doing great already and will get your goals achieved at the right time if you quit not. Kudos.
I want to be the person who defends people's properties. Because in my perspective I think I will help people and at the same time I will get money.
What exactly do you mean by "defending people's properties?"
Considering going back to my local CC so I can finally transfer and this is one of the degrees that peaks my interest.
Wonderful! It's a great time to be getting into the industry.
@Benjamin mature
Jon, After 15 years of welding and a layoff (1 and 1/2 yrs ago), I found myself pursuing a Computer Science w/a focus on Cybersecurity degree. I am nearly 40 years with a young family and must maintain my current job, so internships are a "no-go" for me. Fortunately, I have a job working for a local municipality as a creator/publisher for their GIS software (no prior experience or training, I have no clue how I obtained this position). My best friend is the IT director for the municipality and has agreed to let me work with the city's systems, when I have advanced a little further with my education ( I am only a year and a half in and am just starting my CSIS 100 course). What are some other experiences that I should ask of my IT Director friend?
Honestly any experiences he is willing to allow would be beneficial. I would also ask him if there are any areas that they struggle with because you might be able to help enough that he would want to hire you onto the staff.
HOP SING TAKING YOUR JOB FOOL
And I was gonna go into welding but it seems it's not worth it
@@itsDjjayyArt it's not worth it at all. 22 year old welder here
Hello Jon I am 19 years old. Working a 9-5 right now. Not going to school for anything at the moment . I recently just found out about cyber security and it seems very interesting to me. Coming from somebody who doesent know very much about it at all where would you suggest I start .. I've been watching beginner videos/classes about cyber security on RUclips and taking notes on the terminology as well . Thanks for the video (:
I have a few things that I would do....first of all I would check out some of the "day in the life" videos about Cyber Security because they will give you a little more insight on what it's like day-to-day. Second, I would get a job in IT as soon as possible. Cyber Security is pretty difficult to break into most of the time if you don't have prior experience and this way you can build some foundational knowledge. I would also look at getting an A+ and Network+ because these will help you get into an IT (probably help desk) job. If you can get into an IT job without the A+, then you can probably skip it at that point. Last, I would grab a copy of my eBook ( www.jongood.com/newsletter/ ) because I have a full road map of certifications and things to learn. All the things I list will apply in IT so you will be traveling the same path either way for the first few years at least. Make sure to check out the rest of my videos because there is plenty of career advice and good information that will be applicable to your journey.
Great video! Quick question: How would I know that this is a field I want to get into if I have never gone hands on within the field and seen exactly what it is like?
Good question! The first step is to see if different things you hear about the field are interesting. Additionally, information technology and cyber security are similar in a lot of ways in that a natural curiosity is one of the most important traits you will need. You don't even need to get into the field to start exploring how to configure security settings and see if you enjoy it.
Wow, I been deliberating on a career path for years now, but with this video meant to dissuade people with inaccurate perceptions of this field. I felt inspired actually. I play an MMO and I have always been dying to know how technology makes the virtual world I live part of my life in possible. I think I really wanna give this career a try.
I believe in full transparency and the objective of this video is to make people aware of things to avoid or be aware of if they want to be successful, not to push people away from the career field. One of the worst things that can happen is if somebody spends all the time and effort required to break into the industry, only to find out that the career is completely different than they had pictured.
I am as focused for my cyber security career as the camera is on Jon xD
So extremely focused? Sweet!
Skillset is the biggest. I got the change to sit in on zoom chat with Dr. Kelly Hughes and she mentioned just that. You have diversify your skillset and knowledge.
Thank you for sharing!
You have very well described why I quit cyber. Too much self study is expected and you're doing it wrong if you don't live and breathe the subject matter. That's not me and I like to have a life. In my final cyber role I was marked down on performance reviews for not being inquisitive enough.
One thing you rightly pointed out is that too many people have tied "cybersecurity" to pentesting and red team hacking, or occasionally SOC work. A VERY small subset of people do this work and to be honest a lot of internal pentest teams are garbage and on very average pay. The real skill and money is in the peripatetic consultancy work.
It's like saying you want to be a "doctor" so you can then just walk into neurosurgery on day one. Nope - you are far more likely going to become a respiratory specialist, or a rheumatologist, or diagnose bowel issues in children.
My claim to fame at icebreaker events is that I'm the only person who ever quit the cyber industry for something else, meanwhile everyone else is bumrushing in.
Thank you for sharing. Luckily there are more roles that evolving and not everything requires as much intense studying as technical roles but it definitely is a career field where you can't rely on what you learned 10 years ago (maybe not even 5).
Hi mx bx, what field did you change into? If you don't mind me asking. I'm looking to study soon as well but can't figure out if this industry will chew me up and spit me out before I even get my foot in the door 😂
You should make a video on people like me and most others. We took the military route to get into Cyber Security, networking, analyst, programming, IT, web design exc...
I'm not sure I would say "most others" since a very small fraction of people serve in the military but it definitely is a path with some good advantages. Unfortunately, I don't have any personal experience with the military or knowledge of how it works but I will add it to the list as a potential idea if I can find a way to work it in with accurate information.
Jon Good Most off the guys in that field of the military. I mean
Hey great video.
Request-Please make a beginner's guide(learning resources, certifications, career map etc.) on blue team side of cyber security.
Thank you for the request! I will put that on my list.
@@JonGoodCyber thanks
Good content! May I suggest moving the microphone out of the middle of the frame so we can see your face.
Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! On my newer videos I did adjust the positioning lower so let me know if that is better. That particular microphone is meant to only pick up audio directly into it and to block out the noise coming from the sides so my positioning is fairly limited for the best audio quality.
Great video Jon. 👌
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Do you mind making a video on different roles in the cyber security? Example: pen testing, security analyst etc etc
Thank you for the feedback and support! I will add that request to the list.
@@JonGoodCyber did you ever make one? Thx
Well me and tens thousands of thousands of 18 year old kids who don’t do anything or know anything about computers, get training most effectively and fastest under the thumb of the military. Aim High and Fly Straight.
The military definitely has the right idea when it comes to getting people qualified for jobs. It's too bad all companies don't have the same philosophy on training because they might have a better shot at not getting hacked (as frequently).
I’m going onto my senior year studying Cyber a Defense & Information Assurance. I had plans to study abroad that took an arrow to the knee due to Covid so I’m taking a semester off. It’s been difficult finding an internship that’s more than basic IT. I have several years of IT work, but can’t find a position such as SOC that will hire me because of lack of experience. What should I do to better my chances of finding a career in my field after I graduate?
Hmm that's interesting on the internships...what were your actual job titles or responsibilities when working in IT? SOCs are definitely one of the more technical areas of Cyber Security which can be more difficult to land right out of the gate. Have you looked into certifications like CompTIA CySA+, Cisco Cyber Ops Associate, or Blue Team Level 1? All three of those are very relevant for SOC jobs but the BTL1 is a practical certification and could give you a little more street credibility even though it just came out this past summer. You can even try to expand the types of security jobs you are applying to because remember there are all kinds of different areas...security operations, compliance, security engineering, etc...and some are easier to break into than others.
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Thank you for watching!
Thanks this is literally me I feel like this just confirmed it for me . Been a nurse for 10 years I’m burnt out . I def think outside the box critical thinking and work well with others . Now that I think about it I use to override parental controls on all the computers in the house just to do it i know that’s not a big deal but as a 10 year old I think I was doing pretty good .
Burnout happens in a lot of career fields but if you have the desire and the motivation, cyber security is definitely a good field to be in right now.
really thankful for this knowledge ! ❤️
Happy to help!
#cyber love the content mate! And how much you reply to all the comments great job ! I’m looking to start a course in cyber security
Thank you for the feedback and support! Welcome to the community!
One thing I should mention that having certifications is good for checking marks on resume to get interview calls for getting hired skillset and experience matters the most plus decision making
Don't expect to get interview or job just by cert's having some hands on training or internship highlights the resume more remember many people who will apply are applying because they have those requirements but why HR would select a candidate depends on above factors 👍
The value of certifications is much more important early on in a career but it is correct that certifications are only one aspect of a qualified candidate.
@@JonGoodCyber True candidates give too much attention on getting the certification rather than working on skills as they both are equally important
That Microphone is looking nice and sharp.
Thank you for the feedback! I'm always learning and working to improve my content.
Its bloody horrid, overhead much better
I agree with all of this!!! I’ve seen a lot of people come into the industry that get very complacent just because their first roles pays them good and I hate it. My background is being a security analyst And what I’m finding out is that some people are stuck in their ways. They’ll only try to learn how to use one SIEM instead of learning multiple SIEMS. They don’t think out of the box when it comes to triaging alerts it’s a mess. This was definitely a great video!
Unfortunately, complacency is a real thing in any career field. Continuous learning is a must to be successful so don't let others drag you down in your journey! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the feedback.
Jon Good right!! Things change in technology all of the time so it’s a must to continuously learn new things
Doing it cause I believe this is how I can protect people the best with who I am while providing me with a high paying job with low physical labor.
Thank you for sharing! It's a great time to be getting into the career field.
this is amazing. doing a term paper and powerpoint for where we plan on going with our concentration after graduation. Going CISCO and information security. learning a whole lot more about cyber security than ever before.
Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! It definitely can feel like you are drinking through a firehose when you first start because there is so much to learn but it gets better.
Q: Hey Jon. How's it going brother. So I have a question. As a kid until college, I was very good with computers, opening fixing, hacking some low level systems (for training), some coding (html php c++, some phython) all self-learned.
But I ended up with a career in law enforcement. I'm 31 now, and thinking about going back to tech world, quitting law enforcement.
Cybersecurity is definitely my choice, can you guide me in the right direction because I will be learning/getting certified WHILE having a rigorous full time job. I'm gonna quit only when I get a decent IT/cyber job.
What/how to do, what certs, programs, etc
I recommend checking out my free eBook ( jongood.com/getstarted/ ) where I provide a roadmap of skills and certifications to pursue. Of course "decent" IT/cyber job has different meanings for everybody but keep in mind that you're likely going to have to start somewhere and that very well could mean an entry level role like helpdesk, which some people don't find to be ideal. The good news is that things can move very quickly if you learn fast and aren't afraid to take on new challenges early.
Great content. Thank you for the information! #cybersecurity
Thanks for watching!
Hi Jon- I ran into your video and enjoyed it! Wondering two things- if you’ve never been a “techy” person, but are interested in this field, does it make sense to do if you never have been techy? And can this realm of work offer flexible schedules depending what path in cybersecurity? I am a mom of three and I still want to be present and have balance in life. I was a teacher and had the summers off, but I know it wouldn’t be quite like that. Hope my questions make sense. Thanks!
You certainly don't have to be a "techy" person to get into Cyber Security because most people are capable of learning what they need to know. With that being said, if you aren't interested in tech, you might not be as interested in the career field, which could lead to a lack of drive if you aren't careful. There are absolutely more flexible roles in Cyber Security and those tend to be the less technical roles (GRC, project management, etc.) when compared to operational roles (security operations or SOC jobs) that tend to work on shift schedules. Keep in mind, that you might not have a choice on how flexible the job is in the early stages of a Cyber Security career because you need the experience to qualify for the other jobs.
i failed at cybersec because i did not know the OS that well, but im still interested in cybersec even though i failed.
What do you mean that you failed? Did you have a job and it didn't work out? Regardless, this career field is all about growing your knowledge and continuing to evolve so stay with it!
In about 2 years i'm getting into a university to major in cybersecurity, i'm actually really interested in it unlike everything else i reviewed. And i think that it would be fun and would suit my lifestyle.
That's great just make sure that you learn the fundamentals and don't just focus on Cyber Security subjects. Computer Science degrees do work well in the Cyber Security field but frankly most jobs aren't going to require that level of programming knowledge if any at all. Additionally, a major flaw with Computer Science degrees is that they focus heavily on the development process and although security is growing its influence, most traditional degrees in Computer Science still lack the appropriate training.
@Benjamin why do you say that?? just curious
Congrats Jon! Great video, well done.
Thank you glad you enjoyed!
Q: Hey Jon, love your content. Been wanting to jump into a cybersecurity career for a while now. Just a quick question for ya: are there any roles in infosec where remote work is possible? As in work from home situation? As I know proximity to server is imp in CyberSec, thus just curious! Appreciate your response!!
There are absolutely remote job opportunities! Remote jobs however are far more competitive since location doesn't matter so they tend to be more difficult to land as a new professional. Also, brand new people can benefit a lot from being around more experienced staff so I tend to not recommend fully remote until you are at least a few years into the career field.
My college reserved a cybersecurity course for me. I didn't want to get that in the first place, my mother played mind games with me and I chose to put cybersecurity as one of the fields of my choice. I was left with only cybersecurity. So I really can't do much other than just get through college and consider better career fields next round.
Remember that it's YOUR CAREER so ultimately it's your responsibility to make the best decision for you. I'm not sure what you mean by "better career fields" because Cyber Security is a very high-growth, high-demand area but you certainly should do something that you enjoy.
Great video. I loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Jon I've been watching your content for a while and I really love your work. You put out some great points that can really be used while giving nterviews, you have been giving me more clarity on my purpose of being in cyber security. Keep dropping knowledge bombs I love how differently you put things out which really makes sense from a business point of view.
I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you are enjoying the content!
I wanna be cyber security professional for curiosity i read about and is so exciting, but i dont have experience in the area. I was studying astronomy instrumentation and doing practice in Software Defined Radio. Im beginning with CCNA.
Regards
Interesting career change! Many people, including myself, didn't start out with security being their first path so it definitely can be done.
@@JonGoodCyber thanks a lot for tour answer!
How can I really know I’m interested, without a large investment of time to figure out if I’d even really like the field? How does one go about finding out if they would be good at something without a large amount of research?
Do you find technology interesting? Do you like messing around with technology to see what's possible? Honestly, working in technology itself is a skill that can be improved over time as long as you are interested. Cyber Security itself might be more challenging to predict if you will like it so I would start by just looking at technology and IT in general. IT certifications like the A+ and Network+ from CompTIA are considered entry level for people without any experience and could give you a pretty good idea if you like the industry. Timewise you might be looking at a few months of studying and around $50 for study materials. If you want to try the certification exam after studying, you will spend another $300 or so. You can also watch "Day in the life" videos on sites like RUclips to see what certain jobs are like from actual professionals in the industry.
Well, I thought I really wanted this career... until I got into this discrete mathematics course...... Making me rethink getting my masters in CS
The math you have for Computer Science is not typically what we deal with in most areas of Cyber Security. With that being said, the CS degree looks good if you can make it through but the most ideal thing is that you at least finish a degree to check that box if nothing else.
@@JonGoodCyber Okay, thank god! lol
From your video on cyber security, it seems to relate in multi fields of analysts. Is there a BSIS for career analyst seeking to obtain multiple areas of concentrations? Also choices of colleges to obtain this degree in CS or more importantly as combination for other interests I have, as global security, , global history and cultural studies, terrorism, NCTC, relational factors and languages? Agree that one focus of study, without willingness to diversify is weakness for future career growth. I heard about 5 different fields that you covered as reasons to fail at a CS degree alone. Any colleges of choices? Or any degree paths as BSIS to collectively get this type of overall focus, or minors?
Most degrees will have a primary focus with the ability to get a minor or specialization in another area. It's going to be hard to be great in several major areas (compliance, SOC, penetration testing, etc.) but it's fairly common to be capable in several minor areas of a single major area. For example, if you are a penetration testing expert then you could know web applications, network penetration testing, etc....the main problem is that the major areas cover so much information and they don't always overlap, which makes it very difficult to excel in multiple areas. For recommended programs, I would look at the NSA Centers of Academic Excellence list ( www.nsa.gov/Academics/Centers-of-Academic-Excellence/ ) but you probably aren't going to find too many programs, if any, that combine the additional subjects you mentioned (global security, global history, etc.) with cyber security except possibly in the military.
I want to work in cyber security. So soon will go to university. :). Anyone who wants to work at cyber security good luck. You will do well if you work hard. :)
Thank you for sharing and watching!
Am a graphic designer but I really have passion for filmmaking. But getting equipments is high and cost , so am choosing a new career like cyber security . Hope am taking the right decision sir please?
If you enjoy learning about technologies and how to secure them then it will be a great choice. On the other hand, if you don't enjoy learning new stuff frequently, then it might not be a good choice but only you can make that determination.
Hi Jon I'm currently doing my last year in high school before going to uni. I'm not sure on wether i should do a BSc in Computer Science and then do a Masters in Cyber Security or a BSc in Cyber Security
My first piece of advice is to focus on one degree at a time. Multiple degrees sounds great but I would evaluate later if you actually want or need another degree. As far as the degrees that you mention, both areas of study will satisfy the requirement but Computer Science tends to be a more difficult area (heavy in math and programming), and the path is more geared towards development or application security. Basically if you don't like math or programming...or you don't want to work in development or application security...then it doesn't really make sense to go through the pain of that program. Likewise, if you prefer the Cyber Security route, you can always pickup a programming language or two outside of school.
Hey man, I decided to go back to school. I’m 28. Since I have my AA from when I was 22, I’m able to finish this degree in 4 years going part time. By the time I graduate I’ll be 32-33.
Does age affect my chances of making a career change into CS...?
I’ll still be young at 33, but man, people are cruel. Lol.
Age is not a factor. Honestly, there are plenty of people getting into the field that are older than that. Even at the age of 33, you probably have ~30+ years of work left to do which is plenty of time. The only downside is depending on what you get paid currently, you could end up making less initially but Cyber Security has a very high ceiling on pay.
Jon Good I’m a plumber. I’m pretty sure I’ll be happy with the salary in CS. Lol
Jon Good also, does one need to know coding? My python is pretty good, but are there any languages that are imperative to know to further excel?
Knowing coding/programming is helpful but for most positions it's not a requirement. Python is very popular, but for other languages it really depends on what you are looking to do. C, C++, Java, and PHP are probably some of the most common languages you will see other than Python.
Im going to be starting school 2 weeks from now with my major being cyber security. I'm pretty confident in general but one thing i'm not too confident about is the math related aspects of it. I barely completed pre-calculus.
Good luck! The math requirement varies from program to program so hopefully it's not too bad for you.
I’m currently came from a trade background, lead the DBIDS program for the visitor center in the military, and now pursuing a cyber security IT systems degree online, and even thought I’m doing everything and studying, I cannot grasp the languages and the systems, assignments, etc. My worst fear is me getting into a career field that I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m at a crossroad and really debating going back to a skilled trade school? Your honest opinion what would you do?
It's not uncommon at first to feel overwhelmed because most if not all of the information is brand new, which is why I stress focusing a lot of time on the basics when you first start. If there is a concept that you don't understand, I recommend researching it and trying to get as much exposure as possible to the topic. When it comes down to it, I believe that most people are capable of working in cyber security but it's a matter of finding out what you're good at or what you enjoy. Some people are really good at the technical aspects and some are really good at non-technical aspects, but we have enough variety that there is a place where most people can find enjoyment. Keep in mind that it takes work and dedication to get to the most beneficial part of the career field.
@@JonGoodCyber thank you brother, I really appreciate the advice, I’m gonna definitely grind and stick to it!
Im getting into cyber security because ive always been rather tech savvy. Ive struggled to find careers that interest me AND pay well at the same time. So my friend with a computer engineering masters degree told me about cyber security and how many people are looking for them. On top of that my grandfather is a retired union member and his benefits allow me to get my bachlors for 100% free. Luckily the college i have to go through with the union plus has a business management and cyber security program
So to sum up, i can go for free and it pays well lol
Awesome! That's a pretty good combination and now you can start learning about the areas that interest you the most.
I am 23, currently working full time at a pharmaceutical company as Quality Assurance Associate. I have no bg in computer. I am interested in being in the IT industry and climb my way up to cyber security.
Where do I start ? I am very overwhelmed with different aspects of the industry and would love to get a direction. Cheers. Thanks in advance.
I recommend checking out my Getting Started page ( www.jongood.com/getstarted/ ) and grab a free copy of my eBook where I provide a roadmap of skills and certifications to pursue. Start by learning the basics and then advancing from there.
So Does that mean Becoming a pen tester is a bad idea?
I think that you should go after the types of jobs that both interest you the most and that you are capable of doing. With that being said, I believe in full transparency about what the job actually entails and the points that I make in this video usually seem to get glossed over when talking about the different jobs. The points should be considerations when you are deciding but only you can outweigh the pros and cons of the different jobs to make the decision.
Just finished college and searching to start my career in cyber security.
Awesome! It's a great time to be jumping into Cyber Security!
Did you have any experience and knowledge about cyber security before you started college?
@@dyne20 necessarily u dont need experienced but whn u take college classes throughout the years u must work hard
Jon, I am looking to change careers. I have a friend who changed his career and is now in Cyber Security and loves his job. He did a six month Cyber Security Boot Camp through a local college. Are these boot camps worth the expense? It seems to have worked well for him and he spoke highly of the program. Just curious what your thoughts are. If I pursue a Cyber Security career I will be doing so as an older candidate. Will this have a negative impact on my ability to find a job? Thanks much!
You can find my opinion on bootcamps in a video that I made ( ruclips.net/video/Hi9bci5gbw4/видео.html ). As far as age, I'm not sure what "old" means but what I can tell you is there are people later in life that are frequently switching into Cyber Security.
I’m a double major in mis with an information security track and business analytics. I’m in my second year in college and I’m worried Because I see most in this field are cs majors or cyber security majors. Can I break into cyber security with my current set up and is my double major desirable?
Ultimately if you are in a related degree program like CS, CIS, MIS, cyber, etc. then you will be learning about topics that will apply to the career field. In all honesty, there are plenty of people with no degree or degrees in other subjects that are successful in this career field. One piece of advice is to supplement your degree with industry certifications and the ones I recommend can be found in my eBook ( jongood.com/getstarted/ ).
@@JonGoodCyber thank you for the reassurance. I will def use those certs to help specialize myself since MIS is a general degree.
Hey Jon I'm 22 and wanting to get into cyber security. What would be my best course of action? Should I got with an online program, or actually get a bachelors in Computer science? Or will an associates with the proper certifications work aswell? Idk every job I've looked at usually requires a bachelor's
Most positions do not have a degree as a hard requirement and it's more of a desired credential. With that being said, any position that I've seen that requires a degree, requires a bachelor (or higher) degree which means that you couldn't qualify with an associates. From a career standpoint, it would be wise to finish out a bachelor degree because of the long term benefit that you'll get and in the immediate future, you would be a more competitive candidate. Of course it's also entirely possible to get a job with no degree or certifications but the less that you have, the more difficult the path becomes and the more "extra" work that you'll have to do to get noticed. Management level jobs are also exponentially more difficult to get without a degree.
Hello Jon.
Love your content.
Do you think is if still worth doing a cyber sec degree ? I mean cyber sec undergrad and after that a cyber sec masters ?
Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad that you enjoyed the content! For most situations, especially in cyber security, I wouldn't recommend a Bachelor's and a Master's in the same area of study. In cyber security, a degree plus certifications will satisfy just about any educational requirement that you might come across. If you want to get into management however, then there are some other factors like project management and possibly a business degree of some sort that are helpful. If you were dead set on a PhD after you get your Bachelor's degree then a Master's might make sense because you do need to specialize heavily but most people either won't even think about that route and even less will actually start making progress down that route.
Q: is possible to start cyber security from group 0 with no experience what so ever .
I Wanna start cyber security because I understand what I see and I feel I have potential for it . From where to start I don't know, and exactly what in cyber security will be best fit for me I don't know.
It's possible to get a job in Cyber Security with no work experience, however it's not possible without having practiced in a lab environment (at minimum) and to have learned a decent amount of information. I recommend checking out my free eBook ( jongood.com/getstarted/ ) where I provide the skills and certifications that you should pursue to give yourself the best opportunity possible.
Great video overall but I don’t see the use of the first reason. That is a real reason but it’s really for on people wanting to learn cyber security, no one will be able to get even an interview if they have the thought that cyber security is all that access granted, hacked into mainframe, and big green glove on the screen. They can’t fail their career if they aren’t even in it yet.
Unfortunately, people don't always do enough research about potential careers in general and some people will make decisions based off of limited information instead of seeking out further advice. It's totally possible to get an interview and even a job while having an incorrect idea about what the career field is like. Research in a career also will help identify the information that you need to learn instead of skipping foundational topics and going straight into the advanced topics.
QOTD: I want to explore cyber security because I want an interesting job that has changes! I want something that won't stale or bore me after a few years.
There is definitely no shortage of work in cyber security. Also, even if one type of cyber security job role starts to get boring, there are plenty of other options!
I want to get into the field because i find it interesting and i already have a CS degree and 5+ years experience in software development and as a system admin. But so far no luck in even getting a interview. Can't even get entry level roles. I guess i don't even know where to start, everyone says something completely different and so far everyone has been wrong.
First, I would look at your resume and make sure that you have tried to highlight your security responsibilities in previous jobs (all of them have related tasks). Second, I would start pursuing certifications like I list in my eBook ( www.jongood.com/getstarted/ ). Third, try to join local security meetups to meet people in the industry. Fourth, start participating on online platforms (Try Hack Me, Hack The Box, HackerOne, BugCrowed, etc.). I'm not sure what others have been telling you exactly but the things that I just provided are proven methods to landing jobs.
Thank for your information
Any time!
I just wonder..How fluent do I need to be to speak and listen in English? I want to learn Cybersecurity, and live in U.S.A now. But I am a not native speaker..so I am worried I can catch up the classes.
I'm not sure if there is a way to quantify that but you will have to be able to understand the subjects and communicate with the people that you work with.
@@JonGoodCyber Thank you for the reply:) Best regards.
Hi Jon, i have a question, How a person can undertake a businness, be their own boss with the cybersecurity career, because, I only see that they talk about working in companies and for others.
What is the reality and possibility.
Other options include consulting, managed security service provider, or configuring security tools (sort of like consulting). There are tons of smaller security companies that do niche tasks for companies but if you actually want to start one of those companies you will need experience and to know potential clients to get started.
Thanks pal!
The problem is with some people trying to get into this industry as they’re just looking at the salary and as you said the perception and that’s it people make me laugh
There is nothing wrong with being attracted to the types of salaries that we get in Cyber Security but if that's the only interesting part, a career will be short lived.
I have a full ride all set up for me bc of my military service. I want to start the degree but I am so scared of failure. I suck at math. So idk.
I want to do CyberSecurity because it coincides with what I did in the military and I want to make good money. Very hollow reasons I know, but it burns me inside to do better
Thank you for sharing! Remember, there are other degrees like MIS, CIS, and even many Cyber Security degree programs that aren't as heavy on the math like you will see in engineering or Computer Science degrees.
In your opinion which path is better in terms of ROI and future job security: CCIE Security + PaloAlto etc.. or CISSP + CEH ?
Areas like networking aren't really clear how they will change and those jobs are limited in number. If you wanted to go the penetration testing route, CISSP + OSCP is a much better path because the CEH isn't really in high demand for most companies currently.
play this on 2x speed trust me.
Slow or fast, as long as people get value out of the content then it's a win!
I will be graduating high school in 2021 and heading into college , I was wondering which majors You think I should study for a cyber security career/Degree.
There are many options that would give you valuable skills for Cyber Security. The most traditional degrees will be Computer Science which will be heavier in programming, or Computer Information Systems (CIS) and Management Information Systems (MIS) which tend to be more "IT" focused degrees. Depending on the school you attend, you might have the option of Cyber Security or Information Assurance as a degree.
#Cyber I want to get into cybersecurity because it interests me very much ; especially SOC analyst field. I used to study and work with web development and I'm sick and tired of that field and its scattered curriculum and all of it's constantly changing languages,frameworks , and libraries. I feel like using coding as a tool, rather than the majority of the time , is what I would like to try . Anyone here coming from a web development fields . Thoughts ?
Awesome! There is always a high demand in Cyber Security for people that have a development background because the majority of us aren't programmers.
Hello I am an Integrated (Master of Computer Applications+ Bachelor of Computer Applications ) student. I love coding a lot. SO if i develop my coding skills along with netwrking concepts..will i be able to pursue a great career??
Although I am not familiar with that particular degree, programming/coding and networking knowledge are very useful. To have a great career, you must be willing to put in the work but it's totally possible.
@@JonGoodCyber Thanks a lot sir
#cyber Nice video! I have a TS and Sec+ and looking at federal jobs. I have 3 years in IT so hoping to go for the CISSP. Looking at contracting jobs to get a breadth of knowledge in the DCO world!
Thank you for the feedback! Definitely keep your eyes on the CISSP and any other certifications in the DOD 8140 (formerly 8570) that fall into categories you might want to explore...it's better to already qualify than to have a deadline to satisfy for a job. Good luck!
Jon Good very good tips!
#cyber hi i'm consodering a career in cyber security and the company i'm going with is putting me through my CompTIA A+ & CYSA+ exams. Are these credentials enough or would more learning be required?
I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. I would recommend checking out my Getting Started page ( www.jongood.com/getting-started/ ) and grab a copy of my eBook that will give you the recommended certifications to get for Cyber Security. It's fairly interesting that they are recommending the A+ and the CySA+ because they are meant for drastically different audiences.
Seeing you answering a lot of questions, can you let me know how can I get into a cyber security career after going through the IB diploma in high school. And what should I do, like I really don’t have any idea about universities or colleges. I will be taking my SAT in high school though, which helps in getting into universities and colleges... pls help
I recommend checking out my Getting Started page ( www.jongood.com/getting-started/ ) and grabbing a free copy of my eBook where I give a lot of answers to your initial questions that you are going to have.
Hello, I am on my last year of High School with no prior experience. What would be the best pathway to a cyber security career? Should I go to community College and then a 4 year university for Cybersecurity?
I would start by grabbing a free copy of my eBook ( www.jongood.com/newsletter/ ) where I give a road map of things you will want to learn. You will also want to check out the section for Beginners on my channel ( ruclips.net/user/JonGoodCyberplaylists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=5 ) for videos on career advice. As far as Community College vs 4 year program, ultimately the 4 year degree looks better but you could absolutely knock out a few years that will transfer from the CC first to keep costs down. There are a lot of variables in that specific situation that aren't necessarily related to the degree itself such as social environment, independence, etc. that you will want to consider. Also, when it comes to the degree a 4 year school is more likely to have a better program and more opportunities because of research grants for example that provide better facilities.
Im taking the military route, ill be joining the air force as a cyber operations specialist, ill get certifications while im in and when I get out the military ill have 4+ years of experience as well as a top secret background check. I also plan to get my college degree while in the military also. So when I get out ill be very sought after by many companies.
That is definitely a solid plan and will give you a lot of options when you are getting out.
@@winds1010 im taking the military route now, unfortunately I did not think of cyber security in it. Instead I thought of IT specialist role but that mos is always occupied and there was not any. Instead I landed the role of. I figure the role will help me transfer to the civilian world whether it be cubersecurity or computer programming(computer science) careers just right.
@@dbr4338 Good luck man !
just think of the movie hackers, i am just doing the Comptia A+ and seeing if i wanna going this route afterwards. I might take up coding instead on cyber security
Movies that show hackers seem to stir up a lot of interest in Cyber Security. Just remember that there are a lot of different areas outside of hacking that might interest you.
Hello, Some people are spreading rumors that the future will see very little in cybersecurity due to artificial intelligence. And no scope in this field But I am really very interested in cyber security field.....
There will always be a need for people who are knowledgeable on how the pieces work and how to secure them.
is there any possible ways to get into a cyber security jobs . without getting any degrees and certificates but have more knowladge skills and experiences.
It is certainly possible but it will be significantly more difficult. Employers use degrees and certifications to help establish a baseline of knowledge that you might possess in order to determine if you are worth interviewing. Without degrees or certifications you would need to be able to WOW an employer by demonstrating your knowledge and abilities through a GitHub account, blog, or some other method.
Hi, I was a nurse student but I want to start with cybersecurity. Is it a best decision?
If you enjoy learning about technologies and how to secure them then it will be a great choice. On the other hand, if you don't enjoy learning new stuff frequently, then it might not be a good choice but only you can make that determination.
cloud security and blue team skills are valuable
Completely agree!
#cyber, I am in my first year in college. I choose cyber security because its challenging, and it is still evolving...
Awesome! It's a great time to be getting into Cyber Security.
@@JonGoodCyber Sir, I'm going to college next year in Digital Forensics is that good and have a good future?
Digital Forensics definitely has a bright future especially in security operations centers and in law enforcement/government.
@@JonGoodCyber thank you🙏
@@JonGoodCyber Thank you for your reply, sir!
Hi Jon, im taking computer science major right now (just switched majors last year) in currently turnin' 22 this year i was a business major b4 i haven't been to school or taken any classes since 2020 spring. Honestly didn't know what i was doin' with myselfi just wanted somethin' else then i looked to cybersecurity and loved im now registering for classes for it. Long story short im not sure what job or career path i want to take in it, could you help me ?
The first question is do you enjoy programming? Computer Science is all about programming and development, which is great knowledge to have and definitely pays well...but it's not required for most cyber security jobs. If you do enjoy it, then Application Security, Penetration Testing, or Reverse Engineering are the three most likely options that you should research. Regardless of which path that you take, you still need to learn how networks and systems operate because that will be required in all roles.
I would grab a free copy of my eBook ( www.jongood.com/getstarted/ ) where I provide the roadmap that I tell everybody to pursue regardless of their path because I address the foundational knowledge and specialty areas.
@@JonGoodCyber well, i don't know yet im not the techy or much of a computer expert the major seemed interestin' and intriguin' to me definitely will more research on it. Thanks so for the ebook and advice! Really made things a really clearer!
I’m currently in community college for HVAC but thinking about switching my major to cybersecurity do you think it’s a good idea ? I’m 27
Although I can't decide which factors about a career are most important for you, what I can tell you is that there is a lot of money and growth in cyber security where HVAC probably isn't changing much from what it is right now. When I searched on glassdoor, HVAC jobs were an average of $50k or so per year where Cyber Security was an average of $86k (and that's low once you start getting some good experience). If you don't enjoy technology and the challenge of learning about it however, then it's probably not a good switch.
Hello Jon,
Very informative video :)
I am 24 with an engineering degree in electronics and communication. Now working as a software engineer for almost two years.My role involves Coding,Unit testing,Bug investigation ( lots of logs here too) and reporting as well as production support often times. I really enjoy finding loopholes in the systems and really want to explore more in cybersecurity. I always feel to learn and update myself with latest technologies. Question: Is cybersecurity perfect for me ? And I'd doing master in cybersecurity is worth it ?
I'm glad that you enjoyed the video! There is definitely a need for people that understand applications and testing them. I would look into Application Security and Penetration Testing since those are going to be the closest areas to what you've been doing already unless you want to work in another part of Cyber Security. The Masters degree certainly won't hurt and as long as the cost isn't crazy then there is value in having the degree.
How do you think the rise of blockchain will affect cyber security careers
It's kind of hard right now to predict given that the adoption rate is still growing. In most cases right now, direct Cyber Security careers are transitioning a lot towards oversight type of roles so I think that trend will continue.
Hi, what is the communication like in this field? I don’t like giving presentations to big groups of people. I get panic attacks, no lie.
There is definitely communication that has to happen across departments, teams, etc. With that being said, most positions aren't going to require you to speak in front of large audiences but it's not uncommon for you to be presenting to management level or higher. I recommend trying to work on that skill because it will limit you later on in your career since there isn't really a position where you can hide from all speaking especially as you get more senior, but it's not going to be like a sales type of job where you speak to everybody.
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I'm not sure what that means but thank you for viewing!
For someone making a mid life career change, not good at math, is cyber security a good field to get into? Or would information technology or something be better? In your honest opinion
Math has very little relevance to most cyber security and IT jobs except for basic addition/subtraction/division/multiplication that can be done with a computer. Cyber Security is a very in-demand field right now for anybody interested in technology.
@@JonGoodCyber thank you. Appreciate your insight. Yeah I can do the basics pretty well, so that’s good to know.