In 1968 Bob Gibson had one of the best seasons ever by a pitcher and won both the Cy Young Award and the NL MVP. That year 13 of his wins were shutouts and his ERA was 1.12.
That year is arguably the greatest on record... coincidentally the same year 1968 is Denny McLain's 31 wins ... the last 30+ game wins in the modern era.
REMEMBER THAT THE MOUND HEIGHT WAS CHANGED JUST FOR THAT YEAR. Not taking anything away from Gibson's and McLain's performances, but MLB went back to height we know now. The 1968 mound gave the pitchers too much of an advantage. 1968 was the first year I followed baseball. I remember getting off the school bus and rushing to the tv to watch the WS games. Willie Horton of the Tigers was my favorite player. So glad Curt Flood misjudged that flyball, so the Tigers won the WS. Mickey Lolich won 3 games for the Tigers. If Gibson had been on the Tigers in 1968, he might have been undefeated. Luis Tiant of the Indians had an era of 1.60. He was just 21-9! The Indians had a weak hitting team that year.
Joe Torre had a baseball camp and I caught Bob Gibson when he was older in the bullpen! Lucky me! Bob was a big guy and a friendly person that day. I'll never forget that I played catch with the best pitcher ever!..my name is JP DesEnfants and my Father Frank took care of the baseball fields with love for all the ballplayers there! I'll never forget Joe,,'s camp and will be forever grateful for the experience of meeting a Baseball legend like Bob Gibson!
I am a lifelong St. Louis Cardinals fan. . .I grew up in St. Louis during the 1960's and saw Bob Gibson pitch quite a few times. . .One of Gibson's greatest achievements that NEVER seems to be mentioned by sports analysts and commentators (maybe because they're not as old as I am and aren't really aware of this) is the fact that Bob Gibson won 7 COMPLETE GAME victories in a row in the World Series. . .7 World Series "Complete Game" Victories in a row! I think that's a record that will never be broken, especially in this day of starting pitchers only going around 6 innings per game. In his book 'Sixty Feet, Six Inches' written with Reggie Jackson, Gibson says, "If I was pitching a great game and the manager came up to me going into the 8th inning and said, "Nice job, Bob. We'll let the bullpen take it from here", I would have said "You'll WHAT?" Now THAT'S a Hall of Fame attitude! Think about that record. . .That will be much harder to break than even his 17 K's in a World Series game, but it never seems to be mentioned. Even as a teenager, I knew I was watching an all-time great every time I was lucky enough to be at Busch Stadium when Bob was on the mound!
@@basilmarasco1975 yes, he won complete games his last 2 starts in 64 then all 3 starts in 67 and then 1st 2 starts in 68. He lost his 3rd start in 68, although he again pitched a complete game and was utterly dominant thru 2 men out in the 7th inning.
@@jeromestracks108 Tommy Agee had just come to the Mets, from the White Sox, in the 1968 season. As a joke, someone told him, when he got to the plate to dig in, on Gibson. Agee began digging in. Willie Mays, who had flown in early for the next game against the Giants, saw what was happening, and yelled from the Mets dugout, "Oh no!", as Gibson quickly wound up. He hit Agee, squarely on the wrist, putting him on the disabled list.
During Gibson's second outing, in the 1968 WS, the Tigers were stalling for time. It was raining and not yet an official game. The Tigers were already behind and Gibson was overpowering. The batter called time, slowly went to the dugout, slowly came out, with another bat, and to the plate. During the entire time, Gibson never stepped off the rubber, but stood there, staring at the hitter. He promptly struck him out and went on to a complete game victory.
I was 11 years old in 1964 when the Cardinals beat the Yankees in the World Series. Gibby won 2 games including the clincher. Even though I was a big Yankee fan and a native New Yorker, I idolized Bob Gibson. You could feel his competitiveness through the TV screen. Gibson put his all into every game. I miss watching him pour pitch after pitch at his bat waving opponents. He was a great fielder, 9 Gold Gloves, and a good hitter, 24 career home runs. Hell, I miss listening to games on the radio he pitched against Philadelphia. His career record against the Phillies was 30-12, even better than his 28-14 against the Mets. What a pitcher, what a leader.
My Dad who was a native New Yorker went to one of the 1964 World Series games. He bought my brother and I a Yankee and Cardinal pennant with all of the players names on it. I don't have the Cardinal pennant any longer but I do have the Yankee pennant if you are interested. It's in fair condition.
Gibson hols a record that will likely never be broken unless the game changes drastically -- 7 consecutive complete game victories in the World Series. One hell of a competitor.
Bob Gibson...bar none, #1 Big Game Pitcher EVER !! ..I am now 55 and was kid when he was in his prime and Nick Sr. ( who was like Archie Bunker )..even said, that's the greatest pitcher I ever saw ! ( after Gibson's STILL MLB record 17 K's of my father's friends , the Tigers in 1968 World Series ( he was a bartender in Lakeland, Fla. in the 60's where they have their spring ball, Norm Cash and Al Kaline were good friends of my late father. I met them all in Oakland in May of 68' ( they had a brawl too that night ! I was just 5 and remember it like I was 30 !! ....I also have a baseball in mint shape 28 of them signed for " Nick's son " that classic night....tears in my eyes....they of course won it ALL vs Bob Gibson's Cardinals in October of 68'.....CLASSIC !
@@rdg760jr2 - Any dysfuction on the A's during that era had nothing to do with Jackson. The A's were owned by zany Charlie Finley and had a roster of characters...Jackson was their best player. When Jackson went to the Yankees to make them a winner again, the Yankees were dysfuctional from their nut job owner Steinbrenner, their alcoholic manager Billy Martin, and a NY press that was jealous of outsider Jackson coming to town to lead.
No, it had nothing to do with the era. It was merely the approach to the game, for all of them were fierce competitors. In his autobiography "It's Good to Be Alive," Roy Campanella said he would talk to opposing players while at bat. But he did it to break the concentration of the batter. He said one of his biggest suckers was Willie Mays. And Yogi Berra would do the same thing. In his book "It Ain't Over," he said his hardest target was Ted Williams. The only way he came close to wearing him down was to talk hunting and fishing. I guess that's why Bob Gibson, extremely angry and jerky as he was at times, went with a different approach that worked for him. Gibson could be friendly, and WAS at least on occasion. But when game time came, being friendly seemed out of the question. If being friendly would wreck his opponents, I think he would have used it. Instead, he was straight-up and frightening, on purpose!
Underrated HOF Billy Williams hit Bob Gibson better than anyone. .423, 10 HRS. Single off him first time facing him in 1961, singled last time facing him in 1974.
Really good interview and it sounds so much like the great competitor Bob Gibson. Only the last 6 years of Sandy Koufax pitching may have exceeded the performance of Gibson. In 1969 Joe Torre came to the Cardinals for I believe 6 seasons. He had good years for the Cards and their best season while he was in STL was in 1971 when Torre batted something like .363. I was born in 1953 in STL and have always gone to about 5 games a year and in 1971 for a while Torre was so hot he was batting even closer to .400 for a while (some homers and lots of doubles). The Pirates were a little better winning the pennant but Bob Gison thew his only no-hitter that year versus their great hitting team (Stargell, Clemente, etc.). The Cards were transitioning the catcher position from Tim Mc Carver to Ted Simmons and Torre became their third baseman. I bet Torre and Gibson finally became friends for a while. Torre later managed the Cardinals for a while as well but his big success of course followed with the Yankees.
I remember that year in 1971. Torre had 230 hits and 137 rbi. Gibson threw a no hitter against the world Champs Pittsburgh pirates!! A St.Louis fan for life!
Should have talked to McCarver.?... he use to say to McCarver when he came out you go catch and ill 🤒 pitch ok now get back there.....one of the best pitchers ever
I pitched from when I was 8 thru about 34. Little League thru college and beyond a bit.. Bob was one of my pitching idols. I was a pretty shy person when young. However, once on that pitching mound I became a Bob Gibson. I own this ball and it's going where I throw it. Open that mouth and, well just don't do that. 😉🤣
When Joe Torre was manager of the New York Mets from 1977-1981, Joe had brought in Bob Gibson to be his pitching coach. The Mets fired Torre and his entire coaching staff immediately after the final game of the year ended. How do you tell Bob Gibson he is being let go? It was not Joe or Bob’s fault the Mets were pitiful in those years. The next Manager George Bamberger quit because they were so bad.
@@ron88303 1968: 1.12 ERA, the lowest in the last 80 years; 304 IP. 68 Series: Gibson pitched complete games in Games 1, 4, and 7. He was the winning pitcher in Games 1 and 4. In Game 1, he threw a shutout, striking out a Series record 17 batters, besting Sandy Koufax's 1963 record by two; it still stands as the World Series record today. In Game 4, a solo home run by Jim Northrup was the only offense the Tigers were able to muster, as Gibson struck out ten batters.
@@richstex4736 I'm a lifelong Cardinals fan who grew up in the sixties watching the Birds. In '68 he lost the last game of the Series due primarily to a rare misplay by Gold Glover outfielder Curt Flood.
you misunderstood....he said "I caught Gibson before I caught Gibson"....in other words, he caught him in the '65 All-Star game (as a Brave) before he was traded to StL, where he caught him as catcher for the Cards.
Gibson is generally recognized as the greatest big game pitcher of all time. Koufax is so obvious that he's taken for granted and overlooked. I lost money on Gibson in a game 7, but that's beside the point. Give me Koufax.
Koufax pitched for four NL champions, and was 4-3 with 57 innings pitched in the World Series. Gibson pitched for three NL champions, and was 7-2 with 81 innings pitched. He threw eight consecutive complete games, winning seven, including one 10-inning game. That's an awfully strong body of work.
@@roberthudson1959 Koufax won game 7 in 65 2-0 on 2 days rest with only his fastball. Roseboro went out and asked in the second inning where the curve was and Koufax said he didn't have it. Roseboro said, "What we gonna do?" Koufax said, Fuck 'em, we'll blow 'em away. Gibson won his two game 7's 7-5 and 7-2. Who would you rather have? PS. Just heard of Gibby's passing. RIP Mr. Gibson.
Earning respect through fear..if what you said was true, then all I've got to say is I only wished he were still alive. Then I could tell him to his FACE! at the risk of death, along with Lefty Grove OR ANYONE ELSE! that I can't respect a worthless prick. End of story.
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My son was a pitcher through college, and I taught him coming up to be tough on the mound like Bob Gibson, and he was..Thanks, Bob.
In 1968 Bob Gibson had one of the best seasons ever by a pitcher and won both the Cy Young Award and the NL MVP. That year 13 of his wins were shutouts and his ERA was 1.12.
That year is arguably the greatest on record... coincidentally the same year 1968 is Denny McLain's 31 wins ... the last 30+ game wins in the modern era.
Amazing stats!
REMEMBER THAT THE MOUND HEIGHT WAS CHANGED JUST FOR THAT YEAR. Not taking anything away from Gibson's and McLain's performances, but MLB went back to height we know now. The 1968 mound gave the pitchers too much of an advantage. 1968 was the first year I followed baseball. I remember getting off the school bus and rushing to the tv to watch the WS games. Willie Horton of the Tigers was my favorite player. So glad Curt Flood misjudged that flyball, so the Tigers won the WS. Mickey Lolich won 3 games for the Tigers.
If Gibson had been on the Tigers in 1968, he might have been undefeated. Luis Tiant of the Indians had an era of 1.60. He was just 21-9! The Indians had a weak hitting team that year.
RIP Bob Gibson.
I remember last season a broadcaster gushed about Justin Verlander throwing his 26th career complete game. Gibson had 28 in 1968 alone.
Different game. If Bob Gibson was pitching today, he wouldn't be completing 28 games.
@@michaelwainscott2633 If's don't count. He did complete 28 games in '68. Not just Gibson, but a lot of good pitchers back then.
@@ron88303 Don't forget the 300+ innings he chalked up that season.
@@michaelwainscott2633 Oh? I am pretty sure he would. Who is going to go to the mound and tell him his night is done? You? I don't think so!
Joe Torre had a baseball camp and I caught Bob Gibson when he was older in the bullpen! Lucky me! Bob was a big guy and a friendly person that day. I'll never forget that I played catch with the best pitcher ever!..my name is JP DesEnfants and my Father Frank took care of the baseball fields with love for all the ballplayers there! I'll never forget Joe,,'s camp and will be forever grateful for the experience of meeting a Baseball legend like Bob Gibson!
I am a lifelong St. Louis Cardinals fan. . .I grew up in St. Louis during the 1960's and saw Bob Gibson pitch quite a few times. . .One of Gibson's greatest achievements that NEVER seems to be mentioned by sports analysts and commentators (maybe because they're not as old as I am and aren't really aware of this) is the fact that Bob Gibson won 7 COMPLETE GAME victories in a row in the World Series. . .7 World Series "Complete Game" Victories in a row! I think that's a record that will never be broken, especially in this day of starting pitchers only going around 6 innings per game. In his book 'Sixty Feet, Six Inches' written with Reggie Jackson, Gibson says, "If I was pitching a great game and the manager came up to me going into the 8th inning and said, "Nice job, Bob. We'll let the bullpen take it from here", I would have said "You'll WHAT?" Now THAT'S a Hall of Fame attitude! Think about that record. . .That will be much harder to break than even his 17 K's in a World Series game, but it never seems to be mentioned. Even as a teenager, I knew I was watching an all-time great every time I was lucky enough to be at Busch Stadium when Bob was on the mound!
Those 7 straight Series wins encompassed the '64, '67 and '68 Series, right?
He was a bad man
Wow...did not know that particular stat. Incredible.
@@basilmarasco1975 yes, he won complete games his last 2 starts in 64 then all 3 starts in 67 and then 1st 2 starts in 68. He lost his 3rd start in 68, although he again pitched a complete game and was utterly dominant thru 2 men out in the 7th inning.
@@barryosullivan8697 He also hit a solo HR in the '67 Series, at Fenway. *That* I remember!
Players who showboat after hitting home runs should THANK GOD they never faced Bob Gibson, because their next at bat might be their last
I believe Drysdale was the same.
Drysdale would hit you if you dug in at the plate
never thought of myself as a baseball geek, but I dig listening to these stories. so I guess I am a geek.
@@jeromestracks108 Tommy Agee had just come to the Mets, from the White Sox, in the 1968 season. As a joke, someone told him, when he got to the plate to dig in, on Gibson. Agee began digging in. Willie Mays, who had flown in early for the next game against the Giants, saw what was happening, and yelled from the Mets dugout, "Oh no!", as Gibson quickly wound up. He hit Agee, squarely on the wrist, putting him on the disabled list.
After a showboat move against Gibson, the next FIVE hitters would shake in their shoes.
During Gibson's second outing, in the 1968 WS, the Tigers were stalling for time. It was raining and not yet an official game. The Tigers were already behind and Gibson was overpowering. The batter called time, slowly went to the dugout, slowly came out, with another bat, and to the plate. During the entire time, Gibson never stepped off the rubber, but stood there, staring at the hitter. He promptly struck him out and went on to a complete game victory.
I was 11 years old in 1964 when the Cardinals beat the Yankees in the World Series. Gibby won 2 games including the clincher. Even though I was a big Yankee fan and a native New Yorker, I idolized Bob Gibson. You could feel his competitiveness through the TV screen. Gibson put his all into every game. I miss watching him pour pitch after pitch at his bat waving opponents. He was a great fielder, 9 Gold Gloves, and a good hitter, 24 career home runs. Hell, I miss listening to games on the radio he pitched against Philadelphia. His career record against the Phillies was 30-12, even better than his 28-14 against the Mets. What a pitcher, what a leader.
My Dad who was a native New Yorker went to one of the 1964 World Series games. He bought my brother and I a Yankee and Cardinal pennant with all of the players names on it. I don't have the Cardinal pennant any longer but I do have the Yankee pennant if you are interested. It's in fair condition.
I love the inside guts❤️
Gibson like Most of the great pitchers back 60’s would throw 120-140 pitches complete games.
Gibson hols a record that will likely never be broken unless the game changes drastically -- 7 consecutive complete game victories in the World Series. One hell of a competitor.
He could also hit! Homeruns!
That '68 World Series game 7 was one for the ages. Can't believe Gibson didn't win that game.
Asked a guy what happened? "Mickey Lolich," he replied.
Johnny Van Demeer, 2 consecutive no hitters. First against the Braves, second against the Dodgers.
Bob Gibson...bar none, #1 Big Game Pitcher EVER !! ..I am now 55 and was kid when he was in his prime and Nick Sr. ( who was like Archie Bunker )..even said, that's the greatest pitcher I ever saw ! ( after Gibson's STILL MLB record 17 K's of my father's friends , the Tigers in 1968 World Series ( he was a bartender in Lakeland, Fla. in the 60's where they have their spring ball, Norm Cash and Al Kaline were good friends of my late father. I met them all in Oakland in May of 68' ( they had a brawl too that night ! I was just 5 and remember it like I was 30 !! ....I also have a baseball in mint shape 28 of them signed for " Nick's son " that classic night....tears in my eyes....they of course won it ALL vs Bob Gibson's Cardinals in October of 68'.....CLASSIC !
Nicky Depaola Yeah he is the best ever!!
akvalues I disagree, he’s a very good picture but I think that Jack McDowell is the best pitcher ever.
@@blacjackdaniels200 - lol
Everyone needs to read Bob’s books. From Ghetto to Glory. Pitch by Pitch.
Thank You!
No MLB pitcher will ever even come close to Mr Gibson season in 1968
…but Gibson and the mighty Cards couldn’t match Mickey Lolich and the Tigers in Game 7 of the ‘68 Series.
I love torre
Players were just mean back then. No fraterzation. No friends for the most part. Unless you were teamates. Just a differnt era.
We're the power house Oakland A's dysfunctional when Reggie Jackson was on the team? Dysfunctional but they knew how to win
You rarely saw opposing players talk to each other on base. In fact, on some teams, you'd get fined for that.
@@rdg760jr2 - Any dysfuction on the A's during that era had nothing to do with Jackson. The A's were owned by zany Charlie Finley and had a roster of characters...Jackson was their best player. When Jackson went to the Yankees to make them a winner again, the Yankees were dysfuctional from their nut job owner Steinbrenner, their alcoholic manager Billy Martin, and a NY press that was jealous of outsider Jackson coming to town to lead.
No, it had nothing to do with the era. It was merely the approach to the game, for all of them were fierce competitors.
In his autobiography "It's Good to Be Alive," Roy Campanella said he would talk to opposing players while at bat. But he did it to break the concentration of the batter. He said one of his biggest suckers was Willie Mays.
And Yogi Berra would do the same thing. In his book "It Ain't Over," he said his hardest target was Ted Williams. The only way he came close to wearing him down was to talk hunting and fishing.
I guess that's why Bob Gibson, extremely angry and jerky as he was at times, went with a different approach that worked for him. Gibson could be friendly, and WAS at least on occasion. But when game time came, being friendly seemed out of the question. If being friendly would wreck his opponents, I think he would have used it. Instead, he was straight-up and frightening, on purpose!
Underrated HOF Billy Williams hit Bob Gibson better than anyone. .423, 10 HRS. Single off him first time facing him in 1961, singled last time facing him in 1974.
Banks would homer, down goes Santo- numerous times
Really good interview and it sounds so much like the great competitor Bob Gibson. Only the last 6 years of Sandy Koufax pitching may have exceeded the performance of Gibson. In 1969 Joe Torre came to the Cardinals for I believe 6 seasons. He had good years for the Cards and their best season while he was in STL was in 1971 when Torre batted something like .363. I was born in 1953 in STL and have always gone to about 5 games a year and in 1971 for a while Torre was so hot he was batting even closer to .400 for a while (some homers and lots of doubles). The Pirates were a little better winning the pennant but Bob Gison thew his only no-hitter that year versus their great hitting team (Stargell, Clemente, etc.). The Cards were transitioning the catcher position from Tim Mc Carver to Ted Simmons and Torre became their third baseman. I bet Torre and Gibson finally became friends for a while. Torre later managed the Cardinals for a while as well but his big success of course followed with the Yankees.
I remember that year in 1971. Torre had 230 hits and 137 rbi. Gibson threw a no hitter against the world Champs Pittsburgh pirates!! A St.Louis fan for life!
Should have talked to McCarver.?... he use to say to McCarver when he came out you go catch and ill 🤒 pitch ok now get back there.....one of the best pitchers ever
I thought that he told McCarver when he came out "What are you doing out here? All you know about pitching is that you can't hit it."
I pitched from when I was 8 thru about 34. Little League thru college and beyond a bit.. Bob was one of my pitching idols.
I was a pretty shy person when young.
However, once on that pitching mound I became a Bob Gibson. I own this ball and it's going where I throw it. Open that mouth and, well just don't do that. 😉🤣
The Cy Young should be renamed the Gibson Award. Even if only for the NL.
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Gibson pitched the 8th & 9th in ‘65 ASG. Ninth inning Max Alvis popped out to Gibson, Harmon Killebree & Joe Pepitone struck out.⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
Tony Oliva did double to lead off the 9th.⚾️
Tony Oliva did double to lead off the 9th.⚾️
Tony Oliva did double to lead off the 9th.⚾️
Tony Oliva did double to lead off the 9th.⚾️
Tony Oliva did double to lead off the 9th.⚾️
I"ve never heard of Bob Gibson's fastball being clocked. Has anyone ever heard how fast he was in mph?
I don’t think they clocked them back then!
Mid 90's: Just a hair slower than Koufax. I read that, somewhere. They were clocked but not using the electronics of today, of course.
When Joe Torre was manager of the New York Mets from 1977-1981, Joe had brought in Bob Gibson to be his pitching coach. The Mets fired Torre and his entire coaching staff immediately after the final game of the year ended. How do you tell Bob Gibson he is being let go? It was not Joe or Bob’s fault the Mets were pitiful in those years. The next Manager George Bamberger quit because they were so bad.
Bob Gibson or Pedro Martinez. Which one?
Gibson.
@@richstex4736
ERA: Gibson 2.91, Martinez 2.93
W/L %: Gibson 59.1%, Martinez 68.7%
Innings pitched: Gibson 3,884, Martinez 2,827
Complete games: Gibson 255, Martinez 46
Other: Gibson: Batting avg .206/24 hrs, 9 Gold Gloves
Martinez: Batting avg .099/0 hrs, 0 Gold Gloves
Both all-time greats; I'd take Gibby but I'm biased, having grown up watching him as a kid.
@@ron88303 1968: 1.12 ERA, the lowest in the last 80 years; 304 IP. 68 Series: Gibson pitched complete games in Games 1, 4, and 7. He was the winning pitcher in Games 1 and 4. In Game 1, he threw a shutout, striking out a Series record 17 batters, besting Sandy Koufax's 1963 record by two; it still stands as the World Series record today. In Game 4, a solo home run by Jim Northrup was the only offense the Tigers were able to muster, as Gibson struck out ten batters.
@@richstex4736 I'm a lifelong Cardinals fan who grew up in the sixties watching the Birds. In '68 he lost the last game of the Series due primarily to a rare misplay by Gold Glover outfielder Curt Flood.
WHY DID HE SAY i CAUGHT BOB GIBSON BEFORE HE WAS BOB GIBSON?
Gibson had not yet won twenty games, which he would do five times.
you misunderstood....he said "I caught Gibson before I caught Gibson"....in other words, he caught him in the '65 All-Star game (as a Brave) before he was traded to StL, where he caught him as catcher for the Cards.
Gibson is generally recognized as the greatest big game pitcher of all time. Koufax is so obvious that he's taken for granted and overlooked. I lost money on Gibson in a game 7, but that's beside the point. Give me Koufax.
Koufax pitched for four NL champions, and was 4-3 with 57 innings pitched in the World Series. Gibson pitched for three NL champions, and was 7-2 with 81 innings pitched. He threw eight consecutive complete games, winning seven, including one 10-inning game. That's an awfully strong body of work.
@@roberthudson1959 Koufax won game 7 in 65 2-0 on 2 days rest with only his fastball. Roseboro went out and asked in the second inning where the curve was and Koufax said he didn't have it. Roseboro said, "What we gonna do?" Koufax said, Fuck 'em, we'll blow 'em away. Gibson won his two game 7's 7-5 and 7-2. Who would you rather have? PS. Just heard of Gibby's passing. RIP Mr. Gibson.
@@bigcolt5256 Gibson....hus body of work was longer
@@fredwright5954 Koufax vs Gibson, who you betting on? PS. Whitey Ford had an even longer body of work.
@@bigcolt5256 I think W.Ford lost his last 3 World series game & even 1 game to B. Gibson , correct ?
Great Pitcher but a LOUSY human being... My brother asked for Gibson's autograph. Bod singed for Black kids, but not the white kids...
@richstex4736 yes he has his reasons.. HE'S A RACIST..!
Earning respect through fear..if what you said was true, then all I've got to say is I only wished he were still alive. Then I could tell him to his FACE! at the risk of death, along with Lefty Grove OR ANYONE ELSE! that I can't respect a worthless prick. End of story.
Steiner is greasing him because all he's thinking about is $$$$. Oy vey!