How To REALLY Learn Songs
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2024
- Today we're looking at some ways to really get inside of and master a song that you've already learned. Using these techniques when learning a song can really help unlock your creativity and will help you to play that song more musically in all situations.
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A fantastic tip I had from a college tutor, is try to play the chords of a song within a 4 fret range. You can play most pop songs within 4 frets, it teaches you triads really well, and is definitely a good way to 'unlock' the fretboard.
As a sideman musician, I play lots of one-off gigs and have to learn entire setlists of original songs (often only in a few days). The thing that helps most is just listening to the song over and over - memorizing the melody, the structure, taking note of what the instruments are doing and when they come in/out, etc. Familiarity with the song is crucial to playing it well and learning it deeply.
It also pays off to learn what the drums, bass, singer, etc are all doing and be able to hang because when you go to play with other people, you won't have the guitar on the record to cue you. Playing along to something is quite different than literally carrying the part yourself, even in the context of a band. I've also had lots of times where I've been asked to play what the synth/strings/sax/etc was doing instead of the actual guitar part, and either already knowing it or being able to quickly figure it out has helped immensely.
For years I used to play guitar by myself. A while ago, I picked up the bass to play with friends as a band. I realized that I was trying (poorly) to duplicate too many instruments on my guitar - even the drum on some songs! Now, I will tell the rhythm guitar to focus on his strumming, using different chord voicing, etc., and I will focus on transitioning between chords on bass - and keeping time with the drummer, of course. It's one thing to play a song by yourself, and it's another to play as a band.
@@malepartd 100%, it's an entirely different skill! Playing with a band requires you to listen to not just yourself, but what everyone else is in the group is doing. Locking in with the drums, hearing if you're playing too busy and overcrowding the mix, reacting to the other instruments, and sometimes even just noticing that the singer came in early and you need to follow along. That's one thing that you really only learn by playing with other musicians. In a jam or on a gig, I can 100% feel if a player is used to playing live with other musicians or not - it immediately comes across.
@@MrChopsticktech Certainly, one develops those skills of time feel and listening much faster if they're playing with really great, experienced musicians. But I still developed a lot of those skills even when I was less experienced and playing with other musicians that were less experienced just because we focused on improving a lot. We practiced a ton and actively worked on our ability to jam, lock into a groove, play dynamically as a unit, and listen to eachother. We even developed gestures to communicate on stage. I think the key is working with players who take improvement seriously. That being said, I have worked with players that I could tell played live a lot, but didn't take improvement seriously and it showed. Those folks don't tend to get as much work or stick around in the scene long IME, so if you're working your way up in your scene you'll probably play with people like that less and less unless the talent pool is very small.
@@MrChopsticktech Yeah man, it can be tough to start an original project. That's where my heart is, too - these days I only play with artists that do originals. If you don't have singer/songwriters or original artists in your town, I'd say to write your own stuff and see if you can find people who either want to join your band, collaborate, or be your sidemen if you're willing to hire people out and pay them for their time. Best of luck!
Rhett is a boss, no doubt, these are all great tips. I would add - listen to the song (you want to learn) once through without even holding your guitar... just take notes on when guitars come in and out, and what sounds are most important. If you try and learn while you listen the first time, you will often miss guitar parts that are critical to the song.
This is so true. What I found out is that if you get the structure down and memorised to the point when you're super comfortable and can also sing the guitar part (and the other instruments too for that matter), then learning the song is miles easier and can make a seemingly difficult song way less overwhelming.
Oh great someone stole my line
@@mouthfulacoque3580 😂😂
@@joegriffithsmusic That’s a good word.
Matt - EXCELLENT point. Especially the licks that back the main rhythm part - they often come in and out at places that aren't how you think they are!
I like to put Spotify on random and trying to figure out the song within its time.
No stopping, no going back, if I don’t get it on the first pass, there’s always next time… This is how I have fun fine tuning my ear. I’m not quite Rick Beato quick, but I’d give him a run for his money (if he were wearing earplugs).
But for learning a song like I’m getting ready for a tribute show. that starts with the rhythm and getting it to where I think it’s 100%, then i try and find a video of the band playing it live. And check my work. If no luck, try snd find a couple other RUclips guitarists. Also ways to check what I got compared with how they’re playing and adjust accordingly. Then I move to figuring it out on the piano ( or sometimes I figure it out on piano first) …then drums.. then lead guitar…
Let it Be is deceptively tricky. Nice one. Keep on rocking in the free world y’all.
POV: I'm watching this video instead of actually learning the songs for the 3 gigs I have this weekend😂
Tell your band mates to play Let It Be. 😄
LUCKY
This is the way…..
This is one of the best videos you have done. I have been playing covers and originals in bands for 40 years, and one of the things I stress to band mates when learning a new cover, is that no matter how apparently simple a song seems to be, when you break it down, you always find unexpected techniques or "hidden" parts that surprise you and show you why that particular song had that "special something" that made it great. Keep up the great work!!!
I have learned a lot of this and applied it with out knowing I was using theory. Like the circle of fifths and just learning the notes of each chord and rearranging them to do different voicing and inversions. Most of it comes from learning songs and adapting it to how would have written the songs.
Funny. The “Let it Be” / “No Woman, No Cry” progression was the song that I spent so much time messing around with voicing and inversions.
Loved that 6th voicing, filled out the sound beautifully.
Whenever you say "cowboy chords" it gives me the will to learn what's next and step up my game. I am a long time musician but very short time guitar player. Thank you for being there. You sound like a fantastic human being through what you achieve 🎸
Sic lesson Rhett! Fabulous idea and your playing was phenomenal!!
I used to play "cowboy chords" on an acoustic guitar and loved it. Couldn't play barre chords to save my life. Now I play "cowboy chords" on a MIDI keyboard but not as much as I'd like. Still great fun. Working my way through the Beato Book v4.0. I'm on page 9 LOLs 😆🎵
Thanks so much for all you do, Rhett! I'm a two-year subbie and watch everything you put out. Always great advice, and I really appreciate your candor. You're not afraid to express your personal opinions, which, coming from a experienced, working & gigging player has been invaluable to me. Thanks to you and others, I have grown as a player almost exponentially over the last 2 years. This brief overview is just another example of why I listen and trust what you have to say.
This was very insightful Rhett! It’s so tempting to just learn the basic chord progressions of a song and move on to the next song you are interested in. But going down the path that you laid out makes the song much more interesting and musical without making it difficult. It just requires a bit more thought and creativity. And that’s what make music magical!
Thanks!
I like numbers with lyrics. Learning to sing and play a song simultaneously has helped me learn songs much faster than I could before. It helps my right hand find some order and helps me find spaces to add fills. It also keeps me from over-playing. Rhett, you were actually the source of knowledge about the number system, so, thank you for putting it out there.
Really great video. This is EXACTLY the kind of stuff that I've been trying to explore for a little while now in my guitar journey, and it was really helpful to hear you break it down, step by step, in such a clear way. You've helped me uncover some understanding that's been eluding me for a while, so thanks!
Exceptional ,spot on content , sharing these gold nuggets is truley a sign of your gracious generosity. Kudos...we are being elevated in ways that is beyond the music itself.
Great video. Thanks Rhett!
This is soooo great! Such a great lesson not only about a brilliant tune but love how you blend in the theory. Thank you!
Love this. Thanks, Rhett. I need to be reminded to look at different voicing for chords more often. The right voicings are often what make the difference between sort of playing a song, and really having it sound right.
The point on attack on the dude playing floyd is one of the most important things ever! You can replace some bends with slides and vice versa but the attack is soooooooo important.
I've been playing guitar since around 13 years of age, and I turned 50 this year. I've dabbled here and there in basic music theory, mainly for the purpose of teaching young guitarists and understanding myself what I was teaching them. Over the years, I have continued to attempt learning at least enough to communicate with other musicians in a band setting, etc. I am finally releasing original material on my on, playing most of the instruments, and I really want to take it further, much like what you've talked about here. Many times, however, when watching videos on theory, I get frustrated and confused, I'm guessing because they are over my head. I love Rick Beato, but I don't always know enough to grasp everything he is saying, though I still manage to learn from it. This was great! If your course is anything like this, then it might be the thing I've been waiting for! Thanks, Rhett! Thanks for keeping it musical and simple!
Congrats on 400k! Great lesson also :)
As always, very inspiring! Thank you Rhett
Great tips Rhett!! That 2 guitar version of let it be was beautiful!
Great advice at the end regarding creativity!
Great video Rhett. One step further I always incorporate to truly learn a song is to learn the melody. It helps me make informed decisions on chord voicing, changes, and improvisation.
One of your best video yet! Awesome work, thanks!!
Excellent stuff bro. As a singer songwriter I would also add that being able to sing the song, all the lyrics, from start to finish, will definitely help you pull the song deeper inside of you. Even if you're not a singer, you'll own the song thoroughly. Also, after I learn a song in open chords, I like to use a capo and learn the song with a different set of open chords. I like to know a song in the original open position and two other capo'd positions. I find it helps with understanding the relations between different chord shapes. I'll also change the key of the song to suit my voice. There is no reason you have to stay in the original key.
This might be your best video. Well done.
assistant coming in clutch! Nice work! Cheers from 🇨🇦
So true! I'd also add the harmonic analysis. Try to learn functions and describe any song with just roman . It's something that will help a lot to songwriters/ composers. And you'll be able to modulate the whole thing up and down to different keys easily!
Rhett
As always, both in-depth and immensely practical. Thank you.
I could listen to a loop of those two guitars playing forever.Well done !
Thanks Rhett for unlocking and connecting a lot of things with this video. I am big Beatles fan so using this song really helped.
Great video- truly a mind opener
Well done Rhett - a great example to use for the illustration. Most people have - and can hear - that song "in their heads" .
Yup - clearly this vid hit a home run for many. Gotta concur here, some excellent insight. 😎
Great topic Rhett. This whole concept of learning a song inside and out was really driven home when I wanted to sneak in Goodbye Porkpie Hat into my then slightly progressive blues band's setlist. I knew it would never fly if I asked all the members to take it home and learn it individually (and we would likely end up with several different chordal interpretations) so I tasked myself to learn all the player's parts myself. This internalized the song for me in a way I had rarely known before and as you say, proved invaluable as a player in terms of expression and interpretation.
Super useful ideas when you are in a two guitar band
This also gives me new material to have my students work on- if they can do this with a song it would be an eye opener for them
Thanks for the video
Absolutely killer. My mind is blown!
Amazing. Thank you for this. Truly informative and demonstrated in simple terms.
Being a music teacher, I love what you said at the end about learning theory. You nailed it.
Dude your cool been playing guitar since the 80s like your approach especially for new players.
Solid teaching Rhett! Thanks.
Regarding music theory, I'll repeat a fantastic piece of advice I once got from a high school music teacher: "You have to know the rules before you can break them."
This is really great advice!
Great episode Rhett
Man I love what you did with this this is really really cool to hear those versions of that song that I’ve heard all my life thanks for this gives me some ideas of what I can do to make things sound a little different I play in church a lot and sometimes there’s at least one other or maybe two guitar players so this will make it where I don’t blend in with just a mix thanks man appreciate you keep up the good work
Great ideas !!
Loved it Man!! I am trying it on some old X-mas songs I know. Thanks for the info!!
This was nice to watch. I'm a beginner, and I tried to learn this song by strumming but yes, you loose many things from the song and when you don't have many tools available because well, you are a beginner, is difficult to add more to the songs, but videos like this one are really helpful to gain more experience and gain more skill and resources to your playing.
This is how I get through learning 3-4 gospel songs each week. Good video!!
Beautiful duo segment, thank you.
This is a fantastic vid, Rhett! More like this, please. :D
good info...i don't know how well i could apply these techniques, but a really great concept...
To me, "really learning" a song is less about fully understanding the music and being able to play it in different keys or contexts, but seeing what is going on under that, which I think is best attained by listening to live versions to hear how it changes, and what its range of variations is. Getting the right chord inversions can be a major part of the character of a song. I also try to find video to see exactly how it's being played to get into the logic of how it works better. Then, you can understand what matters to the song and what can be changed to maintain the spirit of the song. (of course, if you completely change how the song sounds, then the original spirit is no longer as important)
Excellent video !
Being a keyboard player as well as guitar helps you visualize the different position available for any chord combination.👨🏻🦳
Totally agree. I play mainly guitar and bass, but started on piano. In fact, this is one of the first songs I picked out by ear on piano. Anyway, just as you say, playing keys makes you think of the song and voicings in a completely different way, which is then translated into how I play guitar.
Top video! Really wanna try this song now, and bust out my Boss Rt-20. Thanks Rhett
Great video as always Rhett, when I read the title at first I was confused what "tips" Would you be giving . Thank god I clicked on this video.
Thanks for this. I need to study my chord voicings!
This is totally amazing, you are officially my new guitar teacher 😊
Great video Rhett, there is so much to be learnt that it is never ending..thanks for sharing your ideas...BTW were you were using your FX3 ?
Great tips Rhett! I find simplicity in creating parts tends to serve the song best. I used to just not understand inversions but now that’s mostly what I play haha
Thank you. I really like the way you presented the lesson.
Another great lesson! Thanks
Rhett, I had a lot of fun and learned a great deal taking rock songs and turning them into gypsy jazz songs, using the gypsy jazz chord voices and rhythm.
Wise words and great advice!
I’ve been watching your channel for some time now and I learn something with every viewing, when you played with your sidekick (sorry, I forgot his name, btw, he’s an awesome player too) I was bowled over. The Leslie/Chorus effect was so beautiful 🥲 on this great melody, thank you for your insight and experience on this and all topics related to guitar and music.
Most people know theory and don't even know it..
Like me. Never had a day of schooling but learned the neck an a I think alot like Rhett when it comes to breaking down cbords.. good stuff.
Fantastic Video, truly informative content.
I don't leave many comments, Rhett, but gotta say this was an excellent video, thanks so much for the perspective.
I need more of you and Chris in step two
Great content. Thank you!
I really thought you were going to talk about analizing the chord progression with the function of every chord and then apply it to originals or use that information to be able to play a lot of songs just by knowing the basic progression...
But that analysis was good to. It was more about arranging. But it's a very relevant topic as well
Thanks Rhett
great lesson more like this please.
Very very good video! Thank you. From Brazil.
Then there is me, never finished learning anything I just hop between the 100s of songs I want to learn but only focus on one until I think it sounds good, then comes the never ending quest for perfection whilst still hopping between songs.
Brother is that you?😢
Excellent!
wonderful video rhett! Greetings from italy
Your teaching techniques are very informative Rhett
What a great way to express the need to be able to translate!
Really liked that rotary effect on this song👌
Very nice. I wasn't sure which way you were going to head by the title, but this is one that doesn't pop up too often...at least with the channels I watch.
Also have to say your not one of those cocky players. You can never stop learning. No matter how so called good musicians think they know it all, especially on you tube.
As a bassist, guitar players sometimes need to know how to play the in the lower registers using different inversions, because bass players are somewhat rare, and you need low end in your music. But if there’s a bassist, let him do his job. Lol Great video Rhett.
Love your content bro
Thank you for this vid!
Very interesting. Never thought of the song this way....
Great topic! I was just thinking about this after listening to Josh Smith interview JD Simo.
Love your guitar Rhett, nice.
A very cool version of an Esquire.
This insight helps me tremendously.
Bravo!
Thanks to you open chords are now Cowboy chords in my head.
you are great at explaining guitar !
Rhett. Love that Leslie/Uni-Vibe effect you're using. It makes your guitar sound something like the B3 Billy Preston is playing on the song. And I totally second your take on learning theory. I was exactly one of the types of players you mention. I actually studied music for a while, in high school and college. I did ok, but really just memorized everything, without really understanding how it all worked; I really still played by ear and instinct. Over time, it must have sunk in, though. And it made my playing and writing exponentially better! Hey kids, put the time in to learn theory, scales, chord voicings, etc. It is time and effort well spent!
Wow great video!
Let it be is the first song I learned chord completely by ear on the piano!