I wanted one of these - till I seen the $500 dollar price. Sorry, but that is absolutely ridiculous. I then nearly bought the ETone model - which is ~100, a fair price. But I fired up my 3D printer, used some old 3D printer parts from a deccommisioned printers - and built my own that works just as well for my 15xx and 25xx tanks and is easily adjustable. Jobo really missed the mark on pricing this product. I don't see why anyone would spend $500 on this thing when the $100 dollar Etone has a built in timer, speed, and reverses its rotation - all of which this can't do for 5x the price.
what's crazy is that the filmomat light is only slightly more than this at $550 and yet it has a tub to fill up with water and space for a sous vide and chemistry. the temperature control is so much better
honestly a beseler motor base can be found for less than $100, sometimes even cheaper in darkroom kits and can perform the same thing on both Paterson and Jobo tanks. Hell if you wanted something lighter and nicer the B's Processor is 3D printed and still only $160
The JOBO tanks themselves work perfectly when processing your film in a water bath! However, the Silverbase is an electrical unit that should not come in contact with water. Check out more information on the JOBO line of processing tanks here: ruclips.net/video/sEk29YehBds/видео.htmlsi=oHTNwHWJMvQadYXc
An utterly bizarre product considering the price. The target buyer is obviously someone who never developed anything. This part is not complicated. A regular tank is just as easy
It can also work with the 2500 series tanks - I use a 2520 for 4x5. However, this is not the product you want. $500 is an absolute rip-off for this. You can get the eTone processor for ~120 bucks and it has more features.
Ihr sprecht immer von unserer gemeinsamen Liebe zur Filmfotografie, aber mit eurer Preisgestaltung treibt ihr die Menschen zur Digitalfotografie. Ihr macht euch selbst kaputt.
@@Zetaphotography Easy, I bought off amazon : extruded aluminum rail, t-nut fasteners & brackets, one nema 17 stepper motor and bracket, one adjustable stepper controller, and a pack of rubberized rollers meant for 3d printers. I then 3D modeled the brackets for the rollers. Mounted the electronics in a plastic box I had laying around. I spent less than 1.5 hours on modeling, and assembling. The unattended 3d printer time was less than 3 hours an used less than 5$ in plastic.The only tools I needed was a bit driver set, and a 3d printer (and the 3d printer I used was only a couple hundred bucks.) The one I built works perfectly with my Jobo 1500 & 2500 series tanks and I am going to make an adapter to actually spin my stearman for 4x5. I spent less than $125 bucks in total for parts to build my own that doesn't wobble, and is expandable. If I want to spend the time later, I can add a timer or reverse rotation. Even if I "paid myself" $100 an hour - I came out way ahead. If I don't count my labor as a cost - I could buy all the parts, the tools, and the 3d printer and come out less than the Jobo unit. There is zero reason the Jobo unit should cost anywhere near $500. It isn't a hard engineering task to spin a round object like a Jobo tank.
I wanted one of these - till I seen the $500 dollar price. Sorry, but that is absolutely ridiculous. I then nearly bought the ETone model - which is ~100, a fair price. But I fired up my 3D printer, used some old 3D printer parts from a deccommisioned printers - and built my own that works just as well for my 15xx and 25xx tanks and is easily adjustable. Jobo really missed the mark on pricing this product. I don't see why anyone would spend $500 on this thing when the $100 dollar Etone has a built in timer, speed, and reverses its rotation - all of which this can't do for 5x the price.
what's crazy is that the filmomat light is only slightly more than this at $550 and yet it has a tub to fill up with water and space for a sous vide and chemistry. the temperature control is so much better
Show a comparison video
honestly a beseler motor base can be found for less than $100, sometimes even cheaper in darkroom kits and can perform the same thing on both Paterson and Jobo tanks. Hell if you wanted something lighter and nicer the B's Processor is 3D printed and still only $160
You actually compared this to a Bessler?
@@Zetaphotographyyes it's an affordable option. The B's processor is still a massive upgrade from this
Awesome. So the DF96 I dictates processing to native ISO. What about push pull adjustments ? Or how do I calculate my push times from Kodak D76 X-Tol?
Can this be used in a water bath?
The JOBO tanks themselves work perfectly when processing your film in a water bath! However, the Silverbase is an electrical unit that should not come in contact with water. Check out more information on the JOBO line of processing tanks here: ruclips.net/video/sEk29YehBds/видео.htmlsi=oHTNwHWJMvQadYXc
An utterly bizarre product considering the price. The target buyer is obviously someone who never developed anything. This part is not complicated. A regular tank is just as easy
$500...crazy
I saw this announcement about 1yr ago.
Glad Linus is doing this review.
The video shows a bad wobble. How bad does this leave uneven processing
a question, is this for 135 and 120 only?, or can you do 4x5" sheet film in those tanks, or will a tank compatible with this sheet film work in this?
It can also work with the 2500 series tanks - I use a 2520 for 4x5. However, this is not the product you want. $500 is an absolute rip-off for this. You can get the eTone processor for ~120 bucks and it has more features.
too much $$$$. ill make a 3d print model and then leave it opens source
Do it
Ihr sprecht immer von unserer gemeinsamen Liebe zur Filmfotografie, aber mit eurer Preisgestaltung treibt ihr die Menschen zur Digitalfotografie. Ihr macht euch selbst kaputt.
Can you use it for color aswell?
The price I can understand if it was the 90s. Kind of overpriced when you can know how to 3d print it and tinker with a raspberry pi.
Ready Go! Let’s see how long it takes you at whatever HR you pay yourself and then compare that to this.
@@Zetaphotography Easy, I bought off amazon : extruded aluminum rail, t-nut fasteners & brackets, one nema 17 stepper motor and bracket, one adjustable stepper controller, and a pack of rubberized rollers meant for 3d printers. I then 3D modeled the brackets for the rollers. Mounted the electronics in a plastic box I had laying around. I spent less than 1.5 hours on modeling, and assembling. The unattended 3d printer time was less than 3 hours an used less than 5$ in plastic.The only tools I needed was a bit driver set, and a 3d printer (and the 3d printer I used was only a couple hundred bucks.) The one I built works perfectly with my Jobo 1500 & 2500 series tanks and I am going to make an adapter to actually spin my stearman for 4x5. I spent less than $125 bucks in total for parts to build my own that doesn't wobble, and is expandable. If I want to spend the time later, I can add a timer or reverse rotation. Even if I "paid myself" $100 an hour - I came out way ahead. If I don't count my labor as a cost - I could buy all the parts, the tools, and the 3d printer and come out less than the Jobo unit. There is zero reason the Jobo unit should cost anywhere near $500. It isn't a hard engineering task to spin a round object like a Jobo tank.
$$$😮
You always talk about our shared love of film photography, but with your pricing you drive people to digital photography. You're destroying yourself.