Stupid assumption that because the train was blocking the diamonds that it must be a “rookie crew”🤦🏽♂️. Have you ever tried making a set out or yarding a 10,000 foot train before? In a yard that def doesn’t have any 10,000 foot tracks?
You know how foamers are, they know more about railroading than the railroad does! They have studied every railfan website and remembered every train ID. They could instantly replace a dispatcher, a Road foreman and a Division GM all in the same day! But that's the way the hobby works, 99% of the fans are quiet listeners. And then you got one jackwagon that feels the need to tell everyone else how to do their job.
It's an automatic interlock, it is not controlled by a dispatcher, so quit referencing some misinformation on your part, apparently you don't know anything about automatic interlocks.
The conductor had to go up to the box at the interlocking and comply with the instructions. The control operator/ train dispatcher cannot give a train authority by a stop indication at a automatic interlocking. The conductor must comply with the instructions in the box that controls this automatic interlocking.
This is probably what happened, I used to have to deal with an automatic interlocking but luckily never had to manually "run the time" with the little box on the signal bungalow. A train being delayed in due to mechanical issues or tonnage dragging the train speeds down will cause the circuit to timeout as automatic interlockings have a set amount of time (anywhere from 5-15 mins) that trains must get to the signal before it resets and you have to manually request it at the box on the bungalow. There could have also been some kind of error in the automatic interlocking's system that caused it to downgrade to its most restrictive state (Aka Stop) as a safety measure. Automatic Interlockings are controlled by a local system inside the signal bungalow, usually on a first come, first serve basis. THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY EITHER RAILROADS DISPATCHERS. (Source: I work for a railroad) (Also a word of advice, don't call a crew a rookie crew because of something that is out of everyone's control. It is rude, and it is part of the reason why railroad crews don't like a lot of railfans/foamers because a chunk of you all act like you know more than the crews that actually work for the railroads.)
I work for BNSF in the Chicago division and i have done the Rochelle job a few times. What @jackfox4348 mentioned is actually in our Rochelle job storybook. Plus i know the guys who had the job that day. They didn't get into no kind of trouble.
Rookie Crew? We are just following orders out there. I am betting some office person decided to stack em up high and that left the tail hanging out. In any case it's not the crew's fault. Their job is to follow instructions and get the train over the rails safely. If they had a clear signal up to a certain point, their instructions are to take the train all the way to the end of their signals. It's the dispatcher's job to make sure they have plenty of room out ahead and that they fit where they are going. It's the superintendent or road foreman's job to make sure the trains are not too big and are being operated by qualified people. I'd like to see you do our job though, since you know so much better than all of us. My 21 years of service on the railroad pales by comparison to your time as a wayside observer. Apparently you would have known there were washouts ahead, or that a bridge was going to collapse too, why didn't you make any efforts to prevent that from happening?
Dude your videos are great, keep it up, but come on... Why this title? Even if it was true... Don't snitch! We all have to start somewhere and these guys don't have a life but keep the supply chain moving. They don't get enough time with friends and family. Least they have to worry about, is a RUclipsr putting a wrongful title on it. Think about it, man...
I was there today and some UP train stopped on the diamond for like an hour I left before it started moving but I have no idea why it was stopped there. There were no other trains close by on UP and it blocked a whole bunch of BNSF trains and 2 BNSF Z trains.
I like it! Watched the Rochelle webcam even when I lived in England way back when lol Great to see the operations around the crossings at eye level! Thanks for braving the cold 🥶
It doesn’t matter if the signals are auto controlled or dispatch controlled. If the diamond sensors detect something could be blocking the diamond, then it locks all signals to red. The J/K diamond in Roanoke is DISPATCH controlled UNTIL the diamond senses possible obstruction. Then the conductor has to go reset the diamond at the control box. In Roanoke, the diamond is at the east end of South Yard and there are a lot of power moves. If power has to come out and switch tracks, the dispatcher gives them a signal, then they have to get at least one truck over the diamond before reversing. If they don’t, then the sensors lock the signals to red.
Were you at Rochelle IL on June 8th 2024? I remember seeing someone who look and talked similar to you. If you were I was the guy with the drone shortly after the UP 1995 departed the park and went into the yard.
More than likely the train was built too big for whatever G3 setout or work they had to do. Tons of possibilities why the diamonds were block, it being because of a “rookie crew” probably the least likely
Railroads share locomotives. They just pay for the hours they use that locomotive on that train or they give some of their locomotives to pay back the hour power hours.
A "diamond"...I'm from western Washington state and I don't think I've ever seen a diamond type railroad crossing anywhere in this state that I'm aware of. Is there a listing someplace that shows how many of these diamonds are in use in each state for instance??? Anyone else notice the lack of rail diamonds here in the Pacific Northwest??
Question…is Global III operational again or is it still closed for intermodal traffic. I knew it was closed but have heard it mentioned numerous times recently, like in your video? Great video BTW, Thank you.
Stupid assumption that because the train was blocking the diamonds that it must be a “rookie crew”🤦🏽♂️. Have you ever tried making a set out or yarding a 10,000 foot train before? In a yard that def doesn’t have any 10,000 foot tracks?
The title of this video should be “Rookie rail fan doesn’t know how railroads work”
You know how foamers are, they know more about railroading than the railroad does! They have studied every railfan website and remembered every train ID. They could instantly replace a dispatcher, a Road foreman and a Division GM all in the same day!
But that's the way the hobby works, 99% of the fans are quiet listeners. And then you got one jackwagon that feels the need to tell everyone else how to do their job.
It's an automatic interlock, it is not controlled by a dispatcher, so quit referencing some misinformation on your part, apparently you don't know anything about automatic interlocks.
The conductor had to go up to the box at the interlocking and comply with the instructions. The control operator/ train dispatcher cannot give a train authority by a stop indication at a automatic interlocking. The conductor must comply with the instructions in the box that controls this automatic interlocking.
This is probably what happened, I used to have to deal with an automatic interlocking but luckily never had to manually "run the time" with the little box on the signal bungalow. A train being delayed in due to mechanical issues or tonnage dragging the train speeds down will cause the circuit to timeout as automatic interlockings have a set amount of time (anywhere from 5-15 mins) that trains must get to the signal before it resets and you have to manually request it at the box on the bungalow. There could have also been some kind of error in the automatic interlocking's system that caused it to downgrade to its most restrictive state (Aka Stop) as a safety measure.
Automatic Interlockings are controlled by a local system inside the signal bungalow, usually on a first come, first serve basis. THEY ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY EITHER RAILROADS DISPATCHERS.
(Source: I work for a railroad)
(Also a word of advice, don't call a crew a rookie crew because of something that is out of everyone's control. It is rude, and it is part of the reason why railroad crews don't like a lot of railfans/foamers because a chunk of you all act like you know more than the crews that actually work for the railroads.)
I work for BNSF in the Chicago division and i have done the Rochelle job a few times. What @jackfox4348 mentioned is actually in our Rochelle job storybook. Plus i know the guys who had the job that day. They didn't get into no kind of trouble.
Getting absolutely roasted in the comments lmfao.
Tell me you don’t know railroading without telling me you don’t know railroading
Great to see that old Milwaukee road bobber in the background.
Rookie Crew? We are just following orders out there. I am betting some office person decided to stack em up high and that left the tail hanging out. In any case it's not the crew's fault. Their job is to follow instructions and get the train over the rails safely. If they had a clear signal up to a certain point, their instructions are to take the train all the way to the end of their signals. It's the dispatcher's job to make sure they have plenty of room out ahead and that they fit where they are going. It's the superintendent or road foreman's job to make sure the trains are not too big and are being operated by qualified people.
I'd like to see you do our job though, since you know so much better than all of us. My 21 years of service on the railroad pales by comparison to your time as a wayside observer. Apparently you would have known there were washouts ahead, or that a bridge was going to collapse too, why didn't you make any efforts to prevent that from happening?
Dude your videos are great, keep it up, but come on... Why this title? Even if it was true...
Don't snitch! We all have to start somewhere and these guys don't have a life but keep the supply chain moving. They don't get enough time with friends and family.
Least they have to worry about, is a RUclipsr putting a wrongful title on it.
Think about it, man...
EMDS still sound better than GE’s in my opinion
Argeed
and EMD out last GE
I do like the chugging GE’s make. It used to be louder with the U-boats.
I was there today and some UP train stopped on the diamond for like an hour I left before it started moving but I have no idea why it was stopped there. There were no other trains close by on UP and it blocked a whole bunch of BNSF trains and 2 BNSF Z trains.
This narrator is high
on rail faning.
😂
🌿🚬
if you listen closely, you'll feel the foam as it spatters into your ear.
Suggestion, you can film both lines from the park with out moving too far. That way you will not be stuck away from a warm vehicle.
I like it! Watched the Rochelle webcam even when I lived in England way back when lol
Great to see the operations around the crossings at eye level!
Thanks for braving the cold 🥶
It doesn’t matter if the signals are auto controlled or dispatch controlled. If the diamond sensors detect something could be blocking the diamond, then it locks all signals to red.
The J/K diamond in Roanoke is DISPATCH controlled UNTIL the diamond senses possible obstruction. Then the conductor has to go reset the diamond at the control box. In Roanoke, the diamond is at the east end of South Yard and there are a lot of power moves. If power has to come out and switch tracks, the dispatcher gives them a signal, then they have to get at least one truck over the diamond before reversing. If they don’t, then the sensors lock the signals to red.
I live close to Rochelle. It’s always a great place to railfan
Great video, thanks for sharing 👍
As a retired locomotive engineer .... I hope to god that there's no "rookie crews" out there.
Were you at Rochelle IL on June 8th 2024? I remember seeing someone who look and talked similar to you. If you were I was the guy with the drone shortly after the UP 1995 departed the park and went into the yard.
Great.vidoe.goodte
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How do you know it was a rookie crew? Maybe that UP crew stopped at the crew change location and their train was longer than the actual block.
More than likely the train was built too big for whatever G3 setout or work they had to do. Tons of possibilities why the diamonds were block, it being because of a “rookie crew” probably the least likely
Interesting that NS power was on the point on BNSF tracks.
Gotta use some body's track....their track is no longer up to FRA standards....😂
Railroads share locomotives. They just pay for the hours they use that locomotive on that train or they give some of their locomotives to pay back the hour power hours.
@@BNSFbroman what ever the case....you see NS coming get out of the way!!!!
@@ShawnCalaywhy do I what to stay away from Ns train tracks?
@@CSX-CN-Railfan it's your life...lol....
I grew up about an hour and a half east of Rochelle.
3:15 3:20 GE (NOW WABTEC) WHOOSH DIESEL SOUND !!!!
A "diamond"...I'm from western Washington state and I don't think I've ever seen a diamond type railroad crossing anywhere in this state that I'm aware of. Is there a listing someplace that shows how many of these diamonds are in use in each state for instance??? Anyone else notice the lack of rail diamonds here in the Pacific Northwest??
Question…is Global III operational again or is it still closed for intermodal traffic. I knew it was closed but have heard it mentioned numerous times recently, like in your video?
Great video BTW, Thank you.
your backstory makes no sense
In the past, I've never really been a fan of self-narrated videos.
With this.... I find that i am STILL not a fan of self-narrated videos.
Narration is better! ... When the narrator! ... Doesn't speak with! ... A really weird cadence!
You sound like a robot
I can almost see my work from there.
I know where that power station is at. There is a railroad park across the street
Shot you a subscribe