Update for those who want to play Dead Cells. You can change the resolution to "high resolution" in the settings to make the content legible. But you won't be able to read the Options menu to make that change. In the main startup menu, select Options (the second option), then Video (second option), and then the "High resolution" option will be the second setting (the first checkbox). The text will be tiny, but readable. You will also want to change the controls in the settings as the A/B and X/Y are natively swapped.
The touchscreen actually does work really well in Drastic BUT you have to deactivate the touch screen overlay button functionality. It's confusing because you can set the opacity to 0, but you have to go into a different menu to deactivate the buttons altogether. If you don't deactivate them, they will get in the way of the touch screen swipes, especially towards the bottom of the screen where the overlay buttons usually are.
on my phone, I just out the touch screen on top. so as to not worry about it. now, I really only play a few games on nds and the ones I play doesn't suffer from having touchscreen on top.
Russ, I think we would all prefer a long video with perhaps too much info than a short one that feels like it obviously glossed over information that could help viewers make purchase decisions. Especially when your videos are so organized with chapters and timestamps for those who don't want certain info. Thanks!
Absolutely.. cracks me up when Russ is almost apologising or at least lamenting the fact it’s a long video.. meanwhile I’m sitting here thinking “bonus”.
The longer the better 👍 I like the way you review stuff like eta prime and drew even if its longer I always finish your videos, cat break was funny 😁 unlike madlittlepixel sometimes he gets annoying
Agreed. It's all about scope. If the video were two hours long, it still wouldn't be too long, to the extent the viewer's time is not being wasted. It would just be a different scope. And that's what I appreciated about this video: It is pithy and information-dense.
Dipping my toe into all this retro gaming stuff, fell down a RUclips wormhole but this better than conspiracy theories!, and just wanted to note your videos are clear, unbiased and helpful. I'll be attempting to jailbreak my vita even the memory card adapter arrives next week and will follow your guides to the letter. Thank you!
Love that new intro reminds me of MVG by the way 🤣 The new Retroid Pocket 2+ is a really cool and better upgrade. Still next one needs to be with a bigger screen 👍
Some don't want that larger screen, especially if it means a larger device. I would prefer a better resolution screen - perhaps as a modular upgrade option - and I would love an option where the user can add aditional memory... or even swap-out the processor.
They can easily make different models with different screen size... 5 or 7 inches in 4:3 format would be the best but they need to change the name (pocket .-)
This device looks promising although I would have preferred the right joystick to not be slider. Russ emulation on handhelds is such a wonderful experience with you around. I really like your work, it's so professional and honest. I've been following since the beginning and thanks to your videos my rg 351v and rg 280v provide such s good experience. Again, thank you.
Russ, along with the in depth break down of the system and hardware u are the only reviewer who actually tests the d-pad with fighting games. This is how I know u are the real deal. Much respect bro ✊
Yaba Sanshiro can be set to scan your memory card for games as one of the directories from the settings. 👍🏽 Also dead cells has a setting for high quality graphics in the settings that are hard to see but once you select it, everything is clear.
For ps1 emulation on Retroarch (rearmed core) might be throttled if rewind functionality is on. The rewind functionality actually impacts the performance for PS1 by a lot as it tries to save those frames on memory. I could be be wrong since I don’t have the device in person but that was the case for many retro handheld devices.
No one has done a review on those colored buttons and I'm glad that you pointed that out. I'll stick to the regular buttons because sticky buttons from the paint is a big turn off. Thank you for all you do
It has been very frustrating for me to research on this device, because nobody (that I know of, at least) cared enough to mention or consider the complications of the screen size/resolution when it comes to some games. All I kept finding was people showcasing the obvious (performance on GB, SNES, PS1, N64 DC etc.) and no discussion on game streaming or android games in detail, so I have to thank you for giving the time to actually talk about them!
Great overall review. The addition of you explaining the settings you were using while showing off gameplay from the tougher consoles makes for a much more transparent presentation. And you touched on some aspects I hadnt seen mentioned yet, like the touchscreen. I feel more confident in knowing what to expect after watching this. And I agree it is still a great value for $99, though Retroid really needs to look into their order processing times and shipping solutions. Things are rough right now for everyone, but other companies big and small are doing things faster still.
Just wanted to note about Dead Cells, the actual issue is probably the DPI reported by the device, you can change that using third-party apps for better scaling.
I changed the settings like he mentions and although they are kind of hard to see and get the right ones but when I got it on full resolution it’s readable and playable. Text is still small but you can read it
you don't need 3rd party app for that. just go to developer settings > smallest width. bigger number = more dpi. and even then, changing dpi WILL NOT affect scaling on games, only regular apps.
Retroid are the little guys who I really want to see succeed, but even taking their extremely low price, less than half the latest models from their competition, into account, there's just some things that are close but not quite good enough. Like, at $99, I don't care about PSP, Gamecube, or PS2 performance. Anything that works is a bonus. A 1x resolution on PS1 games is fine, since some PS1 games were 480i anyway, upping the internal resolution might lead to visual artifacts in menu screens, particularly for RPGs. They've done great work making the software more intuitive than before, and switching to conductive rubber for the buttons is a great move. I was one of the ones who really hated the feel of the RP2's D-pad. It's QA things like the touch screen not working well in its lower third, or the buttons not fitting after they're painted, that spoil it. Little things like the lack of L3 and R3, and sticking with a slider on the right. Taki pointed out some light bleed from uneven pressure on the screen, because whichever factory is slapping these together isn't really doing so with care. Right now, while it's an older device, you can get an RG351P from Anbernic for the same price, and you'll probably be happier for it. If you hold off until your next pay day, you can get the RG351MP for another $50, and have a MUCH better experience given all the work the community has done on the RK3326 devices. Gamecube, PS2, and PSP are almost entirely out of reach here, too, but what works works well, and the physical build of the device is better.
I could agree with that opinion too. For a budget device, I would also be pretty likely to recommend a 351p. It's a device you can actually get for under $100 including shipping, has very beginner friendly custom firmware available for it, and you can even get it on Amazon to have it within a couple days. If RP2+ had a similar cheap shipping option that didn't take weeks to arrive, it would be a bit closer.
@@misterkeebler for people who already use Android phones or tablets, and have literally no idea about emulation handhelds, I might recommend a Retroid Pocket over an a Linux device, and in fairness it does seem like a much better out of box experience. It's just the little things that make the RP2+ fall short compared to similarly priced competitors.
@@NoobixCube yeah I guess it depends. Personally, I see the Linux devices with custom firmware as even more beginner friendly with the assumption that they can follow a guide for the firmware install because the better firmwares like 351Elec basically take care of all the emulator configurations coded in for you. With android, you have some nice frontend emulators but you're often going to have to configure them yourself. I might be just less aware of what's available for android, but ive been doing some emulation on another android handheld recently and it's definitely some testing on my part to set things up.
@@Pridetoons same on my 351v i get great performance on dreamcast as far as i stick to fighting games, 2d sprites, etc. and some racing games, crazy taxi runs pretty good.
Cloud gaming is getting big and the Retroid 2+, being an Android device, does it well. I was playing Forza Horizon 5 on mine last night. MSFS2020 runs like butter. I'm not sure if those Linux devices are compatible with the apps without having to jump through a whole bunch of hoops, but they are directly supported by Android so it's just download, login, play XBox One games on a handheld.
I think I'm digging the black buttons you installed more than the colored ones that came with the device. I get what they were going for, but the black just looks a lot cleaner.
I’m very much looking forward to mine arriving. A bigger screen would mean a bigger device all round. For me the size of the rp2+ is just what I want from a device like this. It is a shame about the slider and lack of L3 and R3 though.
Good timing, mine arrived today. Great so far. I've got the 16-bit colour scheme with the same colour buttons shown in the video and they don't stick at all. Hopefully that means they've already solved the issue, unless I've just been very lucky.
Good to know, the review worried me as I had ordered a 16-Bit as well and was anxious I'd be getting faulty buttons as a result. When did you order your model?
Got mine today, 16-bit colour scheme and two of the buttons are badly sticking, also some screen bleeding, I know it's a great value device but disappointing
@@spreaditfreely same.. Mine arrived today and after on an hour of play my buttons are sticking... Did you ever get a work around or fix for yours sticking?
@@MattyK1873 Sorry to hear lad, I messaged the company about it but not much luck at all, just an email back with a video of console teardown. It was unplayable for me to be honest so I bought a phone screwdriver set and mini file set off Amazon, got both delivered for about 12 quid. Then I followed the PCB upgrade video of the Retroid Pocket 2 from Takii 2's channel as it was a great tutorial of opening the device to get at the buttons. I used the file to file not the buttons but the actual holes that the buttons fit into, pretty much the shell of the unit, only a small amount, happy to say it was actually easy to do and is working perfectly now, still a bit peeved I had to do that but don't be afraid to give it go, I've been well chuffed with the device overall and happy I have the coloured buttons.
And with this release, the first of Anbernic's competitors has fired a shot across their bow, Anbernic has sold it's last RG552 at their insane price point. Well, that didn't take long. Different design choices but same case use for both units. That's bad news for Anbernic, at least for the first iteration of the RG552. Fun times in retro world.
Just got mine today and had to check your video - always love your insight and to hear your take on things. As a side note, I've found it easier to get the SD card to eject and put it in by pressing a thumbnail on its spot outside of the little rubber cover. It can still be a pain with big fingers to get the card out, but it can be pressed into place and ejected more easily that way on both the RP2 and the 2+ in my experience. Thanks again for the happy gaming!
Finally after almost two months I got a notification today from DHL that they are delivering it today. I'm just searching through youtube looking at how to set it up.
Great video like always, I personally picked the RG552 and love it. I wanted to watch this video though because the quality of your content is enough for me to want to watch all your videos. Retro Game Corps is my number one resource for everything that's retro emulation.
I'm a 44 year old guy who has been emulating for decades, but have never had a little handheld like this. RG552 looks real spiffy, but at $250 it's just not something I can justify. This little thing looks like more my speed... I will mostly be playing older emulation systems anyway. For $99 it's hard to beat. Now just to wait months for the shipping... :-)
Really brilliant stuff and such a comprehensive review! I also really appreciate the thought put into providing the names of the other handhelds and games that you are playing in the clip - not all of us follow the handheld scene 24/7 so it's great that you provide that level of detail. 😄 Love the production value of your videos. 👍 Keep being awesome!
Russ, I think it’s time for another “my current favorite handhelds” video. Even though the RP2+ is more powerful, I’d like to know if you reach for it first, or do you prefer a RK3326-based handheld?
Cheers Russ, great review. Very tempting, 30 bucks more with a larger screen and I'm sold. Retroid as a company seem to be doing things (mostly) the right way.
My RP2+ (16-bit style) is probably going to arrive tomorrow, and I was concerned about the painted ABXY button issue you showed, so I contacted Retroid about it. I asked if they were sending regular buttons to people who encounter this issue, or if I should just order some new buttons right now. A day later they responded that they’ve corrected the problem and that my system won’t have any issues. We shall see.
Just ordered mine two days ago, got the black one. Cant wait to get it, though not sure when lol. In the mean time im updating my rom library. Great video, this little engine that could seems like so much fun.
This is the first time I’ve started to look into non-major market devices and this is the first video that I came across of one that I was looking into actually being reviewed. Excellent job thank you no I made my purchase before I saw your video, but your video definitely helped give me confidence that I wasn’t going to get screwed over! Thank you very much! New subscriber
Great video Russ! Only thing is that I'm only of the people who do prefer the Digital slider. Not only is it going for pushing buttons, but higher sticks makes pushing it to the right is a bit tiring. These handhelds needs some bigger controller real estate to make a full right stick comfortable
Another great review , I only own the retroid pocket 2 since it was originally in my budget and you helped me in making my final decision as as you described had everything I was looking for at the time. That being said I was super excited about this review and again you did not disappoint. I agree with another comment , longer videos with more info with time stamps is great ! I love getting all your opinions as they do matter and are very helpful. Obviously chicken is the star of the show so loved the cat break, more please 😺. Russ great video and good job , love that your switching things up a bit in your video layouts , love that retro feel , keep ‘em coming brother !
I definately feel like some of the other videos i had seen of this device led me to belive that it could run all Gamecube perfectly, as well as much better PS2 performance. so, i super appreciate this video. I'm waiting to upgrade from my RG351P for a good, small device that can run some higher end consoles. And this is def not it. Thanks, Keep up the awesome videos my guy!
If you wait another year or two, retroid will most likely release something that can play PS2 and maybe even Xbox. But I’m sure then it can play GameCube games.
The screen does only turn off for HDMI OUT if you set it to turn off. If you change that setting its possible to play Nintendo DS with HDMI Out as a second screen.
I watched your video about the RG351MP and was going to buy that device, however the Pocket 2 looked promising. When they announced the Pocket 2+ I immediately changed my mind and ordered one a few days ago, can't wait.
Color me impressed, looks like a night and day improvement from the RP2. I still dislike Android on a dedicated gaming handheld, but for $99 this is hard to beat...
I had a feeling PS2 was too good to be true. I just want to play Godhand anywhere Also, thank you for your honesty Russ. Love the fact you even mentioned that you are a non-affiliate with the company and your reviews are always fair.
For a smaller device, I think this is top tier. Except for the l3/r3 buttons. All in all, I think I want the MAX2 form factor with the x18s chipset and memory. This device, I would not mind giving out as a gift. Price/performance is very good.
Gah… this is so tempting! Think I’m still going to save up for a Steamdeck but kudos again to Retroid for making such an awesome price-to-performance ratio on the RP2+ … I hope they sell a ton of ‘em! 💪
To the people above me, they made reservations a thing for a reason. 😅 Chances are a majority of people who reserved it are people who actually want it, not scalpers, haha. Scalping won't happen until it's available to purchase online on Steam without the need for reservation.
yeah so after some research a ton of people have had an issue with the 8 bit because of the paint so for anyone here wanting one id recommend choosing a different color
I'm super tempted to get this over anything as my first ever retro handheld. I already know how to work android since I emulate on my phone, but finally something not very expensive and powerful enough. 100% would rather take this than the anbernic one
anbernic has size of screen and dual boot going for it? also android... anbernic are also known for quality.... but the price is the killer maybe the 552 is more capable? cant remember i know taki did 2 long vids on 552 one vid for each os? i didnt watch the second vid but he alluded to the android side being really capable and that with dev or community support the other os should be more than capable too in time.... but that issue along with the price and the current shoulder button config seems like a big misstep for anbernic.... if patchy n64 ps2 is what your aiming for..... not sure any handheld bar a super duper phone can do the majority n64 ps2 or psp yet??? i have just got a max 2 personally i think the best ergonomically and aesthetically pleasing of the handhelds that go up to ps1 it does abit of dreamcast etc its also patchy with n64 but im not looking to play or seek out those sort of games.... max 2 is costlier than the pocket 2+ too by about 30 or so more bucks depending on card size... so the pocket does have bang for the buck going for it... but reason i chose max 2 was large screen size, symmetrical sticks, grips and stacked shoulders.... and i didnt know about pocket 2+ XD but sub 100 sounds awesome which makes the 552 at 200+ seem crazy when the powkiddy x18s also a very capable device at 160+ or you could buy a quallity budget chinese phone at 100 - 150 - 200 and blows all of these devices away on emulation... im thinking realme or poco x3 f3??? or redmi?? phone prices differ depending on the size of storage etc but the chips inside at those sort of prices is also pointing to the future of other retro handhelds coming in the next few months few years
Retroid Pocket Team nailed this time! Offering a hardware upgrade for those who already own a RP2 and a selling a powerful machine for under 100 bucks? No competitor is doing that. This device has the best value for the money you can get
@@Pridetoons for that build quality and awkward placement of buttons, it not worth to spend that money. For the moment no competitor can beat RP2+ when comes to cost x performance
Man, I thought, why you posting 10+ minute videos. Then you talked about ergonomics, a topic that's rarely talked about. Thank you the in depth review! Keep it up!
Well I did order my yesterday. After 2 months thinking and fighting with myself 😅 I did decide to buy this one over the others systems for time when I am waiting for stem deck. Other reviews more positive about NGC and Ps2 emulation 🙄 after your video I am a bit disappointed. But maybe community will bring some good patches 👍🤩
i ordered one last week too! Have no idea how long it will take to get to me, but in the meantime i have my PS5 and Switch to keep me busy. Im only interested in emulating up to PS2 era games anyway. I never had a PS2 as a kid or a PS1. I played the crap out of Xbox 360 games and everything after that so im ready to go back in time on an awesome handheld that can play these older games with great performance at the same time.
@@dustygearhead 😎 mate me commodore 64, amiga 500, pc dos, then ps1.. Ps2 no cos I, had xbox and pc. Then ps3 in 2012 again.. And ps4 now. I love emulation 😍 now discovering ps2, wii, wiiu and game cube with my dougter 🤩 and I love it. Well I think up to 2 months since order I know all want it now not just us. Hope I will get it before Deck 😂
Russ, I am so very thankful for everything you do and provide for the community. May I make a personal suggestion, I love the new opening theme for the channel, however, I also love your old one. Is there anyway you could switch back and forth? Maybe come up with a third or fourth one?
Hi, I am working on a new official intro song. I took the old one down because as my channel grew, I found that the song was being associated with my channel, rather than the excellent work done by the creator. That was never my intention when I started the channel (I didn't think it would get so popular!). So after discussion with the artist I chose to remove it to honor their work. The "final" song won't come until it's ready, but I'm hoping it will be equally as iconic.
@@RetroGameCorps thanks for the explanation and that makes complete sense and is a real class act thing for you to do. Again your pride in what you do and your personal convictions make your channel and your reviews so respected.
if we get one of these things in the future with at least a 1 or 2x Cortex A76 or A77 at around 2GHz and decent GPU I think we can emulate everything up to Dreamcast and PSP flawlessly (and also do a lot of GameCube gams at 1x resolution at least)
I bought one based on this review and I don't regret a thing. It's my second retro handheld (unless you count my OG gameboy pocket and gameboy advance as a kid) and after my ambernic died suddenly, i got this and haven't been able to put it down. 10/10 if you're on the fence of buying this or not, just get it. You won't regret it.
Excellent review, and so glad you clearly stated that this device wasn't designed to play GC or PS2, and that they are probably a generation away. To think that the performance on this device is this good at launch, just has me salivating at what future emulation development will squeeze from its chipset. I also hope that Powkiddy and others decide to favour this processor over the RG552's, but think that might be a pipedream.
@@Pridetoons still trying to justify the X18s and 552's shit performance lmao, everyone has all the evidence they need to realize how crappy and overpriced the devices to come before this one have been now thankfully.
@@Flyingboots1 how are you calling the x18s performance crappy? It performs better than this product If you want to say it's overpriced, then fine. But there really isn't any need to justify that product over this. It's already understood that it is a stronger performer.
@@Pridetoons If Powkiddy release a device with the form factor of the RGB10 Max2 but with the T618 processor and more fast RAM then fantastic. Otherwise the X18s is a different class of retro portable handheld. Not everyone wants the clamshell form factor; as some just want a smaller device with the controls built around the screen.
Hey RGC Russ, I've been watching your retro gaming tutorials lately are they are very helpful man. Great honest review on the Retroid Pocket 2+. You got a subscriber and thumbs up. Thanks a ton for the good info.
The right analog being a slide-stick really kills it form me. If it was possible to swap it out with a normal stick I would seriously consider buying this. I'll wait a bit longer as there's still new devices on the horizon :)
Honestly I don't use the right analog stick. Maybe with some PS1 title... But even they were mapped to have the R1 and L1 buttons to turn the visual....so....
@@sharpsteel6272 Yeah, I wouldn't be bothered too much of it just was up to PSX, but as we now have PS2 and GC possibilities, I'm going to need decent sticks. The lack of L3 and R3 I can still work around as not every game used them, but that right analog just needs to be a proper stick.
With the library accessible reconsider if you REALLY need the second stick. I have a 351M and it has a good right stick but with dreamcast beeing the technical max, I RARELY use it. I guess what Im saying is really think about what type of games you want to play on a device like this. Really think about how you would use it. I end up playing a lot of RPGs for breaks at work and my commute and just play the more demanding systems like PS2 at home on my PC.
@@baccarah7010 Like I said in a different reply, I am considering this because of the platforms which need this. If I didn't need an extra stick, I'd just play on my Anbernic RG351P
@@detheavn Ah, okay. I dont know the insides exactly but it should be possible to swap in a vita or switch stick, there is probably some hardmodding to the shell that needs to be done but as long as the RP2+ mainboard has got a 4-Pin flat cable connector for the sticks on it it should just work plug/play. The switch and vita both got 4 pins for x signal, y signal, 5v and a ground. If I got my hands on one I could measure the pinout and confirm this but its worth looking into. Another issue could be how the RP2+ board "recognizes" the stick on a hardware level, it may only accept an 8 way digital input to begin with.
This is a step in the right direction. Hopefully for the RP3 they focus on releasing a more powerful system with a 5 inch 4 3 screen and proper dual analog.
TBH for both DS and PSP you should go with original hardware, they're still relatively easy and cheap to find and both system (and their successor as well) have the ability to run other emulators and ports. DS in particular no matter how good the emulation will be will have weird issue because you're never going to be able to play it with the screens lined up properly.
As someone who loves to play games on the go and wants try more retro games that are inaccessible to me supply and price wise, handheld emulation consoles seemed like a great fit. I’ve been patiently waiting to hear about the RP2+ for almost a year now. So glad I waited. This seems like it’s perfect for a newbie. If only it came in pink like the RP2... 😆 Gamecube Indigo will suffice. I just love watching your reviews in general so thank you for all the work you’ve put into this and other videos!
I would have preferred a 6-face button setup. Between Saturn, N64, Genesis, SNES games that aggressively use Select (Super Metroid for missiles), an outlet to map PS1 and PS2 L3/R3 controller stick click, improving the mapping options for Atari 5200, Intellivision, and Colecovision, and a better setup for running Arcade games and native Android games.
Talk about a premium and well thought design when it comes to the PS Vita! The thing is a decade old, it has a very high res and 16:9 display and it weighs and measures about the same as these pocketable 3.5" chinese handhelds. Impressive! I really wish I could buy an untouched, brand new one one.
Its really interesting to see how far these cheap retro emulators have gotten since they took off. But I don't think they are quite there yet. As capable as they have become, they are still leagues behind in pretty much every way from an android phone with a decent controller attached.
@@huskyfluffers9017 The SD845 version may end up being pretty decent and the price seems reasonable. Its actually has the same processor as my ancient LG g7. I would say its not really the best processor in the world but for the price its not a bad deal and I imagine it would be hard for them to make the devices at reasonable cost if they used a more up to date processor. Haven't used it for emulation so much since getting a tab S7 with the chonkier 865+ and bigger screen but the 845 can still run all the android games and emulation is good up up to PS1. You can get decent performance from Gamecube, Dreamcast and now even PS2 (with AetherX2) - but it depends on the game. Some run at full speed but others don't run particularly well or even playably. Still nice to see a brand go qualcomm/adreno graphics rather than with Mediatek and their sub-par GPUs.
From a price/performance point of view, no doubt. As far as ergonomics, UX, portability, etc., go, I found that the Android phone experience was way worse than a dedicated device's, and that the time investment to get a fully functional set-up was much longer. If you're mainly interested in 6th-gen consoles and newer, it really is the only option, though.
@@FranzKafkaRockOpera I would agree on the set-up time, but the "tinkering" element is part of the appeal for me. Even if its just through customising a front-end, having an input makes it feel like your own - a bit like setting up a raspberry pi for emulation. You are also seeing pretty much all the mainstream dedicated handhelds go down the android route with a custom front-end (with Mediatek processors and their weak GPUs rather than snapdragon/adreno). The experience is quickly becoming a weaker version of what you would get with your phone. Portability and ergonomics wise, I have found the opposite. I'm always going to have my phone in my pocket and my tablet in my bag. A handheld is an additional device you wouldn't otherwise lug around. Granted I have only ever owned one dedicated emulator (the RG350) but the buttons and controls were extremely cramped and the analogue sticks and buttons got in each other's way - rather unpleasant than ergonomic. Both of my android controllers have been much more comfortable to use - an 8bit do with a phone clip and more recently a ipega 9083b telescoping one for my tablet.
This was FANTASTICALLY done, I've been waiting for another Retroid product with better controls, I have an RG350M which is *almost* the perfect devoce except no bluetooth, the speakers and sound are very weak, and it's just occasionally weirdly glitchy. I'm going to order a R2+ based on your overview.
@@Lilacs4 I did not, but I *DID* figure out how to change the feedback resistors on my RG350M to make the gain on the left and right speaker amps MUCH louder, which solved my problem. So I'm happy enough with the RG350M until I have a ton of cash and I'll try the RP2+ someday.
Seems like a good value system. Only thing I cant stand now are those small screens. If they had screen size options like say around 5 and 7",then Id be more interested. As for your PS1 emulation tests, wonder how fpse and epsxe perform. Those have a wealth of tweaking options.
Yes, I spent several hours testing and tweaking the emulators, using feedback from the community spreadsheet and others. But at some point I have to pull the trigger and just present the performance like a typical user would find too, so I worked to find a balance in my demonstrations with moderate configurations. Like I mention in the review, for those who want to pour over every single game to find the right settings, there may be some nice gains to be found. But from my perspective, that's not indicative of what an everyday user would experience, so I want to present manageable expectations in my reviews.
Taki was using different settings. I think Russ was going for something closer to being accurate while downgrading things like the resolution and allowing slowdown to occur as needed. Taki was going for maintaining speed with less regard to accuracy. The biggest difference you can tell is watching these two play Final Fantasy X. Russ's slowed down more while Taki was faster, but Taki sped up the game to run faster (i think 140%) which caused sped up audio that would sometimes glitch, and more gameplay stutters.
I really was excited about the new generation of retro handhelds after owning RG351 (love) and RP2 (hate). So I was about to give a try with RP2+. But after EU got serious about taxes and China, RP2+ in Poland would cost me total 138 USD. So I thought: maybe wait for for Odin but then let’s say 240 USD for BASE, then add 12$ for shipping, 23% tax over that and we arrive at 310 USD for me (there is still possibility of additional import duties). Base steam deck with taxes (and shipping i think) is priced in Poland at 1900PLN = 469$. So lets be frank: I would love new retro gadget but price wise I will wait for reviews of Steam Deck (windows, linux, steam os, batocera, 4k output) and then decide.
I think it's definitely worth the price, however for what I have currently in portable emu consoles, this will be a pass. Not to mention, while I definitely have interest in portable emu consoles, I still enjoy emulating on my pc/laptop with a nice controller of my choosing, and can emulate anything available. Until I see major improvements in chipsets, 100% happiness with buttons/controllers, and game emulation, I won't be inking up on any more of these until I feel it's worth spending more. I currently have 2 portable consoles that I'm happy with for the convenience and portability, but I feel like the market is just milking buyers with very minor improvements on each new console...HOWEVER, I love your videos and reviews, you're my go-to for these reviews! AAA+++
yup just got a max2 its perfect..... anybody buying one of these and expecting perfect ps2 n64 etc need to wait 1 - 2 years at least for a perfect performance and price.... its almost here.... with these companies going with new chips... 552 x18s and companies going with mobile phone chips... you got odin you got new aya if powkiddy squeezed the x18s into a max3 that would be perfect... heck if anbernic squeezed the 552 into a max2 form it would be perfect.... sub 200 would be possibly doable.... x18s at 170? anything at 250 and above needs to be super special as your knocking on sony nintendos door.... but these chinese devices are upping the game..... more devices the merrier i say.... more competition more choice..... i get where your coming from too.... im hoping a slightly improved max2+ with stereo speakers doesnt come out to annoy me lol
Update for those who want to play Dead Cells. You can change the resolution to "high resolution" in the settings to make the content legible. But you won't be able to read the Options menu to make that change. In the main startup menu, select Options (the second option), then Video (second option), and then the "High resolution" option will be the second setting (the first checkbox). The text will be tiny, but readable. You will also want to change the controls in the settings as the A/B and X/Y are natively swapped.
Can you make video retroid pocket 2+ vs anbernic rg351mp?
Do you get a lot of games with it coz rgb351p is ace but no pc to add games
@@garethbeaton8414 I think retroid pocket 2+ has no roms, can probably buy a sd card with some already on it try ebay.
is there any way to unswap the a/b and x/y buttons system wide?
I have a question. What do I do if the retroid pocket 2+ I ordered didn't come with a tf card?
The touchscreen actually does work really well in Drastic BUT you have to deactivate the touch screen overlay button functionality. It's confusing because you can set the opacity to 0, but you have to go into a different menu to deactivate the buttons altogether. If you don't deactivate them, they will get in the way of the touch screen swipes, especially towards the bottom of the screen where the overlay buttons usually are.
on my phone, I just out the touch screen on top. so as to not worry about it.
now, I really only play a few games on nds and the ones I play doesn't suffer from having touchscreen on top.
Russ, I think we would all prefer a long video with perhaps too much info than a short one that feels like it obviously glossed over information that could help viewers make purchase decisions. Especially when your videos are so organized with chapters and timestamps for those who don't want certain info. Thanks!
Facts
Absolutely.. cracks me up when Russ is almost apologising or at least lamenting the fact it’s a long video.. meanwhile I’m sitting here thinking “bonus”.
The longer the better 👍 I like the way you review stuff like eta prime and drew even if its longer I always finish your videos, cat break was funny 😁 unlike madlittlepixel sometimes he gets annoying
I've only just found this channel, and I'm subbing because of this 😂 love it!
Agreed. It's all about scope. If the video were two hours long, it still wouldn't be too long, to the extent the viewer's time is not being wasted. It would just be a different scope. And that's what I appreciated about this video: It is pithy and information-dense.
Dipping my toe into all this retro gaming stuff, fell down a RUclips wormhole but this better than conspiracy theories!, and just wanted to note your videos are clear, unbiased and helpful. I'll be attempting to jailbreak my vita even the memory card adapter arrives next week and will follow your guides to the letter. Thank you!
Thank you for the touchscreen review as well, that was what I was intrigued for to see how capable it was with Drastic and NDS roms.
FYI:
In case you're wondering, AnTuTu results:
RP2+: 152k
RG552: 113k
@@Pridetoons I have 83 gamecube games on my RP2+ and out of those only 7 do not run well. For a hundred dollars, that's a win.
@@kandyvenom Woah that's a win for sure, nice to know that :D
FYI about the painted buttons sticking, Abby from Retroid assured me they solved the issue at the factory.
This is very good news! Got worried with my preorder having those sticky buttons. Thanks!
hahaha literally after watching this video I sent an email too and same reply
Love that new intro reminds me of MVG by the way 🤣
The new Retroid Pocket 2+ is a really cool and better upgrade.
Still next one needs to be with a bigger screen 👍
RP3 with the size of the RG552 would be a killer.
Some don't want that larger screen, especially if it means a larger device. I would prefer a better resolution screen - perhaps as a modular upgrade option - and I would love an option where the user can add aditional memory... or even swap-out the processor.
@@blowfishes maybe if you have tiny hands 4.5 inch and up is best for me
They can easily make different models with different screen size... 5 or 7 inches in 4:3 format would be the best but they need to change the name (pocket .-)
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Love grabbing a cup of coffee and watching a fresh RGC video in the afternoon. Thanks, Russ!
This device looks promising although I would have preferred the right joystick to not be slider. Russ emulation on handhelds is such a wonderful experience with you around. I really like your work, it's so professional and honest. I've been following since the beginning and thanks to your videos my rg 351v and rg 280v provide such s good experience. Again, thank you.
Bruh that so long
Russ, along with the in depth break down of the system and hardware u are the only reviewer who actually tests the d-pad with fighting games. This is how I know u are the real deal. Much respect bro ✊
Yaba Sanshiro can be set to scan your memory card for games as one of the directories from the settings. 👍🏽 Also dead cells has a setting for high quality graphics in the settings that are hard to see but once you select it, everything is clear.
For ps1 emulation on Retroarch (rearmed core) might be throttled if rewind functionality is on. The rewind functionality actually impacts the performance for PS1 by a lot as it tries to save those frames on memory. I could be be wrong since I don’t have the device in person but that was the case for many retro handheld devices.
Yes, I had rewind and runahead turned off, that was the first thing I thought too!
Yes woke up to my most anticipated video! Thanks for the start of a good day! Can’t wait for a started guide (please)
No one has done a review on those colored buttons and I'm glad that you pointed that out. I'll stick to the regular buttons because sticky buttons from the paint is a big turn off. Thank you for all you do
It has been very frustrating for me to research on this device, because nobody (that I know of, at least) cared enough to mention or consider the complications of the screen size/resolution when it comes to some games. All I kept finding was people showcasing the obvious (performance on GB, SNES, PS1, N64 DC etc.) and no discussion on game streaming or android games in detail, so I have to thank you for giving the time to actually talk about them!
Great overall review. The addition of you explaining the settings you were using while showing off gameplay from the tougher consoles makes for a much more transparent presentation. And you touched on some aspects I hadnt seen mentioned yet, like the touchscreen. I feel more confident in knowing what to expect after watching this. And I agree it is still a great value for $99, though Retroid really needs to look into their order processing times and shipping solutions. Things are rough right now for everyone, but other companies big and small are doing things faster still.
Just wanted to note about Dead Cells, the actual issue is probably the DPI reported by the device, you can change that using third-party apps for better scaling.
What app could you use and what DPI would you set it too to fix this?
I changed the settings like he mentions and although they are kind of hard to see and get the right ones but when I got it on full resolution it’s readable and playable. Text is still small but you can read it
you don't need 3rd party app for that. just go to developer settings > smallest width. bigger number = more dpi.
and even then, changing dpi WILL NOT affect scaling on games, only regular apps.
Yeah I fixed mine with just in game settings
0:53 "This blows every other thing out of the water" - while showing Wave Race 64 was smoooooth.
Retroid are the little guys who I really want to see succeed, but even taking their extremely low price, less than half the latest models from their competition, into account, there's just some things that are close but not quite good enough. Like, at $99, I don't care about PSP, Gamecube, or PS2 performance. Anything that works is a bonus. A 1x resolution on PS1 games is fine, since some PS1 games were 480i anyway, upping the internal resolution might lead to visual artifacts in menu screens, particularly for RPGs. They've done great work making the software more intuitive than before, and switching to conductive rubber for the buttons is a great move. I was one of the ones who really hated the feel of the RP2's D-pad.
It's QA things like the touch screen not working well in its lower third, or the buttons not fitting after they're painted, that spoil it. Little things like the lack of L3 and R3, and sticking with a slider on the right. Taki pointed out some light bleed from uneven pressure on the screen, because whichever factory is slapping these together isn't really doing so with care.
Right now, while it's an older device, you can get an RG351P from Anbernic for the same price, and you'll probably be happier for it. If you hold off until your next pay day, you can get the RG351MP for another $50, and have a MUCH better experience given all the work the community has done on the RK3326 devices. Gamecube, PS2, and PSP are almost entirely out of reach here, too, but what works works well, and the physical build of the device is better.
I could agree with that opinion too. For a budget device, I would also be pretty likely to recommend a 351p. It's a device you can actually get for under $100 including shipping, has very beginner friendly custom firmware available for it, and you can even get it on Amazon to have it within a couple days. If RP2+ had a similar cheap shipping option that didn't take weeks to arrive, it would be a bit closer.
@@misterkeebler for people who already use Android phones or tablets, and have literally no idea about emulation handhelds, I might recommend a Retroid Pocket over an a Linux device, and in fairness it does seem like a much better out of box experience. It's just the little things that make the RP2+ fall short compared to similarly priced competitors.
@@NoobixCube yeah I guess it depends. Personally, I see the Linux devices with custom firmware as even more beginner friendly with the assumption that they can follow a guide for the firmware install because the better firmwares like 351Elec basically take care of all the emulator configurations coded in for you. With android, you have some nice frontend emulators but you're often going to have to configure them yourself. I might be just less aware of what's available for android, but ive been doing some emulation on another android handheld recently and it's definitely some testing on my part to set things up.
@@Pridetoons same on my 351v i get great performance on dreamcast as far as i stick to fighting games, 2d sprites, etc. and some racing games, crazy taxi runs pretty good.
Cloud gaming is getting big and the Retroid 2+, being an Android device, does it well. I was playing Forza Horizon 5 on mine last night. MSFS2020 runs like butter. I'm not sure if those Linux devices are compatible with the apps without having to jump through a whole bunch of hoops, but they are directly supported by Android so it's just download, login, play XBox One games on a handheld.
Was waiting on this one from you 🙂 Amazing job as usual mate
I think I'm digging the black buttons you installed more than the colored ones that came with the device. I get what they were going for, but the black just looks a lot cleaner.
We really do live in fantastic times! ^^
I’m very much looking forward to mine arriving. A bigger screen would mean a bigger device all round. For me the size of the rp2+ is just what I want from a device like this. It is a shame about the slider and lack of L3 and R3 though.
Did yours arrive? If so, how long did it take to get to you?
Good timing, mine arrived today. Great so far. I've got the 16-bit colour scheme with the same colour buttons shown in the video and they don't stick at all. Hopefully that means they've already solved the issue, unless I've just been very lucky.
Good to know, the review worried me as I had ordered a 16-Bit as well and was anxious I'd be getting faulty buttons as a result. When did you order your model?
@@KonaKonaKaabisteru Ordered on October 31st and shipped on December 19th.
Got mine today, 16-bit colour scheme and two of the buttons are badly sticking, also some screen bleeding, I know it's a great value device but disappointing
@@spreaditfreely same.. Mine arrived today and after on an hour of play my buttons are sticking... Did you ever get a work around or fix for yours sticking?
@@MattyK1873 Sorry to hear lad, I messaged the company about it but not much luck at all, just an email back with a video of console teardown. It was unplayable for me to be honest so I bought a phone screwdriver set and mini file set off Amazon, got both delivered for about 12 quid. Then I followed the PCB upgrade video of the Retroid Pocket 2 from Takii 2's channel as it was a great tutorial of opening the device to get at the buttons. I used the file to file not the buttons but the actual holes that the buttons fit into, pretty much the shell of the unit, only a small amount, happy to say it was actually easy to do and is working perfectly now, still a bit peeved I had to do that but don't be afraid to give it go, I've been well chuffed with the device overall and happy I have the coloured buttons.
And with this release, the first of Anbernic's competitors has fired a shot across their bow, Anbernic has sold it's last RG552 at their insane price point. Well, that didn't take long. Different design choices but same case use for both units. That's bad news for Anbernic, at least for the first iteration of the RG552. Fun times in retro world.
Just got mine today and had to check your video - always love your insight and to hear your take on things. As a side note, I've found it easier to get the SD card to eject and put it in by pressing a thumbnail on its spot outside of the little rubber cover. It can still be a pain with big fingers to get the card out, but it can be pressed into place and ejected more easily that way on both the RP2 and the 2+ in my experience. Thanks again for the happy gaming!
Nice tip, thanks!
Finally after almost two months I got a notification today from DHL that they are delivering it today. I'm just searching through youtube looking at how to set it up.
Great video like always, I personally picked the RG552 and love it. I wanted to watch this video though because the quality of your content is enough for me to want to watch all your videos. Retro Game Corps is my number one resource for everything that's retro emulation.
@@Pridetoons gonna be waiting a long time lmao!
I'm a 44 year old guy who has been emulating for decades, but have never had a little handheld like this. RG552 looks real spiffy, but at $250 it's just not something I can justify. This little thing looks like more my speed... I will mostly be playing older emulation systems anyway. For $99 it's hard to beat. Now just to wait months for the shipping... :-)
What a difference a single design decision makes. That right slider changes this from a no brainer purchase to a "will never buy" for me.
i'm in for Saturn, DC, and N64 with a 4:3 screen. Thanks for the review.
Yeah me too, basically just saturn, dc and all of arcade roms
N64 running well at 100 dollar price range, I'm finally gonna bite with one of these retro handheld. Great review as always Russ 👏
140 with shipping for EU. Don't know about import taxes. Not that cheap.
@@Bonkikavo mines was 108$.
Really brilliant stuff and such a comprehensive review! I also really appreciate the thought put into providing the names of the other handhelds and games that you are playing in the clip - not all of us follow the handheld scene 24/7 so it's great that you provide that level of detail. 😄
Love the production value of your videos. 👍 Keep being awesome!
I was waiting for a handheld that can run goldeneye perfectly, so i’ve just pre ordered the rp2+ ! 😊
Goldeneye was definitely a game that caught my eye when watching this too.
really like the new intro. Keep up the good work!
honestly if you want to see it shine the big surprise was how well Saturn Games Play and the improvements to existing systems like dreamcast.
A RP2+ with the form factor of a RGB10 Max or Max 2 would be my ideal handheld.
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Russ, I think it’s time for another “my current favorite handhelds” video. Even though the RP2+ is more powerful, I’d like to know if you reach for it first, or do you prefer a RK3326-based handheld?
I just watched someone else's review on the Retroid Pocket 2+ and yours is much better at getting into the specifics.
I sincerely cannot believe this thing only costs $99 USD, absolutely amazing
Cheers Russ, great review. Very tempting, 30 bucks more with a larger screen and I'm sold. Retroid as a company seem to be doing things (mostly) the right way.
My RP2+ (16-bit style) is probably going to arrive tomorrow, and I was concerned about the painted ABXY button issue you showed, so I contacted Retroid about it. I asked if they were sending regular buttons to people who encounter this issue, or if I should just order some new buttons right now. A day later they responded that they’ve corrected the problem and that my system won’t have any issues. We shall see.
Please update me with how it turns out, thanks!
@@RetroGameCorps 👍
@@MrCumstein me too would like to know about the buttons because i ordered my few days ago, thanks.
@@nzxtsnue1139 I’m happy to report that the buttons on mine feel great, and I’ve had no touch screen irregularities either.
@@MrCumstein oh thats great im happy they didnt went with the 3ds qc approach. thank you.
Just ordered mine two days ago, got the black one. Cant wait to get it, though not sure when lol. In the mean time im updating my rom library. Great video, this little engine that could seems like so much fun.
This is the first time I’ve started to look into non-major market devices and this is the first video that I came across of one that I was looking into actually being reviewed. Excellent job thank you no I made my purchase before I saw your video, but your video definitely helped give me confidence that I wasn’t going to get screwed over! Thank you very much! New subscriber
Great video Russ! Only thing is that I'm only of the people who do prefer the Digital slider. Not only is it going for pushing buttons, but higher sticks makes pushing it to the right is a bit tiring. These handhelds needs some bigger controller real estate to make a full right stick comfortable
Another great review , I only own the retroid pocket 2 since it was originally in my budget and you helped me in making my final decision as as you described had everything I was looking for at the time. That being said I was super excited about this review and again you did not disappoint. I agree with another comment , longer videos with more info with time stamps is great ! I love getting all your opinions as they do matter and are very helpful. Obviously chicken is the star of the show so loved the cat break, more please 😺. Russ great video and good job , love that your switching things up a bit in your video layouts , love that retro feel , keep ‘em coming brother !
Mine is getting delivered today! Great timing!
Really digging the new intro. Great review too.
I definately feel like some of the other videos i had seen of this device led me to belive that it could run all Gamecube perfectly, as well as much better PS2 performance. so, i super appreciate this video. I'm waiting to upgrade from my RG351P for a good, small device that can run some higher end consoles. And this is def not it. Thanks, Keep up the awesome videos my guy!
If you wait another year or two, retroid will most likely release something that can play PS2 and maybe even Xbox. But I’m sure then it can play GameCube games.
Just use a decent android phone and a controller like the gamesir. Much better than these devices performance wise.
@@ChubbyChecker182 nah use a madcatz lmao
@@ChubbyChecker182 what phones do you recommend to at least play gamecube/ps2 games?
@@RicardoHernandez-ii9lx I think you're going to need a full on desktop(not a laptop, or phone, lol), ps2 brings my Ryzen system to it's knees, lol
The screen does only turn off for HDMI OUT if you set it to turn off. If you change that setting its possible to play Nintendo DS with HDMI Out as a second screen.
Great idea!
I watched your video about the RG351MP and was going to buy that device, however the Pocket 2 looked promising. When they announced the Pocket 2+ I immediately changed my mind and ordered one a few days ago, can't wait.
That intro though... Nice work!
Color me impressed, looks like a night and day improvement from the RP2.
I still dislike Android on a dedicated gaming handheld, but for $99 this is hard to beat...
I had a feeling PS2 was too good to be true. I just want to play Godhand anywhere
Also, thank you for your honesty Russ. Love the fact you even mentioned that you are a non-affiliate with the company and your reviews are always fair.
For a smaller device, I think this is top tier. Except for the l3/r3 buttons. All in all, I think I want the MAX2 form factor with the x18s chipset and memory. This device, I would not mind giving out as a gift. Price/performance is very good.
It's always good to see Chicken. She's a very nice cat.
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Gah… this is so tempting! Think I’m still going to save up for a Steamdeck but kudos again to Retroid for making such an awesome price-to-performance ratio on the RP2+ … I hope they sell a ton of ‘em! 💪
Lmfao good luck getting one all next year unless your paying cuck prices
@@TheGamespy100 i think he meant the Steam Deck
@@3STYLER ohhhh than yeah good luck lmao that will be scalped hard
To the people above me, they made reservations a thing for a reason. 😅 Chances are a majority of people who reserved it are people who actually want it, not scalpers, haha. Scalping won't happen until it's available to purchase online on Steam without the need for reservation.
@@3godzilla3 reservations, that's cute for the scalpel bots
Just got my RG351P and maxed its potential, thanks to this channel. 😁🤘
yeah so after some research a ton of people have had an issue with the 8 bit because of the paint so for anyone here wanting one id recommend choosing a different color
I'm super tempted to get this over anything as my first ever retro handheld. I already know how to work android since I emulate on my phone, but finally something not very expensive and powerful enough. 100% would rather take this than the anbernic one
anbernic has size of screen and dual boot going for it? also android... anbernic are also known for quality.... but the price is the killer maybe the 552 is more capable? cant remember i know taki did 2 long vids on 552 one vid for each os? i didnt watch the second vid but he alluded to the android side being really capable and that with dev or community support the other os should be more than capable too in time.... but that issue along with the price and the current shoulder button config seems like a big misstep for anbernic.... if patchy n64 ps2 is what your aiming for..... not sure any handheld bar a super duper phone can do the majority n64 ps2 or psp yet???
i have just got a max 2 personally i think the best ergonomically and aesthetically pleasing of the handhelds that go up to ps1 it does abit of dreamcast etc its also patchy with n64 but im not looking to play or seek out those sort of games.... max 2 is costlier than the pocket 2+ too by about 30 or so more bucks depending on card size... so the pocket does have bang for the buck going for it...
but reason i chose max 2 was large screen size, symmetrical sticks, grips and stacked shoulders.... and i didnt know about pocket 2+ XD but sub 100 sounds awesome which makes the 552 at 200+ seem crazy when the powkiddy x18s also a very capable device at 160+
or you could buy a quallity budget chinese phone at 100 - 150 - 200 and blows all of these devices away on emulation... im thinking realme or poco x3 f3??? or redmi?? phone prices differ depending on the size of storage etc but the chips inside at those sort of prices is also pointing to the future of other retro handhelds coming in the next few months few years
Retroid Pocket Team nailed this time! Offering a hardware upgrade for those who already own a RP2 and a selling a powerful machine for under 100 bucks? No competitor is doing that. This device has the best value for the money you can get
@@Pridetoons Powkiddy X18S is more expensive though, that device costs $179
@@Pridetoons for that build quality and awkward placement of buttons, it not worth to spend that money. For the moment no competitor can beat RP2+ when comes to cost x performance
Just pre-ordered mine today, wish me luck!
Man, I thought, why you posting 10+ minute videos. Then you talked about ergonomics, a topic that's rarely talked about. Thank you the in depth review! Keep it up!
Well I did order my yesterday. After 2 months thinking and fighting with myself 😅 I did decide to buy this one over the others systems for time when I am waiting for stem deck. Other reviews more positive about NGC and Ps2 emulation 🙄 after your video I am a bit disappointed. But maybe community will bring some good patches 👍🤩
i ordered one last week too! Have no idea how long it will take to get to me, but in the meantime i have my PS5 and Switch to keep me busy. Im only interested in emulating up to PS2 era games anyway. I never had a PS2 as a kid or a PS1. I played the crap out of Xbox 360 games and everything after that so im ready to go back in time on an awesome handheld that can play these older games with great performance at the same time.
@@dustygearhead 😎 mate me commodore 64, amiga 500, pc dos, then ps1.. Ps2 no cos I, had xbox and pc. Then ps3 in 2012 again.. And ps4 now. I love emulation 😍 now discovering ps2, wii, wiiu and game cube with my dougter 🤩 and I love it. Well I think up to 2 months since order I know all want it now not just us. Hope I will get it before Deck 😂
As always you did a killer review! Thank you so much.
your video, presentation and commentary is as comprehensive as it is informative.
I very much enjoyed it. thank you
Russ, I am so very thankful for everything you do and provide for the community. May I make a personal suggestion, I love the new opening theme for the channel, however, I also love your old one. Is there anyway you could switch back and forth? Maybe come up with a third or fourth one?
Hi, I am working on a new official intro song. I took the old one down because as my channel grew, I found that the song was being associated with my channel, rather than the excellent work done by the creator. That was never my intention when I started the channel (I didn't think it would get so popular!). So after discussion with the artist I chose to remove it to honor their work. The "final" song won't come until it's ready, but I'm hoping it will be equally as iconic.
@@RetroGameCorps thanks for the explanation and that makes complete sense and is a real class act thing for you to do. Again your pride in what you do and your personal convictions make your channel and your reviews so respected.
If the dpad and analog stick were switched it would be the perfect device for me
if we get one of these things in the future with at least a 1 or 2x Cortex A76 or A77 at around 2GHz and decent GPU I think we can emulate everything up to Dreamcast and PSP flawlessly (and also do a lot of GameCube gams at 1x resolution at least)
The new intro is nice! I don't have to fast forward to not risk my epilepsy anymore XD
I bought one based on this review and I don't regret a thing. It's my second retro handheld (unless you count my OG gameboy pocket and gameboy advance as a kid) and after my ambernic died suddenly, i got this and haven't been able to put it down. 10/10 if you're on the fence of buying this or not, just get it. You won't regret it.
Loved your review. Quick questions, how long did it take you to receive your retroid after you preordered it?
You have to wait at least 35 days after ordering before it even ships
Excellent review, and so glad you clearly stated that this device wasn't designed to play GC or PS2, and that they are probably a generation away.
To think that the performance on this device is this good at launch, just has me salivating at what future emulation development will squeeze from its chipset.
I also hope that Powkiddy and others decide to favour this processor over the RG552's, but think that might be a pipedream.
@@Pridetoons still trying to justify the X18s and 552's shit performance lmao, everyone has all the evidence they need to realize how crappy and overpriced the devices to come before this one have been now thankfully.
@@Flyingboots1 how are you calling the x18s performance crappy? It performs better than this product If you want to say it's overpriced, then fine. But there really isn't any need to justify that product over this. It's already understood that it is a stronger performer.
@@Pridetoons If Powkiddy release a device with the form factor of the RGB10 Max2 but with the T618 processor and more fast RAM then fantastic. Otherwise the X18s is a different class of retro portable handheld. Not everyone wants the clamshell form factor; as some just want a smaller device with the controls built around the screen.
Hey RGC Russ, I've been watching your retro gaming tutorials lately are they are very helpful man. Great honest review on the Retroid Pocket 2+. You got a subscriber and thumbs up. Thanks a ton for the good info.
Thanks for watching!
A video on your top tier games for each retro console would be neat
The right analog being a slide-stick really kills it form me. If it was possible to swap it out with a normal stick I would seriously consider buying this. I'll wait a bit longer as there's still new devices on the horizon :)
Honestly I don't use the right analog stick. Maybe with some PS1 title... But even they were mapped to have the R1 and L1 buttons to turn the visual....so....
@@sharpsteel6272 Yeah, I wouldn't be bothered too much of it just was up to PSX, but as we now have PS2 and GC possibilities, I'm going to need decent sticks. The lack of L3 and R3 I can still work around as not every game used them, but that right analog just needs to be a proper stick.
With the library accessible reconsider if you REALLY need the second stick.
I have a 351M and it has a good right stick but with dreamcast beeing the technical max, I RARELY use it.
I guess what Im saying is really think about what type of games you want to play on a device like this.
Really think about how you would use it.
I end up playing a lot of RPGs for breaks at work and my commute and just play the more demanding systems like PS2 at home on my PC.
@@baccarah7010 Like I said in a different reply, I am considering this because of the platforms which need this. If I didn't need an extra stick, I'd just play on my Anbernic RG351P
@@detheavn Ah, okay.
I dont know the insides exactly but it should be possible to swap in a vita or switch stick, there is probably some hardmodding to the shell that needs to be done but as long as the RP2+ mainboard has got a 4-Pin flat cable connector for the sticks on it it should just work plug/play.
The switch and vita both got 4 pins for x signal, y signal, 5v and a ground.
If I got my hands on one I could measure the pinout and confirm this but its worth looking into.
Another issue could be how the RP2+ board "recognizes" the stick on a hardware level, it may only accept an 8 way digital input to begin with.
This is a step in the right direction. Hopefully for the RP3 they focus on releasing a more powerful system with a 5 inch 4 3 screen and proper dual analog.
The fact that it can play Simpson’s hit and run on the go is all I need to sell me on this. Another great and thorough review, thank you.
Looking forward for your Rg552 full review hopefully it will have a new custom firmware before your final review 👍
Wow that's a shame about the DS touchscreen issues. That's the one system I want to play that I haven't really been able to emulate well on my 351m.
TBH for both DS and PSP you should go with original hardware, they're still relatively easy and cheap to find and both system (and their successor as well) have the ability to run other emulators and ports.
DS in particular no matter how good the emulation will be will have weird issue because you're never going to be able to play it with the screens lined up properly.
@@V3Efreet true. Luckily I still have my psp.
As someone who loves to play games on the go and wants try more retro games that are inaccessible to me supply and price wise, handheld emulation consoles seemed like a great fit. I’ve been patiently waiting to hear about the RP2+ for almost a year now. So glad I waited. This seems like it’s perfect for a newbie. If only it came in pink like the RP2... 😆 Gamecube Indigo will suffice. I just love watching your reviews in general so thank you for all the work you’ve put into this and other videos!
Thanks! I agree that a pink color would have been neat. Hopefully they will offer more options later down the line.
I would have preferred a 6-face button setup.
Between Saturn, N64, Genesis, SNES games that aggressively use Select (Super Metroid for missiles), an outlet to map PS1 and PS2 L3/R3 controller stick click, improving the mapping options for Atari 5200, Intellivision, and Colecovision, and a better setup for running Arcade games and native Android games.
Talk about a premium and well thought design when it comes to the PS Vita! The thing is a decade old, it has a very high res and 16:9 display and it weighs and measures about the same as these pocketable 3.5" chinese handhelds. Impressive! I really wish I could buy an untouched, brand new one one.
Its really interesting to see how far these cheap retro emulators have gotten since they took off. But I don't think they are quite there yet. As capable as they have become, they are still leagues behind in pretty much every way from an android phone with a decent controller attached.
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@@huskyfluffers9017 The SD845 version may end up being pretty decent and the price seems reasonable.
Its actually has the same processor as my ancient LG g7. I would say its not really the best processor in the world but for the price its not a bad deal and I imagine it would be hard for them to make the devices at reasonable cost if they used a more up to date processor.
Haven't used it for emulation so much since getting a tab S7 with the chonkier 865+ and bigger screen but the 845 can still run all the android games and emulation is good up up to PS1.
You can get decent performance from Gamecube, Dreamcast and now even PS2 (with AetherX2) - but it depends on the game. Some run at full speed but others don't run particularly well or even playably.
Still nice to see a brand go qualcomm/adreno graphics rather than with Mediatek and their sub-par GPUs.
@@JimIBobIJones I got a tab s6 for 450 and a s10e to match
From a price/performance point of view, no doubt. As far as ergonomics, UX, portability, etc., go, I found that the Android phone experience was way worse than a dedicated device's, and that the time investment to get a fully functional set-up was much longer. If you're mainly interested in 6th-gen consoles and newer, it really is the only option, though.
@@FranzKafkaRockOpera I would agree on the set-up time, but the "tinkering" element is part of the appeal for me. Even if its just through customising a front-end, having an input makes it feel like your own - a bit like setting up a raspberry pi for emulation.
You are also seeing pretty much all the mainstream dedicated handhelds go down the android route with a custom front-end (with Mediatek processors and their weak GPUs rather than snapdragon/adreno). The experience is quickly becoming a weaker version of what you would get with your phone.
Portability and ergonomics wise, I have found the opposite.
I'm always going to have my phone in my pocket and my tablet in my bag. A handheld is an additional device you wouldn't otherwise lug around.
Granted I have only ever owned one dedicated emulator (the RG350) but the buttons and controls were extremely cramped and the analogue sticks and buttons got in each other's way - rather unpleasant than ergonomic.
Both of my android controllers have been much more comfortable to use - an 8bit do with a phone clip and more recently a ipega 9083b telescoping one for my tablet.
This was FANTASTICALLY done, I've been waiting for another Retroid product with better controls, I have an RG350M which is *almost* the perfect devoce except no bluetooth, the speakers and sound are very weak, and it's just occasionally weirdly glitchy. I'm going to order a R2+ based on your overview.
Did you end up getting a Retroid pocket 2+? If so how long did it take to arrive? I'm considering ordering one but on the fence
@@Lilacs4 I did not, but I *DID* figure out how to change the feedback resistors on my RG350M to make the gain on the left and right speaker amps MUCH louder, which solved my problem. So I'm happy enough with the RG350M until I have a ton of cash and I'll try the RP2+ someday.
Just like to say happy New years to you and all the fans of retro game Corp
What you said about the buttons around 5:00 is interesting. I will try to get the Indigo one.
I really like the case and button layout of this thing. Some of these handhelds annoy me due to the design of some of them.
Interestingly, I've also seen cheap tablets/phones with the T310 appear recently. Like the Alldocube Smile 1 and Philips PH1 / PH2
Unisoc managed to claw 10% market share with their dirt cheap pricing.
THANKS RUSS !!..
I'm at work and now can't wait to get home to watch your review....
The feature at 27:00+ is awesome! Real gamer feedback per game, trading settings, thank you who do what you don’t need to but choose to!
Seems like a good value system.
Only thing I cant stand now are those small screens.
If they had screen size options like say around 5 and 7",then Id be more interested.
As for your PS1 emulation tests, wonder how fpse and epsxe perform. Those have a wealth of tweaking options.
Totally agree, would pay for a slight upgrade on screen size.
I mean, a screen that big would severely compromise portability. Plus, it's still got a screen about equal to the DS in size.
@@scrubscrub4492
Not for me.
Portable doesnt mean it has to be pocketable.
But to each their own.
@@fonzitheman Fair enough, though I should mention I made a minor typo, I meant to say it's nearly the size of a 3DS screen.
Strange,
saw videos of the same GC and PS2 games running at more stable speeds (ex: taki udon).
have you configured the emulators?
Yes, I spent several hours testing and tweaking the emulators, using feedback from the community spreadsheet and others. But at some point I have to pull the trigger and just present the performance like a typical user would find too, so I worked to find a balance in my demonstrations with moderate configurations. Like I mention in the review, for those who want to pour over every single game to find the right settings, there may be some nice gains to be found. But from my perspective, that's not indicative of what an everyday user would experience, so I want to present manageable expectations in my reviews.
@@RetroGameCorps Thank you for addressing this. Hope someone can make a guide at some point. I just want kingdom hearts 1 and ffx to be playable.
Taki was using different settings. I think Russ was going for something closer to being accurate while downgrading things like the resolution and allowing slowdown to occur as needed. Taki was going for maintaining speed with less regard to accuracy. The biggest difference you can tell is watching these two play Final Fantasy X. Russ's slowed down more while Taki was faster, but Taki sped up the game to run faster (i think 140%) which caused sped up audio that would sometimes glitch, and more gameplay stutters.
Taki Udon can play a lot of those games with little to no issue so you may need to revise your settings.
I ordered the 16-Bit model on Christmas. I hope I don't have the same button issues that you had, but I am absolutely psyched to get mine!
I really was excited about the new generation of retro handhelds after owning RG351 (love) and RP2 (hate). So I was about to give a try with RP2+. But after EU got serious about taxes and China, RP2+ in Poland would cost me total 138 USD. So I thought: maybe wait for for Odin but then let’s say 240 USD for BASE, then add 12$ for shipping, 23% tax over that and we arrive at 310 USD for me (there is still possibility of additional import duties). Base steam deck with taxes (and shipping i think) is priced in Poland at 1900PLN = 469$. So lets be frank: I would love new retro gadget but price wise I will wait for reviews of Steam Deck (windows, linux, steam os, batocera, 4k output) and then decide.
might as well wait or stream to the rg351
I think it's definitely worth the price, however for what I have currently in portable emu consoles, this will be a pass. Not to mention, while I definitely have interest in portable emu consoles, I still enjoy emulating on my pc/laptop with a nice controller of my choosing, and can emulate anything available. Until I see major improvements in chipsets, 100% happiness with buttons/controllers, and game emulation, I won't be inking up on any more of these until I feel it's worth spending more. I currently have 2 portable consoles that I'm happy with for the convenience and portability, but I feel like the market is just milking buyers with very minor improvements on each new console...HOWEVER, I love your videos and reviews, you're my go-to for these reviews! AAA+++
yup just got a max2 its perfect..... anybody buying one of these and expecting perfect ps2 n64 etc need to wait 1 - 2 years at least for a perfect performance and price.... its almost here.... with these companies going with new chips... 552 x18s and companies going with mobile phone chips... you got odin you got new aya if powkiddy squeezed the x18s into a max3 that would be perfect... heck if anbernic squeezed the 552 into a max2 form it would be perfect.... sub 200 would be possibly doable.... x18s at 170? anything at 250 and above needs to be super special as your knocking on sony nintendos door.... but these chinese devices are upping the game..... more devices the merrier i say.... more competition more choice..... i get where your coming from too.... im hoping a slightly improved max2+ with stereo speakers doesnt come out to annoy me lol
We can't have nice things :( Sold out everywhere. Great review as always!!
I just order this and hope it will be here soon. I was a little disappointed that there seems to be a 45 day wait for this. Hope it's worth it.