The Helen Keller Exorcism (ASL Translation) | Radiolab Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 17 мар 2022
  • From the Radiolab podcast: A Deafblind writer goes to battle with the mythical Helen Keller, only to find the “real” woman was more shocking than the legend.
    Fantasy writer Elsa Sjunneson has been haunted by Helen Keller for nearly her entire life. Like Helen, Elsa is Deafblind, and growing up she was constantly compared to her. But for a million different reasons she hated that, because she felt different from her in a million different ways.
    Then, a year ago, an online conspiracy theory claiming Helen was a fraud exploded on TikTok, and suddenly Elsa found herself drawing her sword and jumping to Helen’s defense, setting off a chain of events that would bring her closer to the disability icon than she ever dreamt.
    For more than a year, Elsa, Lulu Miller and the Radiolab team dug through primary sources, talked to experts, even visited Helen’s birthplace Ivy Green, and discovered the real story of Helen Keller is far more complicated, mysterious and confounding than the simple myth of a young Deafblind girl rescued by her teacher Annie Sullivan. It’s a story of ghosts, surprises, a few tears, a bit of romance, some hard conversations and a possibly psychic dog.
    CONTENT WARNING: Explicit language.
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    This episode was reported by Elsa Sjunneson and Lulu Miller. It was produced by Sindhu Gnanasambandan and Rachel Cusick, with help from Sarah Qari, Tanya Chawla, and Carolyn McClusker. Mixing help from Arianne Wack. Jeremy Bloom contributed music and sound design. Additional mixing by Arianne Wack.
    Special thanks to Georgina Kleege, Julia Bascom, Desiree Kocis, Peter C. Kunze, Andrew Leland, Sara Luterman, Alexander Richey, Will Healy, Nate Jones, Nate Peereboom and Pamela Sabaugh, who was our voice of Helen Keller.
    A transcript is available here: www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/..."
    A braille-ready transcript is available here: zpr.io/DnySwMBxsSZ2
    The ASL team is:
    ASL Deaf Interpreter: April Jackson
    ASL Feed Interpreter: Eboni Gaytan
    Additional ASL Support: Annie Dieckman
    Sound Design / Music Descriptions: Shannon Finnegan
    ASL Producer: Jeremy Bloom
    Illustration by Sabine Rear [www.michaelsabine.com]
    Video by Jeremy Bloom and Kim Nowacki
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Комментарии • 42

  • @TheRealHungryHobo
    @TheRealHungryHobo 2 года назад +21

    The interpreter does a really good job of implying the tone of voice people are using, which is really interesting to see. Most interpreters I see are rather mechanical, they just sign what the person said, not how they said it. And she also signs in a completely different manner, a different 'accent' I guess, with her head in a different position to denote different people talking.
    This is absolutely fascinating.

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 2 года назад +4

      This makes me wonder what interpreters you normally see... because I'm used to seeing this sort of wonderfulness in lots of ASL interpretations (and just people talking in ASL for themselves).. Not all, so I certainly believe you. I'd just encourage you to look up more. ASL is a beautiful language!

    • @TheRealHungryHobo
      @TheRealHungryHobo 2 года назад +2

      @@DavidLindes Most of the ASL I see is in government/official/political type stuff.
      It could just be that I'm always seeing ASL interpreters interpreting really bland boring people, so the interpreter is rather dry and mechanical too - maybe they've always been more emotive than I thought!

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 2 года назад +2

      @@TheRealHungryHobo that could totally be! Formal speakers in any language tend to be dry, it seems to me. :)

  • @jeannebrown669
    @jeannebrown669 2 года назад +12

    I am not hearing impaired but loved watching this interpreter! She is wonderful!

  • @1amybean
    @1amybean 2 года назад +6

    Fantastic radio production, as always-and what an opportunity to experience the story being signed by this amazing interpreter.

  • @KrakenEggs
    @KrakenEggs 2 года назад +6

    this is honestly great practice for my asl class, thanks radiolab!

  • @sharonvonsee3164
    @sharonvonsee3164 2 года назад +6

    This is amazing that the podcast is in ASL and Braille!!!

  • @hootsbuddie
    @hootsbuddie 2 года назад +2

    This remarkable radio broadcast caught me unexpectedly on the car radio and trapped me in the parking lot when I got to the grocery.
    Outstanding work!

  • @DanuelNuel
    @DanuelNuel 2 года назад +7

    Wow sign language interpreter lady is so cool and sweet! Kudos!

  • @jahnataylor3466
    @jahnataylor3466 2 года назад +3

    The interpreters grace and relevant expressions deserves a backstory.

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад +2

    That tree moment: Keller loved to climb trees; especially in storms [that's one big thing I remember from *The story of my life* when I read it 30 years ago - an elder friend lent it me]. And there were so many other adventurous moments.

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад +1

    And AS's health was slowly declining - she died eventually in 1936 - and the whole 1930s she was almost completely blind. Polly Thomson came in at that point. And then we remember that this was a friendship where both people are Disabled.

  • @alannaraffel5616
    @alannaraffel5616 2 года назад +3

    this is great!!

  • @TSquared2001
    @TSquared2001 7 месяцев назад

    As a former relay operator, seeing this in action is EPIC

  • @09thedrummer
    @09thedrummer 2 года назад +2

    Very cool!

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    And Keller herself spent a lot of time in New York [State] and Connecticut. I don't know if she used the subway more than once [it would be an interesting thought].

  • @SophieBee1
    @SophieBee1 2 года назад

    Interesting and sad but maybe quite an important story to tell about internalised ableism

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад +1

    *Pump up this sanitised version of her story* ... And the way HK created her own myth.

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    I can feel the *Radical Lives* and *Blind Rage* influence[r]s. And also - did the Katie Booth conversation make you want to join Radiolab?

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    I think too, of Major Miguel and the AFB people. Miguel was the one who really liked Anne.

  • @zapazap
    @zapazap Год назад +1

    Ha! The critics are so spicy!

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    What sayings of hers are magnet-worthy?

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    I hope that classmate's essay was not Inspiration Porn. Granted in 1997 or 1998 we would not have had a concept of it - but many knew how it felt. If it were an admiration among equals or those considered to be equals... And the humiliating context of being late [if Elsa took it as being a fact of New York life].

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    *Authentically lost* ... oh, yes. And Disability community helped lay the path.

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    So not only strong - MURDEROUSLY strong.

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    It made me wonder if the Guide Dog was trying to pick a book about itself...

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    And Sara *Luterman* ...

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    And of course - a horror story of *The Miracle Worker* ... #ifyoucantbeatthemhauntthem

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    Julia *Bascom* in the subtitles ...

  • @adelaidedupont9017
    @adelaidedupont9017 2 года назад

    "A very staid artifact" ... NO! The whole ideological conformance.

    • @Mainbusfail
      @Mainbusfail Год назад

      I never met a Dupont that didn't sound like a self entitled little bitch

  • @DavidLindes
    @DavidLindes 2 года назад +2

    So, Keller was a socialist... cool! And a bit of a eugenicist... ugh! Well, humans are complex, I guess. Thanks for sharing these stories!

  • @muffaloaf
    @muffaloaf Год назад +2

    She said She was partially def and blind. That’s what I believe Hellen Keller was.

    • @katherinemcmullen6766
      @katherinemcmullen6766 Год назад

      HK was profoundly deaf and blind.

    • @muffaloaf
      @muffaloaf Год назад

      @@katherinemcmullen6766 doubt it

    • @tracys2cents
      @tracys2cents 19 дней назад

      @@muffaloaf you can't even spell her name and you're gonna tell us who she was? Buzz off.

  • @skim2958
    @skim2958 Год назад +1

    is no one gonna point out that this woman Elsa isn't deaf or blind? Have you ever heard a truly deaf person speak?