there's an awesome ook about how splitting them up (triplets in this case) can backfire and the repercussions that can have on the children. its called Three Black Swans
I agree who the fuck do they think they are and they dare to split the twins no like no you cant just split siblings up and they are twins which makes it worse
for anyone who wants to know the update on the situation “UPDATE: I never considered that this could’ve happened on purpose. We used condoms because I do not react well to hormonal birth control and I had to wait to get a non-hormonal IUD because of other medical issues. The Thursday I posted this, I went to the police and they stated that there was nothing they could do because a crime hadn’t been committed. In my state orders of protection are criminal or family so I was able to get one against Joe. On Friday, I did get a lawyer and they let me know in my state there was nothing I could do as far as custody before the babies are born, so I will be leaving my state soon to ensure that this isn’t my babies home state and I can’t be charged with anything. However, someone sent this post to Kim and she came to my job, damaged my car, and broke a bunch of office windows. I work with kids so she was arrested for not just the criminal damage and trespassing but also child endangerment so hopefully that works in my favor. Also if Joe did it on purpose, I don’t think Kim knew, because she was screaming at me about how I stole her life and everything I had was supposed to be hers. Update: I have orders of protection against both Kim and Joe. I left the state anyway and Joe and Kim started harassing me again because there’s no legal jurisdiction when you leave the state, but I have enough evidence that I was able to press charges in my current state as well and will be pursuing a restraining order here.”
Good for you stand up for yourself and your babies! This is low key predatory they are just trying to use you with zero care of how the kids turn out. Keep fighting
Yeh no that women needs to either get an ACTUAL surrogate or adopt. Those are not her children I hope the women who IS the mother can file for full custody. Edit: Or not have ANY KIDS like sorry umm she kinda crazy....
I'm not sure how it works in the US but in the UK if the father isn't on the birth certificate then he has no legal rights over children. She needs to not put his name on it so he can't get rights this would stop Kim being in their lives.
Kim and Joe. Joe is way off himself to even let Kim do the genealogy thing. He isn't working with a full deck. I'd be desperate enough to throw some other guy's name on the birth certificate.
Dude that literally happened in WA and the women died but they caught the crazy chick that did it and gave her life in prison. You can look it up it was big news when it happened. The baby survived and is like 12 now
Id honestly ghost them and move far away. This was actually a disturbing situation. The kids can live without a dad thats fine because the dad is enabling her which means something deeper as well. I also wouldn't feel comfortable having those kids visit their dad with kim around them.
“My job won’t give me maternity leave because I’m not pregnant, I share no DNA with the baby in question, and am also not even the stepmother. How could my boss do this!” Does she realize how idiotic she sounds
Honestly I thought about that too. But I fully don't think that Kim knew especially since she was upset at first. I think Joe thought this would be a way to make Kim happy. He probably even told her some bs about him getting custody and that she would become the mother.
@@marymohr2799 even if Kim “prefers” home births that has nothing to do with OP lol she’s in no way related to these babies she doesn’t get a preference.
All I keep thinking about is those crime shows where crazy women cut the babies out of the mom right before they’re about to be birthed and then killing the mom and taking the babies as their own
I need a update in a few months because the fact that she ruined the moms gender reveal by posting it. I would not let her in the birthing room and I would not let Joe sigh the birth certificate.
If she's in the states keep his name off the birth certificate and give baby her last name! Dad has zero rights since they aren't married! I'd disappear and they'd never see me or babies again 🤷🏼♀️.
You have to dissolve the parental rights in most states but that can be done with out Joes consent. I bet if she does that Joe will wonder abt the choices he made and those kids for the rest of his life.
From Michigan here, and I tried this (abusive ex) and when my son turned seven the state found him and forced him to pay child support even though I told the state that I wanted nothing to do with him. They also told him he had to pay for a new birth certificate, but I freaked out and insisted that he stay off it. The judge basically told me that he would have to “want to”. So far, he’s kept his distance. My son is almost 15. Whew! Not every woman/child is so lucky.
Keeping the name off the birth certificate is nothing. A father can easily court demand for a paternity test and claim rights as a father should be able to. You can’t just take a baby and run just because a paper isn’t signed.
Kim just making herself look crazier each time they mentioned her. How are you going to go to a pregnant lady’s job? So embarrassing and uncalled for, this is scary
She’s should get a restraining order against Kim, sue for full custody and the father can have supervised visitation without Kim. This is insane. I’m scared for the Real mother’s safety. Please do more updates when she has the baby
Shameless people! They could adopt if they want. But don't claim a child of someone. And you really dare to seperate the twins!!! This made my blood boil😡
Mine. I let one of my son's dad know he might be the dad. He had the nerve to ask me if he could have my baby since I already had one. Like wtf? I told him fuck no. But then he got all offended when I asked if I could have one his daughters since he had 2. At least he got the point.
@@prettylyons2880 You're baby daddy is a hypocrite. He wants to get your son but doesn't want to give his daughter. At least you teach him a lesson. Nice move, dear. Serves him right.
My aunt on my dads side was infertile and actually had the nerve to ask to one of us when my mom found out she was having twins. My grandma even tried to guilt trip her into it. SO happy me and my twin did not end up with her.
@@Lovethyself887 sometimes people are told they can't have kids and they still end up getting pregnant down the road. Obviously not always, but it does happen.
@@1sTEfFaniE1 my sil was told she couldn't have any before l by the age of 19 she has 2. My mil adopted my husband after being told she couldn't have anymore and ended up pregnancy 3 years later
@@1sTEfFaniE1 I never said that isn’t possible. Some people are wrongly diagnosed as infertile when it might be due to another issue in the organism or it could be temporary infertility. But for her it is permanent and has been around since she was 14 and due to ovarian cancer. That is why she is going for surrogacy where she wants eggs donated from a cousin so she is related to her future adoptive kid.
Wow. Just wow. I’m an adoptive mom of twins and was involved with the birth mom from around 3 months. I mean like texting, visits, Dr appts, etc. Never once did I take over her pregnancy. She was their mother until their birth. I can’t imagine acting like this to someone who is not adopting their children!! This is unreal!! Step mommy has real mental problems and needs to be out of the picture! Mom-you are NOT an asshole! These are YOUR children!! Protect them from this craziness!! You know what’s best for them!!
@@b2kzangelalwayz if you are trying to say that ‘Kim’ is still the mother you are terribly mistaken. Kim has no genetic relation to these children and the biological mother of these children clearly wants nothing to do with her and do not want her to be involved in the children’s lives. It is disgusting behaviour on Kim’s part. It is the equivalent of walking up to a random pregnant woman and demanding that you be apart of the children’s lives. At the end of the day these babies are and always will be the biological mothers children and Kim has absolutely no obligation to be in their lives
@@georgialeach1305 I think b2k meant the biological mom of Kayla's twins. Kayla writes "she was their mom until birth" and b2k means to say bio mom is still a mom. Not here to give opinions on this, just to let you know so you can judge what they're actually saying. I think everyone understands Kim is batshit crazy xD
I say she needs to look over HIPAA Laws in her state and make not that no one can ever release medical info to the both of them, as well as have every school they attend in the future have documents on file that they are not to be taken/picked up at school by them as well. I’m concerned that they could make attempts on stealing the kids later in life.
Justin made a really good point about Kim possibly implanting negative messages to the kids’ heads. As a teacher’s assistant, I have seen this exact thing happen before. It’s so heartbreaking to see my student’s confused about which parent they should/shouldn’t like, unsure how they should feel, so on so forth.
As someone who went through it as a kid I completely understand it messed me up for years and I’m honestly still not ok from it my parents separated when I was 4-5 divorced at 8 and my toxic stepmom was there since 4 planting things in me same with my dad and mom about each other it finally stopped when I was older and I put a foot down but it’s truly a horrible thing to have that happen. And with this case could be much much worse.
The mom needs to document EVERYTHING the family is saying and present it to the court. She needs full custody immediately after and the father and Kim shouldn’t be allowed to see the babies.
Kim's mom told OP that she should give Kim one of the babies, I'm sorry but but twin children are not like a litter of puppies, you don't give one away simply because you had two (I know that some people do this and it's wrong).
The Mama vs Mommy thing is so manipulative. My daughter is 20 months old and only says Mommy occasionally. It takes a long time before children say words that are two syllables of different sounds. Mama is much easier to say and comes much earlier. You know Kim is going to lord that over her as much as she can.
someone sent this post to Kim and she came to my job, damaged my car, and broke a bunch of office windows. I work with kids so she was arrested for not just the criminal damage and trespassing but also child endangerment so hopefully that works in my favor. Also if Joe did it on purpose, I don’t think Kim knew, because she was screaming at me about how I stole her life and everything I had was supposed to be hers.
My friend went through something super similar. At 14 she became pregant, the father was a 15 year old boy who frequently got in trouble with police for petty offenses and soon he was on probation and moved back to his home state far away from her. She was unsure about what to do about her pregancy, and eventually she waited too long to make a decision , and it was made for her. She told her family and her grandparents who raised her were supportive, but her older brothers wife was bitter and jealous. Her sister in law was unable to have a child of her own, and was so angry at her. She said to my friend , a 14 year old girl , that “it’s unfair you got pregant your first time , without even trying when you didn’t even want the baby”. Her SIL wanted her baby from the beginning. Once the baby was born my friend raised it for a while with a lot of her grandparents help. But she missed being a kid and her SIL was still harassing her , telling her to give the baby to over to her , that she was an unfit mother. Eventually my friend gave up her parental rights and her brother and SIL adopted the baby. Shortly after he brother molested her , and her grandparents told her if she went to the police she’d be kicked out. So now a predator is raising her daughter. And she can’t go to the police and it’s too late to undo the adoption. Her brother and SIL never let her see her child , except holidays , and she’s never allowed to be alone with her child. She’s also not allowed to tell her daughter that she’s her real mom. It’s heart breaking
My ex had a girlfriend who tried to teach my girls to call her mom. I put a stop to that straight away. Then about 7 years ago my ex tried to kidnap my girls, 2nd attempt, but this time he tried to go outta state. One of my girls isn't even his. There's so much more. he found where I live now and has called the cops for a "well-care check" twice in one day. I informed the cops of the situation and if he shows up they told me to call them. I live in a small town so I know everybody. To my advantage 😁 and I mean everybody. Cops, sheriff's, lawyers, judges, this is my town. Fuck with me. 😁
To the lady who’s story this is if you read this please seek legal help as soon as possible I am worried for your safety with these people maybe we watched too many crime shows but you never know with crazy people in this world so please please make sure you are getting the help you need to keep your children away from these people
Yea I came here from TikTok in .03 seconds. Kim is nuts and she clearly gets it from her psycho mom! I would move out far away. Sounds like a HORROR MOVIE.
@@odettebarrette it reminds me of a criminal minds episode where this guy kidnapped a bunch of women and raped them then made them give birth. The wife would help birth the kids and choose if she wanted them. She would only keep the blonde haired blue eyed kids and they would drop the rest off at churches and stuff. That episode shook me
Smart to move out of state. I would not put him on the birth certificate either. If she wants to establish paternity in the future she can do that but she can never go back & remove him
Update: “I have orders of protection against both Kim and Joe. I left the state anyway and Joe and Kim started harassing me again because there’s no legal jurisdiction when you leave the state, but I have enough evidence that I was able to press charges in my current state as well and will be pursuing a restraining order here.”
It seems planned just because she said they always used condoms and etc. then she gets pregnant... he could’ve done something to the condom.. it seems like they did it on purpose
Why did she want her to have a home birth? That makes me think even more that she wanted to steal the babies from her like as she was giving birth, like they said she could be trying to get rid of her and keep the babies... there’s literally a movie about it..
As a “kinda-step parent” (or as their mom calls me “a bonus mom”) people like this are awful. My bf had an ex that tried to get his oldest to call her Mom. It’s disgusting. How are you going to claim someone else’s child(ren). I may not have kids, I don’t know if my body can handle having kids, but I love my future step-daughters. And at the end of day, I respect every boundary their parents place, because it isn’t my place to make those decisions. Nor will I ever try to.
She got SO lucky that they showed their colors before the babies were born. Can you imagine what would have happened if they were smart enough to put on an act until after she had the twins? I feel so bad for OP glad she was able to get the hell away from them and they couldn't get their gross hands on her babies!
This reminds me a lot of my ex step mom and my biological dad. The same thing happened to my mother and they both ended up getting cut out of our lives. My mom has full custody of us but we do visit our dads side of the family every other year
Fetal kidnapping happens more than people like to acknowledge. It's terrifying! Shes legitimately so entitled that she wouldn't see anything wrong with kidnapping these children and she has people that proudly enable her. No ma'am get a lawyer and a restraining order IMMEDIATELY.
This young girl’s best bet is keeping both of them out of the hospital when the kids come. Because she is not married to Joe, fatherhood is not assumed and he cannot sign the birth certificates without her consent. Keep him away from these legal documents! He is proving to not be a safe place for your children.
If i were in her shoes my Joe would not be able to see his kids while in a relationship/contact with Kim and even if he was able to see them he wouldn’t be able to with her present. I would not put him on the birth certificate and if they tried to fight for custody I would take full and say that they weren’t his kids and leave the state.
@@annareed5277 Right but that doesn't prevent Joe from taking her to court for visitation. The court would order a paternity test and he would be given parental rights.
@@Iblamedonna Hey! Once there is already a legal father paternity tests don't matter :) That's why the legal father has to pay child support while the biological father usually doesn't have to in these cases because legally the biological father is not the father. The only thing that matters is what's on the B.C. I watch alot of paternity court haha
I hear stories like this and realize I’m so lucky that I’m pregnant with a loving husband. This is insane. Kim’s behavior sounds delusional. Not to mention how your hormones can make you super sensitive in pregnancy and having to deal with the extra unnecessary stress. I would suggest she gets far away from Kim while pregnant (in the least).
Ugh this reminds me of my ex MIL who literally assumed I was going to give my baby to her and told me to name my baby after her And made my daughter call her mama and a bunch of other crazy stuff🙃
She needs to move to Florida. If they aren’t married he has to take her to court IN FLORIDA to even attempt gaining rights, and with the arrest of his “fiancé” against the mother no judge would give him any rights.
I’d move out of state for the time being, and get a family lawyer NOW! She of it’s feasible to get a restraining order because of the harassment. Wow. Run to the lawyers office now!
@@TwoHotTakes here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/aCWJ2rHTUko/видео.html His response starts at about the 7:15 minute mark! Normally he will delete it if it gets negative responses in the comments but it’s still up for now. I love your content by the way! It’s my favorite thing to listen too at work 😁
@@Cyn.Cynical he ends up basically telling OP she’s still kind of an asshole because the father didn’t do anything wrong? That’s really paraphrased I watched it a few days ago. Here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/aCWJ2rHTUko/видео.html His commentary starts at the 7:25 minute mark
@@Sporkyboi I just saw it 😬 I don’t agree with his opinion- at all- yikes... while he is right that Kim is completely insane, I think he might’ve skimmed/misread some of the post to come to the conclusion that OP is a bit of the AH given the circumstances- yikes 😬
This girl is way too patient with this Kim person. She needs an order of protection against Kim now! If Joe wants to see his kids he's going to have to see them somewhere Kim isn't.
I would somehow say this isn’t his child and that it’s someone else’s or something and not let him sign that birth certificate. I don’t know if this is possible though. This is going to very toxic.
That’s crazy! Their not her babies she is just the step mom. Kim is acting like they are hers and they aren’t! Don’t trust her! Get a lawyer! And the mother saying split them! WTF! Don’t let them take your babies.
This is just crazy! Kim needs to get her head on straight like she is giving me really bad vibes! I hope this girl never lets her kids near Kim! I could understand letting Joe seen them while he is supervised. I pray this girl and her kids are okay and nothing happens to them.
This reminds me of “Unsolved Mysteries” when women who have infertility problems steal other people’s babies and raise them as their own and the child doesn’t find out who their real parents are until they are much older. Kim sounds like she would do something like that.
RUN GIRL- FAST & HARD. Praying for you and your babies. You’re their mother stick with your family. I’m glad to hear you got an attorney and to hear that even though you couldn’t do much initially I am glad Kim fumbled publicly and was arrested.
WTFFFFFFF....you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Get an attorney now, start collecting evidence of her crazy behavior and prepare for battle because she's the one that's going to push baby daddy to get custody. And for her safety and baby's safety, DO NOT PUT FATHERS NAME ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR HAVE HIM SIGN IT.
I love this channel and I’m honestly addicted. It reminds me of innocent gossip with my sister whom I now am all of the way across the country from. Imma send her some videos so we can discuss drama like we used to 🥰
What if they both planned her getting pregnant since the “step mom” can’t have kids. They “break up” for a while to look for the right girl to have the baby ???
I read this one wuite a while ago on reddit and i even had a nightmare about it. I'm so worried about this woman i don't know and will never know, this is a literal nightmare for her.
First off, this story is so insane and I can imagine how crazy this feels for OP. Second, at a twin myself, I find that them offering you to give one kid to be separated from the other is blasphemous. Treating kids as an offering or some s**t
They keep saying “split the twin” like they’re a freaking bag of M&Ms like no honey. No way.
Right and they’re not even thinking about the twins like if I had a twin I’d be mad and upset about the fact that we’d be split up
there's an awesome ook about how splitting them up (triplets in this case) can backfire and the repercussions that can have on the children. its called Three Black Swans
Right and I’m not even splitting a bag of m&ms let alone splitting twins
@@charleneturner4205 Fr!
I agree who the fuck do they think they are and they dare to split the twins no like no you cant just split siblings up and they are twins which makes it worse
for anyone who wants to know the update on the situation “UPDATE: I never considered that this could’ve happened on purpose. We used condoms because I do not react well to hormonal birth control and I had to wait to get a non-hormonal IUD because of other medical issues. The Thursday I posted this, I went to the police and they stated that there was nothing they could do because a crime hadn’t been committed. In my state orders of protection are criminal or family so I was able to get one against Joe. On Friday, I did get a lawyer and they let me know in my state there was nothing I could do as far as custody before the babies are born, so I will be leaving my state soon to ensure that this isn’t my babies home state and I can’t be charged with anything. However, someone sent this post to Kim and she came to my job, damaged my car, and broke a bunch of office windows. I work with kids so she was arrested for not just the criminal damage and trespassing but also child endangerment so hopefully that works in my favor. Also if Joe did it on purpose, I don’t think Kim knew, because she was screaming at me about how I stole her life and everything I had was supposed to be hers.
Update: I have orders of protection against both Kim and Joe. I left the state anyway and Joe and Kim started harassing me again because there’s no legal jurisdiction when you leave the state, but I have enough evidence that I was able to press charges in my current state as well and will be pursuing a restraining order here.”
Real one ☝️ 💯
thank you!!,
Thank u for updating us, I really hope everything works out lots of hugs
Good for you stand up for yourself and your babies! This is low key predatory they are just trying to use you with zero care of how the kids turn out. Keep fighting
@@JessB08 this is not my story but I’m sure she would appreciate your kind words
Yeh no that women needs to either get an ACTUAL surrogate or adopt. Those are not her children I hope the women who IS the mother can file for full custody.
Edit: Or not have ANY KIDS like sorry umm she kinda crazy....
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This was intense. I hope the mom can get rid of Kim in her life asap.
Same! So much toxicity and terror 😭
Omg I love u
I'm not sure how it works in the US but in the UK if the father isn't on the birth certificate then he has no legal rights over children. She needs to not put his name on it so he can't get rights this would stop Kim being in their lives.
Kim and Joe. Joe is way off himself to even let Kim do the genealogy thing. He isn't working with a full deck. I'd be desperate enough to throw some other guy's name on the birth certificate.
@@rebekahwiller5487 No, that's not how it works in the USA.
This sounds like the starter of a lifetime movie where a psycho steals a pregnant woman baby.
that happens in private practice a doctor is pregnant and her psychotic patient cuts her open and steals her baby
Dude that literally happened in WA and the women died but they caught the crazy chick that did it and gave her life in prison. You can look it up it was big news when it happened. The baby survived and is like 12 now
Id honestly ghost them and move far away. This was actually a disturbing situation. The kids can live without a dad thats fine because the dad is enabling her which means something deeper as well. I also wouldn't feel comfortable having those kids visit their dad with kim around them.
& offs the mom
Sounds like Jane the Virgin😂
“My job won’t give me maternity leave because I’m not pregnant, I share no DNA with the baby in question, and am also not even the stepmother. How could my boss do this!” Does she realize how idiotic she sounds
IKR?!
I need an update on this one!!!!! Kim is Crazy as hell
Absolutely delusional
Frr
The fact that she only dated joe for 3 months and he got her pregnant seems like it was his plan the whole time
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!
THIS
Right like he and his gf came up w some harebrained scheme to get pregnant
Honestly I thought about that too. But I fully don't think that Kim knew especially since she was upset at first. I think Joe thought this would be a way to make Kim happy. He probably even told her some bs about him getting custody and that she would become the mother.
@@starfirec6736 I doubt she was really upset, I think it was all part of the act.
Drop the father. It feels like he intentionally got her pregnant FOR Kim.
Exactly
I’d skip town/state without none of them knowing! Lol
Yep
Saw this on tiktok and had to come see the full story, oh my god this is crazy!!!!!
Me too
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THE "HOME BIRTH" is now super scary! Like what if she tired to knock her out after she gave birth and left with the babies.
That's a good point! I thought at first Kim might just prefer home births, but it would be a lot easier to steal the twins if they were born at home.
She could even try to drug her and say she died during birth!
Also wouldn't it be really likely mom would die? C-sections are a thing for multiples for a reason...
@@marymohr2799 even if Kim “prefers” home births that has nothing to do with OP lol she’s in no way related to these babies she doesn’t get a preference.
Or even claim that one of the babies died and taken the baby for herself
All I keep thinking about is those crime shows where crazy women cut the babies out of the mom right before they’re about to be birthed and then killing the mom and taking the babies as their own
i didn't watched the whole video,and i thought that the crazy woman did kill the pregnant woman omg
yeah i kept thinking that and remembering the episode in private practice where that happened (except she didn't die and the women got arrested)
@@mincita110202 that’s literally the first thing that came to my mind
@@mincita110202 was it a true story? because i know someone who did this
@@morganc8144 omg that's awful no this was a show on ABC that was a spin-off of Grey's Anatomy
The fact that he was happy his EX was pregnant while with someone with fertility issues tells you all you need to know.
That quite true I never thought of that
I need a update in a few months because the fact that she ruined the moms gender reveal by posting it. I would not let her in the birthing room and I would not let Joe sigh the birth certificate.
@sotuur aeei where can you check the update?
@sotuur aeei Can you share the link?
@sotuur aeei can you give us the link?
@@KrKope Pretty sure this is a post from Reddit. There is a subreddit “Am I the asshole” (AITA). I’ll look it up and share the link soon
The link is in the description box.
If she's in the states keep his name off the birth certificate and give baby her last name! Dad has zero rights since they aren't married! I'd disappear and they'd never see me or babies again 🤷🏼♀️.
I think that only applies is certain states
You have to dissolve the parental rights in most states but that can be done with out Joes consent. I bet if she does that Joe will wonder abt the choices he made and those kids for the rest of his life.
From Michigan here, and I tried this (abusive ex) and when my son turned seven the state found him and forced him to pay child support even though I told the state that I wanted nothing to do with him. They also told him he had to pay for a new birth certificate, but I freaked out and insisted that he stay off it. The judge basically told me that he would have to “want to”. So far, he’s kept his distance. My son is almost 15. Whew! Not every woman/child is so lucky.
Keeping the name off the birth certificate is nothing. A father can easily court demand for a paternity test and claim rights as a father should be able to. You can’t just take a baby and run just because a paper isn’t signed.
Same ! I’d spite them both!
Kim just making herself look crazier each time they mentioned her. How are you going to go to a pregnant lady’s job? So embarrassing and uncalled for, this is scary
100% agree
Yes but she did her a favor, because now Kim has an arrest record that can be used in OP’s favor.
Hopefully it will be enough to keep the kids away from her crazy self.
Exactly, and the she actually still expects to get the children. Like wtf-
Not to mention she endangered other children at this pregnant woman's job, you think they're letting you near ANY kids after that?!
the five dislikes are Kim, joe and their relatives
You know that incident when that lady lied about buying something from a pregnant lady and cut the baby out??? It’s giving that vibe.
Not going to lie that’s what I was thinking because I’m getting that vibe too!
Yes giving me very much lifetime vibes
Yup! Her saying home birth with her... yup ya creep!
yes, i really hope kim doesn’t go all lisa montgomery on this poor woman.
That or they kidnap the babies and hide abroad
She’s should get a restraining order against Kim, sue for full custody and the father can have supervised visitation without Kim. This is insane. I’m scared for the Real mother’s safety. Please do more updates when she has the baby
Shameless people! They could adopt if they want. But don't claim a child of someone. And you really dare to seperate the twins!!! This made my blood boil😡
Mine. I let one of my son's dad know he might be the dad. He had the nerve to ask me if he could have my baby since I already had one. Like wtf? I told him fuck no. But then he got all offended when I asked if I could have one his daughters since he had 2. At least he got the point.
@@prettylyons2880 You're baby daddy is a hypocrite. He wants to get your son but doesn't want to give his daughter. At least you teach him a lesson. Nice move, dear. Serves him right.
lol she probably ruined her chances of adoption with a record of child endangerment
She talks like she is doling out a litter of unwanted kittens
My aunt on my dads side was infertile and actually had the nerve to ask to one of us when my mom found out she was having twins. My grandma even tried to guilt trip her into it. SO happy me and my twin did not end up with her.
@Alba The audacity of some of these women that poor little boy :(
Joe made a grave mistake. I get it... It hurts not to have kids and your partner is having one but this is insane behavior.
joe mama lol
@@jaycartwright1170 Joe daddy lol
If kim ever has a baby on her own, she probably would hate the other two or make them feel awful
she can't have kids that is the point of this whole fiasco
@@Lovethyself887 sometimes people are told they can't have kids and they still end up getting pregnant down the road. Obviously not always, but it does happen.
@@Lovethyself887 My mum was told she couldn’t have kids and now she has two
@@1sTEfFaniE1 my sil was told she couldn't have any before l by the age of 19 she has 2. My mil adopted my husband after being told she couldn't have anymore and ended up pregnancy 3 years later
@@1sTEfFaniE1 I never said that isn’t possible. Some people are wrongly diagnosed as infertile when it might be due to another issue in the organism or it could be temporary infertility. But for her it is permanent and has been around since she was 14 and due to ovarian cancer. That is why she is going for surrogacy where she wants eggs donated from a cousin so she is related to her future adoptive kid.
Wow. Just wow. I’m an adoptive mom of twins and was involved with the birth mom from around 3 months. I mean like texting, visits, Dr appts, etc. Never once did I take over her pregnancy. She was their mother until their birth. I can’t imagine acting like this to someone who is not adopting their children!! This is unreal!! Step mommy has real mental problems and needs to be out of the picture! Mom-you are NOT an asshole! These are YOUR children!! Protect them from this craziness!! You know what’s best for them!!
She is still their mother.
@@b2kzangelalwayz if you are trying to say that ‘Kim’ is still the mother you are terribly mistaken. Kim has no genetic relation to these children and the biological mother of these children clearly wants nothing to do with her and do not want her to be involved in the children’s lives. It is disgusting behaviour on Kim’s part. It is the equivalent of walking up to a random pregnant woman and demanding that you be apart of the children’s lives. At the end of the day these babies are and always will be the biological mothers children and Kim has absolutely no obligation to be in their lives
b2kzangelalwayz if youre saying kim is still the mother, you're delusional.
@@georgialeach1305 I think b2k meant the biological mom of Kayla's twins. Kayla writes "she was their mom until birth" and b2k means to say bio mom is still a mom.
Not here to give opinions on this, just to let you know so you can judge what they're actually saying. I think everyone understands Kim is batshit crazy xD
@@Irene-vi5sn ahhh I see! Thank you for clearing that up for me!! :)))
I say she needs to look over HIPAA Laws in her state and make not that no one can ever release medical info to the both of them, as well as have every school they attend in the future have documents on file that they are not to be taken/picked up at school by them as well. I’m concerned that they could make attempts on stealing the kids later in life.
Justin made a really good point about Kim possibly implanting negative messages to the kids’ heads. As a teacher’s assistant, I have seen this exact thing happen before. It’s so heartbreaking to see my student’s confused about which parent they should/shouldn’t like, unsure how they should feel, so on so forth.
Ugh so sad. Children should never be used as pawns in parents wars 🥺
As someone who went through it as a kid I completely understand it messed me up for years and I’m honestly still not ok from it my parents separated when I was 4-5 divorced at 8 and my toxic stepmom was there since 4 planting things in me same with my dad and mom about each other it finally stopped when I was older and I put a foot down but it’s truly a horrible thing to have that happen. And with this case could be much much worse.
Hell, my mother did that to me against my father. This woman sounds a lot crazier than my mother.
My friend's bf combats this by never getting involved in the drama when he has them, he just focuses on having a good time with his kids.
The effects are long lasting too- kids aren’t a fully blank slate as they have opinions and feelings but it’s easy to shape them into what you want
The mom needs to document EVERYTHING the family is saying and present it to the court. She needs full custody immediately after and the father and Kim shouldn’t be allowed to see the babies.
She needs to get an attorney and fight for custody of the other child. This is completely wrong on so many levels.
WHAT.
what other child. she’s gonna keep both. kim and the boyfriend can’t keep either of them
What other child? Both are HERS
Kim's mom told OP that she should give Kim one of the babies, I'm sorry but but twin children are not like a litter of puppies, you don't give one away simply because you had two (I know that some people do this and it's wrong).
She updated it said she got a protective order again the father and is leaving town also Kim found the post and went to her job
Where is this story post I NEED the update
@@azariaanderson-parris1407 the link is in the description at the bottom
Of the video
That’s good it seems like he planned on getting her pregnant
@@jessieperez3718 I agree
OMG WHAT?? KIM WENT TO HER JOB??
The Mama vs Mommy thing is so manipulative. My daughter is 20 months old and only says Mommy occasionally. It takes a long time before children say words that are two syllables of different sounds. Mama is much easier to say and comes much earlier. You know Kim is going to lord that over her as much as she can.
Stop fucking using months if your kid is over a year old
zayelo u mad? 20 months is much easier to say than 1 year and 8 months
@@ainawbu how about just say she’s a year old
@@ainawbu what will you say when your child is 18 oh my daughter is 216 months old no so she is 1 not 20 months old
Triggered much? Lol. What a small thing to get angry about.
I would document everything try to establishsome big custody boundaries, and try to keep those babies safe. This is scary and very messed up
I’ve struggled with infertility for 18 years. But I would NEVER do this! The gender reveal?!
someone sent this post to Kim and she came to my job, damaged my car, and broke a bunch of office windows. I work with kids so she was arrested for not just the criminal damage and trespassing but also child endangerment so hopefully that works in my favor. Also if Joe did it on purpose, I don’t think Kim knew, because she was screaming at me about how I stole her life and everything I had was supposed to be hers.
Omg is this you ?
Kk
Hope you keep away from her she's insane! Her family and friends sound insane too
Girl leave don’t look back surround yourself with caring protective people. Keep that lunatic away
I'm really sorry you're going through all of this. It must be so scary ☹
My friend went through something super similar. At 14 she became pregant, the father was a 15 year old boy who frequently got in trouble with police for petty offenses and soon he was on probation and moved back to his home state far away from her. She was unsure about what to do about her pregancy, and eventually she waited too long to make a decision , and it was made for her. She told her family and her grandparents who raised her were supportive, but her older brothers wife was bitter and jealous. Her sister in law was unable to have a child of her own, and was so angry at her. She said to my friend , a 14 year old girl , that “it’s unfair you got pregant your first time , without even trying when you didn’t even want the baby”. Her SIL wanted her baby from the beginning. Once the baby was born my friend raised it for a while with a lot of her grandparents help. But she missed being a kid and her SIL was still harassing her , telling her to give the baby to over to her , that she was an unfit mother. Eventually my friend gave up her parental rights and her brother and SIL adopted the baby. Shortly after he brother molested her , and her grandparents told her if she went to the police she’d be kicked out. So now a predator is raising her daughter. And she can’t go to the police and it’s too late to undo the adoption. Her brother and SIL never let her see her child , except holidays , and she’s never allowed to be alone with her child. She’s also not allowed to tell her daughter that she’s her real mom. It’s heart breaking
Omg that sounds absolutely horrible :/
My ex had a girlfriend who tried to teach my girls to call her mom. I put a stop to that straight away. Then about 7 years ago my ex tried to kidnap my girls, 2nd attempt, but this time he tried to go outta state. One of my girls isn't even his. There's so much more. he found where I live now and has called the cops for a "well-care check" twice in one day. I informed the cops of the situation and if he shows up they told me to call them. I live in a small town so I know everybody. To my advantage 😁 and I mean everybody. Cops, sheriff's, lawyers, judges, this is my town. Fuck with me. 😁
Girl!!! You have absolutely been through it. Talk about tough co-parenting... !!!
@@TwoHotTakes I'm flogrown 😁 we got everglades and the ocean😂😂😂 let'em come near my girls ☠️😁
@@tena2sweet love this energy girl! Hell yeah!
Actually sounds like Kim and Joe watched The Handmaid’s Tale and thought “hm, that seems like a good idea”.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING LOL
I went here from tiktok and, like, I'm just baffled by the entitlement??? Geez, what a ride
To the lady who’s story this is if you read this please seek legal help as soon as possible I am worried for your safety with these people maybe we watched too many crime shows but you never know with crazy people in this world so please please make sure you are getting the help you need to keep your children away from these people
Yea I came here from TikTok in .03 seconds. Kim is nuts and she clearly gets it from her psycho mom! I would move out far away. Sounds like a HORROR MOVIE.
Do you have a link for the tiktok.
@@emmagray7726 vm.tiktok.com/ZMd1vEcoU/
This is the original tiktok :))
Yeah
this is like the only type of show i actually like because they are both actually respectful and listen to each other
Why I got the feeling that Kim actually gave Joe the Command “ Go to the World and got some lady pregnant and Bring me a baby” 😳???
this makes sense. there are so women like that. yikes
@@odettebarrette it reminds me of a criminal minds episode where this guy kidnapped a bunch of women and raped them then made them give birth. The wife would help birth the kids and choose if she wanted them. She would only keep the blonde haired blue eyed kids and they would drop the rest off at churches and stuff. That episode shook me
Me too, thats exactly what i think.
@@homedepot. not even only blue eyed blondes. They only kept the boys.
@@ZombieGoddessxi that was SVU lol
I said this on TikTok. Her ex and his GF will try to sue for custody after she gives birth. That couple is beyond crazy.
Yep! Or call CPS and try to make her out to be an unfit mother. They will do anything to get those kids.
Apparently kim got arrested for property damage, and child endangerment. Soo doubt she won’t be allowed around
Smart to move out of state. I would not put him on the birth certificate either. If she wants to establish paternity in the future she can do that but she can never go back & remove him
Kim isn’t even the stepmom she’s the father’s girlfriend which makes her actions even worse
It kinda sounds like he got her pregnant on purpose. Like this was their plan all along….
Update: “I have orders of protection against both Kim and Joe. I left the state anyway and Joe and Kim started harassing me again because there’s no legal jurisdiction when you leave the state, but I have enough evidence that I was able to press charges in my current state as well and will be pursuing a restraining order here.”
Thanks for this info!! May I ask where she posted this information?
@@gabrielleakins5237 I saw it on Reddit. I went to grab the link for you but I can’t find it anymore 🧐
The link is also in the description box of this Video :)
It seems planned just because she said they always used condoms and etc. then she gets pregnant... he could’ve done something to the condom.. it seems like they did it on purpose
Probably
I thought that was more unlikely until she said they used condoms. Now I believe that's a distinct possibility.
Omg I didnt even think about that. It's honestly possible
And then when he thought his condom tampering wasn't working, he broke up with her
Why did she want her to have a home birth? That makes me think even more that she wanted to steal the babies from her like as she was giving birth, like they said she could be trying to get rid of her and keep the babies... there’s literally a movie about it..
what’s the movie?
Oh she got charged with with child endangerment. Let's go there is absolutely no way that Kim is even getting close to those kids
As a “kinda-step parent” (or as their mom calls me “a bonus mom”) people like this are awful. My bf had an ex that tried to get his oldest to call her Mom. It’s disgusting. How are you going to claim someone else’s child(ren). I may not have kids, I don’t know if my body can handle having kids, but I love my future step-daughters. And at the end of day, I respect every boundary their parents place, because it isn’t my place to make those decisions. Nor will I ever try to.
I call my s.o's kids my kids but I also know they aren't mine. I will always know they have 2 main parents and I'm an extra parent to help raise them
I will just move out somewhere far away without telling them.
She got SO lucky that they showed their colors before the babies were born. Can you imagine what would have happened if they were smart enough to put on an act until after she had the twins? I feel so bad for OP glad she was able to get the hell away from them and they couldn't get their gross hands on her babies!
This reminds me a lot of my ex step mom and my biological dad. The same thing happened to my mother and they both ended up getting cut out of our lives. My mom has full custody of us but we do visit our dads side of the family every other year
Wow! Good for your mom for protecting you!!
Fetal kidnapping happens more than people like to acknowledge. It's terrifying! Shes legitimately so entitled that she wouldn't see anything wrong with kidnapping these children and she has people that proudly enable her. No ma'am get a lawyer and a restraining order IMMEDIATELY.
For the person who submitted this, I hope you read all these different opinions
This young girl’s best bet is keeping both of them out of the hospital when the kids come. Because she is not married to Joe, fatherhood is not assumed and he cannot sign the birth certificates without her consent. Keep him away from these legal documents! He is proving to not be a safe place for your children.
God is good🙌🏼 Kim getting arrested for child endangerment is goldddddd!
If i were in her shoes my Joe would not be able to see his kids while in a relationship/contact with Kim and even if he was able to see them he wouldn’t be able to with her present. I would not put him on the birth certificate and if they tried to fight for custody I would take full and say that they weren’t his kids and leave the state.
The women needs another man to sign the birth certificate than technically he be the babies father legally
She also doesn't have to put a father on the birth certificate. My mom didn't put her bf’s when he missed my birth
All Joe has to do is demand a paternity test.
@@annareed5277 Right but that doesn't prevent Joe from taking her to court for visitation. The court would order a paternity test and he would be given parental rights.
@@Iblamedonna Hey! Once there is already a legal father paternity tests don't matter :) That's why the legal father has to pay child support while the biological father usually doesn't have to in these cases because legally the biological father is not the father. The only thing that matters is what's on the B.C. I watch alot of paternity court haha
@@kaystudies8278 That's not true. If the biological father did not give up his parental rights, he can go to court for visitation, custody, etc.
The sad part, is that if kim had approached this differently she would have been welcomed and involved….now it will never be a good situation
kim and joe planned this. praying for the mama and babies, she needs to get as far from them as possible
I hear stories like this and realize I’m so lucky that I’m pregnant with a loving husband. This is insane. Kim’s behavior sounds delusional. Not to mention how your hormones can make you super sensitive in pregnancy and having to deal with the extra unnecessary stress. I would suggest she gets far away from Kim while pregnant (in the least).
Ugh this reminds me of my ex MIL who literally assumed I was going to give my baby to her and told me to name my baby after her And made my daughter call her mama and a bunch of other crazy stuff🙃
Girlll!!! How did you deal with it??
Oh my god! I hope you and your daughter are fine! That's YOUR daughter, what a piece of work!
Story time?
@@alexmiller5075 oh my gosh that would be a long ass crazy story 🤣🤣🤣
@@carohysk I barley survived. So much more happened like I think this woman is actually insane and has serious psychological problems.
She needs to move to Florida. If they aren’t married he has to take her to court IN FLORIDA to even attempt gaining rights, and with the arrest of his “fiancé” against the mother no judge would give him any rights.
Honestly I’d go into hiding and never let them know when the kids were born and I wouldn’t list him on the birth certificate
Yep! I would honestly move to a different country!
I’d move out of state for the time being, and get a family lawyer NOW! She of it’s feasible to get a restraining order because of the harassment. Wow. Run to the lawyers office now!
I swear why do I feel like Kim is going to kill her and keep the babies. I swear I watch to many true crimes
She definitely needs to leave him off the birth certificate. There is way too much crazy coming from his side of this equation.
U can do that
THIS ONE IS SO CRAZY OMG 😳
Genuinely would not be putting his name on the birth certificate. If I have to lie and say it’s actually another man’s baby I would. Yikes.
I have twins myself and if my husband was to leave me and his new boo was to be like this, it'd be an end for her.
I love that each time KIM was mentioned she genuinely seemed even more psycho than I first thought!! Sis take those babies, run for the FUCKING HILLS
I’d file for full custody. The stepmom is nuts!
Saw this on tiktok and wants to know the full story 😱 shocking, they are crazy!!!!!
Watched the full episode yesterday and this one made me go crazy!!!
This is literally straight out of lifetime and I’m so glad the she’s being careful
I saw this story on rslash and this is what his response should have been
What did rslash say? I haven’t watched his stuff in a hot second
I just learned about rslash last week!! Would love to see another hot take if you have the link still!
@@TwoHotTakes here’s the link:
ruclips.net/video/aCWJ2rHTUko/видео.html
His response starts at about the 7:15 minute mark! Normally he will delete it if it gets negative responses in the comments but it’s still up for now.
I love your content by the way! It’s my favorite thing to listen too at work 😁
@@Cyn.Cynical he ends up basically telling OP she’s still kind of an asshole because the father didn’t do anything wrong? That’s really paraphrased I watched it a few days ago.
Here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/aCWJ2rHTUko/видео.html
His commentary starts at the 7:25 minute mark
@@Sporkyboi I just saw it 😬 I don’t agree with his opinion- at all- yikes... while he is right that Kim is completely insane, I think he might’ve skimmed/misread some of the post to come to the conclusion that OP is a bit of the AH given the circumstances- yikes 😬
This girl is way too patient with this Kim person. She needs an order of protection against Kim now! If Joe wants to see his kids he's going to have to see them somewhere Kim isn't.
I would somehow say this isn’t his child and that it’s someone else’s or something and not let him sign that birth certificate. I don’t know if this is possible though. This is going to very toxic.
That’s crazy! Their not her babies she is just the step mom. Kim is acting like they are hers and they aren’t! Don’t trust her! Get a lawyer! And the mother saying split them! WTF! Don’t let them take your babies.
This is just crazy! Kim needs to get her head on straight like she is giving me really bad vibes! I hope this girl never lets her kids near Kim! I could understand letting Joe seen them while he is supervised. I pray this girl and her kids are okay and nothing happens to them.
This reminds me of “Unsolved Mysteries” when women who have infertility problems steal other people’s babies and raise them as their own and the child doesn’t find out who their real parents are until they are much older. Kim sounds like she would do something like that.
Saw this on tiktok and I had to see more of what happened this is crazy
Pls drop kim and joe social media accounts, i wanna see them 😅
I saw this on TikTok and OMG! I needed the full story because of how crazy this is!
Morgan’s voice and pronunciation of words reminds me of Elena Gilbert from The Vampire Diaries, i love it
MAYBE HE “DATED” THE GIRL TO GET HER PREGNANT SO HE CAN HAVE CUSTODY WITH THE CRAZY GIRLFRIEND😧
My thoughts too, he only dated her for 3 months and probably intentionally impregnated her coz his gf kim cant be pregnant, this was joe and kim plan
She probably wasn't the only girl he was dating. She was just the only one who got pregnant.
Yep! It’s not that hard to figure out when someone is ovulating if you’ve dated them for 3 months.
RUN GIRL- FAST & HARD. Praying for you and your babies. You’re their mother stick with your family. I’m glad to hear you got an attorney and to hear that even though you couldn’t do much initially I am glad Kim fumbled publicly and was arrested.
This one has been my absolute favorite
WTFFFFFFF....you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Get an attorney now, start collecting evidence of her crazy behavior and prepare for battle because she's the one that's going to push baby daddy to get custody.
And for her safety and baby's safety, DO NOT PUT FATHERS NAME ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR HAVE HIM SIGN IT.
Y’all are gonna blow up with these keep it up!!
I love this channel and I’m honestly addicted. It reminds me of innocent gossip with my sister whom I now am all of the way across the country from. Imma send her some videos so we can discuss drama like we used to 🥰
Get a restraining order!!! She’s crazy!
What if they both planned her getting pregnant since the “step mom” can’t have kids. They “break up” for a while to look for the right girl to have the baby ???
Saw this on tiktok. I subscribed quickly! This lady is crazy (kim)
I read this one wuite a while ago on reddit and i even had a nightmare about it. I'm so worried about this woman i don't know and will never know, this is a literal nightmare for her.
This seriously sounds like the plot to a very interesting movie
First off, this story is so insane and I can imagine how crazy this feels for OP. Second, at a twin myself, I find that them offering you to give one kid to be separated from the other is blasphemous. Treating kids as an offering or some s**t
Girl get a restraining order!!!!! Please
As a mom, I’d be so terrified of these people.