Me too omg, I can still remember that in first and second grade I was taking swimming classes and I had them fridays after school at 6:45. And before that my mom always took me to the mall right next to the arena, where I had my swimming classes. And sometimes stronger would be played on the radio, but I always had it on repeat on my MP3 player and I would always jam it before I had my classes. This song will forever be my childhood anthem❤️🔥
Gascans9736 he will and always has because he is all about the art. That's why during the recording process he surrounds himself with the best of the best
sure kid, some of us are obsessed with creating the best quality music and some of you are satisfied with basic sounds. for some art is about constantly beating on your craft until a crack into advent garde opens. you may not understand this concept because you are certified with being good but not exceeding your own expectations
Like Yellow said, if you don't understand the struggle then you probably haven't reached the point where you want something more out of your music. You finally come to the realization that since you already have the experience at hand, all it takes now is time and effort. Therefore you want perfection since this will forever be your mark. And some even want their own personal watermark by creating genres and that takes time, effort and the eye and ear for perfection.
Drums are the integral part of making any beat. A basic beat is NEVER good enough for me and must be tweaked at constantly for the right punch. I need to feel an OOMPH when I make mine...the thumping has to hit me in my chest.
@@milhouse777 dude what kind of reasoning is that, it's like you came up with something and then some famous guy came out and do the exact thing and people be like yeah he is more famous so he was the guy who did it first it sure is more complicated than this the way they came up with their sound and the way kanye came up with his but your point is exactly like my example
I love the cut to the live performance at the end. That must be so rewarding, especially for someone like Kanye who produces his own tracks. To hear it on the concert size speakers and the crowd lovin it. Gotta be the best feeling in the world
matt wells i don't know where you got that conclusion from. Kanye didn't oppose Tim at all. Kanye didn't like the mix on his drums, that they were thumpy but not punchy, Tim told him he over compressed a kick that had no undertone. Tim gave him a kick with an undertone. Ye used it. Where did you see a difference in opinion?
art offical intellegence did he not keep trying to push what he wanted and show him instead of just saying that’s good enough. I’m not saying they fought but he was pretty adamant about what he wanted.
Uh sir, it wasn’t a right or a wrong that night me and Tim added drums to his beat. That actually me in that orange hat and that my ASR-10 I’m on and they r using
HANNON LANE I didn’t say there was a right or wrong that night , I’m just saying Kanye had a vision, they talked about it, then Tim did what he does. I was just trying to point out this was a young Kanye and he knew what he wanted even tho he was in the presence of a legend.
This is what happened. TIMBALAND was on tour with Justin TIMBERLAKE and we were headed for the Overseas leg of the tour. But first, we had to go to Connecticut. Kanye needed stronger drums to perform at the 2007 VMA’s. So he came to me and Tim to add heavier drums to his original drums. Kanye did not “stand up” to Tim in no kinda way.
See how they all paying attention when tim shows them the impact the 808s on top of the original kick… at the beginning of the video they said they tried to mix the song 10- different mixers Tim said your tryna compress a sound that don’t exist
A few years ago I hooked up an omega zip disk via scsi to my ASR-10 and it fried it. Sent it to the Soniq and he fixed it. Got an SD card drive after that and that works great. I still use the floppy drive occasionally to access old disks. Watching this video seeing the zip drive brought me here.
Everyone always gets mad at this song because Kanye "ripped off" Daft Punk but they took the sample from a 70's song by Edwin Birdsong called Cola Bottle Baby. And timberland didn't do much for this song the main mixing engineer was Manny Marroquin.
its like watching 2 world class chefs tinker with a dish, more this more that, sear or broil, chop or mini cuts, sour, sweet, bitter, savory....... fucking amazing.
I didnt know Tim was part of making this until I saw this video wow. I mean I read credits etc but I thought it was just because he had sampled something from him maybe. I was wrong.
actually, paranoid was sampled..i heard the original to that song like a month ago and was like oh ok thats where he got that from...its not a bad thing tho, people just need to stop hating on Kayne cause they want his spot, thats the only reason people hate
Wow I just witnessed a problem-solving session with Ye and Timb? This made me really emotional and teary. A reminder that I should be off RUclips and writing code. Where is my IDE, where is Python...
i'm gone write an essay like u did, but i said the (80s on) which means even to this day songs that are hits have been sampled, and there is a lot of producers that don't know how to play instruments but have an ear for what they are going for, therefor bringing a person that can make it happen....
@knansd Don't even bother mate, I get sick of ignorant people saying shit because they just found out what sampling is. You are exactly right, to sample like Kanye is hella hard. It's pure art. I love Daft Punk but people need to realise that Kanye just took a vocal sample and the rest was him, unlike Harder,Faster,Better,Stronger which is a borderline copying of Edwin Birdsongs Cola Bottle Baby.
![Kanye West - Stronger/Hey Mama [Grammy 2008]](/img/1.gif)
Timbaland found that kick beautifully, he's got a fantastic ear
@@namiqqafarov1397 extra bass
i miss this era when stronger played all the time on the radio
Heard it on the radio about a month ago on my way to work. A true classic.
I hate stronger
true
Me too omg, I can still remember that in first and second grade I was taking swimming classes and I had them fridays after school at 6:45. And before that my mom always took me to the mall right next to the arena, where I had my swimming classes. And sometimes stronger would be played on the radio, but I always had it on repeat on my MP3 player and I would always jam it before I had my classes. This song will forever be my childhood anthem❤️🔥
Negative. I relish every moment it’s NOT played. Not that great of a song, dude
Some say they're still mixing it today
hahahaha
Cause they are. He said that
douglas fairmeadow lmao
Nah you're thinking of The Life of Pablo
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAH
This shows Ye was humble enough to go to the OG for help. I love it.
Gascans9736 he will and always has because he is all about the art. That's why during the recording process he surrounds himself with the best of the best
Imma sick Fuck
@ I only like Kanye cause he supports trump
Worst Producer wow, you're such an intellectual.
Worst Producer when did he ever say he was an engineer ? Go and find a producer that is as good at engineering and he needs it to be
every producer knows the struggle of getting the perfect drum, that shit is irritating
sure kid, some of us are obsessed with creating the best quality music and some of you are satisfied with basic sounds. for some art is about constantly beating on your craft until a crack into advent garde opens. you may not understand this concept because you are certified with being good but not exceeding your own expectations
Like Yellow said, if you don't understand the struggle then you probably haven't reached the point where you want something more out of your music.
You finally come to the realization that since you already have the experience at hand, all it takes now is time and effort. Therefore you want perfection since this will forever be your mark. And some even want their own personal watermark by creating genres and that takes time, effort and the eye and ear for perfection.
lol yup
Metro just saying this bc he or she feels threatened by other producers. He wants to make others feel like he or she does, which is inadequate.
Drums are the integral part of making any beat. A basic beat is NEVER good enough for me and must be tweaked at constantly for the right punch. I need to feel an OOMPH when I make mine...the thumping has to hit me in my chest.
This is a real piece of modern hip hop history! Don’t forget this video...
love him or hate him, he took 808s to a new level.
💯
don't wanna punch down to anyone but that was three six mafia
@@miladbarikani3591 but they didn't have the popular appeal of Knaye, that's why he's more influent with these sounds.
@@milhouse777 dude what kind of reasoning is that, it's like you came up with something and then some famous guy came out and do the exact thing and people be like yeah he is more famous so he was the guy who did it first
it sure is more complicated than this the way they came up with their sound and the way kanye came up with his but your point is exactly like my example
With his next album too
I love the cut to the live performance at the end. That must be so rewarding, especially for someone like Kanye who produces his own tracks. To hear it on the concert size speakers and the crowd lovin it. Gotta be the best feeling in the world
which pixel is kanye west?
The one with the maga hat
Lol
Worst Producer lol
this made me laugh for 5 solid minutes!
The smaller black one
This is straight inspiration. Put in the work and show the whole world
There is a science to finding the perfect element to a record to make it feel complete.
i was so lost the whole time but so amazed at the same time!
Love him or hate him, the man gets to do what he's passionate about and its beautiful to watch
I could look at this type shit all day...
I love seeing artists in studio, let’s you experience it a lot better
Geniuses in their element
Legend has it that Kanye is still looking for a better kick drum
I like how Young Kanye stood his ground to a big time producer and and fought for his music and was right in the end.
matt wells i don't know where you got that conclusion from. Kanye didn't oppose Tim at all. Kanye didn't like the mix on his drums, that they were thumpy but not punchy, Tim told him he over compressed a kick that had no undertone. Tim gave him a kick with an undertone. Ye used it. Where did you see a difference in opinion?
art offical intellegence did he not keep trying to push what he wanted and show him instead of just saying that’s good enough. I’m not saying they fought but he was pretty adamant about what he wanted.
Uh sir, it wasn’t a right or a wrong that night me and Tim added drums to his beat. That actually me in that orange hat and that my ASR-10 I’m on and they r using
HANNON LANE I didn’t say there was a right or wrong that night , I’m just saying Kanye had a vision, they talked about it, then Tim did what he does. I was just trying to point out this was a young Kanye and he knew what he wanted even tho he was in the presence of a legend.
This is what happened. TIMBALAND was on tour with Justin TIMBERLAKE and we were headed for the Overseas leg of the tour. But first, we had to go to Connecticut. Kanye needed stronger drums to perform at the 2007 VMA’s. So he came to me and Tim to add heavier drums to his original drums. Kanye did not “stand up” to Tim in no kinda way.
I want to hear all the versions of stronger
@Elraton360 And Daft Punk sampled "Cola Bottle Baby" by Edwin Birdsong. It's music, people share from each other....
facts
timbs looking at him raising the bass like "yo, you gotta have the beat breathe so hard it grabs the hair on ya arms"
See how they all paying attention when tim shows them the impact the 808s on top of the original kick… at the beginning of the video they said they tried to mix the song 10- different mixers Tim said your tryna compress a sound that don’t exist
That's best part of production music watching the magic moment happen
2:45 little did he know he was playing the outro to H*A*M
all black guns like im going to war with africa
Holy fuck
whats that
That’s exactly what came to mind when I heard that
Dawg, I’ve been bobbing to this whole video even when they’re simply talking
A few years ago I hooked up an omega zip disk via scsi to my ASR-10 and it fried it. Sent it to the Soniq and he fixed it. Got an SD card drive after that and that works great. I still use the floppy drive occasionally to access old disks. Watching this video seeing the zip drive brought me here.
Such an honor to watch these mans work
History
those orchestra samples were tight as piss!
Lofi Kitty lmao, tight as piss tho? 😂
portcitypro. Lmaooo definition of trying too much lol.
“So you like to drink piss mate?”
I could watch videos like these where we see how the biggest hits ever were made 24/7 and NOT get bored.
Inspiration for any music producer....... 3.20 mins onwards ....... #passion
legends!!!!! they dont make shit like this anymore...
Oh SHUT, UP
bow in the presence of greatness
All the work they did on that kick drum and it still barely shows up on laptop speakers. Lol.
Morgan_Fucking_Freeman thats what makes this so amazing
explain lol
explain lol
@@Dani00075 explain what?
I'm talking to Morgan
Everyone always gets mad at this song because Kanye "ripped off" Daft Punk but they took the sample from a 70's song by Edwin Birdsong called Cola Bottle Baby. And timberland didn't do much for this song the main mixing engineer was Manny Marroquin.
Nobody ever gets mad
Woaahhh remix-ception
Nobody stole anything. It was all properly credited and Daft Punk e en went on to work with Kanye on Yeezus
Goes to show you a simple pattern with the right sounds can have an amazing outcome.
Kanye tryna get just the kick, Timbaland tryna move a beat. this why he be having 10 names on 1 song 🤣
"I can beef it up right now and you're gonna go crazy." Yep, we all did
this id one of the few times ive seen west humble hes like a kid in a candy shop when hes listening to timbo
Thank you kanye, Very cool!
4:13
I love the way he asks
"You wanna put that on sumn?"
Not sure why
Kanye: I want you to mix the drums on Stronger
Timbaland: I have every choir ever made
Kanye: ...
its like watching 2 world class chefs tinker with a dish, more this more that, sear or broil, chop or mini cuts, sour, sweet, bitter, savory.......
fucking amazing.
Legend has it Kanye is on his 1,200th mix
5:43 ”there, fixed it for you”
this history
good transition to the live video
This is awesome
I didnt know Tim was part of making this until I saw this video wow. I mean I read credits etc but I thought it was just because he had sampled something from him maybe. I was wrong.
When two producers reach the same same page! lol. 😆
But does Tim have the Rackkick.01
Farai The Producer aye
Its so corny to me how some of these new producers just want to copy down to the exact kick sample.
He said he got every sound nigga
actually, paranoid was sampled..i heard the original to that song like a month ago and was like oh ok thats where he got that from...its not a bad thing tho, people just need to stop hating on Kayne cause they want his spot, thats the only reason people hate
Goosebumps
Beautiful work & inspiration🙏🏾💪🏾💎.
Inspiring man I hope I can do shit like this one day
3 years later have you achieved your goal?
All those people wanna be there cuz of him. It's love baby.
Legendary.
true
So that’s how he made stronger
GOATS AT WORK, dont disturb
love
I luv how A trak is just chillin' in the back
I'm such a fucking sell out. I went from working in a studio, doing this stuff to studying finance.
"already talking about the 808 at this time ", hes not talking about the album, hes talking aboot the beet, how dumb are sum people.
Jason Thompson beet
Beet
Beet
Beet
Eistein is beat not beet
inspiration
4:57 - Under tone's makes it pop
Wow I just witnessed a problem-solving session with Ye and Timb? This made me really emotional and teary. A reminder that I should be off RUclips and writing code. Where is my IDE, where is Python...
No one cares you write python
Nick Iwoa What do you write? That’s right, nothing.
Get productive
@@isaiahrichards9319 I don't jerk off in others faces that I program, you pretentious loser
He’s just saying that this beautiful work is reminding he should be working
Guy seemed so much happier when he was just focusing on music.
i'm gone write an essay like u did, but i said the (80s on) which means even to this day songs that are hits have been sampled, and there is a lot of producers that don't know how to play instruments but have an ear for what they are going for, therefor bringing a person that can make it happen....
where was this timberland for the rhythm roulette
masterpiece
Timberland : I have every drum machine known to man
Daft Punk :*Cough*
LOL
I ove the synths on tht song so much
Watch the 2008 Grammy performance with daft punk
Holy crap this video is 12yrs old
Last time I made a comment on this video was nine years ago, time flies, huh?
Hit Factory has so much knowledge.. it's on my to do list
I miss this Kanye
6:14
@Proseedz Nobody else made the drums...He was just having some help find the right sonic sound of them...No shame in that
Kayne has good ears to what sounds good.... ejplevin, listen and learn.
PLAIN PAT WHATTUP!
thats fucking beautiful, look at those studiosssss fackkkkk
dude is prodigious
seeeeee! the man is humble,.......... dope
@knansd Don't even bother mate, I get sick of ignorant people saying shit because they just found out what sampling is. You are exactly right, to sample like Kanye is hella hard. It's pure art. I love Daft Punk but people need to realise that Kanye just took a vocal sample and the rest was him, unlike Harder,Faster,Better,Stronger which is a borderline copying of Edwin Birdsongs Cola Bottle Baby.
wait....so stronger got updated versions after it was released on radio? neat
Dem grey pants, somehow a Timbaland signature Outfit 😎
They're still not satisfied over that kick in 2021....
Bono said it first "- I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For-"
@ϟ Still not dead, homie....lol. Check for me in another 10 years, though. I might not answer. RIP to the future me.
ASR-10 is classic
2:38 what VST was Timbo using?
I try to do this but no body really believes in the vision I have in my head. Sometimes some people just won’t let you be great.
Well put.
I'm here to confirm they are still mixing it TODAY! FACT!
I'd love an asr10 I'd run the mpc though it
The OGs
And legend was born
Love to see the Ensoniq ASR-10 in action...
Dude you are trippin'. I luv the ASR, but the MPC is magic too
i don't understand why tim didn't get production credit on this
He did
He got some credit under something like "Additional Drum Programming" as I remember seeing it in the booklet when I bought Graduation years ago
He def got credited for exactly what he did. Ye gives erybody credit for anything.
Vincent Salamatino he didnt credit aphex twin on blame game
Postmodern Musical Sophist He was credited as Richard James
Timb is the king of Bass!
Needed Mike Dean
soo he put timbalan kicks?
They had to call Timbo to make shit bang 😂