You can also get something similar in the PNW Coast dropper post for 179.99 USD. It has 100 mm of drop with 40 mm of suspension. Yes, SRAM makes the world's best dropper post, but is it worth an additional 600 USD? Not to me. I've been running a Coast on my gravel bike and it works like a dream and is a much cheaper alternative. It takes the edge off of that pothole you didn't see, and it's nice to drop it down at intersections, or on mount/dismount. Dropper posts are kind of like cycling kit. If you've never had it, you don't know why you need it. Once you have it, it's hard to imagine riding without it.
@Timothy - how did you mount your dropper lever on your PNW and is it easy to reach in hoods & drops? Drops when you have misread the terrain, already in the drops & that “oh sh*t, I should be back & lower”. It’s the lack of one fixed lever & ability to use all the shifter and blip combos that makes AXS appealing to me. I hear you on the price and the ETA just pushes out the decision.
@@davet003.5 I used TransX's drop bar lever. It supports both the hoods and the drops. You can also modify your left shifter (if you have mechanical SRAM) to activate the post. My son's Kona ULTD came like this right from the factory.
The other feature you are forgetting is it allows you to “super tuck” on fast descents for some great aero gains without the safety issues. You ought to try it on a road bike on a road ride and report on how much it helps.
Arse form 😂 You enjoy the suspension but can’t get it at an optimal height? Doesn’t that undermine it entirely? How much do you need to drop it to action the suspension? 5mm? 20mm? Thanks for all you do 🙏
Good review, but I don't understand if this post can be set at any height in between full top and full bottom. Is the adjustability infinite, in between??
Hey Shane, hoping I can please pick you knowledge. Stages power meter on Zwift. Would you go Bluetooth via companion app or power meter Bluetooth to laptop or would you go ant+ dongle with UAV extension and place it right under the bike? Cheers Shane and always appreciate your ongoing help for me. Dan.
Tyres like the GravelKing SK will fling stones everywhere, including into your butt and down into the leaf post. All my gravel bikes have standard carbon posts. Simple and effective.
As a mountain biker from the 90s, I managed quite well without a dropper post for 20 years. Off-road, yeah they help, but not life changing. Just bought a wireless magura vyron elect v2, it's about half the price of the axs reverb. Makes you wonder where is the other £350 going on the axs??? Vyron isn't meant to be perfect, but it's half the price and the same weight. The squish mode would be handy on a hard tail mtb too, not sure I'd fancy shimming 31.6mm to 27.2mm though. Good review and cheers.
Well, the sram dropper is perfect. That’s where the extra money went…. Also, droppers are life changing and makes the ride much safer without question. Yes, we did a lot of things in the past and it was just as fun!
People who don't think droppers make much of a difference on MTB for descending/cornering are always invariably XC riders who are slow on the downs. Which is fine. But said opinion becomes null and void...
For those that are running 2x AXS, can you program the combo action for the multiclics to activate the dropper while leaving the combo action on the shifters to shift the chainring?
Good question. I don’t have an AXS FD to test this (not that the Eagle supports a FD, but the Rival group here does…). One for SRAM support for a quick answer.
If you have enhanced shifting enabled so only shift rear and it does front for you then I not see why not it work like he had or if you can add a blip but program that as a toggle for it or something
It appears that if you don't have SRAM wireless shifters on your bike already, then this system won't work, because you can't place the controller on road bars, which have diameter 23.8mm, whereas the controller is designed for mountain bike bars which have 22.2mm diameter, and you can't go from a smaller diameter to a larger diameter. However, it may be possible to use their blipbox, but it's not obvious whether that is the case.
it's sram, I really don't care. They had a great thing with gripshift way back when but now their prioritizing marketing and cheapness have written them off in my books. I've had some sram stuff and have never always been disappointed despite repeatedly lowering my expectations
hi mate, love your work, but dropper post on gravel bike uuuuummmmm nope, its about as useless as those old bar ends they used to put on mtbs, you've got 'cost', 'weight penalty' and suspension wise as you're probably finding out now as an off-roader, its about unweighting as in using your legs to hover off the seat and keep pedaling through terrain. a fatter Tyre will help. gnarly descents now gbike has its limits but its about arsse off seat and push back, line choice, braking. better to learn that technique. I think if you mounted it on the bars you could have a pop up gopro mount, takes it to useful.
Only my opinion, but after much experience using droppers on both mountain and gravel/cx bikes, it isn't as much about getting weight back. It's about allowing more room for the saddle to move towards your inside thigh while leaning the bike over. This allows for better utilization of cornering knobs and keeps your weight over the tire's contact point to produce more normal force and traction.
let's remember the seat is a handy lever that you use on cornering (in semi attack position) if you use the dropper, try cornering hard off road with the seat between your thighs, works. the dropper is compensating for poor body position, but we aren't talking downhill mtb, more gravel so less extreme grades to descend, but if you've been exposed to a dropper as part of your first experience then hard to argue as that's part of your ride regime. if you're new to off road, then suspension, dropper, lockouts all work. all add weight and cost of course are they needed? @@laxsr2k6
I had to angle the phone away from anyone elses view when your "undercarriage" camera angle started 😂
100k plus gravel rides and a dropper is a must-have for lower back relief. Love mine ❤
I use a dropper post on a gravel bike, and do some steep descent. You want a dropper post on steep descents, even if they’re not “technical”.
You can also get something similar in the PNW Coast dropper post for 179.99 USD. It has 100 mm of drop with 40 mm of suspension. Yes, SRAM makes the world's best dropper post, but is it worth an additional 600 USD? Not to me. I've been running a Coast on my gravel bike and it works like a dream and is a much cheaper alternative. It takes the edge off of that pothole you didn't see, and it's nice to drop it down at intersections, or on mount/dismount. Dropper posts are kind of like cycling kit. If you've never had it, you don't know why you need it. Once you have it, it's hard to imagine riding without it.
@Timothy - how did you mount your dropper lever on your PNW and is it easy to reach in hoods & drops? Drops when you have misread the terrain, already in the drops & that “oh sh*t, I should be back & lower”. It’s the lack of one fixed lever & ability to use all the shifter and blip combos that makes AXS appealing to me. I hear you on the price and the ETA just pushes out the decision.
@@davet003.5 I used TransX's drop bar lever. It supports both the hoods and the drops. You can also modify your left shifter (if you have mechanical SRAM) to activate the post. My son's Kona ULTD came like this right from the factory.
I was on the fence about grabbing one for my Canyon Grizl - thanks for helping me make the decision!
Did you end up getting one? Did you go with 50mm or 75?
The other feature you are forgetting is it allows you to “super tuck” on fast descents for some great aero gains without the safety issues. You ought to try it on a road bike on a road ride and report on how much it helps.
You’d need a lot more drop to make it a supertuck alternative. (And a lot less weight if you’re taking it in the mountains)
As shown in Milan-San Remo 2022
Some rider of Milan San Remo watched your video to prepare the win!
"ASSFORM" LOL - Brilliant
Arse form 😂
You enjoy the suspension but can’t get it at an optimal height? Doesn’t that undermine it entirely? How much do you need to drop it to action the suspension? 5mm? 20mm?
Thanks for all you do 🙏
If you use the button on the seatpost you can have active mode at the max height.
Good review, but I don't understand if this post can be set at any height in between full top and full bottom. Is the adjustability infinite, in between??
Infinite
I ride my gravel bike on some mild-ish singletrack. This looks cool to me... except that I'm all Shimano.
yup! me 2
dont give it back mate... with current ETA on product through PSI.. So buy anyway you can. great review as always
haha! What's their ETA?
@@gplama all options 08/06/20........2022 :/
The groin cam was a first for RUclips
A new BMX bandit is born!
I also use the dropper feature is in getting o ff the bike...LOL...
Just got mine and has what I'd consider an excessive fore and aft play. Curious if yours as well?
Nope. This will be one for SRAM support.
Yep, already reached out to them and the dealer. I've seen others reporting the same.@@gplama
Life’s pretty dull without a dropper post 😀
🤣
I'm a very timid descender. Do you think this would help to lower the center of gravity and provide a "safer" feel?
On the road? Not really as the drop changes your leg extension a lot and makes pedalling feel awkward.
Hey Shane, hoping I can please pick you knowledge. Stages power meter on Zwift. Would you go Bluetooth via companion app or power meter Bluetooth to laptop or would you go ant+ dongle with UAV extension and place it right under the bike? Cheers Shane and always appreciate your ongoing help for me. Dan.
Direct to the Zwift machine is less things to go wrong. BLE or ANT+ depends... if you're having issues with one, switch to the other.
Is the height adjustable? Will it lock out at any height you want it to?
It only locks out at max height. Dropping it turns it into squishy mode.
What size is ur aspero ? My aspero is a 54. Do I want 350 or 400 ?
54
That camera angle :D :D :D
Go(nad)Pro
It takes balls to do that shot.
Haha that cracked me up and the wife had no idea why i’d suddenly lost it 😂
I have a total of 11cm exposed seatpost. can I run a 75mm (or maybe 50mm) dropper post?
You do know they are 350m or 400mm I believe and most seat post minimum insertion is like 50mm or so into the seat post tube thing
Is this as comfortable as a split leaf carbon post, or a Redshift post?
Split leaf collecting rocks and stones isn’t ideal, so not something I’d choose to ride. Comfort is subjective… so it’s a 🤷🏻♂️ from me.
@@gplama Ahh interesting. Didn't think they would get high enough to collect in the seatpost. How about compared to a normal $300 carbon post?
Tyres like the GravelKing SK will fling stones everywhere, including into your butt and down into the leaf post. All my gravel bikes have standard carbon posts. Simple and effective.
Is there an activator switch that works on drop bar handle bars? I do not have electronic shipping.
There is a trigger you can buy, have to ask SRAM if work without rear derailleur, I just know rear derailleur is brain of most of it
As a mountain biker from the 90s, I managed quite well without a dropper post for 20 years. Off-road, yeah they help, but not life changing. Just bought a wireless magura vyron elect v2, it's about half the price of the axs reverb. Makes you wonder where is the other £350 going on the axs??? Vyron isn't meant to be perfect, but it's half the price and the same weight. The squish mode would be handy on a hard tail mtb too, not sure I'd fancy shimming 31.6mm to 27.2mm though. Good review and cheers.
Well, the sram dropper is perfect. That’s where the extra money went…. Also, droppers are life changing and makes the ride much safer without question. Yes, we did a lot of things in the past and it was just as fun!
People who don't think droppers make much of a difference on MTB for descending/cornering are always invariably XC riders who are slow on the downs. Which is fine. But said opinion becomes null and void...
How about an option in the $120/$200 range?
That would be a much more reasonable budget for a seatpost
At hearing that snappy ka-ching sound, my old wheezy KS Lev repsonds psssssssssssssssthunk.
For those that are running 2x AXS, can you program the combo action for the multiclics to activate the dropper while leaving the combo action on the shifters to shift the chainring?
Good question. I don’t have an AXS FD to test this (not that the Eagle supports a FD, but the Rival group here does…). One for SRAM support for a quick answer.
If you have enhanced shifting enabled so only shift rear and it does front for you then I not see why not it work like he had or if you can add a blip but program that as a toggle for it or something
I'm on the di2 system, can it be paired to it?
No
Would be useful for CX for people like me who are not very flexible
It appears that if you don't have SRAM wireless shifters on your bike already, then this system won't work, because you can't place the controller on road bars, which have diameter 23.8mm, whereas the controller is designed for mountain bike bars which have 22.2mm diameter, and you can't go from a smaller diameter to a larger diameter. However, it may be possible to use their blipbox, but it's not obvious whether that is the case.
What is the stack height for the 50 and 75mm?
Best check the SRAM website.
AWW CRAP! Now I need to get a dropper post so I can ride my 700c wheel gravel bike on the PUMP TRACK! .... oh wait... I don't have a pump track :p
Probably factory claimed weight was without air. ;)
The price of this thing is absurd. If they made a cheaper version then it would sell really well imo. I opted for a pnw coast dropper and love it
Any hills to use it on?
Nothing I can access within 5km at the moment!
@@gplama plenty here in Wales😁
FIRST!!!!! my life is complete
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@@gplama and a loveheart and a medal.
PRAISE YE TULLIO!! *wipes tear*
it's sram, I really don't care. They had a great thing with gripshift way back when but now their prioritizing marketing and cheapness have written them off in my books. I've had some sram stuff and have never always been disappointed despite repeatedly lowering my expectations
hi mate, love your work, but dropper post on gravel bike uuuuummmmm nope, its about as useless as those old bar ends they used to put on mtbs, you've got 'cost', 'weight penalty' and suspension wise as you're probably finding out now as an off-roader, its about unweighting as in using your legs to hover off the seat and keep pedaling through terrain. a fatter Tyre will help. gnarly descents now gbike has its limits but its about arsse off seat and push back, line choice, braking. better to learn that technique. I think if you mounted it on the bars you could have a pop up gopro mount, takes it to useful.
100%
Only my opinion, but after much experience using droppers on both mountain and gravel/cx bikes, it isn't as much about getting weight back. It's about allowing more room for the saddle to move towards your inside thigh while leaning the bike over. This allows for better utilization of cornering knobs and keeps your weight over the tire's contact point to produce more normal force and traction.
let's remember the seat is a handy lever that you use on cornering (in semi attack position) if you use the dropper, try cornering hard off road with the seat between your thighs, works. the dropper is compensating for poor body position, but we aren't talking downhill mtb, more gravel so less extreme grades to descend, but if you've been exposed to a dropper as part of your first experience then hard to argue as that's part of your ride regime. if you're new to off road, then suspension, dropper, lockouts all work. all add weight and cost of course are they needed? @@laxsr2k6
On steep , rough descents it's as nice to have a dropper post on a gravelbike as a mtb.
Rockshox really needs to retire the Reverb. So problematic and overpriced.
Gravel bikes a big demographic, how can we get more revenue? Let’s adapt the MTB dropper post, reaching??
Exactly. They’re a business and this is what businesses do. At least they’re bringing product to the market….. says me looking at Shimano…..
More SRAM vapor ware. 🤬Infuriating they intro a new group while still waiting on Force AXS parts ordered in February.