MOD investigation after veteran says she was mocked by soldiers over her medals
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 31 май 2023
- The Ministry of Defence has launched an investigation after a decorated Afghanistan veteran says she was mocked over the service medals she wore at a Buckingham Palace garden party.
In an exclusive interview with Forces News, former Staff Sergeant Julie-Anne Fulford said two British Army soldiers questioned her about her medals which she said left her feeling hurt, disgusted and shocked.
In a statement, a Ministry of Defence spokesperson said: "We are extremely proud of Mrs Julie-Anne Fulford ARRC who wears medals hard earned, in the correct order of precedence, for her distinguished, exemplary and loyal service as a member of the Armed Forces.
"We are aware of an alleged incident at where Mrs Julie-Anne Fulford ARRC was confronted about her medals, which we are investigating further."
More: www.forces.net/women/mod-laun...
#forcesnews #veteran #britisharmy #army
Subscribe to Forces News: bit.ly/1OraazC
Check out our website: forces.net
Facebook: / forcestv
Instagram: forcesnews...
Twitter: / forcesnews
I served 30 years in the British Army and I would absolutely defend this soldier to the hilt, the nurses and doctors who serve in all theatres of war put themselves at huge risk for very little reward other than knowing they are saving lives, as a retired WO1 (RSM) I would dearly love to have the 2 scrotes in my sight line, believe you me, their feet wouldn't touch the ground. Well done Staff for speaking up!
Scrotes?
@@rammingspeed5217 Use your imagination.
Totally 100% agree with this main comment. Just shows how disrespectful these 3 young guys are and need putting in their place as the medics etc are also on the frontlines trying to save and patch up our soldiers they deserve big respect, they have mine.
@@Jib230181 the Mainstream media is disrespectful but everyone puts up with that
@@rammingspeed5217 scrotums
Every wounded or injured soldier will tell you what the nurses meant to them . I guarantee you those soldiers who mocked her have never been hurt and hospitalized
They only said she didn’t get a combat medal nothing more they obviously know her job is important but she isn’t under fire and my guess is if them troops were at buck house they were probably getting some pretty high up medal and not a cheers for turning up medal
yes i agree there they may need medical staff
@@MrTangolizardOr simply invited to a Garden Party
Thank you for your service, Ma'am. Wear your service decorations with pride and hold your head high.
Hold your head HIGH Staff Sergeant. You earned your medals/decorations. Be proud and ignore the ignorant. American veteran
I’m a retired veteran of the Canadian Forces. The individuals who mocked you are no doubt known. It would not be a major effort to identify & track them down. They should be standing in front of their respective Commanding Officers. Heals together. Staring straight forward while being dressed down. You should be present. They should apologize to you in his presence. Once you’ve left they should be dealt with via internal unit discipline. Perhaps a repeated activity for a month or so.
I am absolutely disgusted to hear how this veteran has been treated by serving individuals, who obviously do not demonstrate or apply the values and standards they are supposed to live by. I am also shocked by number of cretins who have also commented so negatively. Without the nurses and medics like this veteran, the death toll would have been far higher in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Congradulations young lady for your service. The fact that there are still individuals who treat fellow service members in such a manner is truly unfortunate. It is my hope that this incident will not discourage you from wearing the metals you have earned so proudly. Take care ❤
every service member has been treated like this on some occasion or another , its a rough place
@@MrBarefoot09 Sadly, that's is true to some degree and it shouldn't happen, but it does
To disrespect any veteran is appalling but medics and nursing staff save lives in dire situations and are very special people. More importantly they go out on patrols and serve under fire with fighting soldiers as this Staff did. Lets remember one young sailor Kate Nesbitt who was awarded the Military Cross for repeatedly going back under fire to tend to wounded soldiers in Afghanistan and save their lives. She was 21!
Female pilots and female gunners on Chinooks repeatedly flew into combat areas to medevac wounded soldiers (of all nations). Just as the nurses and medics on the Uganda in the Falklands war did miracles every day.
These women have guts beyond measure and save lives. They have earned and deserve the highest respect. Whoever those two Ludddites were they need to be named, shamed and kicked out of the Services.
Absolutely disgusting to hear a fellow veteran being insulted. Wear your medals with pride and honour, you've earned them!
Well done and sincere congrats. My wife's an NHS nursing sister (since 1982-still serving), I know how hard these women work for scant reward.
Scant reward lol they get paid don’t they
Military medics see more death, and the shattered lives in and from conflict. Often more than front line personnel. They, too, are real heroes.
Julie Anne "Staff" as a fellow Vet" RAOC" I am absolutely appalled at the treatment you have sadly have to endure, I RESPECT YOU STAFF for your Sacrifice to the British Armed forces, I feel ashamed to be a member of the British Armed forces for the Disrespect you have endured, But Please don't think every"Male" squaddie had it in for you, Me ! I Respect you and am so grateful to have a commrade like you, Thank you Staff Fulford, From an appreciative Brother in Arms,
I’m not British, still I hope such disrespect will not occur again. Tom.
I am disgusted and saddened by this incident, especially as it happened at a Royal Garden Party in the grounds of Buckingham Palace! Who on earth are they inviting these days? Well done Julie-Anne for your service, you've been in a lot more danger than I ever was during my service and a couple more war zones too. I fully agree with the RSM below and I would be pleased to see him (or her!) dealing with these scrotes.
I am apalled to hear that two serving soldiers were so disrespectful to an Army Veteran, I hope they are found, punished, and drummed out of the amred service with a dishonourable discharge. Thank you, Ma'am, for your service to our country!
Thank you for your service. Thank you for speaking out.
This women is an absolute winner. These were probably two army cadets that snuck off from their carers...
Thank you for your service Staff Sergeant.
Shameful absolutely shameful. I hope the cretins are identified and dealt with.
Its just part of the army , absolutely every male has also been put down , roughed up, bastardised etc on many occasions ,
@@MrBarefoot09 that maybe true... and is generally accepted while still in service, even this lady would probably agree to that...
But you don't ever belittle a veteran's service or awards and honours no matter who they are, unless you know them very well or are absolutely certain and have undeniable proof they're a Walt or bloating!
@@swampeh are you kidding me ? it happens constantly "my war was worse than your war" , "you were in the easy area" "our unit is tougher than yours".. you just gotta give them some shyt back because it is , and has always been the case.
Hope they’ll get demoted to the rank of private😏
@@MrBarefoot09 never ever experienced it myself or seen it from a current serviceman/woman to a veteran.
Used to see it when serving, 'they give medals in a box of cornflakes these days?' etc... And same from my veteran peers, usually they're known to me.. that's just banter. And yeah one generation to the next always had it worse than the other. But NEVER have I seen or witnessed a veteran being questioned or demeaned about their awards & honours unless they were provably walting or bloating!
And absolutely never seen heard or otherwise heard currently serving personnel questioning a veteran's awards and honours unless again they were definitely and provably trading off 'stolen valor' so to speak..
I never did it, never saw anyone else do it... It was always a case of respect for those that went before and had been there and done...
She was too generous calling them "gentlemen", tbh it shows the immaturity of some to denigrate another's contribution in the forces, this is why the forces is seen as enabling bullies.
Disgusting, well done for speaking up in such a dignified way Staff. 🇬🇧
As a fellow veteran, continue to wear your medals with pride. To be honest I have never seen an associate red Cross medal and I would have asked about it not questioned the right but just about the medal as its interesting and the history behind it. Stand tall and continue to be you. Ignore the small minded ignorant bullies.
How extraordinary. She has more medals than me….after 24 years as a Cold War warrior I only had two 🤣…..I hope the MOD can find these two men, more especially because they were serving.
Is that really worth the MOD’s time? Sincere question.
@@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG Yes. I’m part of the misogynist past (I’m 68)…..I thought this nonsense had all stopped. Women today engage in more war fighting than I ever did…..I did three desk sitting tours in NI in slipper city and two sun bathing tours in Croatia; hence only two medals…🤣
@@mikewinston8709 it just seems to be a minor event for the MOD to use it’s resources on. There are “mean” people in the world and word don’t cause real damage.
In the UK is it illegal to “misgender” someone?
@@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG Misgendering is perfectly legal in the UK…..it’s just the weak, wet and limp wristed woke that whine about it….🤣🤣
@@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG NI = Northern Ireland….slipper city is a euphemism for a headquarters …🤣
This is sad to hear. All those who serve in the military deserve respect, especially from fellow service personnel.
Absolutely disgusting, appalling behaviour. 🤬🤬🤬 I was an Infantry CPL for 20+ years then a RAANC LT for the last 5....I am re-enlisting after my Masters degree and I can tell you if I heard any of my Soldiers behaving like that I would charge them 🤬
I strongly suggest you read "A unit commander's guide to sentencing" and invest in a ton of personal liability insurance. I can assure you that "your soldiers" will dine-out on your money if you try to charge them (something you _cannot_ do due to lack of rank and/or appointment, you'd know this if you were educated in military law) and their legal representative(s) will add another easy notch to their belt(s).
@Bhurzum II maybe after his master degree he will be higher rank? Idk how this works I'm just guessing 😂...military seems high schoolish, no?
@@bhurzumii4315 what what rank can you charge a soldier? I was charged by a wo2 as a recruit but can't remember anyone below a Sgt charging anyone or any officers charging other ranks.
@@meme4one The soldier's commanding officer _or_ "an officer of field rank (or higher) who holds a land command _and_ who has been deputised by the unit commanding officer"
(basically, a major or higher)
A warrant officer _cannot_ charge a soldier. They need to apply to a higher authority (OC, CO etc) and ask them to do it.
@@bhurzumii4315 is that correct? In the RAF any NCO from CPL upwards can charge a subordinate.
However only a Commanding Officer (or delegated commissioned deputy of the unit/squadron) can legally award a punishment.
Julie-Anne, as a Male who served on active service and Operational duties way back in the 1950's, I am Ashamed and Disgusted that Males treated you this way.
You well and truly earned those Medals, please carry on wearing them with Pride and Honour at every opportunity
Its very sad and completely wrong. I'm so sorry you were treated badly but idiots are still common. Thank you for your service
A heartfelt thankyou for your service.
Shameful behaviour , we should be all proud of the Staffs’ service 🙌🏻
Thank you for your service!
They were no gentlemen.
This is an utter disgrace. Those young men should be thoroughly ashamed of their actions. Utterly ashamed. The authorities must step in,and,make it public. Drag them over the coals. Force them to publicly apologise for such a disgraceful,arrogant display of ignorance!!
The irony is that these two "men" would depend on this brave soldier, and nurses like her, should ever they have the misfortune to be injured. They are fools.........
This is disgraceful. This woman has more mettle than half the population. You should be proud! Hold your head up.
Are they
1. Higher rank than you?
2. Wearingmore medals than you?
3. More senior than you?
If not, you were authorized to chew them up and spit them out.
I cannot believe that people are still like that. As an ex-serviceman am actually embarrassed buy that sort of behaver.
Agreed
100%
Most medics have seen it all and then some. Well done Julie-Anne. Proud of you.
So where were their medals? Sadly this is a problem with some people, even if you have a VC to your name. This lady is worth more than those people.
Thanks for your service and those two ingrates that had the balls to chastise you about your earned medals in my opinion should be dishonorably discharged from the military.
Thanks for everything you did. Apologies for the bad mannered people you came into contact with.
For all they knew she could have save one of their mates lives. Leaves a bad taste that does. Have some respect guys.
Very much proud of what you have done and you should always raise your head up with pride
If there's no medical units, then alot of injured squaddies and foreign troops wouldn't be here. Well done ,staff. Ex T.A. infantryman
She's a veteran and deserves respect.
I am from Borneo and my country inherited the legacy of the British commonwealth military tradition。My country's armed forces won't tolerate such nonsense if such incident occured。
I'm from Barbados. I salute you SSgt.
We all support you ma’am we all support you and these idiots let them say to the faces of all veterans absolute disgrace we salute you and your service Ma’am Ex Veteran.
So disrespectful, how dare they
My dear, the important people in the world cherish your commitment to you code and we will always keep what you committed to your country is remembered. For all those who scoffed you, none would be as brave as you. Good bless you and keep you safe.
This lady is to be admired... As ex forces myself she has my total admiration.
I corrected a family member for mocking a woman on the television for her size; she was wearing medals that indicated she was a veteran. My father's first wife was ATS Provost and was a Normandy veteran. I was always very proud to accompany her in uniform on Remembrance Sunday. I would suggest that the ignorance is more on the part of 'old and bold' as the new generation are more used to serving with our female colleagues. I wouldn't tolerate this behaviour by anyone.
THATS THE QUALITY OF SOLDIER
I'm not surprised I served in the army and I had recently returned from leave after my father died and I was spoken to like trash by a Sgt while the whole sqn was there and nobody said a word to him
thats awful ive had to deal with some morons as reservist
@Tommy Atkins
Yeah, I served 4 years, don't get me wrong. I had some good times and still speak to some of the people who i served with . But unfortunately, bullying in the army is rife, and I don't see it ever being eliminated
@@seanmann7278 I agree I had bandsman threaten me, I had some jumped up officer..off duty gob off showing off in front of his mate or boyfriend, it wont be eliminated at all but problem is they will get promoted and god forbid we get another deep cut style incident
Good on you, keep wearing your medals with pride.
From New Hampshire USA. These low life ignorant fools are everywhere. Thank you for speaking out, it needs to be exposed. Much respect for your service.
The two 'gentlemen' in question will be easy enough to identify in an invitation-only event. If they are currently serving then surely the MPs will be interested in their bringing the Forces into disrepute. Surely anyone as unreasonable as them will also be infringing any number of other minor rules, go and check their billets and let's see what other charges they can earn themselves.
Wow, you really want to smack their nuts for having a bit of a gaff.
You seem like a rational person.
@@Raven_Frame Mocking a female's military medals was no gaff. The incident would have been much different if it was a male service member. I've seen that attitude here in the States. Those losers knew exactly what they were doing.
@@Raven_Frame If you're in a pub or if you know the person then fair enough. To interrupt someone, that you don't know, at a formal event to belittle their service? I dunno mate; By my book they need a slap.
Correct….easily identified.
@@Raven_Frame '..bit of a gaff'? You have no idea how in the wrong they were. To act in that way was outrageous.
I only have the 2 medals and I was viciously mocked because one was made from an old Russian cannon.
I'm guessing those two "gentlemen" were never in any real action, and certainly never had fellow brothers-in-arms wounded. If they had, they wouldn't just understand the importance of this fine woman's nursing job, they would have thanked her for her service.
Shocking that.
That they thought it was a George Cross, were arguing about it and were dumb enough to have to actually ask indicates to me they were in the Beavis and Butt-head Regiment. 🧐
My brother has the Ebola medal. It has to be the rarest modern campaign medal. He gets asked what it is all the time.
Callow youth, who have never, we may be sure, heard a shot fired in anger. Or held a dying patient in their arms as the wounded person took their last breath, looking up at you... Book these bozos on the hooligan flight to Amsterdam. And God bless you, Sergeant for your service & your upbeat attitude... love from a USA vet
Crazy how people mock people over medals, peoples priorities are wrong
You should be rightly proud of your medals and ckntribution. Thank you for your selfless work
C,Mon those of us who have served, we know. You have our appreciation and admiration. Was going to elaborate with profanity but no! Think we are bigger than that.
I agree with you your service is just as valid as any other if not more so ! Don't accept any disrespect !
You wear your medals with pride young lady you have rite , try and treat the ignorant as they deserve
From an old bootneck who wears his with pride.
Abominable conduct treating this soldier in that manner.
As disgusting as it gets.
An investigation over this? What a waste of time and resources
Celebrate the fact you’ve earned some medals for your service and have been able to return home to your family. I’m sure you have already reported being mocked and said individuals were given a jolly good telling off or you hopefully told them where to go. That should have been the end of it but to drag this non story to the media will do more damage than good especially if you personally wanted to see more females serving.
I'd expect mocking from brainless teenagers but I would *not* expect it from other soldiers.
That's *unforgivable* - they should be fired immediately.
When I wear mine on remembrance day, its usually other veterans who complain that I'm wearing "my dad's medals" on the wrong side. Of course, if you're a girl, then you clearly bought your medals on eBay....
🙏. . We come in all forms.Thank you for all you do. Woody QGJM
Some common examples of conduct unbecoming an officer include the following: Drunkenness on base or in a public place. Speaking with disrespect to or about an officer. Cheating on a training exercise that should sort the two A Holes
one day when these gobby sprogs might be in need of a female nurse to save their lives.
Bingo
Or a male nurse, or a female surgeon, or a female Cbt Med Tech...
The bad attitude comes from the top...😩
How dare they, unbelievable
Bet you anything they only have jubilee medal 😂
I’m ashamed and apologise about the behaviour of a number of my fellow male veterans.
If this really happened the way it was reported it is shocking behaviour
Wouldn’t worry too much about the two oik’s. You are probably too polite to point out that you either have equal or greater amount of operational medals than they do.
Hi,sorry for such negative comments from two serving soldiers. Wear them with pride you earned them well deserved. Just let it go over your head.
Celebrate the fact you’ve earned some medals for your service and have been able to return home to your family. I’m sure you have already reported being mocked and said individuals were given a jolly good telling off or you hopefully told them where to go. That should have been the end of it but to drag this non story to the media will do more harm than good especially if you personally wanted to see more females signing up. Sad.
Tbh soliders mock everyone. Hard. You develop a weird sense of humor especially that alot of people do not find funny. Especially women. Not making excuses. But anyone who knows KNOWS
Let me guess. A couple of Rambo wannabes consider all women in uniform to be unworthy.
How wearily predictable.
It depicts the qualities of those who join the services today.
Some soldiers don’t have honor. Even sometimes it’s grown adults like atleast 30 that act immature like this.
Congratulations. That's an unusual group of medals so you may get questions. The questions though should be motivated by respect not suspicion.
Make them do jankers,perhaps scrubbing a parade ground with a toothbrush,and she can point out any bits they miss😅
I can almost guarantee there are a couple of soldiers who will be doing the "hatless dance" sometime in the near future.
you have nothing to prove ... you clearly earned your medals and should be proud..
Veterans have the right to be respected, regardless of their sex, or ethnic background or disabilities, or age or if they come from LGBT community either.
What counts here, they served in HMF, that is all that counts to other veterans, they all were prepared to share the same risks and dangers,plus look after each others backs too. While carrying out their mission to protect others safety and so others could be safe in their communities too!
Whether you as a Veteran have been awarded medals or not, does not even matter, because others decide where you serve in the first place, then in the second place not everyone bravery earns them a medal anyway.
Most who are awarded medals, think they do not deserve them anyway, someone else should have been given the medal.
However disrespecting a person's medal won and been awarded to them, is the act or an idiot who has no respect for others and their bravery too!
Anyone who disrespects veterans, has no right to be invited to Buckingham Palace in the first place, also should never be invited to another Royal or Military event , especially a Buckingham Palace Garden Party for Veteran's again too.
The question is, will an MoD investigation here actually help anything here, as the MoD looking after veterans rights does not have a good track record in the first place anyway!
What can the Veteran's Minister do, write a letter to say sorry to the veteran abused, after the event has happened. Because nothing will happen to these two young men, who abused this former Life Saver Army Nurse and female veteran, what action can the MoD take Court Marshall them?
To all Life Savers, whether Army, Navy, Air Force Nurses, Medical technicians and doctors, thank for your caring of wounded service personnel and disabled veterans, your the best as far as we are concerned!
No one's coming out of this looking good.
Name them and remove their medals, how dare they!
There's always a few idiots. Thanks for being cool. ✊️
disgusting attitude ..ignore the nuckleheads! Well done you and thank you for your service.
I was mocked i left as bullying
Rise above the nobbers! Respect!
That's appalling. She earned those medals during her service. Here in Canada the Royal Canadian Legion awards each other medals and when they turn out for their observances, they are all festooned with Legion medals. The public knows no difference and think they're all heroes even though the closest connection a lot of them have with the Armed Forces is that Grandad served in WWII. Clown medals.