I think an energy decrease and the addition of a perk could help it come back but then its basically a different weapon that lost its only unique quality
I miss the time when the medians where really special, like they didn’t use ammo and don’t have any explosion damage(which they still don’t) plus the fact that the bullets are really small. They’re like machinegun cannons I guess…with big single target damage and weaker against armor
i use naguals sometimes its fun cannon for destroying guns and movement parts :D and yes naguals isnt for kill cannons its support cannon for disabling enemy
14:37 Very true, but instead it seems like they add dmg buffs, modules and cabins and then design weapons around them to not make the combo as powerful.
If I’m not mistaken I think the median is the only reloading cannon that features only bullet damage. I feel like since it doesn’t have any explosion damage maybe it’s just meant to be a high velocity small diameter cannon
@@jonesdererste8658 They were special and had a use as you didnt need any ammo. Now i cant justify them even way down in the PSscores. They will need a perk outside of the ordinary to ever be viable again. And with viable i dont mean riding backwards in a straight line on a tuesday to activate it. The only reason i have them and upgraded them was the fact that i could have a non-exolosive build.
I like the medians. I feel they do better when optimized for reload, especially since the default damage is enough to take out most weapons with one or two shots.
dual Crickets upgraded for fire rate, jackie, reload module, harpy and the explosive co driver, is insane. Currently have it on a hover build, should probably try an Omni build, for the perk.
For Medians I use a set with reload fusion, plus Omnibox cabin I get 30% reload boost and with Bootstrap gen i can stay below 9k. With Apollo you could use a Flywheel for a total of 50-52% reload boost.
Medians are still good if you play specifically range afar but the ammo thing made it worse so you need to plan your shots. I usually snipe with them from the start some enemies. Degunning them quickly, immobilize or hit vitals if lucky. Even if they are trash, I think they are still quite fun to mess around with
I had a walker build with two medians and a Jackie and a reload module. Aim for weapons or cabins. Worked well and was fun to play. But that was before the ammo change. Now they dont stand out in that way.
Crossout is clearly missing a long-range single-shot high-damage long-cooldown weapon in the epic bracket, and perhaps even in legendary. The Median is the closest thing I have found to it, but it's durability is just too low to work on the maps in rotation with the meta being fast brawling and DPS builds. The Nagual is not the epic version of the Median as it is a burst fire weapon. If a weapon like a sniper rifle were introduced to the epic category, I think it would be an overwhelmingly good thing for the game and counter the ridiculously overpowered autocannons and brainless positioning of players observed in most games. Autocannons are essentially long range machine guns and should lose trading long range to a real sniper type weapon. At the moment the meta is all about high DPS short range brawling which doesn't promote strategic cerebral games but instead mindless rushing.
Crossout has always been avoiding super fast sniper weapons, because those would be too easy. The closest to that is Kaiju and Thyrsus, but those come with their own downsides. Also auto cannons lose out to cannons like executioner and tsunami on range. I agree with your take on how dumb the meta is. That is mostly a brick and underslung stuff issue. With cannons (like Mammoth) having lost their main counter in hitscan weapons and especially hammerfall/breaker, there is nothing stopping those to dominate on mid and close range. But let's be real, what autocannons are good at range?
@@PHOTON-v3r I saw 1 the last week and hits pretty hard. I was standstill at early match and he ripped me 1 weapon from his spawn. The dmg is good but it's a bit boring and hard to build because of the perk.
@ No, used to be solid before the penetration update. Then pretty good after and then useless since the nerf. The recent buff made it playable at best. But it suffers from W meta.
like wtf 2 hulk can do around same if not more than 3 medians targems forget these weapons you guys should feedback the developers with Q&A session back
Jb, you have made cabin tierlist some time ago... It would be so cool to see your opinions about the WORST weaphons in the game. Many, many weaphons are so useless, mabye developers would see your video and balance the game
I saw someone using nagual on hover and he was doing pretty damn good but it looks like he was a very good player so he’s probably doing good on every weapon🤔
Why are snowfalls cheaper than Medians? Last time I looked they were anyways. I tried medians at the lowest possible ps and as expected they are useless lol.
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Ngl the devs need to balance everything and actually make it seem like there's a difference between the different rarity of items. By that i mean that even after upgrading to an all epic build it feels like am still playing with my all special item build. Also new players are gonna have a hard time progressing till 6k ps even with the free builds that were gifted.
I disagree. They should have a lower energy cost and be much more durable. It's not all about DPS, we need weapons that dump damage in one shot at range to counter the silly brainless brawly meta.
The problem with the medians and naguals is that they arent very durable for the damage they give. Never played Naguals, but they seem fun, but Medians right from the start were never good enough... despite before the energy update they had a better energy consumption... 10 energy seems to much for them... maybe 8 or 9... Thing with many weapons and other parts theses days is that you depend a LOT of more and more suport hardware that you quickly rise on the powerscore brackets...
Jb can you see if we can get something done about Tsunami perk. Its way to slow now for how fast paced crossout is now. Who even is going to drop 2 15km 2 charge a perk. This perk is so outdated. Please DEVS change Tsunami perk.
Nags and meds both need to b less power, if u armor em up on a build ure ps is too high n they are ineffective, cause ure fighting puns scorps cycs, hell even equalizers that either strip or wreck u before u can reload n get a second clip off...there's a few other weaps on that list that need to be lowered as well
median and nagual are hover weapons....like Assembler for example - devs overbuffed it and now on hovers it will terrorise random! My friend told me that with all kind of combos + perks, 2 assemblers damage can reach 1300 which means 1 shot mamooth cannons! Thats why buffing hover stuff is too dangerous as they can cause serious ballance problems!
Fully charged Jackie + Assembler deals a little over 600 damage and takes almost 5 seconds to charge, I don't know where your friend found that silly number, but definitely not on a realistic build. A Mammoth with fin whale has almost 2k durability and the accuracy of a Scorpion. So you can just take it, put it on a whaler or BWC brick and W the hover, no matter what weapon to death. It deals 1.5k damage each shot and kills any hover with three hits into the center of mass. So even aiming is optional. Spreading fear of hover during the current state of Crossout is just silly. The only good hover clan still playing actual hover teams sometimes is L1VE and they dropped from gold to bronze over the time of this W meta and they did not magically become worse players. Median, Nagual and Assembler, no matter the powerscore or game mode, can be easily countered by a little attention and a fat cannon or anything underslung really.
JB, try out naguals with aggressor cabin + big foot wheels + jackie + reload module + engine for weapon rotating speed. not for a close combat, however it deals good damage. like this set up on open maps
Tbh naguals and medians dont belong into 9k PS anyway, same as raijin should not be epic weapon but legendary,if this game have normal devs they would balance game,but we have what we have and playerbase decline so wte
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Naguals may be useful if buffed
But Medians are pretty much dead.
Now that they also need ammo there is absolutely no reason to ever use them again.
I think an energy decrease and the addition of a perk could help it come back but then its basically a different weapon that lost its only unique quality
Quasars are in a good place right now you should make a video on them. Pls
20:39 thats me 😂 tryng to adjust a massive mamm in low ps, nice video JB !!
I miss the time when the medians where really special, like they didn’t use ammo and don’t have any explosion damage(which they still don’t) plus the fact that the bullets are really small. They’re like machinegun cannons I guess…with big single target damage and weaker against armor
i use naguals sometimes its fun cannon for destroying guns and movement parts :D and yes naguals isnt for kill cannons its support cannon for disabling enemy
14:37 Very true, but instead it seems like they add dmg buffs, modules and cabins and then design weapons around them to not make the combo as powerful.
If I’m not mistaken I think the median is the only reloading cannon that features only bullet damage. I feel like since it doesn’t have any explosion damage maybe it’s just meant to be a high velocity small diameter cannon
Not the medians I love these guys 😭
I love them too, but they really need some love
If crossout gave the medians a weaker perk of the revolver cannons. That would make the pretty awesome
How tho? Nothing about it is good 😂
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They were special and had a use as you didnt need any ammo.
Now i cant justify them even way down in the PSscores.
They will need a perk outside of the ordinary to ever be viable again. And with viable i dont mean riding backwards in a straight line on a tuesday to activate it.
The only reason i have them and upgraded them was the fact that i could have a non-exolosive build.
I actually sold my nargual but before then it was a fun gimmick weapon especially when it has infinite ammo
I like the medians. I feel they do better when optimized for reload, especially since the default damage is enough to take out most weapons with one or two shots.
dual Crickets upgraded for fire rate, jackie, reload module, harpy and the explosive co driver, is insane. Currently have it on a hover build, should probably try an Omni build, for the perk.
if you have the target heated you can deal 900 cabin damage per shot with medians and thats without catalina
For Medians I use a set with reload fusion, plus Omnibox cabin I get 30% reload boost and with Bootstrap gen i can stay below 9k. With Apollo you could use a Flywheel for a total of 50-52% reload boost.
Medians are still good if you play specifically range afar but the ammo thing made it worse so you need to plan your shots. I usually snipe with them from the start some enemies. Degunning them quickly, immobilize or hit vitals if lucky. Even if they are trash, I think they are still quite fun to mess around with
I complained for catalina, but for long distant weapons hovers and catalina are nice combo
I prefer hovers and torero for long distance that cabin has a stability perk for less buttel spread super nice for sniping
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I had a walker build with two medians and a Jackie and a reload module. Aim for weapons or cabins. Worked well and was fun to play. But that was before the ammo change. Now they dont stand out in that way.
It was more relevant when it was the only cannon that didn’t use ammo
If I looked at you in the game with those cannons and it's scary to see how my weapons fly away
naguals can be very strong when used on hover, I managed to get a lot of MVPs with them.
Median is kinda good because if you dont like to use autocannons, but you have the autocannon challenge, you can use a median to get the challenge
First match losing to a weapon-stripped bot capping is just salt in the wound 😭
Honestly the naguals need to fire like the shotguns are going to, not the most fun to play as they are
Naguals go hard if you can look past the weapon durability of actual wet 1 ply toilet paper.
@10:13 ...sry Hahahaha! that made my day 🤣
My only complaint is that you forgot to put the among us guy when you said “buuuuut”
They are pretty good sniping weapons with the Jackie I have a build that is pretty strong with them
did reload module on revolver works?
Love watching your videos, even if i don't play the game anymore.
Still liking the video even though Naguals are my favorite cannons :(
I have reload fused medians that I use on the omnibox, fast reloads
What happened to tankhead? Are there seriously no more than 3 missions?
Crossout is clearly missing a long-range single-shot high-damage long-cooldown weapon in the epic bracket, and perhaps even in legendary. The Median is the closest thing I have found to it, but it's durability is just too low to work on the maps in rotation with the meta being fast brawling and DPS builds. The Nagual is not the epic version of the Median as it is a burst fire weapon.
If a weapon like a sniper rifle were introduced to the epic category, I think it would be an overwhelmingly good thing for the game and counter the ridiculously overpowered autocannons and brainless positioning of players observed in most games. Autocannons are essentially long range machine guns and should lose trading long range to a real sniper type weapon.
At the moment the meta is all about high DPS short range brawling which doesn't promote strategic cerebral games but instead mindless rushing.
Astraeus it is
Crossout has always been avoiding super fast sniper weapons, because those would be too easy. The closest to that is Kaiju and Thyrsus, but those come with their own downsides.
Also auto cannons lose out to cannons like executioner and tsunami on range.
I agree with your take on how dumb the meta is. That is mostly a brick and underslung stuff issue. With cannons (like Mammoth) having lost their main counter in hitscan weapons and especially hammerfall/breaker, there is nothing stopping those to dominate on mid and close range.
But let's be real, what autocannons are good at range?
@ You don't see it much. Is it actually good?
@@PHOTON-v3r I saw 1 the last week and hits pretty hard. I was standstill at early match and he ripped me 1 weapon from his spawn. The dmg is good but it's a bit boring and hard to build because of the perk.
@ No, used to be solid before the penetration update. Then pretty good after and then useless since the nerf. The recent buff made it playable at best. But it suffers from W meta.
The medians where my favorite cannons because of infinite ammo
like wtf 2 hulk can do around same if not more than 3 medians targems forget these weapons you guys should feedback the developers with Q&A session back
Jb, you have made cabin tierlist some time ago...
It would be so cool to see your opinions about the WORST weaphons in the game. Many, many weaphons are so useless, mabye developers would see your video and balance the game
Lol the first match the guy that capped was stripped he drove right past u n u shot him once n let him go lol
Seeing you play with 200ms ping is wild… I have 160ping in EU Servers and i can barely play. Gaijin needs more western NA servers
I saw someone using nagual on hover and he was doing pretty damn good but it looks like he was a very good player so he’s probably doing good on every weapon🤔
i mean get good?) 3 up medians + jacky + griffon. 11k ps stable 1000-1200 score
oh man medians from best possbile canons to SUCKED cannons medains and naguls need BUFFS they really need it
ps merging shold be in so you have two 4k ps against one 8k and makes matches fuller
Why are snowfalls cheaper than Medians? Last time I looked they were anyways.
I tried medians at the lowest possible ps and as expected they are useless lol.
13:50 the algorithm is NOT gonna like that😂
Yooooo JB sorry ive been Quiet Ihave haf a lot on my plate...
Glad to see your vids are still amazing. Keep up the good work man😁😁
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LMFAO at the comment on the "Meme"
Na don't need to be trashed up. Nagual is such nice Degun "Sniper" weapon. But to weak for the high PS range. I like them. But still Tricky
Ngl the devs need to balance everything and actually make it seem like there's a difference between the different rarity of items. By that i mean that even after upgrading to an all epic build it feels like am still playing with my all special item build. Also new players are gonna have a hard time progressing till 6k ps even with the free builds that were gifted.
Just fix that broken power score system in the game
Medians should have a faster rate of fire they are supposed to be based of something like a bofors 40mm aa gun
I disagree. They should have a lower energy cost and be much more durable. It's not all about DPS, we need weapons that dump damage in one shot at range to counter the silly brainless brawly meta.
@ I get what your saying but they could slightly buff the fire rate
The problem with the medians and naguals is that they arent very durable for the damage they give.
Never played Naguals, but they seem fun, but Medians right from the start were never good enough... despite before the energy update they had a better energy consumption... 10 energy seems to much for them... maybe 8 or 9...
Thing with many weapons and other parts theses days is that you depend a LOT of more and more suport hardware that you quickly rise on the powerscore brackets...
13:00 why are you playing hells kitchen music
Jb can you see if we can get something done about Tsunami perk. Its way to slow now for how fast paced crossout is now. Who even is going to drop 2 15km 2 charge a perk. This perk is so outdated. Please DEVS change Tsunami perk.
Nags and meds both need to b less power, if u armor em up on a build ure ps is too high n they are ineffective, cause ure fighting puns scorps cycs, hell even equalizers that either strip or wreck u before u can reload n get a second clip off...there's a few other weaps on that list that need to be lowered as well
median and nagual are hover weapons....like Assembler for example - devs overbuffed it and now on hovers it will terrorise random! My friend told me that with all kind of combos + perks, 2 assemblers damage can reach 1300 which means 1 shot mamooth cannons! Thats why buffing hover stuff is too dangerous as they can cause serious ballance problems!
Assembler never reached that dmg not even fully charged. And devs are buffing that giving them more dmg but +1 energy cost
Fully charged Jackie + Assembler deals a little over 600 damage and takes almost 5 seconds to charge, I don't know where your friend found that silly number, but definitely not on a realistic build. A Mammoth with fin whale has almost 2k durability and the accuracy of a Scorpion. So you can just take it, put it on a whaler or BWC brick and W the hover, no matter what weapon to death. It deals 1.5k damage each shot and kills any hover with three hits into the center of mass. So even aiming is optional.
Spreading fear of hover during the current state of Crossout is just silly. The only good hover clan still playing actual hover teams sometimes is L1VE and they dropped from gold to bronze over the time of this W meta and they did not magically become worse players. Median, Nagual and Assembler, no matter the powerscore or game mode, can be easily countered by a little attention and a fat cannon or anything underslung really.
As long as scorpion exists assembler will be irrelevant
@demon5965 And they should be irrelevant compared to scorp
Assemblers can deal that much damage with photon and trombone. Just tested it.
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JB, try out naguals with aggressor cabin + big foot wheels + jackie + reload module + engine for weapon rotating speed. not for a close combat, however it deals good damage. like this set up on open maps
lol I was theWolf18413 ggs man yeah our fusion had like 15k health
Where tryna get it to 18k health
Tbh naguals and medians dont belong into 9k PS anyway, same as raijin should not be epic weapon but legendary,if this game have normal devs they would balance game,but we have what we have and playerbase decline so wte
Devs please fix this trash 😂😂😂
yeah game is unbalanced so much
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Naguals: gets an ability to fire its whole mag albeit with more spread, best used for both close and long range
Medians: gets an extra shot overtime, charges faster while cloaked, pairs well with phobos for maximum burst dmg
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