+Felipe Montoya Not Biles, Maroney or Shewfelt can do these far harder vaults...the Tsuk 3/1, the Yurchenko 3/1, the Dragulescu or the Li Xauopeng--which is by far the hardest of all the vaults I've mentioned. The Li Xauopeng have costed Dragulescu 2 World/Olympics titles, and the Korean Yang Hak-seon a World title and also my favorite vaulter, Denis Ablyazin, two titles. And since Uchimura is a 6 event gymnast with no weaknesses, his new super difficult vault makes him even more incredible. Believe me when I say the Yurchenko 2.5 is an easy vault next to the Li Xauopeng. And earlier this year, Uchimura almost nailed it at the Japanese national, overpowering two of the only gymnasts who dared hope to challenge Kohei. With the Li Xauopeng, he extended his lead over his teammates by an even greater margin. This guy is amazing.
Lia Shani That comparison was to his vault in London. They compared her best ever vault to Uchimura's standard one in London. When else has she performed it that cleanly? Needless to say, he's long since upgraded his standard vault to the Li Xiaopeng. Regardless, what makes him superb is his consistency, the mist important thing in the sport. That is exactly what Mckayla lacked in that final.
Kohei did a Triple Twisting Yurchenko at the 2010 Japanese Nationals. Also a Dragulescu. It's on youtube. He said he doesn't practice two vaults because it would take time away from contributing to team competitions, i.e. more time to practice other events where the Japanese team might be weaker (rings, pommel, etc)
It’s been a big thing in the last few quadrennium to teach the spotting of forwards landings so they are not blind. He sees his landing perfectly accurately and it is simply like a jump half turn to stick. It actually takes quite a bit of training to get the neck accustomed to leaving it behind in the last half twist. He is a master of it.
Give credit where it's due. This guy is plain simply the best overall gymnast anyone has seen. He may not be the best at every specifc apparatus, but he is certainly one of the best at every one of them. He is probably go down as the greatest AA and overall gymnast of all time...
Underrated?...where have you been the last decade? Lmao he’s literally considered by everyone to be the greatest male gymnast of all time, maybe even the greatest overall of all time
Chris Brooks is a terrific person, too. A great man who really supported any fellow man with an always unbiased and genuine level of respect. I hung on an extra year or two, learned a few big skills near the end, and enjoyed the process of finishing my career, and a large part of it was thanks to that dude.
@aplusgymnastics Could you see anything wrong with the vault? I thought that the score deduction may have been to leave some room for judging depending on his position in the line-up, but other than that, it's one of the best vaults I've seen in a long time. Best vaulter I've seen since Vitaly Scherbo for accuracy.
Now that is a stuck landing. Maroney's landing was a bit shady to me. Looked like she was about to step, but disguised it nicely with her salute. Uchimura has better form no doubt, but I think Maroney's lift might actually be higher.
to be honest, apart from not getting as much height (which might be because he just jogs to the vault), kohei is by far the most consistent in the world at doing this vault. I've seen him stick this vault dozens of times and his form in the air is always perfect.
Can flexed feet in the roundoff which was the most glaring thing to me be a deduction? Everything else was amazing and perfect except the slight leg separation.
Yes, there is a deduction if the feet are farther appart than the width of the shoulders, but not if they are slightly appart. And I just double-checked the code of points and there was nothing on deducting for feet slightly appart, or appart at all. You can land your feet slightly appart, and as long as you can touch your heels together, there is no deduction. You shouldn't be landing vault with heels together anyway, it's unstable and bad for knees.
At the p&g championships they did a side to side comparison of maroney and uchimuras 2 1/2 yurchenko. Maroney had significantly more air. They also pointed out that the horse is slightly higher for the men than the women. A little more distance from mckalya too.
yes but you should move you heels together as soon as you land or try to have them closer when you land. If the feet are apart as much as this, there is a deduction, what don't you understand about this?
Props to all of the Maroney comments. I had to legitimize the comparison between her and Uchimura one day at work. She's a vault SPECIALIST and he's a 3 Time AA World Champion and an Olympic AA Champion. Absolutely NO COMPARISON between the two. Gymnastics is about being good at everything, not just one thing. Or in the words of girolle01 "One trick pony Maroney"
I don't even know where the judges found 0.4 of deduction in this vault ... I'm also a gymnastic judge (level 3) and there is maybe 0.2 from my point of view...
Agree, I can't find anything on the round off, push from table or flight, he even opened it up in time, I found 0.1 to deduct from him not putting his heels together after dismount and final position :D I would love to hear the judges explanation how this vault could be executed 0.4 better :D
@@VoimaVahtila And failure to put the heels together was not even a deduction back then. I would take 0.1 for slight twisting on the table with a bent arm and 0.1 for lack of height. That's it.
Can someone translate in English what the commentator said on :17 secs? Kohei is a fabulous gymnast and this is a great vault.. but i don't think the difficulty is the same as Marian Dragulescu's vault in Athen's Olympics Event Finals.
+giocurve I think with his first statement "tobeta" he wanted to emphasize that it looked like Uchimura was literally flying through the air. Followed by "what a fantastic landing".
where did they get .4 in deduction?! holy cow.... I can only find .1 for feet apart on landing and MAYBE .1 for the knees being very slightly seperated before he blocked onto the horse but that's IT. AMAZING vault.
Yeah but the only reason that all/most of the vaults were reduced by 1.0 was so that team/AA competitions would become easier to follow, not that the vaults had gotten any easier in general; it's been a pet peeve that men's vaulting was the highest overall scoring piece of the six and it broke the scoreboard until every team and gymnast had done it. In the new CoP only two vaults were reduced anything less than 1.0, which were vaults that only one gymnast has done anytime recently.
Can gymnasts choose only one event, and never do the others? Is that possible? If they choose one event, is it allowed to go to the Olympics? Or they must have at least 3-4 or more events that they know well? Is it impossible to be outstandingly good at ALL events?
Uchimura had an equaly impressive vault on his way to winning gold in these olympics and for some reason NBC didn't show it. It was a great landing as well. My guess is NBC didn't want some Japanese guy to take credit over their girl, because in my opinion he was more impressive.
I said if he CAN touch his heels together, which he could have. If his legs are so far appart that he could not touch his heels together, then that would be a deduction.
@PasserBy869 It's a woman's vault being compared to a mans vault. Giver her props. She is clearly a foot above this guy in the air and she starts from a lower vaulting table.
Oh thanks for the answer, so an "all-around" gymnast means that he/ she is good at all the events:) OK clear:) Our gymnast, the hungarian Krisztián Berki is a pommel horse specialist....he is MUCH better and much more elegant(he is 182 cm) on pommel horse than any other gymnasts. I compared him to the other gymnasts..not a subtle difference! But...he is only into pommel horse....now I see the difference..it must be shagging difficult to be good at all events....!Respect for the gymnasts!!!
Okay wait so this one got a 16.200 but mckayla's london got 16.233 ?? What ? She didn't even 100% stick the landing and her form wasnt perfect unlike kohei's. This was an actual perfect vault.
@girolle01 ... You do know that it's pretty well known that she's been training a TTY, right? And one trick pony? I guess her nearly stuck 3.5 on floor means nothing.
Where do you take 4 tenths off on this? And then we wonder why the sport is dying… Uchimura Kohei is perhaps the greatest gymnast of all time, and would consistently receive execution scores in the 8s. Something needs to change. Big time
Non of these "16-18 year old girls" are anywhere near competing this vault like Uchimura does. Besides that Uchimura succesfully competed a triple twisting yurchenko, dragulescu , handspring double front and a handspring front wth 2,5 twist. It's not just this one vault that makes him one of the best if not the best ever gymnast, there's 5 more events he is awesome at.........
Since when is McKayla Maroney a vault specialist? She's won plenty of AA medals and floor and such. She's National Champion on floor, for heavens sakes.
Lol I don't get why people bring up McKayla Maroney and why NBC had to superimpose her vault over his from AA...it's useless comparing a female vault specialist to a floor and HB specialist! They'd have been better off comparing her to Tomas Gonzalez...or any of the other guys in the vault final doing double somersaults or Denis Ablyazin's half-on 2.5 to Maroney's full twist, but they wouldn't do that because it's like the message they were trying to pass is "girls are better than guys"...
I agree, but you don't have to land with your feet perfectly together. Read the code of points and you'll see. I'll be done replying now, thanks for your time.
Yes i have seen Maroney's vault., and yes it was great and I get your point. But I still don't see what it has to do with this video. I'm getting pretty tired of everytime somebody competes this vault it turns into a pissing contest over who competes this vault the best and how there is a girl who can compete it too. The ability to compete this vault does not define whether somebody is a great gymnast or not, not for MAG not for WAG.
Regardless of the five other events, if he is doing a vault that a sixteen year old girl like Mckayla Maroney can do almost perfectly, that really isn't saying much. I'm not saying he isn't an incredible gymnast. I'm just saying this alone does not prove it.
I tought her vault was impressive specialy because of the height he reaches but Uchimura in my opinion looks better and "cleaner" in the air, almost CGI. Either way, they both got screwed by the judges and got lower scores than they desserved
Not putting Maroney down but i just dont see her as an AA gymnast. Besides cant a specialist be good in 2 events like Tweddle whose also good on floor as well as bars?
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The dude deserves to be the best AA in the world because he's able to score at least 15 on all 6 routines
Good God; he sticks his landings like no other; fantastic!!
I know that Biles, Maroney, even Shewfelt are a bit higher... but this is soooo coool! he's in control every millisecond
+Felipe Montoya Not Biles, Maroney or Shewfelt can do these far harder vaults...the Tsuk 3/1, the Yurchenko 3/1, the Dragulescu or the Li Xauopeng--which is by far the hardest of all the vaults I've mentioned.
The Li Xauopeng have costed Dragulescu 2 World/Olympics titles, and the Korean Yang Hak-seon a World title and also my favorite vaulter, Denis Ablyazin, two titles. And since Uchimura is a 6 event gymnast with no weaknesses, his new super difficult vault makes him even more incredible.
Believe me when I say the Yurchenko 2.5 is an easy vault next to the Li Xauopeng. And earlier this year, Uchimura almost nailed it at the Japanese national, overpowering two of the only gymnasts who dared hope to challenge Kohei. With the Li Xauopeng, he extended his lead over his teammates by an even greater margin. This guy is amazing.
+Vette gaddia watch the comparison video for mckayla maroney vs kohei uchimura vault. She is clearly better
Lia Shani That comparison was to his vault in London. They compared her best ever vault to Uchimura's standard one in London. When else has she performed it that cleanly? Needless to say, he's long since upgraded his standard vault to the Li Xiaopeng.
Regardless, what makes him superb is his consistency, the mist important thing in the sport. That is exactly what Mckayla lacked in that final.
Guy Regensburger that one wasn't that clean tho lol
Out of all those people, Kohei's vault is the only one that is actually perfect
Kohei did a Triple Twisting Yurchenko at the 2010 Japanese Nationals. Also a Dragulescu. It's on youtube. He said he doesn't practice two vaults because it would take time away from contributing to team competitions, i.e. more time to practice other events where the Japanese team might be weaker (rings, pommel, etc)
A blind landing too! What a great gymnast :)
It’s been a big thing in the last few quadrennium to teach the spotting of forwards landings so they are not blind. He sees his landing perfectly accurately and it is simply like a jump half turn to stick. It actually takes quite a bit of training to get the neck accustomed to leaving it behind in the last half twist. He is a master of it.
Give credit where it's due. This guy is plain simply the best overall gymnast anyone has seen.
He may not be the best at every specifc apparatus, but he is certainly one of the best at every one of them.
He is probably go down as the greatest AA and overall gymnast of all time...
You would probably be correct.
Anybody watching this in 2020. That sound is so satisfying😎
perfection!
He is perfect !
I like his reaction too ^^
And he just made gold
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So sweet smile :-)
So underrated
Underrated?...where have you been the last decade? Lmao he’s literally considered by everyone to be the greatest male gymnast of all time, maybe even the greatest overall of all time
Kohei Uchimura. He runs like a girl and vaults like a god.
Here I am 10 years late, but that vault was phenomenal! Can you believe those perfect legs?!
Indeed. And he got a lower E score than people used to get for final scores back before they separated the D and E scores.
I love Chris Brooks laughing in the background. Hes way too funny. and an amazing gymnast.
Chris Brooks is a terrific person, too. A great man who really supported any fellow man with an always unbiased and genuine level of respect. I hung on an extra year or two, learned a few big skills near the end, and enjoyed the process of finishing my career, and a large part of it was thanks to that dude.
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Maroney has trained a triple twist briefly before and she's said that she would like to get it consistent enough for competition.
totally agree with you!
@aplusgymnastics Could you see anything wrong with the vault? I thought that the score deduction may have been to leave some room for judging depending on his position in the line-up, but other than that, it's one of the best vaults I've seen in a long time. Best vaulter I've seen since Vitaly Scherbo for accuracy.
It is called a Shwefelt- MAG and WAG often have different names credited for the same move. Such as the Def/Hristakieva and Marinich/Counter Kim.
No matter who does it first, (assuming they both do it) In Women's vault it will be the Maroney, and in Men's it will be called the Uchimara.
Now that is a stuck landing. Maroney's landing was a bit shady to me. Looked like she was about to step, but disguised it nicely with her salute. Uchimura has better form no doubt, but I think Maroney's lift might actually be higher.
Very true.
wag olympics was 6.500, sorry for the mistake...
btw its name is not 'yurchenko', but shewfelt :)
to be honest, apart from not getting as much height (which might be because he just jogs to the vault), kohei is by far the most consistent in the world at doing this vault. I've seen him stick this vault dozens of times and his form in the air is always perfect.
Can flexed feet in the roundoff which was the most glaring thing to me be a deduction? Everything else was amazing and perfect except the slight leg separation.
he a ninja
he WILL win the olympics!
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I love how Chris Brooks just really can't believe what he just say and is just sitting there grinning lol
Maybe Kohei said "Whose *&^$ do I need to suck to get more than a 9.6 on a perfect vault?"
Yes, there is a deduction if the feet are farther appart than the width of the shoulders, but not if they are slightly appart. And I just double-checked the code of points and there was nothing on deducting for feet slightly appart, or appart at all. You can land your feet slightly appart, and as long as you can touch your heels together, there is no deduction. You shouldn't be landing vault with heels together anyway, it's unstable and bad for knees.
At the p&g championships they did a side to side comparison of maroney and uchimuras 2 1/2 yurchenko. Maroney had significantly more air. They also pointed out that the horse is slightly higher for the men than the women. A little more distance from mckalya too.
Yeah but this is Kohei's safe vault. He does four other much harder vaults that Maroney can't do
She has not more hight that's fake in only looks like that cause she is smaller
yes but you should move you heels together as soon as you land or try to have them closer when you land. If the feet are apart as much as this, there is a deduction, what don't you understand about this?
Props to all of the Maroney comments. I had to legitimize the comparison between her and Uchimura one day at work. She's a vault SPECIALIST and he's a 3 Time AA World Champion and an Olympic AA Champion. Absolutely NO COMPARISON between the two. Gymnastics is about being good at everything, not just one thing. Or in the words of girolle01 "One trick pony Maroney"
I don't even know where the judges found 0.4 of deduction in this vault ... I'm also a gymnastic judge (level 3) and there is maybe 0.2 from my point of view...
Agree, I can't find anything on the round off, push from table or flight, he even opened it up in time, I found 0.1 to deduct from him not putting his heels together after dismount and final position :D I would love to hear the judges explanation how this vault could be executed 0.4 better :D
Do they deduct for flexed feed on the roundoff. They were very flexed.
@@VoimaVahtila And failure to put the heels together was not even a deduction back then. I would take 0.1 for slight twisting on the table with a bent arm and 0.1 for lack of height. That's it.
@@corystajduhar No. No deductions on roundoffs.
FIG should consider naming Kohei's landing technique.. :)))) Even Shewfelt thought FIG should take a picture of it and put it in the Code of Points.
Amen! Although Kohei can do 7.0 vaults though.. But he uses the Shewfelt (Le Amanar for guys) a lot.
Someone can explain me the deduction for this vault please? I really don't see 0.4 points... (Sorry for my English)
It's bullshit, the judges just wanted to take points off for no reason. There is absolutely nothing that can be taken off
i think probably amplitude, possibly shoulder angle on the table and maybe length? probably just had to be nitpicky
Can someone translate in English what the commentator said on :17 secs? Kohei is a fabulous gymnast and this is a great vault.. but i don't think the difficulty is the same as Marian Dragulescu's vault in Athen's Olympics Event Finals.
+giocurve I think with his first statement "tobeta" he wanted to emphasize that it looked like Uchimura was literally flying through the air. Followed by "what a fantastic landing".
where did they get .4 in deduction?! holy cow.... I can only find .1 for feet apart on landing and MAYBE .1 for the knees being very slightly seperated before he blocked onto the horse but that's IT. AMAZING vault.
If he perfects the Yurchenko 3 1/2 twist in Worlds, he can name it Uchimura. That would be awesome. \m/
He has leg seperation is pre-flight, and they could take for lack of height/amplitude.
Because the vaulting table of the men is 10 cm taller than the one of the women. That's the only reason I can think of
the deduction was from the celebration *throwing arms up in the air* = 5 tenths deduction
Yeah but the only reason that all/most of the vaults were reduced by 1.0 was so that team/AA competitions would become easier to follow, not that the vaults had gotten any easier in general; it's been a pet peeve that men's vaulting was the highest overall scoring piece of the six and it broke the scoreboard until every team and gymnast had done it. In the new CoP only two vaults were reduced anything less than 1.0, which were vaults that only one gymnast has done anytime recently.
Chris Brooks is like OMGWTFLOL Kohei is superman!
Ya, but Kohei can do a dragelescu which is way harder in difficulty. And Maroney is not cleaner than kohei on vault.
I'm pretty sure your can land with your legs shoulder width apart without a deduction.
Looked identical to Maroney's 2012 vault.
Can gymnasts choose only one event, and never do the others? Is that possible? If they choose one event, is it allowed to go to the Olympics? Or they must have at least 3-4 or more events that they know well? Is it impossible to be outstandingly good at ALL events?
Uchimura had an equaly impressive vault on his way to winning gold in these olympics and for some reason NBC didn't show it. It was a great landing as well. My guess is NBC didn't want some Japanese guy to take credit over their girl, because in my opinion he was more impressive.
so, is his vault also called the "Shewfelt" or the men's version of the "Amanar", or a different vault??
What! why did he delete it?!
Thanks for a resurrection of a great vault sir
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For me a better gymnast is the one who is great at everything, or what we called an all arounder... specialists are great tho...
He is a smoker.
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I said if he CAN touch his heels together, which he could have. If his legs are so far appart that he could not touch his heels together, then that would be a deduction.
@PasserBy869 It's a woman's vault being compared to a mans vault. Giver her props. She is clearly a foot above this guy in the air and she starts from a lower vaulting table.
The piked dragulescu is terribly underrated. 7.2 only?!??!?
correction. Mckayla Maroney scored a 16.233 during the olympic team finals doing the exact same vault...just sayin' and she's 16 btw.
can mckayla do this kohei uchimura vault aa final ?
no women can do that.
he deserves a 16.600
How can you discount 0.4 out of this?
@evoandy your feet are supposed to be like that when you land or u will hit your ankles together
Oh thanks for the answer, so an "all-around" gymnast means that he/ she is good at all the events:) OK clear:)
Our gymnast, the hungarian Krisztián Berki is a pommel horse specialist....he is MUCH better and much more elegant(he is 182 cm) on pommel horse than any other gymnasts. I compared him to the other gymnasts..not a subtle difference! But...he is only into pommel horse....now I see the difference..it must be shagging difficult to be good at all events....!Respect for the gymnasts!!!
Okay wait so this one got a 16.200 but mckayla's london got 16.233 ?? What ? She didn't even 100% stick the landing and her form wasnt perfect unlike kohei's. This was an actual perfect vault.
The vaults have different start values in women's/men's gymnastics, so there's no point comparing final scores
@@liyucha9452 Oh right. Hmmmmmm
where did they find a .4 to deduct?!! Where?!
why is he so good? He's a ninja!
@girolle01 ... You do know that it's pretty well known that she's been training a TTY, right? And one trick pony? I guess her nearly stuck 3.5 on floor means nothing.
Sorry, have you seen Mckayla Maroney do this vault?? id say shes pretty close lol.
but i do agree, Uchimura is the best.
yes but his heels are not together
Where do you take 4 tenths off on this? And then we wonder why the sport is dying…
Uchimura Kohei is perhaps the greatest gymnast of all time, and would consistently receive execution scores in the 8s. Something needs to change. Big time
Non of these "16-18 year old girls" are anywhere near competing this vault like Uchimura does. Besides that Uchimura succesfully competed a triple twisting yurchenko, dragulescu , handspring double front and a handspring front wth 2,5 twist. It's not just this one vault that makes him one of the best if not the best ever gymnast, there's 5 more events he is awesome at.........
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the shrewfelt (this vault) is only worth 5.6 in the new CoP.
It would be a travesty if Uchimura didn't win the All-Around in London 2012.
i know. i just said that as a response to this: "Non of these "16-18 year old girls" are anywhere near competing this vault like Uchimura does." -_-
Since when is McKayla Maroney a vault specialist? She's won plenty of AA medals and floor and such. She's National Champion on floor, for heavens sakes.
Kiera Davis she was a specialist for the team AA
Aly always beated her in floor , her higgest scores at world's was always in VAULT
i dont understand, where the hell are the judges getting .4 in deductions?!?!?!?!?!?
thats only in USAG...
Lol I don't get why people bring up McKayla Maroney and why NBC had to superimpose her vault over his from AA...it's useless comparing a female vault specialist to a floor and HB specialist!
They'd have been better off comparing her to Tomas Gonzalez...or any of the other guys in the vault final doing double somersaults or Denis Ablyazin's half-on 2.5 to Maroney's full twist, but they wouldn't do that because it's like the message they were trying to pass is "girls are better than guys"...
he only got 4 tenths deduction...
no their supposed to be together or else a deduction
I agree, but you don't have to land with your feet perfectly together. Read the code of points and you'll see.
I'll be done replying now, thanks for your time.
omg please stop comparing.....yes i know you have different opinion but this is kohei uchimura vids please respect
Yes i have seen Maroney's vault., and yes it was great and I get your point. But I still don't see what it has to do with this video. I'm getting pretty tired of everytime somebody competes this vault it turns into a pissing contest over who competes this vault the best and how there is a girl who can compete it too. The ability to compete this vault does not define whether somebody is a great gymnast or not, not for MAG not for WAG.
But he also stuck which is 1 tenth bonus.
逆に0.4点もどこで減点されてるの！？
Not true. They can be a little bit appart, as long as you can touch your heels together.
Regardless of the five other events, if he is doing a vault that a sixteen year old girl like Mckayla Maroney can do almost perfectly, that really isn't saying much. I'm not saying he isn't an incredible gymnast. I'm just saying this alone does not prove it.
his run with his arms straight is so wierd looking
he is a brilliant gymnast taking nothing away from him but you can not compare men to women or boys to girls lol
I tought her vault was impressive specialy because of the height he reaches but Uchimura in my opinion looks better and "cleaner" in the air, almost CGI. Either way, they both got screwed by the judges and got lower scores than they desserved
actually if McKayla does it than it will be called "The Maroney"
no not true... if the heels are not together, there is a deduction
Not putting Maroney down but i just dont see her as an AA gymnast. Besides cant a specialist be good in 2 events like Tweddle whose also good on floor as well as bars?
like si no entiendes un pepino😂😂😂
@ehill95 Well it was perfect but I thought on a stick ur feet have to be together , but I bet in London he will have it
Whoever came up with this retarded idea needs to be hung